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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    PRC armed forces have all the incentive in the world to lie and make themselves appear as nonthreatening as possible. the longer they can boil the frog the better. they probably fed this disinformation to US intelligence and are quite happy that it is being reported

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's true. According to all sources, the People's Republic of China is strong. The nation is united, the military unmatched, the economy vibrant, and the people ever joyful.
      Similarly correct sources verified that China has always been triumphant. In other news, the Chinese government is fair, all-knowing, and wise, propelled by the strength of two billion loyal hands, all pulling together as one under the Great celestial Bureaucracy high above. Experts all agreed that there can be no question of this claim, as this claim is the truth. As of press time, the brute and inexpressive English language could not convey the full magnificence of China, nor its excellence in every arena, nor the protective warmth of the red sun that shines forever on its borders, nor the innumerable glories of its Great Leaders. New reports also indicate that China will grow stronger yet.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Celestial Bureaucracy

        This shit always makes me laugh, it's literally the most ungodly God realm you could possibly imagine. PRAISE BE TO THE GOD DMV! MAY YOUR FORMS BE FILED CORRECTLY AND EFFICIENTLY AND MAY YOUR ENEMIES DROWN IN RED TAPE!

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        That is superior way of damaging soft tissues through the use of revolving projectiles. you must reflect on your deeds to truly understand.

        The masterful use of language in use here reminds me of cultivation media, the greatest cope of chinese culture in fiction.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      strategic advantage of purging and executing the head of the rocket force you just placed in that position several months ago?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        To save yourself. Xi needs to look like nothing is his fault. Scapegoating subordinates is a long standing Chinese tradition, and it usually works. Hell, the loyal little dogs are probably expected to thank their boss for letting them die to protect his honor. Back in the Three Kingdoms era, Cao Cao nearly drove his men to mutinee after reducing their rations during a seige, so he blamed one of his quartermasters for corruption and was furious when the quartermaster called it bullshit, so Cao Cao beheaded the insolent subordinate and everyone was happy.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >We're just pretending to be moronic

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      That would be a sensible take if China wasn’t proving itself in nearly every way possible to be an actual paper tiger as of late. Either way we can already see dash cam videos and Liveleak footage by the truckload of China either being peak NPC land or like god himself decided to make Final Destination an actual reality in one country for the lulz. The cultural revolution absolutely demolished China.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The whole world is laughing at China and calling for increased accountability and pro democratic activism as we align on strengthening our democracies. This message is press by a plurality of organic voices.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        So AI gen, nobody actually talks like that.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          You are embarrassing yourself, CCP shill.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Once you understand how much of China runs on face culture over actually producing anything of value it becomes clear pretty quickly.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russia is the same. Too much grifting and corruption from top to bottom. Both Xi and Putin want corrupt systems that benefit them, and also to be strong enough to project power. You can’t do both.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Explain how solid booster can be filled with water, genius

      >China runs on face culture
      Nah, that's USA

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >n-no u
        strongest wumao retort

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          America does have a face-saving culture, but it's termed "ass-covering" instead. Government coverups are a dime a dozen. For example, the Epstein revelations, Hillary's email servers, Trump's inauguration audience numbers, etc

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >thats usa
        No, it aint lmao. The entirety of asia is reliant on appearance than actual practicality. The have the incentive to lie in order to look good.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          That does explain the rampant use of plastic surgery in Worst Korea

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hi Hapanda!

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Nah, that's USA
        literally the opposite. Americans (and much of the west in general) are far more critical of their societies and governments than your average chink, and much more willing to go digging in the muck to make their points. Hell, the biggest political divide these days in the U.S. aren't about whether the government and culture should be criticized or not, but rather which parts deserve more criticism than others. The worst thing a gòngfěi will ever say was that some bureaucrat who already got purged wasn't being devoted enough to the regime, or some demographic isn't being patriotic enough despite constantly getting shat-on, and will launch into hysterics at anyone who has the audacity to suggest there might be deeper, more fundamental problems with how things work.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >China claims to have purged the CIA
    >US reports chinese rockets full of water
    >China purges it's own military
    Oh I'm laughin

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did you forget the propaganda video where the bullets were keyholing at 10ft?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The craziest part of that video was that they were doing live fire in such a cramped space with cinder wall backstops. No one would be using live ammunition in that scenario, yet here they are shooting real bullets.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >cinder wall backstops
        You've no doubt seen the videos of superior chinese concrete that can be crumbled by hand, their cinder blocks probably have the strength of styrofoam, so all the risk is on the other side of the wall, safely out of sight.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      That is superior way of damaging soft tissues through the use of revolving projectiles. you must reflect on your deeds to truly understand.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        [...]

