Look neat but aren't really useful for much other than looking neat. You can't power them for a month off of AAA batteries like you could with the Model 100.
>Model 100
Oh wow, that takes me back. Late summer 1988, 300 baud accoustic modem and a payphone. I think they were 7-Even-1 protocol. Or was that my old Apple ][e ?
7-Even-1 just meant both computers expected seven bits of data, and checksum digit that came out even, and then one stop bit, usually to give one of the computers some extra time to handle the workload of communications. Acoustic modems were prone to noise errors, so the checksum bit probably helped a little bit. With a direct connect modem and in an area with reasonable phone service, you could have gone 8N1, which was slightly faster (maybe 10%). For transferring text, that would have been fine since errors would be obvious most the time. For binary or numeric data, you'd want to use something like XMODEM (not sure if the superior ZMODEM had been invented yet) or Kermit.
>Acoustic modems were prone to noise errors
Oh absolutely. I was walking by a 7-11 in SW Calgary one evening and saw a guy parked next to a payphone and saw wires from the booth going into his car. 18 yo driver saw me watching him and said everything was all right, he was just bbs'ing. Surprised him when I said I do the same, what board was he on? Turned out he was accessing a popular chat system that I was registered on. He was using a model 100 and everytime a car drove by on 17th Ave we'd get a burst of garble. He was just mobile-bbs'ing for shits & giggles. I believe he jury rigged an Apple 2c for portable at some time in the past. As an Applehead I was intrigued. I think he had to modify a power cord to get it to work off a battery or cig lighter.
Thanks for the info on the 7E1/8N1 formats. At the time some of the boards were 7E1 and most of them ran on Apples for some reason. But by end of '88 they were mostly gone. I remember those settings were critical and had to be set manually.
I traded my ][e for a Lisa 2 that year. Roomy had a RS CoCo 2 and 3 computer and I do remember YMODEM on the terminal program he was using. I'm pretty sure ZMODEM and Kermit were available then because I remember seeing those options on the download sections of the boards. Roomy got an IBM 386 DX33 later that year and we had access to ZMODEM and everything else.
I now remember knowing the creator of the terminal program for the CoCo, it was Ultimaterm. Best software out at the height of the Coco popularity. He was 18 then, wrote it during his spare time for nothing. Solid programmer. Most of the software then was pretty trashy looking but his looked next level professional.
>Retro-flashback. listening to Van Halen & drinking beer while typing this like I used to do back in '87/88 while modeming. :^) Thanks reading this, memories flooding back.
I read this, only understood about 3/4 of it, but was still fascinated. Reminds me of the Totse days of early internet where things were starting to come together even though phone phreaking and BBS was already out of the picture in favor of URLs you could type in plain English.
Yes, if you configured the bit settings wrong, you'd get nothing but garbage. Pretty much nothing was automatic at that time. You even had to set the baud rate manually.
Funny you knew the Ultimaterm guy. I used it quite a bit until I got rid of my CoCos (an early battleship gray 1981 model and a CoCo 3) and moved to an MSDOS machine. I didn't know he was only 18, that's pretty driven for a teen.
Saw where someone made a cyberdeck inspired by the MC10, the mini version of the CoCo. It looked very impractical but still a nice make.
>you knew the Ultimaterm guy
Yes, I met him. I had to dust off some old brain cells but I remember that he wrote it over a span of a few months after school hours. He was graduating high school and working a p/t job at a computer store on weekends at the time. He then went to U of Calgary that fall and took computer sciences. He was giving away Ultimaterm free although there was a suggestion to mail him $5 and he'd send you a floppy. My roommate reported a couple of bugs to him in the early versions so he came over one evening to see the issues. I remember that he figures he made about $1,000. He just made it for fun. It spread among the local CoCo community pretty quick and was THE terminal software to use. It inevitably spread out from Calgary. I think he even got a write-up in a CoCo magazine that same year.
Ex-roomy kept his CoCo's until he passed away in 2007.
I read this, only understood about 3/4 of it, but was still fascinated. Reminds me of the Totse days of early internet where things were starting to come together even though phone phreaking and BBS was already out of the picture in favor of URLs you could type in plain English.
It was a neat time for sure. I got into computers in fall of 1982 when my best friend in grade 9 had an Apple 2 and a 110/300 baud accoustical modem so I was only online on weekends when I went over to his place. It was games for us back then (warez, heh). Where I lived there were only a couple of BBS's and irc they were for trading games. I had 'Loderunner' about 3 weeks before official release date. 🙂 Then when War Games movie came out the BBS scene seem to explode.
I know one could blue box in Calgary right up until 1987 in limited fashion, after that it stopped working. AGT (Alberta Govt Telephones) had detectors to catch them.
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Ahhh memories of Phrack magazine, ANSI graphics, and screaming along at 2400 baud. 🙂
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Glad you mentioned it was donationware because I knew I never paid for it and thought I may have pirated it, which is weird now that I from time to time meet, usually online, people who wrote those programs. Glad he still made some money off of it.
Funny you mention getting online in 1982. I got my first modem in early 1983 and it's very rare that I ever meet anyone who got online before me, so you're a bit of a unicorn, even if it was your friend's computer. I was a good model citizen online until WarGames came out later in 1983, at which point I wanted to be David Lightman. Never got into too much trouble though I did end up with a $300 phone bill due to thinking I new how to blue box but really didn't. Ooops! Took me six months to pay my mom back for that mistake.
If you'd like to try out a CoCo 3 Lode Runner inspired game, go to colorcomputerarchive.com. In the disk games section is a game called 'Digger III' that does a nice job of using the CoCo 3's capabilities to make a fun clone that I enjoy more than the original. Arrow keys to move, ALT to dig.
>In the future with more standardized free open source hardware modules, and more and better more end-user friendly free software
Lord, give me optimism like that of this anon's
Like so much in modern society, FOSS has been deeply infected with contemporary politics, which is a huge distraction and seems to mostly serve as a way to direct control of projects over to corporate interests. It certainly is disheartening considering what once seemed possible.
