Which explosive weapons were used to bomb Dresden? What kinds of yields?

Which explosive weapons were used to bomb Dresden? What kinds of yields?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the nazis were evil
    >well we just don't talk about firebombing xD

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How does a firebomb even work? What's the mechanism of action?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Burning rods of magnesium and phosphorus.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://youtu.be/78cYu7Bdj9s
          there were various types, some thermite, some that acted like a napalm launcher after impact, some phosphorus or lithium based.

          We had napalm in the 40s? I genuinely thought it was developed for use in Vietnam. Shows how much my dumbass knows lmao

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            chemistry in the 1940s was already pretty advanced. a lot of the big things that have changed since are the quality of analytical methods and scalability of processes

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              In middle school my friends and I would make "napalm" by dissolving styrofoam in gasoline and lighting it on fire.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think half the people in my program started with firebombs or fireworks attempts in adolescence.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Which program is that? Some kind of prison thing?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I am a chemist

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, cool. I job shadowed at the USDA here in Peoria, and that was what made me decide the lab life is not for me.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Fed labs are pretty soul sucking, my old boss worked for DoE at Ames.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              nah mate, we didn't know jack shit in the 40's, it was the 60's where everything was ironed out
              rocket propellant literally didn't exist yet

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                we've been blowing shit up with nitrogen since the early 1800s, hydrazine is even older, propellant goes back to firework history

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            fighter drop tanks were used as proto-napalm bombs too

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. It was developed towards the end of the war. It wasn't really used much in strategic bombing; there was one raid against fortifications on France's Atlantic coast, and it was discovered that if you drop napalm from a great height, it doesn't really spread effectively; it needs to impact while still moving laterally, which means a low-altitude release is required. For high-altitude bombing, magnesium, thermite, phosphorus, etc., were far more effective.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They used napalm in flame throwers during WW2 to flush out enemy bunkers and caves in Japan.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Tokyo was burned to the ground with 'palm

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        there were various types, some thermite, some that acted like a napalm launcher after impact, some phosphorus or lithium based.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        lancasters with No 2 flamethrowers in their bomb bays flying at rooftop level

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think that's true.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The yields of the bombs wouldn't tell you much about the level of destruction caused by the attacks on Dresden. The important part is the firestorm. You basically drop lots of small incendiaries on a city and turn the place into a giant furnace.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestorm#City_firestorms

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Hamburg_in_World_War_II
        >It had become clear that incendiaries could inflict much more damage than high explosive bombs. Detailed study of this was carried out by the Research and Experiment unit, RE8, (set up in November 1941). The details of how German houses were constructed were examined and tests were carried out on models to determine how effective an incendiary attack would be. The precise ratio of high explosive bombs and incendiaries was calculated. The high explosive was to blow out windows and make fire fighting dangerous. High explosive bombs with delayed action fuses were included in the mix to further suppress any fire fighting effort. The quantity of incendiaries delivered had to be high enough to totally overwhelm any fire fighting capability, so that a conflagration could become established.The Americans took a high level of interest in the British research on the effect of incendiaries. American expertise and experiments added to the planning of fire bombing raids. Despite belief to the contrary, US aircraft also carried a carefully considered mix of high explosive and incendiary bombs. Large quantities of US-made oil-based incendiaries went into service with the 8th Bomber Command shortly before the Hamburg raid – this was preferred by the Americans to the 4 lb (1.8 kg) magnesium-cased thermite bomb used by the British.It is clear that the effectiveness of the Hamburg raid relied to a large extent on the careful research on how best to cause a large fire in a German city – as opposed to the popular view that it was some sort of accidental occurrence due to unusual weather conditions.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          forgot pic

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        First bombers drop HE to blow open buildings and throw material about. Next bombers drop incendiaries into the mess. Final wave drops HE again to kill firefighters and distribute burning material. Do it hard enough and the fire becomes so intense it generates storm-force winds.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The big bomb blows off the roofs. The little bombs rain down inside.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >noo you can't just bomb your enemies otherwise you will be evil just like them