        >Holy shit the Chinese are inventing bullets that bounce back into the body to deal quadruple damage
        >Spend $381 trillion dollars to design new body armor
        >U.S. Army invents infantry body armor that can stop up to 35mm APHE and weighs less than 5lbs
        >The Chinese bullets were just rubber bullets jumping back into target paper

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The craziest part of that video was that they were doing live fire in such a cramped space with cinder wall backstops. No one would be using live ammunition in that scenario, yet here they are shooting real bullets.

      That is superior way of damaging soft tissues through the use of revolving projectiles. you must reflect on your deeds to truly understand.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        They are literally firing less than lethal rubber bullets, which are specifically engineered to impact with the broadside of the projectile, imparting the most kinetic damage to the target without penetration. It's been covered so many times on here and other places this little movie gets posted.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          proofs

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            have you ever seen bullets hit a brick wall?
            shit sends chunks flying, dust gets kicked up
            on top of that, the amount of people being shown shooting at the wall would have made a hole at that point
            you CAN see where there were idiot who DID use metal bullets on the backstops though, assuming thats not just chinesium brick being what it is

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, but

              [...]
              [...]

              isn't a brick wall, it's a chinesium cinder block wall, so whatever point you thought you were making is irrelevant.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >rubber bullets

          sure Chang, does this wall look like it's being hit with rubber bullets to you?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          those "rubber" bullets are making holes in what seems to be metal metal(?) stand

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          My skin and organs too can resist same stress like metals!

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/gmK8xV3.png

          >rubber bullets

          sure Chang, does this wall look like it's being hit with rubber bullets to you?

          those "rubber" bullets are making holes in what seems to be metal metal(?) stand

          he's not exactly right but half-way there
          it's hard plastic ammo not rubber LTL ammo
          that type of ammo was was popular for live-fire training (and qualification shooting in some cases) among european police before the 2000s since it's the exact same as firing for real but you avoid ricochet and sharp metal fragments
          you can run a lower powder charge and the bullet cost was something like 5-10% compared to conventional bullets
          it was mainly produced in 9mm, .357 etc. common european submachine gun/pistol/revolver but had non-existent availability to civilians
          it keyholes consistently because the bullets are so fricking light you can't stabilize them
          I've shot it before and it's easy to homebrew since you don't need an absolutely monstrous injection mould system to produce acceptable plastics anymore

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            if they are what you describe it sounds to me like you wouldn't need injection molding at all. you could just get some plastic rod and cut it to length. a square ended projectile is irrelevant if you aren't expecting it to stabilize anyway. if you can't get rod in the right diameter you could just turn it down on a lathe.

            Missiles that require expensive fuel were filled with inexpensive water. I said merchant but this would actually be military chain of command. An empty missile is suspicious. A missile filled with water is heavy. Someone would do this to skim fuel, either to sell off, or because their logistics are beyond stretched thin and they still want to make metrics. It's communist logistics all over again.

            the point is that modern missiles use solid fuel, so they should not be capable of containing a liquid I would think. The only kind of missile that could be readily filled with water would be liquid fueled, but they are largely obsolete to my knowledge.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              china till has some liquid fueled icbms, and cruise missiles use liquids too

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              The point is water weight.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              they aren't just plastic rods set to length, there was actual design going on
              their surface was grooved and most had a "wheel" type of face that was almost flat - I have no idea what the intention was behind that, except perhaps minimizing what potential was left for ricochet
              I forgot what the back looked like exactly but it wasn't just flat either
              there were some internal hollow channels within for further reducing weight and increasing crumpling, not a singular hollow because that would have lacked structural strength
              the bullets were VERY light

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >there were some internal hollow channels within for further reducing weight and increasing crumpling,
                sounds like they might have been extruded then if I am understanding your description correctly, that would make sense since it's very cheap and fast.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Keyholing at 10 feet

        superior Chinese ammo at work

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          why are they training to shoot Mexicans or Filipinos?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am prepared to grand that those could be rubber training bullets. Even so, would using full sized rubber bullets at that distance be safe as opposed to simunitions/chalk rounds?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus didn’t the changs invent firearms?

