One thing that people seem to be getting wrong about the IL76 crash shootdown whatever:
People and media are saying that it was rff8319 (reg # RA-78830)
If the plane was last spotted off the east of Cyprus at 7:10UTC and was then shot down at around 11AM moscow time (8:00UTC) then it would have had to travel ~1700km in 50 minutes. Greater than mach 1.This isn't possible for that plane, it couldn't have been that plane, so which one was it?
RT India told me the same
Guys its on TASS so it must be true....
>any russian "media" source in 2022
>"Russia is not invading Ukraine you dumb westerners are just crazy"
>*Russia invades Ukraine and fails miserably
if russia says the plane was full of POWs then that means the plane was full of generals and Iranian weapons
Lel
the fact that these subhumans ziggers have to resort to levels of this cope and seethe means something big was in that plane
I mean it could have been worse, the other plane had 80 POWs on it, if that one got shot down then it would have been even bigger still.
They're saying Iranian commanders were on it to train Russians how to use the new hardware.
>they expect seventy of us in the wreckage, blyader
>it was full of PO-ACKKKK!!!!
these people will believe anything lmfao
Where are the bodies then? tbh I don't buy that story either, with like 70 people on the plane they should be everywhere
please be patient
FSB needs time to buy "70 nazi uniforms" in ebay
>Ukraine shot down a bulk shipment of old copies of The Sims 3
>70 nazi uniforms
I look forward to pictures of a burned corpse wearing a pristine disco suit with a swastika on it.
The POWs returned 3 weeks ago you mean?
No I mean the POWs that were supposed to be returned today, I mean those POWs may already be dead in a trench by now, but not dead from an AA missile.
Why must ziggers always lie
ancient soviet tradition
>Why must ziggers always lie
trvst thv plvn
this is fake and the person who posted it deleted their twitter
the frick are you talking about. The source for that image is a UKR telegram. And it is still very much around
The IL76 that got shot down was full of the entire wagner command and two prigozhins, the POWs had already been executed on the ground months ago and the missile was from a strigoi strela
Who was REALLY on board the plane? This 'it was full of POWs/civilians' kind of cope usually only comes after the UAF successfully headhunts some homosexual Russian commander.
>Who was REALLY on board the plane?
FSB, doctor pavel, ex-wagnerites and a big guy
>a big guy
Gedomon Board?
No way, did the ukrops get him? Fuuuuck
I don't know who was onboard, but they had a lot of explosives on board and it looks like it was shot down.
Here is list of POWs on board. Comrades on Telegram also have reason to suspect several Boris Johnson clones may have also been on plane. See Boku No Pico for more info decadent troony nazi israelite w*ct is of trying to bury.
>no boris johnson
fake as af
Boris Johnsons is the f-16 pilot that shot it down
what about the mosquito man?
>no Boris Johnson's
practically a failed mission.
This guy gets it. Guys... Russia would never, EVER care this much about HUMAN LIVES. You shouldn't ask WHO but WHAT was on board.
Taking into account it took flight from Egypt before refueling on Belgorod to take off towards moscow, and judging by the explosion, this was smuggled artillery shells and/or explosives and parts for drones/missiles. Now THAT hurts way more than another shipment of VDV walking corpses. No wonder they seethe. Reminder what happens every time shoigu's shells get lost. That's what Russians actually care about.
>Reminder what happens every time shoigu's shells get lost
The eggs get counted?
OSINT is literally just moronic people on twitter. Don't believe anything they say.
Better track record than Russian MoD
So far all evidence points that russians are desperately trying to frame this as a plane full of PoWs. Looking at how poor their "evidence" is, it seems more and more plausible this isn't the case. They probably will just cancel the planned exchange and either, execute the POWs with thermobarics or exchange them silently later.
So was it one guy, like a general, or was it a bunch of lower rank but higher value targets, like pilots?
>lose an A-50 (irreplaceable) and a IL-22 Last week.
>now lose an IL-76
now tell me again how is russia winning
>russia fricks up in the most moronic possible way
>russian propagandist make up the most moronic brain dead distraction methodicka narrative or try to spin the story to make it seem like a win
>ukrops and westoids spend weeks trying to disprove absolutely made up bullshit russia said
A tale as old as anal rape.
>Verification not required.