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO ATTACK CIVILIAN TARGETS OR YOU LOSE THE WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Civilians are collaborators.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            /k/eddit moment

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >the nazis were evil
          >well we just don't talk about firebombing xD

          yeah it's not like the jerries did some indiscriminate bombing of their own

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            sow the wind, reap the firestorm ya dumb krauts

            >That one's for Rotterdam and Warsaw, Germoid!

            https://i.imgur.com/072dCIt.jpg

            DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRIS

            https://i.imgur.com/o9XoVlY.png

            I don't feel an iota of sorrow for Krauts. They were complacent with the Nazis and said nothing of when Rotterdam, Warsaw, London, and other cities were bombed, not for military gain, but demoralization. What the USAAF & RAF did was not humane, but should've been expected by those blonde-haired, blue-eyed homosexuals.

            I think it's a bit disingenuous to compare something like the blitz to the complete and utter incineration of Dresden, no?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Nazis would have done more if they were able
              The fact they got their cities torched harder than Britain did is just a reflection of the fact that they were weaker than the Allies, particularly in the air (and at sea but that has no relevance to bombing)
              a rabid dog must be put down

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Right, makes sense

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Dresden was a major transportation hub and this legitimate military target

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      sow the wind, reap the firestorm ya dumb krauts

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >That one's for Rotterdam and Warsaw, Germoid!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRIS

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRIS

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Do it again, Bomber Harris!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't feel an iota of sorrow for Krauts. They were complacent with the Nazis and said nothing of when Rotterdam, Warsaw, London, and other cities were bombed, not for military gain, but demoralization. What the USAAF & RAF did was not humane, but should've been expected by those blonde-haired, blue-eyed homosexuals.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      NOOOOOO WE NEEDED TO DELETE ROTTERDAM AFTER THE DUTCH CAPITULATED BECAUSE...BECAUSE...
      Cry about it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it shouldve been worse

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >still believing the "dresden" myth that the commies made up

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they had it coming.
    everyone is super happy with killing civilians until it's happening to you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Churchill started bombing civilians, Hitler only engaged military targets before that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        HItler bombed civilians in Poland and Holland.

        Rotterdam wasn't a military target that was a pure terror bombing.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The curry posting is off the charts !!!!!!!! It's worse than the Moskva !!!!!! Post ANYTHING AT ALL !!!!!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm American. Talk about explosive weaponry, or find a new thread.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Cumtown
        im sorry what?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Don't worry it, pal.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think the firebombing of east tokyo is the worlds deadliest air raid including the nukes.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              ixnay on the edliestde

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sneeds and seeds

        I too am an american from Florida oblast and think we should discuss this interesting topic and also accuse each other of war crimes and argue within each other. Also we should remove sanctions from russia, whcih is our friend.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What is your favorite incendiary bomb?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >(Actual location may be different)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You are a mexican from eglin air force base and you need to go back to mexico.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        god damn do windows cucks really deal with this shit
        half of your screen is fricking ads

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That was just to prove where I'm from by showing the local weather / news, moron.

          Fed labs are pretty soul sucking, my old boss worked for DoE at Ames.

          Well, it's too late now!

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >drop some bombs on important military targets
      vs
      >just bombing entire cities and killing everybody

      ok goy your master is doing the same right now in gaza.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >A major communications node and railway junction isn't an important military target
        /pol/Black folk should be banned from using every other board.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You're the gay discussing politics in a thread that's supposed to be about incendiary and explosive devices.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >discussing politics
            >pointing out that the city is a valid military target
            You're stupid.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ok but why did you need to destroy the entire city then?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They sowed the wind, and they reaped the whirlwind.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you in a discussion about WW2 bombing if you don't understand the most basic aspects of it? Do you think they had guide bombs?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              see

              The yields of the bombs wouldn't tell you much about the level of destruction caused by the attacks on Dresden. The important part is the firestorm. You basically drop lots of small incendiaries on a city and turn the place into a giant furnace.
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestorm#City_firestorms