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You should be concerned that he's actually identified a problem and is attempting to fix it.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >same reasons given for putting Shoigu and Gerasimov in charge
      not super worried tbh.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I found out their current military modernization push was driven by the sheer terror in Party circles during Desert Storm as the more powerful Iraqi Army got instagibbed.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Great Leader purges the armed forces
    Oooh, I've seen this one before!

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nice try chang, but that's in Houston on I-45 near Hobby Airport.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What, your roads don't have style points?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      How in the frick? I'm no engineer, but even I think I couldn't frick this up.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        It is a physical display of the difference between theoretical science and applied science.
        In one having a fudge factor to make equations work is perfectly acceptable. Not so much in the other.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't "root out" corruption. Corruption happens when people can't afford a decent living legally. Stop being poor and pretending otherwise.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Corruption also happens when you're the wealthiest man alive so your theory has some holes.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"Create enough hunger and everyone becomes a criminal. Thus Xi's anti-corruption drive is just a fancy way to saying, "I want to control everyone." Everyone is corrupt in China, so anyone can be purged."

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    When the QINA STRONK post started to appear

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    ^^^bad b8 no (You)^^^

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't write them off as a joke (yet) but they have avoided any opportunity to show their skills. Fleeing in Sudan, ignoring distress calls near Yemen, etc. Outside of carefully rehearsed exercises, they've done nothing. It presents an aura of strength but only for internal audiences, very little different than North Korea.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It presents an aura of strength but only for internal audiences, very little different than North Korea.
      I managed to get on a tour of one of their hospital ships some years ago and there was a moment walking through a corridor where it felt like I had entered "North Korea" because they had propaganda music playing from the speakers on a loop, and there was a big poster on the wall depicting a giant Deng Xiaoping looking like Godzilla presiding over the PLAN. It was surreal. They were very insistent on showing off their medical equipment made in China, but most of complicated stuff wasn't.

      There was also a funny moment I remember when we entered the bridge and a sailor who had been lazily relaxing on the upper deck was surprised by the sudden arrival of foreigners, jumped up and ran past our group, like "ahh fugg!!" Like he wasn't supposed to be up there napping. There wasn't much going on that day, apparently. They were very polite though.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I first discovered The Lop Nur Incident and then it was cemented when I found out that the majority of officer training up to the rank of O5 consisted of Marxist dialectics and literal struggle sessions as of 2018.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What was the The Lop Nur Incident?
      Google search just shows some tourists who died in the desert.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        long story short: Mao's relative (nephew I think?) is a general, decides he wants some reforms in how the military is treated, basically he's afraid of a Stalin like purge and decides to march on Lop Nur - which was THE nuclear storage site at the time in the 60s. Hijinks ensue, nephew steps back thinking he got what he wanted and is dies in mysterious circumstances a few months later. this results in direct control of nuke forces by the CCP for a few decades and was a wake up call for them that they were potentially on the verge of a new warlord era if they didn't crack down and enforce more control

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get the water thing, do they have liquid fueled missiles?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Chinese merchant scams buyer. Tale as old as time.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        how would you even get water in there though? if there isn't a tank meant for holding liquids then where would you put it where it wouldn't leak out?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Missiles that require expensive fuel were filled with inexpensive water. I said merchant but this would actually be military chain of command. An empty missile is suspicious. A missile filled with water is heavy. Someone would do this to skim fuel, either to sell off, or because their logistics are beyond stretched thin and they still want to make metrics. It's communist logistics all over again.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    any military that does not engage in war engages only in money laundering.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    hello, one of the best ways to evaluate your enemy is by watching their car crash complication videos.
    please take a look at the following:

    enjoy

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are traffic lights just for show in china? Half of those accidents would have been avoided if there weren't vehicles crisscrossing through intersections like that.