I just keep all my work cell phones charged and a stack of 18650's and a power bank. Currently >s8+ >Huwawei6p >s10+ >pixel 7pro >around 30 charged 18650s >a raspi and portable monitor with portable wikipedia >a kobo with a 500gb card >an actual steam deck
All of the above makes more sense than a mech keyboard shit stack of 3d printed junk - this is coming from a guy who likes 3d printers.
>could unlock any vehicle and get it started.
this was a bit of a meme and only affects a few years of cars. I think you also need to witness the car being unlocked at least once
Funny that was my post and I also had a Zune. That was when I learned what buttholes Apple users could be about anyone choosing a non-Apple product. I picked the Zune because it had more storage for the same price as the iPod and it could play WMA files, which were about half as small as MP3s, so that's what I ripped all my CDs into. Why not get more than twice as much music as I could get with an iPod? But each time an iPod owner saw me with the Zune, it was like I had shit in their mouth. They just had to come over and make a bunch of negative comments even though it wasn't their device and it didn't impact them in any way. For some reason, the very existence of something that wasn't an iPod deeply offended them.
Looks like a israeli piano.
I remember like 10 years ago a chunkier version of this existed and it could unlock any vehicle and get it started.
>could unlock any vehicle and get it started.
this was a bit of a meme and only affects a few years of cars. I think you also need to witness the car being unlocked at least once
It still can work but it's not something that would be all that useful. On much older vehicles, the keyfob sends a code specific to that vehicle. You can use a HackRF to capture that code and then replay it and open the car. Most vehicles you'll still see on the road use rolling codes, so each time you press the keyfob, it sends a new code and all old codes are invalidated. You can still open someone's car but you have to do something like this >Be close enough to the target vehicle and the person with the keyfob to be able to jam the signal from the keyfob and receive what it was sending. >Hope the person presses the keyfob multiple times so you can capture multiple codes. >When you have multiple codes, before they can press the keyfob again, stop jamming and send the oldest code you received. >The car will unlock and they'll probably just think the battery in the keyfob is weak and in need of replacement. >Follow the person to their destination. When they get out, they'll lock the vehicle. The lock code usually isn't a rotating code and even if it were, it wouldn't be the same sequence as the unlock code. >After they've walked away, replay one of the newer codes you captured. >The car will unlock (just once).
>That was when I learned what buttholes Apple users could be about anyone choosing a non-Apple product
I never understood this. I mean, not even Coke vs Pepsi or Marvel vs DC is fought as hard as that.
I recently dug out my old iPod Video 5.5 and got it a few upgrades, still works like a charm.
Still, why would I hate somebody who likes other companies?
The only problem here is that Zunes got a lot of publicity because of the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, which had their price skyrocket.
I also saw this kind of attitude when growing up, but it was out of the school faculty. The system admin thought Apple could do no wrong, yet all of the networked shit constantly failed. They'd dish out MacBooks to the whole class, and nobody could even log in. I saved up for a Dell Axim PDA and had a keyboard I could plug in to it. Started doing my research and got to typing while everyone else fricked around with their stupid Mac shit.
The ui on mayhem is good but still lacking vs what you could do with a laptop. If I made a dedicated radio deck it would have the sdr shielded inside it with multipath antenna routing so you can pick a filter bank for the band you're working with, pass in an LNA or out amp, etc, then a screen and keyboard for radio apps.
https://i.imgur.com/8Pia6JL.jpg
If I can't jack it into my brain, it's not a cyberdeck, chummer.
When vr/ar can replace screens, then Id consider the value of a keyboard/computer combo.
having to carry a vr headset (even the ones that look like sunglasses) is an extra thing that can be forgotten and either needs to be plugged into the keyboard/computer combo or regularly charged. youll still need a top clamshell to protect the keyboard and a way to show people stuff if they dont have headsets. id expect by the time vr is good enough to replace screens, laptops will still be a thing but with lower quality screens to be used as backup, possibly smaller and sharing the top clamshell with speakers and daughterboards (or even the motherboard since that part of the case is always exposed to air.
Good use cases: >waterproofing a giant mass of laptop, SDRs, sesnsors, filters, etc. for real-world usage instead of just throwing everything in a backpack >enclosing stuff like RPi's for real-world usage >it looks cool
Cons: >pelican cases are expensive
You don't need a real pelican case for a clamshell cyberdeck. A cheap harbor freight pelican-knockoff case is more than sufficient.
cases are expensive
why the frick are you going on about pelican cases? these things are meant to be worn. you don't wear a pelican case
No, most cyberdecks are not designed to be wearable. FFS, have you seen the size of their namesake on the cover of William Gibson books?
One of the most popular and common cyberdeck builds is the "SHTF" computer built inside a waterproof case and loaded up with stuff like survival guides.
Seems like there are two broad categories of cyberdecks: the pelican case disaster ones meant to be functional and then the cybercool ones meant to be show pieces.
I have nothing against them when the people making them accept that they are just making a prop to take photos of to post on Reddit.
What triggers me is the people who insist that their jank creations have practical use & that they wouldn’t be infinitely better off with a smartphone, iPad or laptop.
>I have nothing against them when the people making them accept that they are just making a prop to take photos of to post on Reddit. > >What triggers me is the people who insist that their jank creations have practical use & that they wouldn’t be infinitely better off with a smartphone, iPad or laptop.
lol I want one now
I used to do something similar with a TI-83. Have it print random strings on a loop, then leave it on your desk. Everyone at school/work will think you're running the code from The Matrix.
there isn't. anything one of these can do, an ultraportable laptop can do at a quarter of the power cost and size. you can't even meme out about wireless or whatever since laptops have these things called "ports" so you can just plug in additional wifi adapters/SDRs/whatever as necessary.
plus most laptops have two WWAN slots inside so even if you're autistic about things sticking out, you can just get a second wireless card for wifi """"hacking"""" and if you get an older laptop it might still have an expansion bay that allows for flush-fitting cards for whatever memey shit you intend on doing. (plus, then you can swap them out as needed and feel like you're in Battle Network when you do it)
>build toilet with rectal recognition >someone "forgets" to flush again >confront them >they lie >show list of all the times their rectum was recognized >surprisedpikachu.jpg >you have no idea the lengths I will go to
absolutely impracical, useles abd in my humble opinion - fricking awsome
the one issue being very poorly defined, but if you need your computer to have tools attached to it on the go it's actually a pretty good option, since you can eliminate portrusions wich will hapoen with even best, most specialized and expwnsive workhorse laptops, and make the ports less prone to damage as a result
that's only if you need tools tho - again they are not typically very practical
They're super cool and I want to build one for the novelty, the biggest issue I've come across is, that your smartphone is already the ultimate cyberdeck.
