If we’re going to go by CA’s playbook
WA will make all ammo purchases AND reloading components go through FFL as well. So lever gat ammo prices will go up.
yeah i dont get it, we now have the worst gun laws in the country, or will in 2024. Our AWB bans virtually every semi automatic rifle. In order to be legal it needs to not have
-Handguard
-threaded barrel and/or ANY kind of muzzle device
-Pistol grip
-folding or thumbhole stock
And even if you have a fixed magazine, it can only be 10rd or less. The only common semi automatic rifle that will be WA legal is the Garand. and ON TOP of this in 2024 we will require permit to purchase and the permit will require you to pay for education, submit your full medical records so if you ever fell for the mental healthcare trap of any kind you're not buying a gun ever, 2 week plus waiting period. It's truly a mess.
I actually could have been OK with permit to purchase alone because IMO it is too easy to get automatics (particularly cheap handguns). A permit+special use tax for automatic firearms, funds from which would be used to fund efforts to get illegal guns off the streets, tax would reduce number of cheap handguns purchased/in circulation over time. It would have made some sense as a policy, it's annoying and I don't like it but I could see the theory of change. But instead we get a bill designed to deal with weapons used in about 1-2% of gun crimes in the state. And the permit makes no distinction between types of guns.
This legislation wasn't passed in order to make WA a safer place, this has been passed with the sole intent on stimulating black market economy...
Learn your prohibition era history fæm.
>This legislation wasn't passed in order to make WA a safer place, this has been passed with the sole intent on stimulating black market economy...
Anon you thinking wrong.
This legislation is spiteful legislation. IE find things your political opponents like and ban them. >stop liking things I don't like
Sole reason is to hurt your opponent, simple as.
Woohoo, I finally have a seat at the cool kids table and it has sarsaparilla and beef jerky.
>A permit+special use tax for automatic firearms
WA banned autos in the 90's. Even if you have a tax stamp.
>This legislation wasn't passed in order to make WA a safer place, this has been passed with the sole intent on stimulating black market economy...
Anon you thinking wrong.
This legislation is spiteful legislation. IE find things your political opponents like and ban them. >stop liking things I don't like
Sole reason is to hurt your opponent, simple as.
>IE find things your political opponents like and ban them.
They are also concerned that their goonsquad will get Rittenhouse'd if they start their shit again.
I'm not OK with anything given the current environment and bad faith negotiation from democrats. But if we went back to reset gun laws and make reasonable gun laws, requiring increased scrutiny for automatic (both semi and fully) weapons is sensible, while full bans of them aren't. Break actions/single shots shouldn't be regulated and manual actions shouldn't have much regulation either.
With the way the law is worded, isn't the Garand banned as well?
No. It has no assault features except a 'barrel shroud' and you need to have one badboy feature plus detachable magazines. Garand uses a clip which is not a magazine. Then again, I guess they could try to get an AG opinion to redefine a clip as a magazine, not like they're trying to give people options here.
The way this is worded, it DOES ban other WW2/immediate postwar/interwar semi auto designs like the M14, BM59, Hakim, SVT, etc. The one common one that otherwise wouldn't be banned, the SKS, is banned by name.
No increased scrutiny for autos is not warranted moron. That shit is unconstitutional and just a foot in the door for more gun control. There is no scenario where your perfect 'reasonsble' laws get set up and then are never made worse. Because the people that actually pass gun control are liars and want complete disarmament. 'reasonable' gun control is a myth for useful idiots like you to slurp up so they can push the even worse shit that they actually want.
>make reasonable gun laws
homosexual, keeping Americans from easily owning semi autos isn't reasonable at all. If you can't buy a semi auto on a whim in 10 minutes at the store, it's a tyrannical law.
>(E) A fixed magazine in excess of seven rounds; or
Good luck trying to argue the internal magazine on the Garand isn't actually an internal magazine (you will lose)
1 year ago
Anonymous
But the broomhandle isn’t targeted, right?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>not a rifle
1 year ago
Anonymous
What if they take me seriously and ban it for being an assault pistol/carbine
1 year ago
Anonymous
>citing the text from the shotgun section when discussing rifles
Frick off moron. The limit for rifles is 10 just like every other AWB that has passed outside of that one in New York.
1 year ago
Anonymous
SHUT UP Black person!!! I READ IT AND IT SAYS WHAT I READ IT DOES
DUMB Black person CAN’T READ
DEMONCRATS WANNA BAN ALL THE GUNS AND STOP MASS SHOOTINGS, BUT THAT’S JUST MY CONSTITUTION RIGHTS!!!!!!!
>Rifles are only 2% of murders
People should stop citing this. It makes guns rights activists look disingenuous or uniformed. While this is true based on how the data is reported, over 42% of gun murders don't have any weapon type reported. Assuming none of those are rifles is baseless. We should assume that rifles are as represented as they are in the murders that do have a type. Also, PCCs end up in "Other Guns," being the most common type there (shotguns have their own category).
That makes rifles and pistol caliber carbines more like 8-9% of homicides, which is still low.
The problem is that this missed what reformers and voter have cared about, which is spree killings. Most murders are domestics or gang bangers and people don't see themselves or kids being involved in that segment. A classroom of children getting killed is more salient. Also, with domestics, people rightly assume many of the murders might occur anyhow with other weapons.
What IS a good argument is that crime is way, way down over the past thirty years, even with the pandemic bump. This isn't true everywhere, but it is true most places. Which begs the question "why do we need new laws when crime has plunged in places that haven't done new gun control or even made it easier to get weapons?"
Vermont, Idaho, and New Hampshire have the lowest murder rates and aren't particularly strict on firearms. Washington already is a very low murder rate state (Arkansas, Missouri, Mississippi, and Louisiana are legit worse than Uganda and Zimbabwe and twice NYC's surge rate in 2020 lol, frick hell, but that only proves it comes down to other factors)
You sir may possibly reside here, but you do not live presently. Washington's murder rate has raised nearly 55% since 2015 and has been escalating as middle, working, and lower class gets priced out by the tech bros gentrifying shit.
Desperate times, angry people, PNW indifference. Let the peasants fight each other and harvest the flesh off the carcass bones. Rip away their potentional to stand their ground and ignore their pleas.
>over 42% of gun murders don't have any weapon type reported. Assuming none of those are rifles is baseless
The only informed assumption you can make about the remaining 42% of gun murders is that they’d mirror the proportions of the other 58%. You have no reason to think pistols or rifles are over or under respresented and somehow correlated with whether or not a murder is solved.
>Vermont, Idaho, and New Hampshire have the lowest murder rates
Picrel, lol. And Mississippi and Louisiana are 2nd and 3rd, right behind DC, in blackest states of the Union.
Has a barrel shroud you chud. Look at how the law defines it. If this gun had a fixed mag it would be legal but it does not. They basically designed this ban to be a "all semi automatic rifles that are not a garand" ban.
>I actually could have been OK with permit to purchase alone because IMO it is too easy to get automatics (particularly cheap handguns). A permit+special use tax for automatic firearms, funds from which would be used to fund efforts to get illegal guns off the streets, tax would reduce number of cheap handguns purchased/in circulation over time. It would have made some sense as a policy, it's annoying and I don't like it but I could see the theory of change.
You unironically deserve this. I hope a Black person breaks into your house you subhuman piece of shit.
WA bans any semi auto if they have a handguard that covers the top of the barrel. Name some semi autos that don't have a pistol grip or handguard, because all I can think of is the BAR (the hunting one, not the MG) and the remington model 8
I'm not. I own ARs and live in a state with no rifle hunting
1 year ago
Anonymous
Hunting laws are hell, if you have a guy who makes over a million dollars a year living in your state odds are that you aren't allowed to hunt without 4 billion requirements and a window of season that perfectly matches his blackbook's schedule.
You homosexuals deserve this. You did absolutely nothing to make your legislators lives absolute fricking hell. They have homes. They have kids. They have cars. They shop at stores for groceries. They get their medicine at pharmacies.
But you know, doing anything means your a fed. So with that being said, you homosexuals deserve to suffer what you accept.
Egg the homes. Shit on their front door steps.
Slash the tires. Graffiti over government buildings saying something like politician x is wiener-sucking dictator. Idk. Something to say it's a stupid thing.
Tell ya what, when an awb comes to your state you can throw away your life doing dumb shit to prove just how immature gun owners really are. Im good on all that.
You people are hilarious. Everything you value will be stripped from you and you will win nothing and own nothing amd I'll dox you so I can come lol at you again and again for winning nothing.
>He’s literally talking about murdering children
Show me the part where he says "murder their children".