>magarusshits do their best to spread the deluge of bullshit
>morons lap it up, spam their reps in DC
>Monke is joyful and gives magarusshits a banan peel as a reward
>Monke also has them put on a kill list
>three patriots
>WOW IT ONLY TOOK THREE OF YOUR GUYS TO KILL ME!
lol
Forgot the funny part
>Zigoid western vatniks will still believe it after a year
Its like the Palestine shills still pretending the 500 death hospital courtyard bombing was real.
Actually it's on a Russian imageboard, you know the people who are genetic liars except for when they corroborate Ukrainian narratives. And of course, the board is geometrically locked to only allow Russians to post and as we know, Ukrainians are genetically different and don't speak Russian.
thats a ukranian imageboard
Oh well that's just doubled it's trustworthiness.
>geometrically locked
bait?
otherwise: you had one job to do
Genetically locked, it's autocorrect, I complain to my military manager but he just points his gun at me and tells me to get back to tricking /k/, please help me!
Remember Anon, they can only afford to have two bullets in the mag, if you can dodge the first shot, he will immediately shoot himself in the head to avoid becoming a POW.
When you die in a trench I'm going to send the video to your mother.
>Guys it's on a Ukrainian Twitter account, so it must be true
Yes
Remember lads, the Moskva returned under its own power
Ooh, maybe it was some FSB dudes. When they get assassinated Russia almost always cries civilian.
I'm sure Moscow is using their very limited airlift resources transport less than 80 pows rather than just ship them with trains and busses. The hastily rushed cope coming out is absolutely hilarious
I don't get this cope
>Imagine transporting PEOPLE on a PLANE!
>hohol POWs get comfy rides on a transport plane
>mobiks get cubed and packed onto a truck
why are ziggers like this?
I think it shows class :^)
Here's what I think happened here
>Prisoner exchange planned for today
>IL-76 gets shot down
>Russian officials get pissed
>Cancel planned exchange
>Telegram Schizophrenics connect the two events and claim POWs were on the plane
>Russian media runs with it
Seeing how Russians don't care about their soldiers' lives, it's perfect. I'm expecting the bodies of the Russian soldiers in the crash to be stripped of uniforms and paraded as the supposed POWs in a few hours, screencap this.
Don't forget
>the russian pilots/crew of the IL-76 get scratched as MIA and somebody pockets the money that was destined to their families
Yeah it's interesting how they found names of all pows but not a single name of dead Russian
All Russian crew returned to airport under own power
Here's the actual list of the Ukrainian POWs killed by hohol AA, provided by the Russian MoD:
Smee
Maimen
Dr. Pavelier
Button Lee
Juan Avieu
Fast "Owen" Tattak
Getsu Steyion
Mayer Kraft
Huppe Iydiu
Tukrab Doktopavel
Hidinyiv Laisogut
Juan Zutrainekt
Tilmyia Bautbeyn
Luai Dozi
Wier Damasc
Lotal Oiatty
Farah Hayardigone
Atlas Yucantak
Juar Yu
Ivay Pul
Tatov
Will Yudai
Yuri Bigaev
23 piggies toasted. Some even NATO volunteers judging by their names
I heard Samir Hydavich was also on the plane.
>N-no you wuz killing 6 million hoholerinos!!! Glorious rasha said it was true you dumb wextoid!!
More likely waiting for Russia to lie and then they'll release evidence proving that Russia lied
>IL76
That's a big plane, and since they aren't building any new planes that loss will hurt them in the long run
>That's a big plane,
uuuu
Why does Russia transport mobiks In meat cubes, but gives Hohol POWs comfy plane rides?
Not just comfy, very comfy if they used an entire Il-76 for 65 blokes lmao
Considering how frantic the Rusnig spam machine has gotten over this, whoever was actually on board must have been really important, really embarrassing, or both. It's always kind of exciting waiting for the truth of a new humiliation for Russia to come out
>the claim that the list of names is anything official?
OHNONONO THE BACKTRACKING HAS STARTED, NOW LIST IS NOT REAL
OSINT, whaddyawant?
Already starting to see cope that information about PoW on board is not official
Well, as we can see from this video of the crash over Belgorod, the plane was indeed carrying POW's.
If by POW's you mean Pathetic Old Weapons of course because it looks like a 2000lb bomb went off.
This is irrelevant to the thread, but the lady who filmed this sounds like a cat, which could imply that the Russians have started to create genetically-engineered cat girls to fight the HATO Super Soldiers
https://nitter.net/wartranslated/status/1750081419555086832
Oh, I just found the full video and it appears that the plane was either shot down, or had a bomb on board, given the smoke and erratic tumbling of the aircraft.