Any decent reworked phone with a screen(maybe?) and keyboard attached would have miles better functionality than some pi wrapped in a 3d printed shell.
Cyberdecks were extra cool in the late 90s early 00s when the thought of portable computing was becoming a reality, but in the era of the modern smartphone is like lamenting about how the rotary phone was the coolest shit around in the 90/00s
Wireless anything is prone to all manner of reliability and security issues. For a phone, it really depends on the screen size and how well the USB-C port can handle multiple devices plugged into it. In most cases, an actual laptop is the better solution. Phones and tablets with a bunch of hubs or splitters connected are clunky and limited in functionality.
>your smartphone is already the ultimate cyberdeck
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The only advantage these things have over tablet/phones is being able to load any OS you want, and you can just use a laptop. The real truth is laptops/small devices have gotten so light and so cheap they blow these 'cyberdecks' the frick out.
>laptops/small devices have gotten so light and so cheap they blow these 'cyberdecks' the frick out
They break easily and inherently aren't compatible with physical modding beyond slapping stickers onto them or plugging in shit to bareback ports and putting the protruding attachments to risk, tho
And don't get me started on inbuilt backdoors and incompatibility with quick and carefree disassembly and maintenance
Yes, for many use cases, we seem to be far beyond the point of diminishing returns and into the area of negative value when it comes to laptops getting thinner and lighter. At some point you might end up needing to buy a special paperweight to keep the things from blowing away. They're already very easy to accidentally knock off a desk.
Maybe the focus shouldn't be on cyberdecks but instead cyberdocks, which as far as I can tell, isn't something anyone has really built yet unless you get wishy-washy about the definition.
It used to be common for laptop users to have a physical dock that they'd lock their laptop into. The dock had connections to a real monitor, full keyboard, mouse, tons of ports, and the ability to physically lock the laptop down. These days those have mostly been replaced by port replicators, which is often the size of a tablet with a bunch of cables going in and out. It quickly becomes a rat's nest and makes the laptop vulnerable to being accidentally knocked around.
A cyberdock could provide a curated set of ports, a better keyboard than the cracker thin one provided with the laptop, and a screen holder that locks the screen at a preferred angle. A Pi 400 based cyberdeck might be considered a version of this but those tend to permanently embed the Pi 400 into the device.
Built one based on a raspberry pi. It worked as a decent enough remote desktop to my main pc but to be honest I wouldn't be caught out and about with it. It looked like a bomb, was a bit of a c**t to turn on and off and was lunchbox sized. God forbid I get on a plane with it.
I pulled out the pi and used it in a retro gaming set up and just use a laptop because it does everything the cyberdeck would do but 100 times faster and better.
memey bullshit for PrepHole morons who don't even follow tech enough to know THESE ALREADY EXIST
literally just get a tablet computer and a wrist strap. if you want a keyboard you can get one. a tablet not good enough? get a very small elitebook. or if you got real money, there are a variety of extra compact fold up laptops where the keyboard folds and such so you can still carry it on your wrist if you really want
but seriously just get a fricking laptop you dumb c**t
They're super cool and I want to build one for the novelty, the biggest issue I've come across is, that your smartphone is already the ultimate cyberdeck.
Any decent reworked phone with a screen(maybe?) and keyboard attached would have miles better functionality than some pi wrapped in a 3d printed shell.
Cyberdecks were extra cool in the late 90s early 00s when the thought of portable computing was becoming a reality, but in the era of the modern smartphone is like lamenting about how the rotary phone was the coolest shit around in the 90/00s
https://i.imgur.com/XACUV6K.jpg
What's your opinion on Cyberdecks?
The only advantage these things have over tablet/phones is being able to load any OS you want, and you can just use a laptop. The real truth is laptops/small devices have gotten so light and so cheap they blow these 'cyberdecks' the frick out.
Even then, you can load Win8 or 10 on any ARM device (there are "IoT" versions) and loonix runs on anything if you try hard enough. There is basically no reason to have a "cyberdeck" when modern phones and tablets are basically that but made properly.
Even when the concept of a cyberdeck was new and cool, they were based on laptops anyway. The whole idea is just "What if laptop, but SMALLER" and welp now we're there. even shadowrun has largely dropped the concept of it being a fancy computer and now it's a dedicated piece of hacking equipment for a specific character class and the defining feature of it is that it plugs directly into your skull and offers a VR experience more than it just being a small computer, and you can just fricking get a phone VR headset and a very good phone irl.
I actually have one like this, though I just use it as a wearable set of loupes when I'm soldering or whatever.
It's military grade, not meant to type out War and Peace on that chiclet keyboard. It's for doing things like 9-lines for airstrikes with it's GPS. If you need better input, plug in a 104-key keyboard.
They'd be cool if they had specialized internal hardware to fulfill some niche application. Portable chemical analyzer, oscilloscope and protocol analyzer, etc. When they're just a laptop in a custom case what's even the point?
They're cool if you're into FOSS and value privacy and customizability and want to 'own' your computer etc.
For everyone else they're useless. Seemingly most people are happy to sign their life away if it means they can get the latest subscription apps on a sleek device that spies on them and harvests their data 24/7 for a very lofty price.
For now cyberdecks are not as practical or useful as what you can buy in the supermarket, and they're mostly a gimmick unless you're very technologically minded and value your freedom.
In the future with more standardized free open source hardware modules, and more and better more end-user friendly free software, these kinds of devices will be more reliable and most people will be able to make them for a very cheap price very easily if they want to.
>In the future with more standardized free open source hardware modules, and more and better more end-user friendly free software
Lord, give me optimism like that of this anon's
I'm stationed out at Ramstein AFB, Germany, and we still use this because it's one of the only devices we own that can console into serial interfaces natively. Pretty funny lugging it around in current year, but it boots faster than any other console device we have.