>He didn't even imply violence. >They have kids.
What do you feel he was implying here then moron?
They are part of a wider community and have routines in the world. People have successfully harassed politicians into changing their vote on something before.
You could easily just pay other kids to bully or even just tell them not to play with someone because their dad is a wienersucker. Why do you frick wits always go to the most extreme shot possible? Egg their house, key their car, ostracize their children. You forget our whole society is pussy, to include the scumbag politicians.
[...] >attack the politicians for being corrupt
You dumb right-wing MAGAtards tried this on January 6, and achieved nothing. Less than nothing. You were baited into ""attacking"" exactly on your opponent's terms. Same thing will happen this time. If one of those pro-dystopia politicians suddenly gets sniped, that will be enough to sway the sheep's opinion into Australia-tier bans. Then, the pro-gun activists would have no legal recourse. They would have to fight there and then. And all for the life of a replaceable pawn.
[...] >I am now higher on the priority monitoring list
What does that even mean? How does that influence my life at all whatsoever? I don't want a clearance. I know how to hide from glowies online if I wanted because I can hack. I suppose the glowies would know this, but they can't do anything about that. They're not able to track down my TOR node on a Pi that I left in Mexico City last time I visited. Additionally, if I'm on a list then so is literally everyone here including (you). I'm relatively normal -- I'm straight, employed, educated, and not a weeb. Basically, you're just a Nazi so you think government knows everything. I've openly challenged the FBI to a fight to the death out here before. Bring it the frick on.
Can't you glow frickers just go piss off already? Your constant calls for terrorism and other asinine actions is getting annoying.
No one said to be violent. Leftist politicians call for their supporters to go harass conservative politicians at their homes and in public while they shop for groceries.
Their supporters did and do this constantly. Do they get arrested for it? Nope.
The problem is lots of average people see aboetion as an issue that affects them, there are fewer gun owners
This is by the an incentive to convert as many groups to 2a as possible
It’s pointing out how you generate backlash: Get as many people invested in guns as possible and convince them they’re losing their rights. The more that happens the more illegal laws like this get punished. Basically make the hobby newbie friendly
1 year ago
Anonymous
minorities and lgbt are arming themselves everywhere, and rich white Democrats don't understand why.
Now you should try viewing them as people, anon.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I hate liberal elitists but not lgbt or minorities
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's essentially what guntubers do and /k/ hates them despite a single guntuber getting more people in to firearms than this entire board combined.
1 year ago
Anonymous
We’ll time to hope thumb can charm suburban moms into realizing they need a gun
California dems are shidding their pants in the wake of the Bruen decision. I just read an article a while back about how Gavin Newsom was really concerned the AWB and mag limit laws are going to get btfo
>Bruen is going to change everything! Just 2 more weeks! Even though it hasn't changed a single thing since it was ruled.
Going to be funny ten years down the line when even more states have AWB's and people are still going to be spouting this moronic Bruen trust the plan shit.
At this point, trusting any government entity bemarks a fool. They want nothing more than your firearms, and it's for a good reason. The US government is still unsure what would happen if the people rose up. The people aren't defeated yet.
Americans fear the collapse of their own government more than anything. They never had the balls to start a war. America isn't exactly known for winning wars this century.
>attack the politicians for being corrupt
You dumb right-wing MAGAtards tried this on January 6, and achieved nothing. Less than nothing. You were baited into ""attacking"" exactly on your opponent's terms. Same thing will happen this time. If one of those pro-dystopia politicians suddenly gets sniped, that will be enough to sway the sheep's opinion into Australia-tier bans. Then, the pro-gun activists would have no legal recourse. They would have to fight there and then. And all for the life of a replaceable pawn.
Just because they didn't do anything doesn't mean you haven't been upped on their priority monitoring.
>I am now higher on the priority monitoring list
What does that even mean? How does that influence my life at all whatsoever? I don't want a clearance. I know how to hide from glowies online if I wanted because I can hack. I suppose the glowies would know this, but they can't do anything about that. They're not able to track down my TOR node on a Pi that I left in Mexico City last time I visited. Additionally, if I'm on a list then so is literally everyone here including (you). I'm relatively normal -- I'm straight, employed, educated, and not a weeb. Basically, you're just a Nazi so you think government knows everything. I've openly challenged the FBI to a fight to the death out here before. Bring it the frick on.
It is a catch-22 situation, politically it's pretty evident that unless something like 90% of the population were suddenly pro-gun then gun rights are basically going to become worse and worse and nothing can really change it. But on the other hand any serious violent or aggressive attempt to improve the situation would immediately wipe away whatever gun rights were left not even a day later, so it's kind of fricked any way you go.
>we need 90% of the population on our side
Wrong, we just need states that have populations (and cops and politicians) who are unwilling to budge another inch on gun rights.
>gun rights will keep getting worse
Mostly due to overpopulation. 100 years ago, you used to be free to go out in the woods and shoot your revolver. Now, there's barely any such woods left. And they're all private property. More humans means shooting recreationally becomes gayer, as shooting requires a lot of open space.
>catch 22 between waiting and fighting now
If we (the governed) stop cooperating with the system, it's possible to dismantle the whole system without violence. For example, securing free communications like the ones we are having right now. The government cannot rule without the consent of the governed. The best possible outcome at this point is to collapse the system, because any scenario where the system (as it is) survives is a dystopia. They give you paper instead of gold.
>The government cannot rule without the consent of the governed.
You're not "the governed", just a fraction of them, and the majority is slowly losing their patience with you because you keep acting like irresponsible entitled buttholes unwilling to deal with the unavoidable problems of treating guns like toys.
given recent polling that fraction is growing and urban liberals attempting to impose urban solutions to urban shithole problems on unrelated rural areas are only going to accelerate that
either the party going after guns realizes that it's a losing issue for gaining votes and pivots to an actual leftist stance on armed workers and anti-tyranny or they'll keep hyping up vocally anti-gun urban liberal darlings and suffering embarrassing electoral defeats. the more people are aware of just how obscenely the NFA has been contorted by the ATF and state governments to extrajudicially override the second amendment, the stronger and likelier pushback becomes
i can summarize the actual leftist stance on guns with this: expect the fascists to be armed and respond accordingly. urban liberals just wish they lived in a world where guns didn't exist, because they perceive the noise of a woodpecker or a backfiring car as a threat to their sheltered lives, and in true urban liberal fashion they must make it everyone's problem by invoking their (dubiously meaningful and recently in decline) majority while oblivious to its tyranny
mass shootings are a symptom of capitalism in decay coupled with capitalist media profiteering on tragedy while (unwittingly... i hope) encouraging copycats. it's not the candle seller's fault the streets are slicked with gasoline by people who want to sell pictures of bonfires and nobody pays the fire department
1 year ago
Anonymous
I agree with everything but the last paragraph. Mass shootings aren't really capitalism in decay, they're society in decay. Which society? Since the East bans guns, it's mostly a Western issue. In general, mass shootings have to do with the nature of humanity. Psychology can come close to understanding them. I've read shooter manifestos, here's what I think: >expanding population == more psychos >more crowded places == more opportunities for psychos with powerful weapons >seemingly benign psychos can turn evil randomly >violent videogames including mass shooting simulators in mainstream games like CoD >violent edgy movies like DC and Marvel and more >violent music etc >like-'minded' people on the internet, ready to cheer for any evil action and offer guidance >how, where, and by whom the child is raised is the most important thing >meanwhile the powerful propaganda machine is carefully designed in the West >the child is exposed to State propaganda from the age of 5 >from that age, the child starts to learn an alternate form of history >society is cruel in both China and America where homosexuals will rat you out to authority for anything, starting very young >cameras watching 24/7 like YOU're the villain >deteriorating, polluted nature >nihilistic sex in front of cameras >technology combined with propaganda and the cruelty of the human beings in society is more than enough to snap minds >not everyone with a snapped mind is identified or given a proper outlet >not everyone with a snapped mind can balance themselves
1 year ago
Anonymous
>given recent polling
Could you link to it?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I agree with that. Everyone, but especially liberals are guilty of wanting to govern cities and rural areas in the same way.