It appears that the people of the Belgorod People's Republic have once again stood up to their true enemy in the Russian Airforce.
https://nitter.net/wartranslated/status/1750097262829568288
>that explosion
pows for suuuuure. confirmed 200% now.
Apparently Ukrainians are made of tannerite.
There is NO way that it was Friendly fire, just no way. plane is too big to be mistaken for a drone a missile, if it was FF then S-300/S-400 operator must had been shooting krokodil
Under what circumstance would a puccian AA Operator NOT be shooting Krokodil, anon?
Those morons managed to shoot down their own AWACS in controlled airspace, I wouldn't put it past them.
You understand that was the Ukrainians shooting it down right?
They might have thought it was another important big aircraft like that A-50
That's a really big fireball for a plane full of meat.
Also, absolutely no trace whatsoever of any smoke or debris trail between the plane/crash site and the alleged mushroom cloud from an S-300 missile.
>That's a really big fireball for a plane full of meat.
what do you think happens to the many 10,000s of liters in jet fuel when a plane crashes?
We are now in whatever stage of cope that tries to claim planes can't explode when crashing
>claim planes can't explode when crashing
I can't find the post (You) are referring to. Please link to it. thx
I've seen numerous videos of large planes crashing & exploding. This
is still a big fricking fireball, even for a plane freshly topped off with jet fuel. Interesting that you are asserting the plane was taking off with a full fuel load, though. It would explain why it was flying so low ... but, then, it would have been departing the airport rather than landing.
>Interesting that you are asserting the plane was taking off with a full fuel load, though.
Where did I assert this? Even at 1/3 load an IL-76 carries close to ~50,000L of fuel. Are we rolling with the
>uh actually the fireball was too big to be from a plane carrying people
Why not just wait until the inevitable Russian lie is exposed instead of looking like a moron on the internet trying to assert you can identify a plane’s cargo by the resulting fireball size?
I'd say the fireball size proves the plane was taking off and not landing. Usually planes fill just enough fuel for the flight, to reduce weight. And if it was taking off - why would it have ukie PoWs which were supposedly brought to Belgorod for the exchange?
It's not that the lies are blatant, but in the context of all other facts, they don't make sense. It's made even worse by the released list of names, which has names of people already exchanged earlier. This makes it look like a hastily thrown together list to cover up a frickup.
Anon, you silly sod, the crash happened miles away and the fireball blotted out a good chunk of the horizon instantly. There's simply far too much fire for it to be fuel alone, as we can see from this other Russian frick-up.
Steel beams melt
>the alleged mushroom cloud from an S-300 missile.
This is so moronic.
Absent a faster explosion this could plausibly be just the fuel from a plane on almost full tanks having a very hard crash. I think the 65 POW angle is supposed to suggest perfidy and lack of care for soldier lives instead of any particularly valuable souls lost (aside from russian pilots and the airframe).
>could plausibly be just the fuel from a plane on almost full tanks having a very hard crash
So it was taking off, not landing? And, "almost full tanks" indicates it was scheduled for a long flight, rather than a short hop?
What we're looking, then, is an Il-76 taking off from Belgorod and headed North/NorthWest. It was laden (it seems) ... so, what cargo was it transporting out of Belgorod? What's in Belgorod that needs to be flown somewhere else? To the North-ish? And, why would an Il-76 need so much fuel? If it was just hopping to moscow or pidorsburg, the tanks would not need to be nearly filled. Neither military nor civilian flights overload more fuel than they need for the current trip, it's an idiotic waste of resources & cost. Depending on weather, there would be something like a 5% to 10% surplus to accommodate unforeseen circumstances (getting stuck in a holding pattern otr re-routed, for examples).
Really big fireball. Lots of fuel (for what reasons?), and/or exploding cargo. And, looking more and more like a departing flight from Belgorod, not an arriving flight.
>And, looking more and more like a departing flight from Belgorod, not an arriving flight.
we already know that it (briefly) landed and refueled after its Iranian sojourn, and was taking off in a north-eastern flight direction before crashing near the settlement of Yablunovo.
>what was it transporting tho
captured HATO super soldiers.
>>what was it transporting tho
>captured HATO super soldiers.
Shit. It's all coming together. HATO super soldiers are known to be highly explosive.
Mystery. Solved. Time for Scooby Snax.
Based, they'd probably just surrender again while Russia will NEVER recover from losing a transport plane
So what they were human shields?