Oh yeah. The pain never ends with legacy equipment. Thankfully the Agilent system runs windows 98 on a hard drive faster than windows 11 can operate on an NVME SSD. I'm usually in and out with that thing. What makes it especially interesting to use is the physical switches for changing baud rate, timing, other standard things for the time, and sending error bits. It can negate the use for requiring a dedicated BERT device in a lot of cases.
Theatre LD here. I always hated the feel of the eos/ion hardkeys and this is a good way around that.
I don't think I'd ever take this thing out in public tho because I'd never get any work done with all the questions being asked about the deck.
Gay Larping. Most look stupid as hell or built using the same case sold by Pelican/Harbor Fright running a Raspberry Pi. People never use them after building them for anything. Also people are moronic as frick calling any PC base tablet or 80s' laptop a cyberdeck.
I have a Lenovo Yoga laptop that I tried to swap out the keyboard after some of the keys wore out. Never could get it back together. Too many small connectors with tiny tolerances. Now I'm thinking I can take all those parts and turn it into one of these cyberdecks. Will have to figure out extending the connectors and probably will go ahead and use a desktop keyboard instead of the membrane one of came with.
Questions on the Pelican case versions for SHTF.
Do they use a laptop or desktop components as the base?
Anyone have a decent bill of materials for something like that, especially with an SDR?
Typically they use some sort of single board computer, running linux, that doesn't use a lot of power. Since the intention is to be use it in a SHTF scenario you really want to prioritize battery life. And the smart ones build with the ability to charge from variable DC voltages.
Only worthwhile if you have a very specific thing that needs 10 dongles attached to a laptop to do, and that specific thing is out in the woods or on jobsites. I know some radio guys basically build a laptop into a case with all their equipment (Sdr, antenna hookups, etc) in them so they can just bring one thing. some companies make them for testing equipment. No real reason to make one unless you want to just do it as a project with raspberry pi- Most of the ones on youtube are just someone sticking a laptop body in a pellican case and attaching a chinese screen "wow, so cool!"
I think they're a cool alternative form factor but none of the ones I've ever seen look like something I'd actually use. One if these days I'll stop being lazy, learn CAD, and print my own parts for a custom one. Think something like a Nintendo Switch but with a split keyboard instead of controllers, and the screen on an articulating arm.
they are a good example how much better a prebuild laptop is compared some diy-ed solution.
a case for a laptop would be more practical, even gluing a laptop in suitcase is more useful.
You can always build a button box or custom sensors from a Arduino and that plug into the computer.
reflections of a future some magazines kind of promised to us but never happened, they are nostalgia shit, and all nostalgia shit has a ton of bullshit on it.
Cyberdecks are super weird to me.
I absolutely hate laptop batteries, and laptop screens are also never bright enough.
Additionally the batteries are tiny these days and don't last.
I would really like a custom laptop with a mechanical, split ego keyboard (maybe with a cool fold out mechanism) and an ultrabright screen backlight for outdoor use.
And obviously a big fricking chunky battery so it actually lasts all day with the display pulling 30W.
I've not seen anyone build anything remotely as practical, all the cyberdecks seem to be absolute homosexualry just trying to look cool while being incredibly unpractical.
>build one that suits your needs.
What do people need these for? I did a google image search to see what people are building and everything I've seen looks like it's for larping. Maybe those aren't good examples.
I'd just use a panasonic toughbook + a few fluke handhelds if I needed a kit for field work, but custom PCs are kind of neat I guess.
Yeah, I'd love to build a briefcase PC.
Modern laptops suck ass, I want desktop components in a somewhat portable form.
Just worried about batteries.
Is it even possible to build this with off-the-shelf components? I'm a programmer, not an electronics guy, and don't even own a soldering iron. Are there PSUs with batteries included that work with desktop motherboards, or am I fricked?
Would be a good idea, but I kinda want ECC RAM, so that's no an option.
The ECC RAM is one of the main reasons I decided to go for desktop components instead of trying to find a laptop with ECC.
It's possible, but heavy and stupid.
Your battery life will be abysmal.
Cyberdecks shine when you go for low power components with a huge capacity battery for literally days of battery life. You're going for the opposite.
Now what you could do is give up the battery idea and just build yourself a cool "computer in a case" with the intention to be plugged in wherever you take it.
>What do people need these for?
What would be perfect for me is just a split keyboard that could connect to something like a phone in desktop mode that all just serves as a dummy terminal to a remote PC. Whenever I need to do more typing/computing than I care to do on a phone it would be nice to have a pocket sized keyboard and remote client.
Something like
https://www.slicemk.com/products/ergodox-wireless-lite?variant=41542629949614
and
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.realvnc.viewer.android
with a 3D printed frame to snap everything together
I want to build one. I've done some low-level beginner stuff with the Arduino
Doesn't seem like a huge or overly difficult leap to build a Raspberry Pi/Linux OS minicomputer deck.
id want one roughly in the form factor of OP pic.
>build it inside a smallish thin line pelican style laptop briefcase. >For basic general purpose hobby computing >with an edge towards programming, science and math applications >OS: Linux Debian of some flavour > basic suite of Linux based software apps >select projects: mini weather station., SDR package. programmable math/formula solver
I think if you attach a SIM to it(with 4g or 5g connection), you can remotely connect to your desktop and voila, you have access to a beefy computer anywhere.
I've thought about building pic attached for a really long while. I am thoroughly convinced it is worthwhile but operating system and SBC choice is make or break.
i really want something like this where you can type while standing and has gpio on the back but its out of stock.
maybe i should try to make one myself but its hard to find decent thumb keyboards
Is this something that has an actual use or is it just one of those things you'd wear if you wanted people to know that you have had or want to have your dick chopped off?
It doesn't have a use. Laptops and smartphones are basically solved form factors. Very few devices that aren't a laptop or smartphone have any sort of practical application as you can do most everything on the aforementioned devices. ereaders are a decent example, as their nice screens and physical size make them far comfier to read a book on than a phone.