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Hamburg_in_World_War_II
              >It had become clear that incendiaries could inflict much more damage than high explosive bombs. Detailed study of this was carried out by the Research and Experiment unit, RE8, (set up in November 1941). The details of how German houses were constructed were examined and tests were carried out on models to determine how effective an incendiary attack would be. The precise ratio of high explosive bombs and incendiaries was calculated. The high explosive was to blow out windows and make fire fighting dangerous. High explosive bombs with delayed action fuses were included in the mix to further suppress any fire fighting effort. The quantity of incendiaries delivered had to be high enough to totally overwhelm any fire fighting capability, so that a conflagration could become established.The Americans took a high level of interest in the British research on the effect of incendiaries. American expertise and experiments added to the planning of fire bombing raids. Despite belief to the contrary, US aircraft also carried a carefully considered mix of high explosive and incendiary bombs. Large quantities of US-made oil-based incendiaries went into service with the 8th Bomber Command shortly before the Hamburg raid – this was preferred by the Americans to the 4 lb (1.8 kg) magnesium-cased thermite bomb used by the British.It is clear that the effectiveness of the Hamburg raid relied to a large extent on the careful research on how best to cause a large fire in a German city – as opposed to the popular view that it was some sort of accidental occurrence due to unusual weather conditions.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Again, you don't know jackshit about targeting and accuracy in the RAF. You can say level bombing was a mistake, that it didn't work out, that they should have known that, and I would agree - but the intention was to deal the maximum damage to enemy military and industrial targets, regardless of civilian casualties. Asking "why didn't they just bomb the factory alone" is the sort of thing children do when they haven't learned that 1940 didn't have the same technology as 2010

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you don't know jackshit about targeting and accuracy in the RAF.
                I never claimed to. You're aware there are multiple people in this thread, right?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Then what the frick did you mean by linking that post?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            israelites hate germans

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Didn't destroy the whole city.
            They tried to hit the railway and some factories.
            Things is, the 3 big railway stations are like right there in the center, you can google maps it, so yeah, that's how it went.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >>drop some bombs on important military targets
        ah yes, the "important military targets" of the entire inner cities of Rotterdam and Warsaw (Which were explicit terror bombardments).
        Frick israelites, frick sandBlack folk and frick krautBlack folk.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What kinds of explosive weaponry did they use in Rotterdam and Warszawa?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            50 and 250 kg bombs

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          seethe east european are not people

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >London and Rotterdam are eastern European

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >warsaw, rotterdam, london
        🙂
        >dresden
        🙁

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >important military targets
        >central london
        >central rotterdam
        >all of occupied warsaw

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >democratically elected
      people really believe this. holy shit.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    flame corridor bombs

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Epic slide thread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      These WWI firebombs are hilarious looking.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that the russians demanded air strikes on Dresden because it was a major transport node for troops heading east.
    It wasn't even on the target list other wise for USA and UK.
    Oh and the death toll was so high because the moronic nazi mayor refused to build bomb shelters and padlocked the few that did exist.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    nice legit thread*~~

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      see

      https://i.imgur.com/gg5Pdkh.png

      I'm American. Talk about explosive weaponry, or find a new thread.

      and

      https://i.imgur.com/Tdb6laE.png

      What is your favorite incendiary bomb?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    giving the internet to foreigners was a mistake

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      truest post ITT

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >zero effort put by OP
      >microshart screenshots (hello sars)
      >VPN exit node IP
      >no timestamp with hands
      >doesn't matter anyway ziggers or thirdworlders come in all skin colors
      >I JUST WANNA LEARN ABOUT HISTORY AND GUNS OKAY?? WHY U MAD
      Definitely thinly veiled west bad bait-posting. See pic rel for answer

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The right kind

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of person hates both Russians and Germans, and why are there so many of them on this board? This is a rhetorical question btw I know the answer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I deliberately antagonize and attack most of the world and now everyone hates me! how could this happen to me?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        see

        https://i.imgur.com/gg5Pdkh.png

        I'm American. Talk about explosive weaponry, or find a new thread.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >either a moron with a VPN or a moronic mutt upset his grandpappy got hanged at Nuremberg

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            My German ancestors all came to Illinois in the 1800s. My English grandmother actually lived through the Blitz before moving to Chicago as a teenager, so if anything I should be prejudiced against the Germans (I'm not).