1 year ago
Anonymous
nta but the recent electoral performance of vocally anti-gun local candidates that the terminally online urban liberal from out of state adores has been dismal. motherfrickers were too busy jacking each other off from outside the constituency holding the election to realize they may have killed their chances in Texas for the next decade.
if they would just stop making possession a pre-crime like the fricking drug war they hate so much and admit that one of the safest places for these guns to be is in the collection of a responsible owner, they'd probably do a lot better
I agree with everything but the last paragraph. Mass shootings aren't really capitalism in decay, they're society in decay. Which society? Since the East bans guns, it's mostly a Western issue. In general, mass shootings have to do with the nature of humanity. Psychology can come close to understanding them. I've read shooter manifestos, here's what I think: >expanding population == more psychos >more crowded places == more opportunities for psychos with powerful weapons >seemingly benign psychos can turn evil randomly >violent videogames including mass shooting simulators in mainstream games like CoD >violent edgy movies like DC and Marvel and more >violent music etc >like-'minded' people on the internet, ready to cheer for any evil action and offer guidance >how, where, and by whom the child is raised is the most important thing >meanwhile the powerful propaganda machine is carefully designed in the West >the child is exposed to State propaganda from the age of 5 >from that age, the child starts to learn an alternate form of history >society is cruel in both China and America where homosexuals will rat you out to authority for anything, starting very young >cameras watching 24/7 like YOU're the villain >deteriorating, polluted nature >nihilistic sex in front of cameras >technology combined with propaganda and the cruelty of the human beings in society is more than enough to snap minds >not everyone with a snapped mind is identified or given a proper outlet >not everyone with a snapped mind can balance themselves
nah, the cultural decay bullshit is one (or both) of two things:
1) glowies inciting shit to generate mass shootings so they can disarm the population
2) people blaming the miserable existence they have in society on a deviation from some imaginary cultural ideal; generally you can trace the misery back to neoliberal destruction of public safety nets, which is probably why that anon blamed capitalism
keep in mind America destroyed its own asylum system and eradicated orphanages in favor of offloading all that responsibility on private entities or random citizens (or prisons... or private prisons). the guns don't really cause the issue, they just make the victims more capable when they snap
>You dumb right-wing MAGAtards tried this on January 6, and achieved nothing. Less than nothing.
they would go on to win the entire lower chamber on a platform of denying the 2020 election, did you press pause on your intake of information back then or something?
>le antique curio not practical tool
There's nothing good about what's being pushed in this country and internationally after the last century of hundreds of millions of murders by rogue (overwhelmingly communist) governments. History and human nature doesn't change, evolve, or 'progress' that much.
To be fair, there are nearly as many Red Chinese there as Vancouver. A lot of this is railroading shit with sheer force of funny money while a disengaged public doesn't assert itself, being so jaded.
Feet too
But at least they’re not gonna take these away
yeah i dont get it, we now have the worst gun laws in the country, or will in 2024. Our AWB bans virtually every semi automatic rifle. In order to be legal it needs to not have
-Handguard
-threaded barrel and/or ANY kind of muzzle device
-Pistol grip
-folding or thumbhole stock
And even if you have a fixed magazine, it can only be 10rd or less. The only common semi automatic rifle that will be WA legal is the Garand. and ON TOP of this in 2024 we will require permit to purchase and the permit will require you to pay for education, submit your full medical records so if you ever fell for the mental healthcare trap of any kind you're not buying a gun ever, 2 week plus waiting period. It's truly a mess.
I actually could have been OK with permit to purchase alone because IMO it is too easy to get automatics (particularly cheap handguns). A permit+special use tax for automatic firearms, funds from which would be used to fund efforts to get illegal guns off the streets, tax would reduce number of cheap handguns purchased/in circulation over time. It would have made some sense as a policy, it's annoying and I don't like it but I could see the theory of change. But instead we get a bill designed to deal with weapons used in about 1-2% of gun crimes in the state. And the permit makes no distinction between types of guns.
Can’t FFL03 let you recieve old guns directly? They’re pretty much what’s left so no harm in getting one
>iphone filename basedjack
jesus are you actually from reddit?
do not respond to it, he's actually mentally ill, has zero social constacts and whenever he does post on PrepHole his autism makes him hyperfocus on a thread and respond to every (you) over the course of hours. just let him get bored.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Literally why do you care?
1 year ago
Anonymous
He's just your typical shitposter, I've seen him in action and there's no way he isn't trying to be as annoying and moronic as possible for attention. I do agree it's best he be ignored though.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It’s not even really my fault. I hadn’t caused any trouble here and all of a sudden a lot of anons run in to b***h. Ofc it got derailed.
You will be like one of those buttholes from Red Dead Redemption 1 online that played all day everyday and unlocked the Mauser Pistol. And all they would do is just spray a pray machine gun fire against noobs with single action revolvers.
I hope the FBI breaks Hoplopofeils arms during his arrest because he's got hundreds of videos shoulder a pistol brace. Motherfricker should've kept his mouth shut when that homosexual cokeman starting fudding all over the place about CRS and how it's important to be a good cuck to the government.
>when that homosexual cokeman starting fudding all over the place about CRS and how it's important to be a good cuck to the government.
When did cokeman say anything like that? All I remember him saying is that people should stop posting evidence of themselves doing things that the government considers to be crimes online.
>I'M NOT GONNA WEAR BODY ARMOR, BODY ARMOR IS LARP! LARP! >IF YOU DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL YOU *SHOULD* GET PICKED UP BY THE FEDS CAUSE I'M A GOOD BOI >I'M NOT A RACIST EVEN THOUGH I SAY Black person AND homosexual TO INTRODUCE MY VIDEOS >HE DESERVES WHAT HE GOT EVEN THOUGH THE MACHINE GUN IN QUESTION DID NOT WORK AT ALL AND THEY COULDN'T GET IT TO WORK
idk it was literally in his 5 minute shit take video he posted? Idc though homosexual because clearly you're as mentally incompetent as he is.
I also shouldn't be shocked that TFBtv's boy is as snobbish and government cucked as he is considering he's friends with karl the kuck cum drinker.
>idk it was literally in his 5 minute shit take video he posted?
Is this a recent one? I don't exactly keep on top of everything happening with people's favorite ecelebs here.
If the idea is to make non compliant ARs and put them away in a safe forever and keep your mouth shut, can’t you still do that? Or did Washington also ban AR lowers? Surely there is some perfectly legal AR configuration that allows for lawful use of a lower receiver.
Dude. Between last years mag ban and now this shit. I’d say it cost me upwards of $10k. Rounded out my AR collection,Aug, AK(s) and MP5
It’s shit I had planned on buying but not so close together. Anyhow im done. Not buying anything. Next step is pay cash for the second house and leave landlet status behind.
The way to make something that isn’t banned would be to take a garand and convert it to stripper clips somehow and give it an extended fixed magazine plate with a 10 round capacity like an SKS (but not an SKS because that is banned for some reason). But that would still only give you +2 rounds.
why is there no affordable rifle with a non-pistol grip (what's the actual name for that?), a fixed mag, and feeds from stripper clips? Or not even a fixed mag but can at least feed from clips?
The mini-14 can be fed via clips if you get an aftermarket piece for it but the piece of shit is less accurate than an AR (which is not a huge deal) but costs over $1000 when you can get an AR for 500.
I guess my question is why is the mini14 so expensive? Is it not possible to put out a wooden stocked basic ass rifle for like $400?
>I guess my question is why is the mini14 so expensive?
Because cheap ARs have basically destroyed the market for anything else. Mini-14s used to be cheaper before ARs hit rock bottom prices.
This is also why the solution will be bastardized ARs with fitelite scr stocks and fixed magazines. The AR market today is such a vast and all encompassing thing that if you want an AR with no pistol grip, a fixed mag, no barrel “shroud” (whatever the frick that is), no flash hider, fixed magazine under 10 rounds, that b***h will exist and everyone trying to ban the AR-15 can seethe.
1 year ago
Anonymous
AR-15 and all derivatives are banned by name in Washington
1 year ago
Anonymous
>all derivatives are banned by name
The derivatives haven't been named yet. Check next month's catalog.
So I'm reading the bill here. And am curious about this situation.
>Use 3D printer to print AR-15 lower >Build my gun >Get questioned about it >tell them I printed the AR-15 lower before the bill went into effect
Like, there's not really any way for them to know whether or not that's true, right? Because as it is now as I understand it, there was never a requirement for registering self made firearms.
At the very least, creative firearms will probably end up coming out of this. I think printing an FGC-9 will still be legal no matter what.
Nobody should have to be forced to engage in my cowboy larping; I think it's about time I leave this state, for now my birth-state's (California) influence is becoming very apparent now.
first it will be high power sniper style rifles, bolt action rifles are weapons of war, pump action shotguns are also used in war too. No weapons of war on our streets!!
then it will be cowboy style weapons, no lever actions, revolvers or break actions!
finally pirate style weapons, no deadly black powder, which is also detrimental to air quality!