>Laptops and smartphones are basically solved form factors.
no. wrong. those are both proprietary specific bloated shoe horned glowngger garbage.
a cyber deck can be made to exact user preferences with limitless scalability and expansion. without the need to reverse-hack-gimp an infinite set of workarounds to get a canned prebuilt proprietary spyware laptop to do what you want it to do.
Doesn't know how to disable Bluetooth and WiFi.. either thru driver delete or hardware removals.
Wants to diy a "cyber deck"
Can't wipe and install new OS..
Have fun with your useless pile of junk.
Personally I'd rather repurpose something useful
Maybe you should do the wooden steampunk laptop for the street cred or whatever, just make sure you don't use any off the shelf parts or it'll be gay, bro
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i bet you don't even know how to solder.
Kek
Probably afraid it'll have a backdoor from China..
>a cyber deck can be made to exact user preferences with limitless scalability and expansion.
Not by you because they're such a kludge they will still suck. No hardware the size of a cyberdeck is "limitless" because of construction and ergonomic constraints. How many have YOU built and with what specs and parts?
>build one that suits your needs.
What do people need these for? I did a google image search to see what people are building and everything I've seen looks like it's for larping. Maybe those aren't good examples.
I'd just use a panasonic toughbook + a few fluke handhelds if I needed a kit for field work, but custom PCs are kind of neat I guess.
Of course they're for larping. If builders had the manhood to admit that it would be fine. The BS excuses are the homosexualry.
https://i.imgur.com/NvAr9fT.jpg
>What do people need these for?
I'm thinking use pic related as the shell and mount all the parts on shock absorbers. Perfect rugged laptop.
Not unless the components are also rugged and waterproof. Is that case at least IP65?
The only "better" part here is if they actually worked on it instead of making bullshit like this. Fore one, if they just accepted a bigger cberdeck size, they'd be able to accept running fully auditable hardare and have a bigger battery.
I like them. Not the "Put raspi in the pelican" kind of ones, but the ones built with purpose behind them.
They tend to reflect their builders personality.
Cyberdecks fall into two categories: ones built to get updoots on reddit, and ones built for a purpose.
The latter is the type of cyberdeck I want to build, since I want a 'deck that can also act as a portable oscilloscope, waveform generator, and be generally useful for fricking around with other hobby projects.
I also want one that can bridge the gap between my phone and my laptop, so it has to be compact and portable with a good battery and physical keyboard.
Finding hardware to achieve this should be reasonably straightforward, the trick is kludging it together and programming it to work correctly. I still have a lot of learning to do, but I want a useful fricking cyberdeck even if I have to build it myself.
>portable oscilloscope, waveform generator, and be generally useful for fricking around with other hobby projects.
you can just get USB versions of all those devices and a normal-ass laptop.
The idea is to put everything in a convenient netbook/palmtop sized package without stupid dongles or other shit hanging off. Small, light, portable. I could probably stuff it all into something the size of a VCR tape.
https://www.americancivilwarstory.com/whitworth-rifle.html
Allowed for much greater accuracy than other rifles of the period at the cost of being more expensive to make.
It's polygonal rifling, by the looks. Different from cutting grooves in the barrel, less prone to fouling. The bullets and shells are still round.
These actually did use hexagonal bullets and were relatively more prone to fouling but you would be correct in regards to modern polygonal rifling applications.
That's interesting, and pretty cool. Didn't realize it was a black powder rifle, so it makes sense why it would foul up pretty quickly even compared to a regular cut rifle. Learn something new every day.
looks kinda cool but completely impractical to actually use unless you're a larper
and by "impractical" i mean forcing yourself to do anything productive using a raspberry pi and a tiny ass screen is just silly when dirt cheap laptops from last gen are just as portable, perform better, and cost less. i still like looking at pics of them but would never make my own
I was thinking of making on that goes in a case for when I want to do RF stuff but acquiring all the bits and assembling it was too much work, would be easier single handedly creating a single product.
Seems like a fun way to spend some spare parts and bits you have laying around.
I like gadgets that are abnormal, I'd make something stupider that has a receipt paper roll on it for small shitty printouts.
I'm trying to learn some basic electronics skills so I can build some shit nobody but me could possibly want. But it can't just be stupid, it must be absolute lobotomy levels of moronic.
cool and look neat but not practical and I would never own one
I just finished reading Count Zero today and Neuromancer a few days ago so that might be colouring my opinion
my laptop is one the way out so I'm considering using my phone with a keyboard plugged in to remote to my home desktop, seems more practical than this when internet speed is good and widely available
I am in the process of ordering parts for a keyboard that will ultimately contribute to a minimal and practical build resembling this concept. If the thread survives another week or two I will share. Don't get too excited.
Useless hipster shit
Laptops have been around for decades, “briefcase computers” are pointless now that we have computers that fit inside regular briefcases
a cyberdeck is just a pc with a neural VR device attached. so i guess you. you'd have to sign up for elon's PRIME study to get the closest thing to neural vr we have and to get on that you'd have to be sick with ALS. closest thing to a cyberdeck you can get these days as a healthy normal person is a gaming pc + a quest 3 to stream games to
Literally made for and by youtubers to get clicks. Absolutely useless. You thought differently? Wtf
It's dumber than a live edge epoxy table because you could still at least theoretically need a table
>i hate beautiful and cool things
ok, but are you happy in life?
Your 3d printed piece of shit isn't beautiful at all.
I can finger frick a finely milled piece of steel all day long but your cyber dick is lame as hell.
>beautiful and cool things
These are neither, they are pale imitations of 1980s shit
Good for SEL cosplays, goes well with my anime schoolgirl outfit and thigh-highs. Useless for everything else.
Look neat but aren't really useful for much other than looking neat. You can't power them for a month off of AAA batteries like you could with the Model 100.
>Model 100
Oh wow, that takes me back. Late summer 1988, 300 baud accoustic modem and a payphone. I think they were 7-Even-1 protocol. Or was that my old Apple ][e ?
7-Even-1 just meant both computers expected seven bits of data, and checksum digit that came out even, and then one stop bit, usually to give one of the computers some extra time to handle the workload of communications. Acoustic modems were prone to noise errors, so the checksum bit probably helped a little bit. With a direct connect modem and in an area with reasonable phone service, you could have gone 8N1, which was slightly faster (maybe 10%). For transferring text, that would have been fine since errors would be obvious most the time. For binary or numeric data, you'd want to use something like XMODEM (not sure if the superior ZMODEM had been invented yet) or Kermit.