            Then what the frick did you mean by linking that post?

            That other anon seemed to know what he was talking about, and he suggested that the entire plan from the start was the destroy the whole city with a firestorm.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, and my point was that level bombing by the RAF wasn't capable of accuracy enough to attempt anything else.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You seem to be ignoring the fact that they did research to figure out the best way to ignite a firestorm, which means that such a firestorm was the intended result. The plan was always to completely destroy the cities rather than take out strategic targets.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because they could not hit strategic targets without low level bombing, which was untenable because of such danger that even the 50%+ attrition rate of level bombing was preferable. The choice was between no night bombing, or night bombing a city instead of a factory complex.
                Again I'll say that I do agree it was the wrong move, purely militarily. This isn't totally backed up by the numbers because war manufacturing proper only started for the Germans very late in the war, at the point that precision bombing became possible due to daylight raiding particularly with American planes, but still.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you don't need a vpn to change the local time and region locale

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Ask me any question about Peoria, and I can answer it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Where's the gay bar, you colossal homosexual?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Right next to Ulrich's

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They had tyrannical socialist governments with designs on world conquest. They intended to rape, loot, pillage, and enslave everyone for the benefit of the Party members on top.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like colonialism.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Colonialism is doing those things to brown "people", and as such, Based.
          They wanted to do it to White people.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Irish people are at least as white as Polish people.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Let’s not get carried away Seamus

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >They had tyrannical socialist governments
        Lol, zoomers are so clueless.
        Hitler got his beliefsfrom US and said as much, down to brutality, racial supremacy and spending double digits of GDP in decade-long wars to acquire land by exterminating people who live on it.
        Yes, we know a different, reformed post-WW US. But that's not how it was when Hitler was growing up.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Hitler got his beliefsfrom US and said as much
          no he didn't
          >brutality, racial supremacy and spending double digits of GDP in decade-long wars to acquire land by exterminating people who live on it.
          they should've exterminated you, paco

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What is the difference between Lebensraum and Manifest Destiny?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The latter is done against sparse subhuman indians, not of your kind but subhumans nonetheless.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >muh moral relativism!
              Frick off, commie.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its called being a freedom-loving firstie? Both chimped out, both were autocracies, and the world would be better off without them (I mean Nazis, not current Germany whom I have no qualm with).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >What kind of person hates both Russians and Germans
      Americans.

      >and why are there so many of them on this board?
      American board.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Let's not prettend getting fire bombed is too kind of a fate for nazis

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      most germans werent nazis.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get it. Maybe the joke works better with sound, but I still don't see how the music video connects.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    all of them.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Max is a great boy. I love him. I got suspended for saying that Dresden was a terror bombing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Damn Twitter prudes, banning for everything nowadays

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically firebombing and the destruction of cities was better in the long term. Compare European cities that never got touched versus those that got more or less destroyed. The destroyed ones got rebuilt to support living in the modern industrialized era whereas the untouched ones are now a crumbling hodgepodge of congested streets and utilities that designed for the horse and cart era.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t. Hitler

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You are going to get meme'd but my town got destroyed during civil war in 1936, they built a new one next to the old one. We have newer and better houses, wider streets, etc.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Can confirm.
      t. Dresden citizen

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sure those children were happy to sacrifice their lives for less road congestion.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's just unfortunate that much of the postwar housing was built cheap and fast, leading to commieblock hellscapes

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Itt: neolibtard troons dilating each other over white deaths

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You start planning the firebombing of a city by studying the firefighting infrastructure. You need to know the water source and how the water is distributed. Also the location of fire stations. Those should be bombed in the first wave with demolition bombs. Fire bombing follows based on wind direction.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot to mention bombing bridges, tunnels and other transportation chokepoints to delay firefighting responses.

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