Not yet, that's only after they've been returned. Ukraine needs its 500,000 men for another counter offensive.
I wouldn't put it past the subhumans to do exactly that. I mean they burned POWs to death and gloated about it in the past
Considering this plane came out of Iran, what do you think the odds are that it was ferrying Iranian military advisors and/or politicians?
>inb4 Iran lost another general
This is the real reason why shitskins are here. Ukrainians killed the shitssian's precious brown overlords and now they're mad
i'd say shasneeds and other iranian shit is more likely. maybe they're scared to transport by the sea with all the latest smooking incidents on their ships.
how many shitsneeds can a airplane carry, seems counterproductive
>i'd say shasneeds and other iranian shit is more likely
these are transported by ship though, not by plane.
I think you're agreeing it was shot down to easily, I think you can cope about it just falling out of the sky without resorting to imagining that Iranian generals are hitching a ride to Russia on a military transport next to some box fresh drones and artillery shells.
Yeah, but when A-50 was shot down, russians blamed themselves. Why would they try so hard to blame Ukraine over some c300 missiles?
Ukraine retracted the claim the plane had S-300s on it.
Well actually I'll be more fair than NAFO anons are, the Ukrainian news website that claimed it had S-300s on board retracted the claim.
can't use same cope two times in a row, it's in the rules.
I would cum so hard if this took out half the iranian government
>neither russia or Ukraine shot down the plane
>some iranian accidentally sat on his vest's detonator
>mfw it's Israel assassinating another Iranian general
Do we even know which il76 it was? Some anons are saying it came from Iran but how the frick do they know?
If the plane kept it's flight tracker on, anyone could have watched it's entire flight from Russia to Iran and back again.
It would simply be a case of seeing which planes disappeared over Belgorod and follow the trail backwards to see where it came from.
Bullshit, planes crashing make way smaller fireballs than that! Remember 9/11? At first they needed to check someone hadn't just let off a firework.
Let Russoids dig deeper hole. Turns out plane wasn't flying to Belgorod and list of prisoners is fake
Maybe the other Anons are right, and some high-up Iranian official or IRGC Commander got killed by friendly fire in Russian territory, so they're holding fire to work out who the Russians killed.
Do you think A-50 crew cried before their deaths or patriot killed all instantly?
Patriot isn't a headhunter missile like some of ours, so they were probably alive until they hit the Earth.
Generally people who are set on fire scream, rather than crying.
Do you scream while orgasming over the image?
WAR CRIME
Russians: SHOOTING DOWN A RuAF JETS THAT ARE NOT STRIKE FIGHTERS OR DOG FIGHTERS IS A WAR CRIME
because unlike the recent A-50 or Il-22 kills, they probably didn't have much to do with this one going down, and haven't finished discussions regarding consequences and root cause.
The RU MoD hasn't either, obviously. Which is why we have a moronic POW narrative that didn't even survive casual inspection.
Agree, don't forget that when those planes were shot down it took at least 24hours until both sides confirmed who hit what
The difference is that Ukrainian media claimed it was their doing and then didn't retract that claim. This time they did retract the claim it was their work.
"Ukrainian media" being UP, which cited Russian sources before the edit. Unlike the A-50 case, where there was an official statement by the UkrMOD.
Speaking of MOD, pic related lol.
There is no panic
Russian AD did it again!
>Have no fear citizens, the Ukies have just started to use cargo planes as budget ICBMs
How is this better?
>Duty air defence
So Duty somehow has AD systems, but still can't keep the dogs from the entrance to the Bar? Pathetic.
Yes, Duty has to keep an eye on the Bilhorod Airport anomaly.
Those weren't dogs,they were monolith
Also those weren't duty guards in the entrance to the bar, they were clearly freedom nazis
>So Duty somehow has AD systems, but still can't keep the dogs from the entrance to the Bar? Pathetic.
its complicated when your enemy is freedom you can expect anything
It took about a day for Russia to decide it was friendly fire of an A-50 and Il-22.
However, UKR telegrams and media were flooded with rumors of their shoot downs within ~4 hours of it happening. We had audio leaks of the Il-22's emergency landing transmission within half a day.
It is with a heavy heart that I must report at least one Borish Jonhson died among the +100 french mercenary POWs in this crash
truly a war crime, when will Zelensky surrender?
Lmao it really WAS some IRGC guy, wasn't it?
Karabakh is Azeri
I support Ukraine and Azeris are just as bad as ziggers. I hope I see Baku burn within my lifetime.