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >says US intelligence

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia is not going to invade Ukraine, you lying American dogs

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    when I browsed /k/ for the first time in 2006

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The very second that you mentioned that it was Chinese.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Like 6 years ago when Xi started deleting his opponents. The nail in the coffin was 2021 or so when that guy who was his most vocal critic 'retired' and vanished a week later.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No men are perfect. After seeing how flawed the Russians and Chinese are I won’t be suprised when I find out about corruption in the U.S military as well. Maybe it won’t be so bad, but to think the U.S is infallible is foolish.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      In the US the corruption is a company paying a small bribe or giving someone's family member a job in order to get help winning a contract.
      >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darleen_Druyun
      What doesn't happen is having the funding stolen or shitty production being approved. The DoD procurement system is too thorough for that to happen. The less than the best products come from the program offices lowering the milestones in order to get a good rating for the program manager right before he moves jobs.
      All you have to do is do a web search to see corruption in the US. It isn't a mystery. When they get caught they go to prison.

  22. 4 months ago
    RC-135 Rivet Joint

    When I was on a training/test flight and a J-20 illuminated us and then locked on me for more than long enough for my zoomers crew grab a sick profile.
    LOW PROB OF INTERCEPT MY ASS LMAO

    Couldn't believe it lmao at least the Russians know better.

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    This thread again? What the houthis blow out this time?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      your mother's pussy

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was never a question bud

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I Wiki'ed Chinese military equipment after playing C&C: Generals got me interested. I was like, "what a fukken ripoff."

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chinese army may be inexperienced and filled with corrupt cadres, but the industrial capacity is concerning
    US GDP is still slightly higher, but only 15% comes from manufacturing or construction
    almost half of China's GDP is industry, the kind that could be geared for war production

    it's kind of like WWII USA vs. Japan and US today isn't in the position of US back then
    Chinese will eventually learn how to make jets better, cheaper and in far larger volume than USA, just as they learned how to make everything else.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You do know china lies about what counts as industry right?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a moot point because all that industry still needs imported energy to run, despite the massive push for renewables. They're not self-sufficient and they can't get enough from russia (there are no pipelines large enough and the railway network doesn't have the capacity). In a hot war with China, the winning move is to take control of the shipping lanes leading out of the middle east and cut China off from its oil supply, then throw some sub-launched cruise missiles at their reserve tanks.

      Inb4 muh chinese navy - 90% of its tonnage is strictly restricted to operating within spitting distance of a mainland naval base. They can't project force to protect their tankers across the vast oceans.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >In a hot war with China, the winning move is to take control of the shipping lanes
        this is why china's silence surrounding the houthis is a double edged sword, they naturally have no incentive to get involved, but they are legitimizing the threatening of international trade via ocean shipping. if blockades were previously off the table the menu has changed

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Always suspected they were
    but when SteveMRE reviewed two brand new Chinese MRE's and both made him violently sick because they were spoiled it confirmed my belief

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    around the time xi took "taking a page out of mao's book" too literally and mandated his own book of ideology. he isn't mao and he isn't the kim family, he's more like a chinese trump desperately trying to look like anything more than being in the right place at the right time. all of this signals a nation in decline

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he's more like a chinese trump
      That was probably more like Bo Xilai whose purging cleared the way for Xi to reach the top. Xi is still a bureaucrat who rose up within the system (and "selected" from within the ranks of the nomenklatura) rather than trying to make an end-run around it like Bo did which was one source of his downfall.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bo fricked up because he married a crazy woman. In my experience Asian women are batshit.

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think a part of me always knew. On an instinctive level I knew it was impossible for chinks to be a competent and threatening military force. If war actually broke out they'd resort to human wave tactics as has always been their way.

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Now that China is weak and the US and the West is too preoccupied with Ukraine it's time for India to strike and achieve the natural borders of Greater Bharat!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >only half of australia
      cowards, they said all the islands

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always suspected it but between the balloon incident and recent purges I now know it to be true. I look forward to next week's impotent rage in response to Taiwan's elections.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Taiwan's erections
      So crose.

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