If you gays weren't so pro-police, you would still have rights. morons, the right wingers originally empowered the government to do this shit in the name of stopping terrorism. Americ**ts deserve total NWO enslavement.
Spain has elected social democrat government after social democrat government, they'll have a massive African population within two decades at the most.
You have something that the og cyberpunk authors would have considered a supercomputer in your pocket. Corporations own politicians and don't even pretend they don't anymore. Wars are fought with flying VR robots. And we fricked the environment.
We're already in the cyberpunk future.
Not after the mass shootings that will happen this year right before the 2024 elections. Look at Australia.
The FBI is now looking for you.
Not him, but no they're not. I've posted edgier shit about slaying pigs. Anons reported me but I went and bought guns the next week. You're an auth fasc moron with control power delusions who thinks government is everywhere so you want to join them deep inside, because your life lacks meaning and purpose. Those are the actual CIA's words on people like you. >people with authoritarian personalities will always overestimate the power of authority
Schizos like you never realize that if they're watching everybody then they're watching nobody. The fact of the matter is the feds have their hands so full of stuff they aren't watching most people on basketweaving forums.
RedHats are fricking morons. The Feds are still legally tracking and sentencing people who were there on Jan 6. >Sun Tzu clearly said: >do NOT make an idle threat >what did the morons do on January 6th?
Schizos like you never realize that if they're watching everybody then they're watching nobody. The fact of the matter is the feds have their hands so full of stuff they aren't watching most people on basketweaving forums.
Checked. At most, what we're talking about gets fed to some kind of AI analytics machine.
>FBI is tracking me right now
I have a 10k host botnet so I have 10k IP's. I'm unironically smarter (and stronger) than they are. They're dumb fat boomers.
1 year ago
Anonymous
democrats lost the popular vote later because of that event
1 year ago
Anonymous
no they didn't
1 year ago
Anonymous
54 is more than 51
whole percentage points more
1 year ago
Anonymous
why are you pretending the house vote is the same as the presidential popular vote? a bit dishonest no?
1 year ago
Anonymous
54 is more than 51
whole percentage points more
And then the GOP had a net loss of 4 state houses, 2 govs, and a senate seat
The third worst challenger performance in a mid term in the last 100 years
States can just keep challenging it over and over while keeping their current AWBs up anyways, so expecting the supreme court to do anything isn't a good idea regardless.
There's a half dozen SCOTUS rulilings that nullify it and Benitez is likely to drop his ruling regarding CA's AWB that impacts the entire 9th District, which puts WA's ban directly at odds. There will be resistance to the Benitez ruling, which will mean the case has no other venue than to go to SCOTUS.
There's no incentive for Benitez to drop his ruling any time soon though, going at a snails pace is unfortunately the best move when it comes to a career in politics, so it might take years or even a decade before a ruling drops.
he's a federal senior judge. his career is already set. he's in that seat for life. that's why he doesn't give a frick about going against CA gun control laws.
Important to not that the Washington ban is on new sales. Existing guns are grandfathered in to t their current owners. Although I heard if an owner dies, no one can inherit the assault weapon. Looks like they are trying to virtually eliminate them from the state permanently over the next however-many decades.
I already realized this a few years ago. I have all the "tactical" stuff I need and I'm bored of it, I don't feel like I'm cucking out by leaving that stuff in my safe and taking my revolver/tikka/lever action to the range and smiling the whole time. They will never even think about taking my cowboy guns. No magazines to buy, no state cuckery on buying "scary" ammo at big box stores, I just play by the rules and don't think about whatever fake and gay legislation is coming down the pipe. Clears my head to not worry about my guns getting me put on a list.
The only thing that saved us was the fact that the states were geographically red with a few blue enclaves, and that we have legislative sessions rather than a year-round legislature. The suburbs of Portland and Seattle were in play up until 2018, the AWB was just virtue signaling because the senators/reps from those districts were afraid they'd lose their seats if they voted for it. They had a few good elections due to TDS and abortion rulings in 2018/2020/2022 and felt invincible.
It doesn't help that both OR/WA's republican parties are fricking moronic. Problem is the easterners get to pick the statewide candidates and they pick people who can't win a statewide election. We're not getting Dan Evans or Dixie Lee Ray, we're getting morons like Loren Culp who make Inslee look intelligent.
It's not Washington anymore...silly
It's shultzheimerbergsteinville
There's a statue of Jorge shultzheimerbergstein in London and I'm heading there in a couple of weeks to put a plaque over the name that says
'beto shultzheimerbergstein'
Washington doesn't have the impact you think it has. The largest impact it'll have is the bit of sympathetic feelings they get (which I don't really think will be all that much). I know some people out there who have been active in fighting against that kind of stuff for a long time, so they get some of my sympathy, but that's a part of a drop in a large pool.
So can we conclusively say that WA and CA are completely lost? We can count on their police and N-guard to be Communist in the American civil war between Commies and Fascists?
More and more demographics that are traditionally dem are getting into guns so bans are a dangerous game. The moment the GOP culture war collapses (probably soon given the crushing in Wisconsin) the sooner people aren’t blindly voting dem because Roe and other scare issues. Expect the libertarians to become bigger after 24
They can sell outside of state. I'm pretty sure they're done though. IIRC a state senator from Tacoma tried to get them an exemption to produce for out of state export but couldn't get even that through the house. They'll be moving out of state or going out of business which is a blow to anyone who used their stuff as OEM.
>Crank out and distribute SMGs to homeless, blacks, and mexicans for free in Minecraft. >Pull the fire alarm in tech companies, and then firebomb 'em in Minecraft Seattle. >Smear shit on Jay's car and house in Minecraft.
The legislature finds that the gun industry has specifically marketed these weapons as "tactical," "hyper masculine," and "military style” in manner that overtly appeals to troubled young men intent on becoming the next mass shooter. The legislature intends to limit the prospective sale of assault weapons, while allowing existing legal owners to retain the assault weapons they currently own.
I love how morons will still claim Califonria has the worst gun laws when shit like WA and New Jersey are significnatly worse. At least I can own a Mini-14 here. Stay seething flyovertards.
If we’re going to go by CA’s playbook
WA will make all ammo purchases AND reloading components go through FFL as well. So lever gat ammo prices will go up.
If it reverses how much lever actions have gone up in price, I'd be happy.
>WA will make all ammo purchases AND reloading components go through FFL
California didn't make all reloading components go through an FFL though.
>If it reverses how much lever actions have gone up in price
LOL
LMAO
>the WA gay copes to deny he's worse off than CA
yeah i dont get it, we now have the worst gun laws in the country, or will in 2024. Our AWB bans virtually every semi automatic rifle. In order to be legal it needs to not have
-Handguard
-threaded barrel and/or ANY kind of muzzle device
-Pistol grip
-folding or thumbhole stock
And even if you have a fixed magazine, it can only be 10rd or less. The only common semi automatic rifle that will be WA legal is the Garand. and ON TOP of this in 2024 we will require permit to purchase and the permit will require you to pay for education, submit your full medical records so if you ever fell for the mental healthcare trap of any kind you're not buying a gun ever, 2 week plus waiting period. It's truly a mess.
I actually could have been OK with permit to purchase alone because IMO it is too easy to get automatics (particularly cheap handguns). A permit+special use tax for automatic firearms, funds from which would be used to fund efforts to get illegal guns off the streets, tax would reduce number of cheap handguns purchased/in circulation over time. It would have made some sense as a policy, it's annoying and I don't like it but I could see the theory of change. But instead we get a bill designed to deal with weapons used in about 1-2% of gun crimes in the state. And the permit makes no distinction between types of guns.
This legislation wasn't passed in order to make WA a safer place, this has been passed with the sole intent on stimulating black market economy...
Learn your prohibition era history fæm.
>Tacticool remlin
>Picrel mfw
>This legislation wasn't passed in order to make WA a safer place, this has been passed with the sole intent on stimulating black market economy...
Anon you thinking wrong.
This legislation is spiteful legislation. IE find things your political opponents like and ban them.
>stop liking things I don't like
Sole reason is to hurt your opponent, simple as.
Aren't automatics federally banned? Or are you talking about autoloaders in general?
Woohoo, I finally have a seat at the cool kids table and it has sarsaparilla and beef jerky.
>A permit+special use tax for automatic firearms
WA banned autos in the 90's. Even if you have a tax stamp.
>IE find things your political opponents like and ban them.
They are also concerned that their goonsquad will get Rittenhouse'd if they start their shit again.
With the way the law is worded, isn't the Garand banned as well?
Oh my god you are such a homosexual. Being okay with any of this is how you get all of it you dumb Black person.