Got to say the whole POWs strategy is actually working, instead of laughing at russia for being moronic snowmonkeys people are challenging the russian bias
But now every other loss will be more humiliating because people will laugh that "su-34 was crewed by hohol PoWs" when another gets shot down
While at the same time, if it's revealed that Ukraine did do it, then they'll get off scott free like when they bombed Poland and blamed it on Russia. I hear ya anon, but life is just unfair that way sometimes.
>SU-34 gets shoot down
>LOL STUPID HOLOLS THE PILOT WAS DEFECTING RUSSIA
>Ship gets sink in the black sea
>LOL DUMB HOLOLS SHIP WAS TAKEN BY PIGS COMMANDOS HOHOHO
And so a new cope is born
>Why so cautious?
Possibly because they had no idea tis happened until the accusations started getting published. It's too early to assume the Ukies shot his plane down, they may be just as surprised as everyone else and are trying to sort through the vatBlack person tsunami of lies.
it only proves the russians are fricking NOT trustworthy, moron
even if russians start talking only the truth from tomorrow, no one's going to believe it because they lied though their asses for decades, if not centuries
don't you learn the story of the "lying shepherd" in the shithole you live in, fricking moronic cumguzzler?
Frankly I wouldn't believe anything a Russian says unless he doesn't change the story after being tortured.
Remember Eggless One, no refunds
Ukraine supports Armenia you hairy bastard
>you hairy bastard
Made me chuckle
Not it doesn’t moron. Ukraine was bragging about Azeris sending them food aid
I'm always amazed at how Russians pick the least believable lie every time.
It's like they don't even want you to believe it and they just lie out of reflex
>Russians pick the least believable lie every time
it's not about the truth, its about dominance.
Telling a bold faced lie and nobody being allowed to contradict them is the ultimate mark of status for them.
>amazed
Russians literally have a word and a cultural concept where you tell the most bold faced shameless lie you can possibly make up directly to someone's face and dare them to call you out on it as a show of dominance.
Readovka posted a video of the crash site. Lots of debris, only 1 body.
https://nitter.cz/Getty776/status/1750172590688342377
I don't know why the nitter link only has one video so here's the shitter link with 2:
https://twitter.com/Getty776/status/1750172590688342377
Disappointing. I was hoping all this frantic shilling meant some foreign visitor or important officer had been a passenger.
I've seen a post say there could have been some Chechen bigwigs on board, but since the eggs are still being measured, nobody knows nothing at the moment
they expect one of us in the wreckage, bratishka
Definitely a SAM hit with all that fragmentation pockmarking
Now watch as their narrative changes from
>Plane full of POWs
to
>Plane was actually empty
>Stupid holols shoot down an empty plane
>the weapons and bombs were already unloaded
>we didn't need that anyway
To be fair, it was supposedly leaving from Belgorod when it got shot down. Assuming it had stuff from Iran, most of it got probably dropped off in Belgorod.
>but they already executed the POWs to match the previous narrative
>only 1 body.
don't worry about it 🙂
Here's the WEBM of the first video.
I'm not expert in airplane crashes, but going by the lack of scorch marks and recognisable pieces of debris, it looks like the entire thing just vaporised on contact with the ground and turned into a giant frag grenade.
There are 2 bodies on this webm. Looks like Ukrainian uniform, but I'm not sure, it's blurred.
>Looks like Ukrainian uniform
Plane was Ukrainian too
>1 (one) corpse that appears to be wearing one of those bright orange jacket that Russian pilots wear
vatnisissies... this doesn't look good
Man I don't even know what to tell you it looks like the entire IL-76 just disintegrated immediately on contact, from what I'm seeing plane doesn't have an engine, pilot or wienerpit anymore
the second video shows the fuselage and it's completely shot through like swiss cheese
Here's the second video.
Here we can see the landing gear and a part of the fuselage, which seems to have suffered an internal explosion as it looks like the shrapnel holes are pointing outwards instead of inwards for the most part.
That wheel looks in pretty damn good condition!
>those holes in the fuselage
Yep that bird was shot down
>which seems to have suffered an internal explosion
Hohols filled with tannerite meant to be used against trigger happy fsb glories.
Another smoker?
>shrapnel holes are pointing outwards instead of inwards for the most part
Because AA shrapnel couldn't possibly go in one side of a plane and exit the other.