>Acoustic modems were prone to noise errors
Oh absolutely. I was walking by a 7-11 in SW Calgary one evening and saw a guy parked next to a payphone and saw wires from the booth going into his car. 18 yo driver saw me watching him and said everything was all right, he was just bbs'ing. Surprised him when I said I do the same, what board was he on? Turned out he was accessing a popular chat system that I was registered on. He was using a model 100 and everytime a car drove by on 17th Ave we'd get a burst of garble. He was just mobile-bbs'ing for shits & giggles. I believe he jury rigged an Apple 2c for portable at some time in the past. As an Applehead I was intrigued. I think he had to modify a power cord to get it to work off a battery or cig lighter.
Thanks for the info on the 7E1/8N1 formats. At the time some of the boards were 7E1 and most of them ran on Apples for some reason. But by end of '88 they were mostly gone. I remember those settings were critical and had to be set manually.
I traded my ][e for a Lisa 2 that year. Roomy had a RS CoCo 2 and 3 computer and I do remember YMODEM on the terminal program he was using. I'm pretty sure ZMODEM and Kermit were available then because I remember seeing those options on the download sections of the boards. Roomy got an IBM 386 DX33 later that year and we had access to ZMODEM and everything else.
I now remember knowing the creator of the terminal program for the CoCo, it was Ultimaterm. Best software out at the height of the Coco popularity. He was 18 then, wrote it during his spare time for nothing. Solid programmer. Most of the software then was pretty trashy looking but his looked next level professional.
>Retro-flashback. listening to Van Halen & drinking beer while typing this like I used to do back in '87/88 while modeming. :^) Thanks reading this, memories flooding back.
I read this, only understood about 3/4 of it, but was still fascinated. Reminds me of the Totse days of early internet where things were starting to come together even though phone phreaking and BBS was already out of the picture in favor of URLs you could type in plain English.
Yes, if you configured the bit settings wrong, you'd get nothing but garbage. Pretty much nothing was automatic at that time. You even had to set the baud rate manually.
Funny you knew the Ultimaterm guy. I used it quite a bit until I got rid of my CoCos (an early battleship gray 1981 model and a CoCo 3) and moved to an MSDOS machine. I didn't know he was only 18, that's pretty driven for a teen.
Saw where someone made a cyberdeck inspired by the MC10, the mini version of the CoCo. It looked very impractical but still a nice make.
>you knew the Ultimaterm guy
Yes, I met him. I had to dust off some old brain cells but I remember that he wrote it over a span of a few months after school hours. He was graduating high school and working a p/t job at a computer store on weekends at the time. He then went to U of Calgary that fall and took computer sciences. He was giving away Ultimaterm free although there was a suggestion to mail him $5 and he'd send you a floppy. My roommate reported a couple of bugs to him in the early versions so he came over one evening to see the issues. I remember that he figures he made about $1,000. He just made it for fun. It spread among the local CoCo community pretty quick and was THE terminal software to use. It inevitably spread out from Calgary. I think he even got a write-up in a CoCo magazine that same year.
Ex-roomy kept his CoCo's until he passed away in 2007.
It was a neat time for sure. I got into computers in fall of 1982 when my best friend in grade 9 had an Apple 2 and a 110/300 baud accoustical modem so I was only online on weekends when I went over to his place. It was games for us back then (warez, heh). Where I lived there were only a couple of BBS's and irc they were for trading games. I had 'Loderunner' about 3 weeks before official release date. 🙂 Then when War Games movie came out the BBS scene seem to explode.
I know one could blue box in Calgary right up until 1987 in limited fashion, after that it stopped working. AGT (Alberta Govt Telephones) had detectors to catch them.
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Ahhh memories of Phrack magazine, ANSI graphics, and screaming along at 2400 baud. 🙂
Glad you mentioned it was donationware because I knew I never paid for it and thought I may have pirated it, which is weird now that I from time to time meet, usually online, people who wrote those programs. Glad he still made some money off of it.
Funny you mention getting online in 1982. I got my first modem in early 1983 and it's very rare that I ever meet anyone who got online before me, so you're a bit of a unicorn, even if it was your friend's computer. I was a good model citizen online until WarGames came out later in 1983, at which point I wanted to be David Lightman. Never got into too much trouble though I did end up with a $300 phone bill due to thinking I new how to blue box but really didn't. Ooops! Took me six months to pay my mom back for that mistake.
If you'd like to try out a CoCo 3 Lode Runner inspired game, go to colorcomputerarchive.com. In the disk games section is a game called 'Digger III' that does a nice job of using the CoCo 3's capabilities to make a fun clone that I enjoy more than the original. Arrow keys to move, ALT to dig.
Like so much in modern society, FOSS has been deeply infected with contemporary politics, which is a huge distraction and seems to mostly serve as a way to direct control of projects over to corporate interests. It certainly is disheartening considering what once seemed possible.
Gramps, don't forget to stay hydrated
I just keep all my work cell phones charged and a stack of 18650's and a power bank. Currently
>s8+
>Huwawei6p
>s10+
>pixel 7pro
>around 30 charged 18650s
>a raspi and portable monitor with portable wikipedia
>a kobo with a 500gb card
>an actual steam deck
All of the above makes more sense than a mech keyboard shit stack of 3d printed junk - this is coming from a guy who likes 3d printers.
Might be good if you're into HAM radio and/or plane tracking type of stuff.
I'd go with building a HackRF in that case but maybe if I got into digital modes, the keyboard would have some value.
Looks like a israeli piano.
I remember like 10 years ago a chunkier version of this existed and it could unlock any vehicle and get it started.
>could unlock any vehicle and get it started.
this was a bit of a meme and only affects a few years of cars. I think you also need to witness the car being unlocked at least once
When i saw the thumbnail i thought that was a frickin zune
Frick, you just brought me back to high school.