I'm not OK with anything given the current environment and bad faith negotiation from democrats. But if we went back to reset gun laws and make reasonable gun laws, requiring increased scrutiny for automatic (both semi and fully) weapons is sensible, while full bans of them aren't. Break actions/single shots shouldn't be regulated and manual actions shouldn't have much regulation either.
No. It has no assault features except a 'barrel shroud' and you need to have one badboy feature plus detachable magazines. Garand uses a clip which is not a magazine. Then again, I guess they could try to get an AG opinion to redefine a clip as a magazine, not like they're trying to give people options here.
The way this is worded, it DOES ban other WW2/immediate postwar/interwar semi auto designs like the M14, BM59, Hakim, SVT, etc. The one common one that otherwise wouldn't be banned, the SKS, is banned by name.
No increased scrutiny for autos is not warranted moron. That shit is unconstitutional and just a foot in the door for more gun control. There is no scenario where your perfect 'reasonsble' laws get set up and then are never made worse. Because the people that actually pass gun control are liars and want complete disarmament. 'reasonable' gun control is a myth for useful idiots like you to slurp up so they can push the even worse shit that they actually want.
>make reasonable gun laws
homosexual, keeping Americans from easily owning semi autos isn't reasonable at all. If you can't buy a semi auto on a whim in 10 minutes at the store, it's a tyrannical law.
Yes
>(E) A fixed magazine in excess of seven rounds; or
Good luck trying to argue the internal magazine on the Garand isn't actually an internal magazine (you will lose)
But the broomhandle isn’t targeted, right?
>not a rifle
What if they take me seriously and ban it for being an assault pistol/carbine
>citing the text from the shotgun section when discussing rifles
Frick off moron. The limit for rifles is 10 just like every other AWB that has passed outside of that one in New York.
SHUT UP Black person!!! I READ IT AND IT SAYS WHAT I READ IT DOES
DUMB Black person CAN’T READ
DEMONCRATS WANNA BAN ALL THE GUNS AND STOP MASS SHOOTINGS, BUT THAT’S JUST MY CONSTITUTION RIGHTS!!!!!!!
>I actually could have been OK with permit to purchase alone because IMO it is too easy to get automatics
I see why it passed.
>Rifles are only 2% of murders
People should stop citing this. It makes guns rights activists look disingenuous or uniformed. While this is true based on how the data is reported, over 42% of gun murders don't have any weapon type reported. Assuming none of those are rifles is baseless. We should assume that rifles are as represented as they are in the murders that do have a type. Also, PCCs end up in "Other Guns," being the most common type there (shotguns have their own category).
That makes rifles and pistol caliber carbines more like 8-9% of homicides, which is still low.
The problem is that this missed what reformers and voter have cared about, which is spree killings. Most murders are domestics or gang bangers and people don't see themselves or kids being involved in that segment. A classroom of children getting killed is more salient. Also, with domestics, people rightly assume many of the murders might occur anyhow with other weapons.
What IS a good argument is that crime is way, way down over the past thirty years, even with the pandemic bump. This isn't true everywhere, but it is true most places. Which begs the question "why do we need new laws when crime has plunged in places that haven't done new gun control or even made it easier to get weapons?"
Vermont, Idaho, and New Hampshire have the lowest murder rates and aren't particularly strict on firearms. Washington already is a very low murder rate state (Arkansas, Missouri, Mississippi, and Louisiana are legit worse than Uganda and Zimbabwe and twice NYC's surge rate in 2020 lol, frick hell, but that only proves it comes down to other factors)
>even with the pandemic bump
This is just not true at all, murders are at or in excess of 90's highs
Source?
You sir may possibly reside here, but you do not live presently. Washington's murder rate has raised nearly 55% since 2015 and has been escalating as middle, working, and lower class gets priced out by the tech bros gentrifying shit.
Desperate times, angry people, PNW indifference. Let the peasants fight each other and harvest the flesh off the carcass bones. Rip away their potentional to stand their ground and ignore their pleas.
Source?
What specific demographics are doing the deeds? Gentrification doesn't cause crime, it improves former hellholes.
>over 42% of gun murders don't have any weapon type reported. Assuming none of those are rifles is baseless
The only informed assumption you can make about the remaining 42% of gun murders is that they’d mirror the proportions of the other 58%. You have no reason to think pistols or rifles are over or under respresented and somehow correlated with whether or not a murder is solved.
>Vermont, Idaho, and New Hampshire have the lowest murder rates
Picrel, lol. And Mississippi and Louisiana are 2nd and 3rd, right behind DC, in blackest states of the Union.
Picrel is not banned
No barrel shroud or threaded barrel
KelTec chads stay winning
Doesn't the detachable magazine and handguard make it banned?
it looks scary and will probably be used in a shooting at some point so yes it's effectively banned. Right now? Shadowbanned.
Has a barrel shroud you chud. Look at how the law defines it. If this gun had a fixed mag it would be legal but it does not. They basically designed this ban to be a "all semi automatic rifles that are not a garand" ban.
I can guarantee you they will prosecute someone for selling a garand within the next 6 months
USA is dead. I'm going somewhere white.
so somebody can make a new plastic shell and woodscrew kit that doesn't have the barrel shroud, and then you can pin or fix your magazine in place.
>Handguard
My rifle doesn't have a handguard or barrel shroud. It does have an operating rod shroud.
Am I OK?
>I actually could have been OK with permit to purchase alone because IMO it is too easy to get automatics (particularly cheap handguns). A permit+special use tax for automatic firearms, funds from which would be used to fund efforts to get illegal guns off the streets, tax would reduce number of cheap handguns purchased/in circulation over time. It would have made some sense as a policy, it's annoying and I don't like it but I could see the theory of change.
You unironically deserve this. I hope a Black person breaks into your house you subhuman piece of shit.
Jfl, they banned handguards too. Well, welcome to the club of neutered and impossible to use rifles bro. T. Californian.
my guy, WAs gun laws are now way worse than CAs.
Reno is just 3 hours away.
What is left to get at this point? Just manual actions? Are there any decent semi auto rifles that weren't banned by name?
WA bans any semi auto if they have a handguard that covers the top of the barrel. Name some semi autos that don't have a pistol grip or handguard, because all I can think of is the BAR (the hunting one, not the MG) and the remington model 8
Doesn't the BAR's handguard not cover the top of its barrel? Wouldn't a 10 round mag semi auto only BAR be legal if that was the case?
I was talking about this. Not sure if the WA law has language about semi auto clones of full autos. Also aren't BAR clones like $3,000?
I know about that BAR too, but wouldn't it still apply? And yeah, they can be more expensive than they'd really be worth.
What a gorgeous firearm! Thank you anon, I hadn't heard of it before. Out of curiosity, why are you buying one?
I'm not. I own ARs and live in a state with no rifle hunting
Hunting laws are hell, if you have a guy who makes over a million dollars a year living in your state odds are that you aren't allowed to hunt without 4 billion requirements and a window of season that perfectly matches his blackbook's schedule.
Gun laws only real if dont have friends
You homosexuals deserve this. You did absolutely nothing to make your legislators lives absolute fricking hell. They have homes. They have kids. They have cars. They shop at stores for groceries. They get their medicine at pharmacies.
But you know, doing anything means your a fed. So with that being said, you homosexuals deserve to suffer what you accept.
>please americans, do terrorism!
t. mystery homie
It doesn't have to be violent
Egg the homes. Shit on their front door steps.
Slash the tires. Graffiti over government buildings saying something like politician x is wiener-sucking dictator. Idk. Something to say it's a stupid thing.
feel free to do this yourself.
I don't live there. Speaking of which, did anyone even write to the politicians about it?
Tell ya what, when an awb comes to your state you can throw away your life doing dumb shit to prove just how immature gun owners really are. Im good on all that.
>prove just how immature gun owners really are
There won't be gun owners once they get their way.
Yeah making all gun owners look like irresponsible clowns is definitely going to help us get our way and won't strengthen the opposition, great idea
We shouldn't make this about guns at all. We need to make this about fighting authoritarianism.
You people are hilarious. Everything you value will be stripped from you and you will win nothing and own nothing amd I'll dox you so I can come lol at you again and again for winning nothing.
>you people
don't forget, you're here forever
I've been here longer than you've been alive zoomer. Nice bot post tho
And yes you people. Lmao
>standing by their houses or where they work with signs is terrorism
Okay Trudeau
>just do nothing while your rights are taken away!
Don't be surprised when you have no rights. He didn't even imply violence.
He’s literally talking about murdering children, you people are fricking weird. I just like gun control more now.