Also, disagree about dimpling outward. Most seem to dimple inward with a few exceptions blooming out. No establishing shot of what part of the plane is being videoed. I wouldn't go claiming which segment we're looking at until better pix/vid emerges.
There was a 300 foot tall fireball when it crashed and exploded. I'm amazed that there's anything bigger than a lunchbox in the debris.
Why does it look like the body was dragged?
It was crashing down from the sky, but with a certain angle.
>It was crashing down from the sky, but with a certain angle.
That's called "Falling with style."
Probably thrown from wreckage
it was a Ukrainian POW 1 body
>anonymous sources familiar with the matter
anon there is no country on this earth where that line is an not immediate indicator of nonsense.
But this thread is raising shit posted on anonymous imageboards and telegram as proof of there not being POWs on the plane, when the expectation isn't on them to prove a negative anyway lmao
The "anonymous shit" are the claims and rapid refutation of the POW narrative.
>you're saying the POW narrative is moronic, end-to-end?
yes
The POW narrative isn't coming from anonymous sources on the Russian side.
post an archive link proving otherwise.
What? The point is that the burden of proof isn't on the ukrops and yet they desperately trying to prove a negative using anonymous and unverifiable sources from imag boards and telegram.
I'm sorry, but that doesn't exude confidence that Russia is lying, though it is down to Russia to provide concrete evidence before this can be taken seriously.
>lot of cope
>no source
there we have it
Rip in pepperoni, wreckage brother.
We need the uncensored version to see how the bodies are dressed.
YWNBPOTGN (you will never be part of the global north)
This is unironically Ukraine's standard MO when Russia claims something and they have no clue about it. Makes me think Russians shot it down themselves.
Normal people look into things before making a statement. Only when you rely on a Firehose of Falsehoods are you expected to fabricate an entire narrative withing ten minutes to ensure there's no dead air.
webm is a korean dude btw.
>would
sauce?
I thought there was something fishy about that cat.
I doubt it tbh, I've yet to see a korean dude with an ass that juicy. And I've seen quite a few.
I'm happy to be proven wrong though.
I don't know why you idiots enjoy making yourself seem stupid
Official statement from AFU General Staff:
*To reduce the missile threat, the Armed Forces of Ukraine not only control the airspace but also closely monitor missile launch points and the logistics of their supply, especially using military transport aviation. The increased intensity of shelling is directly linked to the growing number of military transport aircraft recently directed towards the Belgorod airfield.
Taking this into account, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will continue to take measures to destroy delivery means and control airspace to eliminate the terrorist threat, including the Belgorod-Kharkiv direction.*
Yeah, because Ukraine wasn't bombing Poland.
>Screams volumes that there's not been a single denial from Ukraine even from unofficial sources.
Only to shills or moronic /misc/Black folk.
>I don't get it. Why aren't they shouting some insane lie from the rooftops?
>it'll end the war so fast
Eh, imma give it two weeks
doing moronic edgy shit like that is the main reason why Russia is losing and will lose this war
The plane was hit with Aster 30 missile. Anonymous sources in Russian MoD confirms. Not Patriot.
yup. heres the new list
>Brzęczyszczykiewicz is dead
good. that fricker started WW2. bet he was iching to start the third one too.
it's over for oinkraine
Patron… no
Where is Boris Johnson, was he not on this flight?
FAKE
There were 4 Boris Johnsons on board
>no boris
How did he know?
>Screams volumes that there's not been a single denial from Ukraine even from unofficial sources.
wtf the UKR MoD doesn't know why your garbage-plane crashed this is IMPOSSIBLE 6 million POWs dead NOW
>a nuke on a pigger city/village. It'll end the war so fast.
This seems a great way to get russia erased from the map so I’m for it
Can someone explain why people keep saying things like "no list"? What is this in reference to?
The Russian cope is that this plane was carrying POWs and claimed they had a list of the names. The list turned out to be a bunch of random names on record, as 25% of the claimed prisoners had actually been returned to Ukraine months ago. So now the proof the Russians had is completely useless and all we have left is a plane tumbling from the air and erupting into a massive fireball.
So they lied not once but twice by providing a bullshit meme list
Lol, yeah im sure russia has advanced and fast reaction systems similar to their counter battery abilities
You better be.
the only thing russia has is Super AIDS and gay prostitutes
They're trying to figure out how to tell the UK that they managed to get all three Boris Johnsons they were sent killed in one botched mid-air hijacking.
I no longer believe Russian nukes will function or that their carriers rockets are capable of being fired.