Based mp3 enjoyers
Funny that was my post and I also had a Zune. That was when I learned what buttholes Apple users could be about anyone choosing a non-Apple product. I picked the Zune because it had more storage for the same price as the iPod and it could play WMA files, which were about half as small as MP3s, so that's what I ripped all my CDs into. Why not get more than twice as much music as I could get with an iPod? But each time an iPod owner saw me with the Zune, it was like I had shit in their mouth. They just had to come over and make a bunch of negative comments even though it wasn't their device and it didn't impact them in any way. For some reason, the very existence of something that wasn't an iPod deeply offended them.
It still can work but it's not something that would be all that useful. On much older vehicles, the keyfob sends a code specific to that vehicle. You can use a HackRF to capture that code and then replay it and open the car. Most vehicles you'll still see on the road use rolling codes, so each time you press the keyfob, it sends a new code and all old codes are invalidated. You can still open someone's car but you have to do something like this
>Be close enough to the target vehicle and the person with the keyfob to be able to jam the signal from the keyfob and receive what it was sending.
>Hope the person presses the keyfob multiple times so you can capture multiple codes.
>When you have multiple codes, before they can press the keyfob again, stop jamming and send the oldest code you received.
>The car will unlock and they'll probably just think the battery in the keyfob is weak and in need of replacement.
>Follow the person to their destination. When they get out, they'll lock the vehicle. The lock code usually isn't a rotating code and even if it were, it wouldn't be the same sequence as the unlock code.
>After they've walked away, replay one of the newer codes you captured.
>The car will unlock (just once).
>That was when I learned what buttholes Apple users could be about anyone choosing a non-Apple product
I never understood this. I mean, not even Coke vs Pepsi or Marvel vs DC is fought as hard as that.
I recently dug out my old iPod Video 5.5 and got it a few upgrades, still works like a charm.
Still, why would I hate somebody who likes other companies?
The only problem here is that Zunes got a lot of publicity because of the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, which had their price skyrocket.
I also saw this kind of attitude when growing up, but it was out of the school faculty. The system admin thought Apple could do no wrong, yet all of the networked shit constantly failed. They'd dish out MacBooks to the whole class, and nobody could even log in. I saved up for a Dell Axim PDA and had a keyboard I could plug in to it. Started doing my research and got to typing while everyone else fricked around with their stupid Mac shit.
The ui on mayhem is good but still lacking vs what you could do with a laptop. If I made a dedicated radio deck it would have the sdr shielded inside it with multipath antenna routing so you can pick a filter bank for the band you're working with, pass in an LNA or out amp, etc, then a screen and keyboard for radio apps.
When vr/ar can replace screens, then Id consider the value of a keyboard/computer combo.
80s home computers have already proven the value of keyboard/computer combos.
having to carry a vr headset (even the ones that look like sunglasses) is an extra thing that can be forgotten and either needs to be plugged into the keyboard/computer combo or regularly charged. youll still need a top clamshell to protect the keyboard and a way to show people stuff if they dont have headsets. id expect by the time vr is good enough to replace screens, laptops will still be a thing but with lower quality screens to be used as backup, possibly smaller and sharing the top clamshell with speakers and daughterboards (or even the motherboard since that part of the case is always exposed to air.
they're cool if you're underage and forget that laptops and tablets exist
Good use cases:
>waterproofing a giant mass of laptop, SDRs, sesnsors, filters, etc. for real-world usage instead of just throwing everything in a backpack
>enclosing stuff like RPi's for real-world usage
>it looks cool
Cons:
>pelican cases are expensive
cases are expensive
why the frick are you going on about pelican cases? these things are meant to be worn. you don't wear a pelican case
>pelican cases are expensive
You don't need a real pelican case for a clamshell cyberdeck. A cheap harbor freight pelican-knockoff case is more than sufficient.
No, most cyberdecks are not designed to be wearable. FFS, have you seen the size of their namesake on the cover of William Gibson books?
One of the most popular and common cyberdeck builds is the "SHTF" computer built inside a waterproof case and loaded up with stuff like survival guides.
Seems like there are two broad categories of cyberdecks: the pelican case disaster ones meant to be functional and then the cybercool ones meant to be show pieces.
If I can't jack it into my brain, it's not a cyberdeck, chummer.
>shiny wiener orbs
>also jacking in to your gun
>while playing a sick keyboard solo
>and realizing this thing isn't even plugged in
>doesn't know about Shadowrun, deckers, or smartguns
I have nothing against them when the people making them accept that they are just making a prop to take photos of to post on Reddit.
What triggers me is the people who insist that their jank creations have practical use & that they wouldn’t be infinitely better off with a smartphone, iPad or laptop.
Kek, you beat me to it. But I guess it's the same thing with other hobbies and projects as well
>I have nothing against them when the people making them accept that they are just making a prop to take photos of to post on Reddit.
>
>What triggers me is the people who insist that their jank creations have practical use & that they wouldn’t be infinitely better off with a smartphone, iPad or laptop.
>Talking to the iPod.
The Gods must be Crazy 4?
Fun projects, but most of the fun is in the design and building phase. It's kind of like making a semi functional movie or video game prop.
I’m sure there’s some very specific, giga autistic scenario in which this makes sense over a laptop, but I can’t think of one.
If you are autisticly allergic to laptopkeyboards and can only use mechanical keyboards.
then carry a small blue tooth mechanical keyboard with u kek
They're good for impressing gullible clients that your cyber security company is made up of real hackers like in the movies.
lol I want one now
I used to do something similar with a TI-83. Have it print random strings on a loop, then leave it on your desk. Everyone at school/work will think you're running the code from The Matrix.
there isn't. anything one of these can do, an ultraportable laptop can do at a quarter of the power cost and size. you can't even meme out about wireless or whatever since laptops have these things called "ports" so you can just plug in additional wifi adapters/SDRs/whatever as necessary.
plus most laptops have two WWAN slots inside so even if you're autistic about things sticking out, you can just get a second wireless card for wifi """"hacking"""" and if you get an older laptop it might still have an expansion bay that allows for flush-fitting cards for whatever memey shit you intend on doing. (plus, then you can swap them out as needed and feel like you're in Battle Network when you do it)
You mean WLAN, right?
At first glance I thought the sticker said "say no to rectal recognition"
Sure hope nobody starts recognizing my rectum.