>He’s literally talking about murdering children
Show me the part where he says "murder their children".
They are part of a wider community and have routines in the world. People have successfully harassed politicians into changing their vote on something before.
You could easily just pay other kids to bully or even just tell them not to play with someone because their dad is a wienersucker. Why do you frick wits always go to the most extreme shot possible? Egg their house, key their car, ostracize their children. You forget our whole society is pussy, to include the scumbag politicians.
>He didn't even imply violence.
>They have kids.
What do you feel he was implying here then moron?
george washington was a terrorist
No one said to be violent. Leftist politicians call for their supporters to go harass conservative politicians at their homes and in public while they shop for groceries.
Their supporters did and do this constantly. Do they get arrested for it? Nope.
The problem is lots of average people see aboetion as an issue that affects them, there are fewer gun owners
This is by the an incentive to convert as many groups to 2a as possible
When did anyone ITT bring up abortion?
It’s pointing out how you generate backlash: Get as many people invested in guns as possible and convince them they’re losing their rights. The more that happens the more illegal laws like this get punished. Basically make the hobby newbie friendly
minorities and lgbt are arming themselves everywhere, and rich white Democrats don't understand why.
Now you should try viewing them as people, anon.
I hate liberal elitists but not lgbt or minorities
That's essentially what guntubers do and /k/ hates them despite a single guntuber getting more people in to firearms than this entire board combined.
We’ll time to hope thumb can charm suburban moms into realizing they need a gun
he abandoned WA a while ago
Glow
t. Noguns foreigner
Absolute fricking nonsense. It'll take a bit for a case to reach the Supreme Court, but once it does the ban will be dismissed with prejudice.
Tell that to California
California dems are shidding their pants in the wake of the Bruen decision. I just read an article a while back about how Gavin Newsom was really concerned the AWB and mag limit laws are going to get btfo
>Bruen is going to change everything! Just 2 more weeks! Even though it hasn't changed a single thing since it was ruled.
Going to be funny ten years down the line when even more states have AWB's and people are still going to be spouting this moronic Bruen trust the plan shit.
At this point, trusting any government entity bemarks a fool. They want nothing more than your firearms, and it's for a good reason. The US government is still unsure what would happen if the people rose up. The people aren't defeated yet.
i still don't know what the frick benitez is waiting for. CA is going to appeal that shit anyway, let's get it going
Americans fear the collapse of their own government more than anything. They never had the balls to start a war. America isn't exactly known for winning wars this century.
Lol at all the Americans scared of disobeying the gov, guns are for shooting deer and homies nothing more
guns are for NOTHING except for serving your country, and for police when they come arrest you for a Facebook post
The FBI is now looking for you.
100% correct
>attack the politicians for being corrupt
You dumb right-wing MAGAtards tried this on January 6, and achieved nothing. Less than nothing. You were baited into ""attacking"" exactly on your opponent's terms. Same thing will happen this time. If one of those pro-dystopia politicians suddenly gets sniped, that will be enough to sway the sheep's opinion into Australia-tier bans. Then, the pro-gun activists would have no legal recourse. They would have to fight there and then. And all for the life of a replaceable pawn.
>I am now higher on the priority monitoring list
What does that even mean? How does that influence my life at all whatsoever? I don't want a clearance. I know how to hide from glowies online if I wanted because I can hack. I suppose the glowies would know this, but they can't do anything about that. They're not able to track down my TOR node on a Pi that I left in Mexico City last time I visited. Additionally, if I'm on a list then so is literally everyone here including (you). I'm relatively normal -- I'm straight, employed, educated, and not a weeb. Basically, you're just a Nazi so you think government knows everything. I've openly challenged the FBI to a fight to the death out here before. Bring it the frick on.
It is a catch-22 situation, politically it's pretty evident that unless something like 90% of the population were suddenly pro-gun then gun rights are basically going to become worse and worse and nothing can really change it. But on the other hand any serious violent or aggressive attempt to improve the situation would immediately wipe away whatever gun rights were left not even a day later, so it's kind of fricked any way you go.
>we need 90% of the population on our side
Wrong, we just need states that have populations (and cops and politicians) who are unwilling to budge another inch on gun rights.
>gun rights will keep getting worse
Mostly due to overpopulation. 100 years ago, you used to be free to go out in the woods and shoot your revolver. Now, there's barely any such woods left. And they're all private property. More humans means shooting recreationally becomes gayer, as shooting requires a lot of open space.
>catch 22 between waiting and fighting now
If we (the governed) stop cooperating with the system, it's possible to dismantle the whole system without violence. For example, securing free communications like the ones we are having right now. The government cannot rule without the consent of the governed. The best possible outcome at this point is to collapse the system, because any scenario where the system (as it is) survives is a dystopia. They give you paper instead of gold.
>The government cannot rule without the consent of the governed.
You're not "the governed", just a fraction of them, and the majority is slowly losing their patience with you because you keep acting like irresponsible entitled buttholes unwilling to deal with the unavoidable problems of treating guns like toys.
Foolishness. You're just hellbent on taking people's guns. I'm talking about the general merits of resisting an authoritarian state.
given recent polling that fraction is growing and urban liberals attempting to impose urban solutions to urban shithole problems on unrelated rural areas are only going to accelerate that
either the party going after guns realizes that it's a losing issue for gaining votes and pivots to an actual leftist stance on armed workers and anti-tyranny or they'll keep hyping up vocally anti-gun urban liberal darlings and suffering embarrassing electoral defeats. the more people are aware of just how obscenely the NFA has been contorted by the ATF and state governments to extrajudicially override the second amendment, the stronger and likelier pushback becomes
i can summarize the actual leftist stance on guns with this: expect the fascists to be armed and respond accordingly. urban liberals just wish they lived in a world where guns didn't exist, because they perceive the noise of a woodpecker or a backfiring car as a threat to their sheltered lives, and in true urban liberal fashion they must make it everyone's problem by invoking their (dubiously meaningful and recently in decline) majority while oblivious to its tyranny
mass shootings are a symptom of capitalism in decay coupled with capitalist media profiteering on tragedy while (unwittingly... i hope) encouraging copycats. it's not the candle seller's fault the streets are slicked with gasoline by people who want to sell pictures of bonfires and nobody pays the fire department
I agree with everything but the last paragraph. Mass shootings aren't really capitalism in decay, they're society in decay. Which society? Since the East bans guns, it's mostly a Western issue. In general, mass shootings have to do with the nature of humanity. Psychology can come close to understanding them. I've read shooter manifestos, here's what I think:
>expanding population == more psychos
>more crowded places == more opportunities for psychos with powerful weapons
>seemingly benign psychos can turn evil randomly
>violent videogames including mass shooting simulators in mainstream games like CoD
>violent edgy movies like DC and Marvel and more
>violent music etc
>like-'minded' people on the internet, ready to cheer for any evil action and offer guidance
>how, where, and by whom the child is raised is the most important thing
>meanwhile the powerful propaganda machine is carefully designed in the West
>the child is exposed to State propaganda from the age of 5
>from that age, the child starts to learn an alternate form of history
>society is cruel in both China and America where homosexuals will rat you out to authority for anything, starting very young
>cameras watching 24/7 like YOU're the villain
>deteriorating, polluted nature
>nihilistic sex in front of cameras
>technology combined with propaganda and the cruelty of the human beings in society is more than enough to snap minds
>not everyone with a snapped mind is identified or given a proper outlet
>not everyone with a snapped mind can balance themselves
>given recent polling
Could you link to it?
I agree with that. Everyone, but especially liberals are guilty of wanting to govern cities and rural areas in the same way.
nta but the recent electoral performance of vocally anti-gun local candidates that the terminally online urban liberal from out of state adores has been dismal. motherfrickers were too busy jacking each other off from outside the constituency holding the election to realize they may have killed their chances in Texas for the next decade.
if they would just stop making possession a pre-crime like the fricking drug war they hate so much and admit that one of the safest places for these guns to be is in the collection of a responsible owner, they'd probably do a lot better
nah, the cultural decay bullshit is one (or both) of two things:
1) glowies inciting shit to generate mass shootings so they can disarm the population
2) people blaming the miserable existence they have in society on a deviation from some imaginary cultural ideal; generally you can trace the misery back to neoliberal destruction of public safety nets, which is probably why that anon blamed capitalism
keep in mind America destroyed its own asylum system and eradicated orphanages in favor of offloading all that responsibility on private entities or random citizens (or prisons... or private prisons). the guns don't really cause the issue, they just make the victims more capable when they snap
im already going to start working on a new messaging campaign. something along the lines of "seattle antifa disarmed" to explore any possible divide.