And that is because the thought of that makes you feel safe, even if you know deep down that you’re being childishly deluded
I feel completely safe at all times from non-existent Russian nukes, Anon. Maybe if Russia could have a nuclear test that didn't fail, I would change my mind. But they're at 3 for 3 failed tests in the last two years so I'm good.
Considering the absolute state of everything in russia and the relative costs of maintaining the us nuclear triad, i can confidently say that their abilities are severely degraded by their own incompetence
>makes you feel safe
No that's webmrelated.
Real passenger list just dropped
Fake list
MUSK Elon was on it too
oh no they got Brzęczyzczykiewic!
Where is Donatello Shariy
>Brzeszczęszczykiewicz Grzegorz
Oh no, how did they kidnap him from Chrząszczyżewoszyce, Łękołody oblast?
No Dr. Pavel? Disgusting.
Ukraine has no air defence, Russian Army has already destroyed all Patriots and IRIS-T. Hohols couldn't shoot Il-76.
We're going to need to bake a new bread soon.
You're brown, have no sources, and moreover nobody in this tread (or anywhere else) has yet to describe a sound reason why there would be Ukrainians POWs in Iran to begin with.
The frick does this look like to you Black person
>constantly try to spam a narrative to legitimize the PoW claim
>Why are you trying to disprove something that hasn't been proven hohol?
We're at the "we never did such a thing" stage of cope.
>"why are you bothered by my paper-thin lies and moronation ;*~~)???"
brown, and blind.
I can only assume IRGC advisors are dead at this point.
Russian Zoomer 18 Year Old BUK Operators with low sleep drinking Monster seeing a blip at Belgorod Airport Be Like:
?si=3go10CpckrfrK8yy
>it was just found somewhere and is being used to discredit the entire claim which is probably why this list was "found" in the first place.
You frickers were busy spamming it just an hour ago.
Holy cope and seeth
Don't shit your pants too hard there bud
Who thought putting the PTSD-riddled quadriplegic on a stream was good idea?
>The POW claim had come from the Russian government
The Russian Government?
THE russian government that said they weren't going to invade ukraine and then went and invaded ukraine?
>There's no "You"s involved.
Oh you fricking moron.
Id like to point out that nearly all russian government claims have been false for the last 2 years
>Until it's substantiated with evidence from Russia
So... if Russia never provides any evidence, their claim should be just left unchallenged? What kind of fricked-up logic is this?
>this war has proven OSINT on both sides to be bad and not worth much
Going to cry about Oryx?
>Russia is lying
>Well both sides are lying actually
If you shills stopped trying to claim baseless moronation, we'd stop trying to disprove baseless moronation. Challenging false claims is key in information handling.
>Why would you need to disprove a lie
Russians really are subhuman.
https://glavcom.ua/country/incidents/masshtabnij-obmin-polonenikh-opublikovano-povnij-spisok-zvilnenikh-ukrajintsiv-978250.html
so heres the real list of prisoners exchanged on jan 3
Tactical benefit of taking out friendly POWs?
>taking out friendly POWs?
[Chorus 1]
I am the missile that is approaching
Provoking
Flak clouds in isolation
I am reclaimer of my air space
Born by Soviets
I have been fired
My Russian crest is a demon of death!
Forsakened, I am awakened
A SAM's ash in dark divine
Descending IL76s
Destiny chasing time
[Verse 2]
Inherit the air space
Surrounded by ATACAMS
Can’t fly away
Keep scanning the line
Between the blips
Led astray
100% this poster is brown and his middle name is Salim
From
>Ukrainian OSINT is as unreliable as Russian OSINT
to
>Random telegram channels from Ukraine are as worthless as Russia's OSINT
I'm glad you admitted that Russian claims are akin to a schizophrenic posting on telegram, but you need to work on your strawmen.
You really don't understand how information warfare works, do you?
>information warfare
more like ziggers trying badly to save face after fricking up again and losing another $50 million aircraft
>Disputing the claim that people died is tantamount to proving a negative
Dude you don't know rhetoric in the slightest, please stop.
Who's talking about rhetoric? This is about not wasting your time and embarrassing yourself by thinking either unsubstantiated claims or claims backed up by anonymous online sources are worth discussing lmao
>unsubstantiated claims or claims backed up by anonymous online sources are worth discussing
>discussing
You really don't understand how information warfare works.
You've been running circles around yourself trying to stop people from debunking your narratives and trying to obtain actual proof of what happened. Methinks your house of lies is built of glass.
