Early semi-active missiles were okay. >"BVR" is still close enough that it's realistically going to turn WVR >missiles are not fire and forget, you need to lead them to the target >good tactics and pilot shit can reliably lose lock on incoming missiles >no instant unforeseen death as long as you had an RWR
AMRAAMs normalized fire-and-forget as well as 20+ km engagement ranges, and R-73s normalized high off-boresight targeting.
Never. It never had soul. Not that soul actually means anything in particular anyways, but rest assured whatever nebulous emotional bullshit you have in mind was never actually a reality.
Spamming AMRAAMs over the Horizon and splashing an Entire squadron is absolute SOVL and you can't convince me otherwise.
The beta sopwith fan vs the Chad F-15 Enjoyer.
Why cant we, unironically, have nuclear powered shuttles that use the energy to both reach the upper parts of the stratosphere and shoot down any and all missiles and aircraft with lasers
killing people via the bizarre specifics of nonvisible wavelengths is cool
When the jet engine was invented.
DEWs will put the soul back
DEWs won't be boresight mounted, they'll just be put on modified airliners to ignite fuel tanks from 300km away and you know it.
The shortest distance through the atmosphere will always be "down", they will probably be space-based.
aircraft are obsolete
When BVR came in
>hop in to rusty but thrusty Su-22
>bout to frick up some Iran shmucks
>your plane suddenly explodes for no fricking reason
Early semi-active missiles were okay.
>"BVR" is still close enough that it's realistically going to turn WVR
>missiles are not fire and forget, you need to lead them to the target
>good tactics and pilot shit can reliably lose lock on incoming missiles
>no instant unforeseen death as long as you had an RWR
AMRAAMs normalized fire-and-forget as well as 20+ km engagement ranges, and R-73s normalized high off-boresight targeting.
It's always been somewhat soulless. We've just romanticized the past.
You cannot call WW1 dogfighting soulless by any stretch of imaginatio
>WW1 dogfighting
That only lasted a couple years before it was replaced by more effective tactics. Even in WWI.
Never. It never had soul. Not that soul actually means anything in particular anyways, but rest assured whatever nebulous emotional bullshit you have in mind was never actually a reality.
/thread, /all of these threads, please stop making them you morons.
You see the new Top Gun? Still kept it fun. Had to bring back some guns on guns to keep the soul intact
1982 with the Falklands was the last bastion. WVR dogfights on the deck and at altitude with various aircraft of widely different capabilities.
aerial combat has always been soulless. Man was never meant to fly
Spamming AMRAAMs over the Horizon and splashing an Entire squadron is absolute SOVL and you can't convince me otherwise.
The beta sopwith fan vs the Chad F-15 Enjoyer.
Why cant we, unironically, have nuclear powered shuttles that use the energy to both reach the upper parts of the stratosphere and shoot down any and all missiles and aircraft with lasers
tactically it is yet to lose soul but aesthetically it happened around the time multifunction displays and low vis paint came in.
Right about after MiG-15/F-86