Say WA is trying to disarm the lgbt community and get pink pistols to echo you
Have them meme that whenever the pols who did this virtue signal.
>You dumb right-wing MAGAtards tried this on January 6, and achieved nothing. Less than nothing.
they would go on to win the entire lower chamber on a platform of denying the 2020 election, did you press pause on your intake of information back then or something?
t. has never done anything political in his life
Can't you glow frickers just go piss off already? Your constant calls for terrorism and other asinine actions is getting annoying.
>le antique curio not practical tool
There's nothing good about what's being pushed in this country and internationally after the last century of hundreds of millions of murders by rogue (overwhelmingly communist) governments. History and human nature doesn't change, evolve, or 'progress' that much.
To be fair, there are nearly as many Red Chinese there as Vancouver. A lot of this is railroading shit with sheer force of funny money while a disengaged public doesn't assert itself, being so jaded.
Based, I now have one of the most powerful guns in Washington
Soon gangster fights will like hunt showdown
>It's the broomhandle twink again
>Tiny twink with a broom handle Mauser that looks enormous in his hand forces a blowjob on you at gunpoint
you got soft hands boy
Feet too
But at least they’re not gonna take these away
Can’t FFL03 let you recieve old guns directly? They’re pretty much what’s left so no harm in getting one
Are you also Nagantgay?
I like old things
That's not what I asked though innit? I asked if you were Nagantgay or not. What's the trigger pull like on that thing?
About equal to an enfield no 2 because you buy Chinese made springs on eBay and file and clip them
Why are you so strange Nagantgay? What did you even mean by this?
That I mod cheap stuff to make it better
>Why are you so strange
Out of everything that’s what crossed the line?
What holster is thet? I’ve been looking for one to fit my Nagant besides the actual Nagant holster
Some cheap hunter brand holster in an antique store
You have the toes of someone who wears thing style flip flops way too much
>the schizoid nagantmoron is a pasty, hairless midget that lives in the PNW
Naturally.
>t. Humorless Baldjack
>t.
do not respond to it, he's actually mentally ill, has zero social constacts and whenever he does post on PrepHole his autism makes him hyperfocus on a thread and respond to every (you) over the course of hours. just let him get bored.
Literally why do you care?
He's just your typical shitposter, I've seen him in action and there's no way he isn't trying to be as annoying and moronic as possible for attention. I do agree it's best he be ignored though.
It’s not even really my fault. I hadn’t caused any trouble here and all of a sudden a lot of anons run in to b***h. Ofc it got derailed.
>iphone filename basedjack
jesus are you actually from reddit?
How is phoneposting Reddit? PrepHole isn’t worth wasting a desktop on. Especially while at work
>cute twink cutter boy who likes guns
hngggg wife material!!!!!!! in need of correction!!!
How about you suck my dick? And also massage my balls with your soft hands.
based marc antony. Kept his promise of nailing Cicero's hands to the Senate doors.
Hey it's the mauser twink again
You will be like one of those buttholes from Red Dead Redemption 1 online that played all day everyday and unlocked the Mauser Pistol. And all they would do is just spray a pray machine gun fire against noobs with single action revolvers.
Well of course I know him.
I did have more fun with the carcano though
If you are a femboy we should go on a date.
Ratty as shit.
I have a Miroku 1873 in .357 and it's a fricking dream. If you can find one, go for it.
Let's see your broomhandle then tripfrick
You want the 1914 Pre-War Commercial in 7.63 or the 1918 Red 9?
>Complying
lever action rifles are unironically amazingly fun
Good. Been getting real tired of this AR nonsense.
Cowardly homosexual
Did you Washingtonians buy enough lowers and uppers before this passed?
I hope the FBI breaks Hoplopofeils arms during his arrest because he's got hundreds of videos shoulder a pistol brace. Motherfricker should've kept his mouth shut when that homosexual cokeman starting fudding all over the place about CRS and how it's important to be a good cuck to the government.
>when that homosexual cokeman starting fudding all over the place about CRS and how it's important to be a good cuck to the government.
When did cokeman say anything like that? All I remember him saying is that people should stop posting evidence of themselves doing things that the government considers to be crimes online.
>I'M NOT GONNA WEAR BODY ARMOR, BODY ARMOR IS LARP! LARP!
>IF YOU DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL YOU *SHOULD* GET PICKED UP BY THE FEDS CAUSE I'M A GOOD BOI
>I'M NOT A RACIST EVEN THOUGH I SAY Black person AND homosexual TO INTRODUCE MY VIDEOS
>HE DESERVES WHAT HE GOT EVEN THOUGH THE MACHINE GUN IN QUESTION DID NOT WORK AT ALL AND THEY COULDN'T GET IT TO WORK
idk it was literally in his 5 minute shit take video he posted? Idc though homosexual because clearly you're as mentally incompetent as he is.
I also shouldn't be shocked that TFBtv's boy is as snobbish and government cucked as he is considering he's friends with karl the kuck cum drinker.
>idk it was literally in his 5 minute shit take video he posted?
Is this a recent one? I don't exactly keep on top of everything happening with people's favorite ecelebs here.
So moron, why try to defend him?
>ask when someone said something
>hurr why are you defending him?
>HURR DURR DATS NOT DA COKEMAN I NO1!!
>Yeah he said this shit and he's a gay, why defend him
>DUHHH DEFEND HIM? I WAS JUZZ SAYIN'
>seething this hard because not everyone keeps up with ecelebs like you do
>I'm not dumb! You're dumb!
ISHYGDDT
If the idea is to make non compliant ARs and put them away in a safe forever and keep your mouth shut, can’t you still do that? Or did Washington also ban AR lowers? Surely there is some perfectly legal AR configuration that allows for lawful use of a lower receiver.
Dude. Between last years mag ban and now this shit. I’d say it cost me upwards of $10k. Rounded out my AR collection,Aug, AK(s) and MP5
It’s shit I had planned on buying but not so close together. Anyhow im done. Not buying anything. Next step is pay cash for the second house and leave landlet status behind.
>”Frick, I should’ve taken the leanpill”
>your move /k/
That's banned
The way to make something that isn’t banned would be to take a garand and convert it to stripper clips somehow and give it an extended fixed magazine plate with a 10 round capacity like an SKS (but not an SKS because that is banned for some reason). But that would still only give you +2 rounds.
why is there no affordable rifle with a non-pistol grip (what's the actual name for that?), a fixed mag, and feeds from stripper clips? Or not even a fixed mag but can at least feed from clips?
The mini-14 can be fed via clips if you get an aftermarket piece for it but the piece of shit is less accurate than an AR (which is not a huge deal) but costs over $1000 when you can get an AR for 500.
I guess my question is why is the mini14 so expensive? Is it not possible to put out a wooden stocked basic ass rifle for like $400?
>I guess my question is why is the mini14 so expensive?
Because cheap ARs have basically destroyed the market for anything else. Mini-14s used to be cheaper before ARs hit rock bottom prices.
This is also why the solution will be bastardized ARs with fitelite scr stocks and fixed magazines. The AR market today is such a vast and all encompassing thing that if you want an AR with no pistol grip, a fixed mag, no barrel “shroud” (whatever the frick that is), no flash hider, fixed magazine under 10 rounds, that b***h will exist and everyone trying to ban the AR-15 can seethe.
AR-15 and all derivatives are banned by name in Washington
>all derivatives are banned by name
The derivatives haven't been named yet. Check next month's catalog.
B-but it’s wood, and doesn’t have any protruding extremities. it doesn’t even look scary! Why do leftists hate it?
Detachable magazine scary
>Average Seattle gang war arsenals ca. 2025
Tally ho. Hos
So I'm reading the bill here. And am curious about this situation.
>Use 3D printer to print AR-15 lower
>Build my gun
>Get questioned about it
>tell them I printed the AR-15 lower before the bill went into effect
Like, there's not really any way for them to know whether or not that's true, right? Because as it is now as I understand it, there was never a requirement for registering self made firearms.
At the very least, creative firearms will probably end up coming out of this. I think printing an FGC-9 will still be legal no matter what.
NSA Black folk pull the metadata on when you downloaded the file and when you sent it to the printer
>download 3d print gun schematics using VPN
>buy custom printer that's off the network
antichrist BTFO
>captcha: HAXGS
Did they ban spooky ghost guns yet?
>Implying they wont go after lever actions because of muh high capacity tubes suitable for skull shooting.
Nobody should have to be forced to engage in my cowboy larping; I think it's about time I leave this state, for now my birth-state's (California) influence is becoming very apparent now.