>why then the desperate need to disprove its claims
>desperate
Not much desperation considering practically every word out of poccia is a lie. But to answer your question, people want to immediately squash moronic claims like this so that we don't have to listen to morons going "remember when you shot down 6 million POWs, hohols?" every day for months. Especially if dumb shit like that can potentially affect support and funding for the war.
Nothing can get in the way of TZD
I forgot to add one more thing, another reason for disproving the bullshit claims is the pure enjoyment of watching zigger backtrack and go "oh but we never said anything like this"
One would think that since it happens constantly it would lose its charm, but to me at least it's always fricking hilarious. Probably because it's a reflection of how shit they are, which is a wonderful indicator of how hard they're going to lose
What the frick are you talking about? I haven't posted anything from any social media ITT. Of course, even *that* is more reliable that official Russian claims, that goes without saying.
From "OSINT on both sides is not worth much"
To
"Ukrainian telegrams prove nothing"
To
"Don't say anything if presented with bullshit"
To
"Trying to disprove things is CIA shit"
The narrative changed 4 times in a single reply chain.
It's like the Cube all over again.
What did you fricking idiots do now to cause you all to be having such a severe mental breakdown?
Turkey just approved Sweden's HATO bid, so all that's left between them and accession is lolban.
wtf is that tho ?
I personally believe it's the minced remains of rear area command staff that were brought back for ID'ing and storage, but got accidently left behind.
The /k/ube
mobik.zip
.7zig
There are many names for the 1 use Russia found for pallets
Prighozin's former business dealings or what was left of it. The cube showed up around the time he had been exiled to Belarus after all.
>, the currently unnecessary counter claims
>STOP INTERFERING WITH OUR FIREHOSE OF FALSEHOOD
Lol
Gerasimov and Shoigu confirmed as Cubed.
I mean I can see a possibility in which Russia forgot to mention that the POW's were on the plane prior but even if you could assume that a plane landing in an extremely unsafe area on the day of a planned diplomatic action that is supposed to occur within the vicinity is likely connected to that action. Seems like Ukranians were a little trigger happy and forgot the saying "If it's too good to be true...". They might be hoping that Russia won't be able to submit proof of the prior notice if Russia really didn't forget.
no link moron pig
>no such news exists
https://gur.gov.ua/en.html
You should be hanged, brownoid.
At this point its not even propaganda or infowar anymore, its an attempt at covering it up. They really want people to think it was anything than what was on that plane.
NTA, but it is on the non-English site though, at least it is visible if you translate the original, Ukranian website.
So Russia got their prisoners back while Russia shot down their own IL-76 filled with Ukrainian POWs?
No, Russia will get their PoWs in the same condition Ukraine will get theirs.
>10,00,000%
who writes like this
like what the frick
Easy guess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numbering_system
>Ukrainians = israelite
>but also Ukrainians = Nazis
>but also we're gonna' send our own Nazis to de-Nazify the Nazi israeli regime
how much vodka and krokodil does one have to consume before this becomes convincing?
It's simple, Nazi = someone opposed to the USSR, or in this case, the USSR wannabes with AIDS.
Okay but, what's Gerassimov's stance on this news?
>we can't win
>surely doing evil shit like that will help us win
You will die. We will laugh.
>Casually admits to a warcrime to own the hecking holols xaxaxa
On a tangentially related news, since Russia loves fake lists full of names, here are the killed Frog mercenaries from last week
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1750075781022101869
Admire the old ass names from the last century that nobody gives anymore, much like no German is named Adolf anymore. Either they asked chatGPT, or they took some names from an old war monument dedicated to the dead.
They randomly generated names and took the ones that didn't provide any Google matches.
How does AI know French names? From digitized books, Wikipedia, news articles. I.e. sources with a strong bias towards older names, enforcing an even stronger bias with the requirement of no google hit
Man, it feels like we count be witnessing a change in zigger propaganda spin.
Maybe after 2 years they realized that the good old IT DID NOT HAPPEN YOU WESTOID NAFO TROON, BTW WE KILLED 6 BILLIONS XOXOLS TODAY narrative makes them look even more moronic so now the name of the game is to poison an informational space with bold but somewhat plausible lies so they can capture viewers attention and maybe make the other side somewhat more hesitant.
If the next time when something goes down over the Black Sea and we will hear ziggers crying something lime "Xoxols shoot down civilian airliner, Zelenskyyy should be in Hague for it" the pattern will be obvious.