You’re just salty because you didn’t have a cowboy kit beforehand
My friend, what did you think I mean when I said "my cowboy larping"? I would be the last guy to be salty here.
They'll come for those too. And your bolt action- no one needs a high power sniper rifle.
first it will be high power sniper style rifles, bolt action rifles are weapons of war, pump action shotguns are also used in war too. No weapons of war on our streets!!
then it will be cowboy style weapons, no lever actions, revolvers or break actions!
finally pirate style weapons, no deadly black powder, which is also detrimental to air quality!
I feel like semi auto pistols are next
I can only hope revolvers are spared
If you gays weren't so pro-police, you would still have rights. morons, the right wingers originally empowered the government to do this shit in the name of stopping terrorism. Americ**ts deserve total NWO enslavement.
>cowboy shooting renaissance
You mean I'll get to shoot cowboys? Wtf I love WA now
Screw this country and my debt+loans, I'm going to Spain. Adios Mutts, I'm going somewhere white for a change.
>white
>Spain
Do we tell him?
checked, but Spain is whiter than USA
Spain has elected social democrat government after social democrat government, they'll have a massive African population within two decades at the most.
>This
Also forget about jobs, guns and non castrated dogos.
t. Eurospic
Spain has terrible gun laws and worse self defense laws than NY city. Enjoy.
>cyberpunk timeline with revolvers and police operated killbots
You have something that the og cyberpunk authors would have considered a supercomputer in your pocket. Corporations own politicians and don't even pretend they don't anymore. Wars are fought with flying VR robots. And we fricked the environment.
We're already in the cyberpunk future.
Isn't there a good chance the law will get overturned?
Not after the mass shootings that will happen this year right before the 2024 elections. Look at Australia.
Not him, but no they're not. I've posted edgier shit about slaying pigs. Anons reported me but I went and bought guns the next week. You're an auth fasc moron with control power delusions who thinks government is everywhere so you want to join them deep inside, because your life lacks meaning and purpose. Those are the actual CIA's words on people like you.
>people with authoritarian personalities will always overestimate the power of authority
Just because they didn't do anything doesn't mean you haven't been upped on their priority monitoring.
Schizos like you never realize that if they're watching everybody then they're watching nobody. The fact of the matter is the feds have their hands so full of stuff they aren't watching most people on basketweaving forums.
>he thinks watching means there's an actual wagie looking at all his texts
RedHats are fricking morons. The Feds are still legally tracking and sentencing people who were there on Jan 6.
>Sun Tzu clearly said:
>do NOT make an idle threat
>what did the morons do on January 6th?
Checked. At most, what we're talking about gets fed to some kind of AI analytics machine.
>FBI is tracking me right now
I have a 10k host botnet so I have 10k IP's. I'm unironically smarter (and stronger) than they are. They're dumb fat boomers.
democrats lost the popular vote later because of that event
no they didn't
54 is more than 51
whole percentage points more
why are you pretending the house vote is the same as the presidential popular vote? a bit dishonest no?
And then the GOP had a net loss of 4 state houses, 2 govs, and a senate seat
The third worst challenger performance in a mid term in the last 100 years
The law does go against all supreme court rulings on what the second amendment protects, but politicians and Washingtonians don't care about rights.
States can just keep challenging it over and over while keeping their current AWBs up anyways, so expecting the supreme court to do anything isn't a good idea regardless.
There's a half dozen SCOTUS rulilings that nullify it and Benitez is likely to drop his ruling regarding CA's AWB that impacts the entire 9th District, which puts WA's ban directly at odds. There will be resistance to the Benitez ruling, which will mean the case has no other venue than to go to SCOTUS.
There's no incentive for Benitez to drop his ruling any time soon though, going at a snails pace is unfortunately the best move when it comes to a career in politics, so it might take years or even a decade before a ruling drops.
he's a federal senior judge. his career is already set. he's in that seat for life. that's why he doesn't give a frick about going against CA gun control laws.
Important to not that the Washington ban is on new sales. Existing guns are grandfathered in to t their current owners. Although I heard if an owner dies, no one can inherit the assault weapon. Looks like they are trying to virtually eliminate them from the state permanently over the next however-many decades.
I already realized this a few years ago. I have all the "tactical" stuff I need and I'm bored of it, I don't feel like I'm cucking out by leaving that stuff in my safe and taking my revolver/tikka/lever action to the range and smiling the whole time. They will never even think about taking my cowboy guns. No magazines to buy, no state cuckery on buying "scary" ammo at big box stores, I just play by the rules and don't think about whatever fake and gay legislation is coming down the pipe. Clears my head to not worry about my guns getting me put on a list.
Can't tell if this is bait or the PNW is genuinely this mentally cucked.
PNWers were needlessly wienery for so many years about their shitholes too, and now look at them.
The only thing that saved us was the fact that the states were geographically red with a few blue enclaves, and that we have legislative sessions rather than a year-round legislature. The suburbs of Portland and Seattle were in play up until 2018, the AWB was just virtue signaling because the senators/reps from those districts were afraid they'd lose their seats if they voted for it. They had a few good elections due to TDS and abortion rulings in 2018/2020/2022 and felt invincible.
It doesn't help that both OR/WA's republican parties are fricking moronic. Problem is the easterners get to pick the statewide candidates and they pick people who can't win a statewide election. We're not getting Dan Evans or Dixie Lee Ray, we're getting morons like Loren Culp who make Inslee look intelligent.
I heard .50 BMG was banned outright. Is that true?
The Barrett rifles were banned by name but I don't think .50 BMG as a caliber was banned, so single-shots are still allowed.
It's not Washington anymore...silly
It's shultzheimerbergsteinville
There's a statue of Jorge shultzheimerbergstein in London and I'm heading there in a couple of weeks to put a plaque over the name that says
'beto shultzheimerbergstein'
Haha it's gonna be freaking awesome
How is that even legal? I thought a firearm in common use could not be banned?
Why do you think they care?
It isn't, but no one in the courts cares
Washington doesn't have the impact you think it has. The largest impact it'll have is the bit of sympathetic feelings they get (which I don't really think will be all that much). I know some people out there who have been active in fighting against that kind of stuff for a long time, so they get some of my sympathy, but that's a part of a drop in a large pool.
Exhibit A for why PrepHole sucks today.
You need to chill
I just want to post guns and meme while at work
>I just want to scroll through memes and shitpost
It sounds like reddit is more your speed.
My order for an ambi safety and some recoil guide rods got canceled I don't feel so good bros
So can we conclusively say that WA and CA are completely lost? We can count on their police and N-guard to be Communist in the American civil war between Commies and Fascists?
More and more demographics that are traditionally dem are getting into guns so bans are a dangerous game. The moment the GOP culture war collapses (probably soon given the crushing in Wisconsin) the sooner people aren’t blindly voting dem because Roe and other scare issues. Expect the libertarians to become bigger after 24
Not my problem.
I don't really care about most of this I'm just confused how Aero Precision is still operating and making sales.
They can sell outside of state. I'm pretty sure they're done though. IIRC a state senator from Tacoma tried to get them an exemption to produce for out of state export but couldn't get even that through the house. They'll be moving out of state or going out of business which is a blow to anyone who used their stuff as OEM.
>Crank out and distribute SMGs to homeless, blacks, and mexicans for free in Minecraft.
>Pull the fire alarm in tech companies, and then firebomb 'em in Minecraft Seattle.
>Smear shit on Jay's car and house in Minecraft.
I hope Aero moves to Tennessee like every other gun company now as the state slowly turns into a massive statewide gun manufacturing facility.
The legislature finds that the gun industry has specifically marketed these weapons as "tactical," "hyper masculine," and "military style” in manner that overtly appeals to troubled young men intent on becoming the next mass shooter. The legislature intends to limit the prospective sale of assault weapons, while allowing existing legal owners to retain the assault weapons they currently own.
Washington is hell, what guns can I even buy now?
you can definitely buy a disabled antique firearm
If I were looking for a 357 lever gat, which one would be the best? One of those Miroku Winchesters? Or a Henry?
Are you still able to buy a min 14 in WA state?
Banned, features detachable magazine and handguard
Alright, so the it would still be possible to buy one right now?
The law doesnt take effect until 2024?
The law went into effect the moment Inslee signed.
I love how morons will still claim Califonria has the worst gun laws when shit like WA and New Jersey are significnatly worse. At least I can own a Mini-14 here. Stay seething flyovertards.
Sometimes I wish a federal AWB passed just to everyone on /k/ lose their minds.
Can they build spooky guns at home?