>build toilet with rectal recognition
>someone "forgets" to flush again
>confront them
>they lie
>show list of all the times their rectum was recognized
>surprisedpikachu.jpg
>you have no idea the lengths I will go to
better use of a raspberry than leaving it in a drawer
absolutely impracical, useles abd in my humble opinion - fricking awsome
the one issue being very poorly defined, but if you need your computer to have tools attached to it on the go it's actually a pretty good option, since you can eliminate portrusions wich will hapoen with even best, most specialized and expwnsive workhorse laptops, and make the ports less prone to damage as a result
that's only if you need tools tho - again they are not typically very practical
they're cool I guess
that's about it
cool... nothing else
They're super cool and I want to build one for the novelty, the biggest issue I've come across is, that your smartphone is already the ultimate cyberdeck.
Any decent reworked phone with a screen(maybe?) and keyboard attached would have miles better functionality than some pi wrapped in a 3d printed shell.
Cyberdecks were extra cool in the late 90s early 00s when the thought of portable computing was becoming a reality, but in the era of the modern smartphone is like lamenting about how the rotary phone was the coolest shit around in the 90/00s
Wireless anything is prone to all manner of reliability and security issues. For a phone, it really depends on the screen size and how well the USB-C port can handle multiple devices plugged into it. In most cases, an actual laptop is the better solution. Phones and tablets with a bunch of hubs or splitters connected are clunky and limited in functionality.
>your smartphone is already the ultimate cyberdeck
>laptops/small devices have gotten so light and so cheap they blow these 'cyberdecks' the frick out
They break easily and inherently aren't compatible with physical modding beyond slapping stickers onto them or plugging in shit to bareback ports and putting the protruding attachments to risk, tho
And don't get me started on inbuilt backdoors and incompatibility with quick and carefree disassembly and maintenance
Yes, for many use cases, we seem to be far beyond the point of diminishing returns and into the area of negative value when it comes to laptops getting thinner and lighter. At some point you might end up needing to buy a special paperweight to keep the things from blowing away. They're already very easy to accidentally knock off a desk.
Maybe the focus shouldn't be on cyberdecks but instead cyberdocks, which as far as I can tell, isn't something anyone has really built yet unless you get wishy-washy about the definition.
It used to be common for laptop users to have a physical dock that they'd lock their laptop into. The dock had connections to a real monitor, full keyboard, mouse, tons of ports, and the ability to physically lock the laptop down. These days those have mostly been replaced by port replicators, which is often the size of a tablet with a bunch of cables going in and out. It quickly becomes a rat's nest and makes the laptop vulnerable to being accidentally knocked around.
A cyberdock could provide a curated set of ports, a better keyboard than the cracker thin one provided with the laptop, and a screen holder that locks the screen at a preferred angle. A Pi 400 based cyberdeck might be considered a version of this but those tend to permanently embed the Pi 400 into the device.
He's wearing a diaper, isn't he?
Yes, he didn’t own a toilet he was living in his garage
OH FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD I SAID BACON AND EGGS
Built one based on a raspberry pi. It worked as a decent enough remote desktop to my main pc but to be honest I wouldn't be caught out and about with it. It looked like a bomb, was a bit of a c**t to turn on and off and was lunchbox sized. God forbid I get on a plane with it.
I pulled out the pi and used it in a retro gaming set up and just use a laptop because it does everything the cyberdeck would do but 100 times faster and better.
memey bullshit for PrepHole morons who don't even follow tech enough to know THESE ALREADY EXIST
literally just get a tablet computer and a wrist strap. if you want a keyboard you can get one. a tablet not good enough? get a very small elitebook. or if you got real money, there are a variety of extra compact fold up laptops where the keyboard folds and such so you can still carry it on your wrist if you really want
but seriously just get a fricking laptop you dumb c**t
The only advantage these things have over tablet/phones is being able to load any OS you want, and you can just use a laptop. The real truth is laptops/small devices have gotten so light and so cheap they blow these 'cyberdecks' the frick out.
Even then, you can load Win8 or 10 on any ARM device (there are "IoT" versions) and loonix runs on anything if you try hard enough. There is basically no reason to have a "cyberdeck" when modern phones and tablets are basically that but made properly.
Even when the concept of a cyberdeck was new and cool, they were based on laptops anyway. The whole idea is just "What if laptop, but SMALLER" and welp now we're there. even shadowrun has largely dropped the concept of it being a fancy computer and now it's a dedicated piece of hacking equipment for a specific character class and the defining feature of it is that it plugs directly into your skull and offers a VR experience more than it just being a small computer, and you can just fricking get a phone VR headset and a very good phone irl.
I actually have one like this, though I just use it as a wearable set of loupes when I'm soldering or whatever.
Daily reminder that some companies start to make android phones with physical keyboards again.
Check out Unihertz and FxTec.
Those brands aren't inspiring a lot of confidence. Seems like they blew all their money on marketing.
Don't know about FxTec but I've got a Unihertz Jelly Star as my daily driver and I'm happy with it.
Just get one of these and an Oculus, walla instant cyberdeck with the added cachet of it being made by the military-industrial complex.
Looks rugged but that keyboard and command lines? Yikes!
It's military grade, not meant to type out War and Peace on that chiclet keyboard. It's for doing things like 9-lines for airstrikes with it's GPS. If you need better input, plug in a 104-key keyboard.
>walla
voila, but i wouldn't expect an american to know that.
>voila,
Holy frick, get with the memes.
And it's
>voilà
you ingrate.
What, you NEED more?
Someone has TASTE
They'd be cool if they had specialized internal hardware to fulfill some niche application. Portable chemical analyzer, oscilloscope and protocol analyzer, etc. When they're just a laptop in a custom case what's even the point?
For fun.
>say NO to facial recognition
Well if you're carrying this thing around they won't even need facial recognition
They're cool if you're into FOSS and value privacy and customizability and want to 'own' your computer etc.
For everyone else they're useless. Seemingly most people are happy to sign their life away if it means they can get the latest subscription apps on a sleek device that spies on them and harvests their data 24/7 for a very lofty price.
For now cyberdecks are not as practical or useful as what you can buy in the supermarket, and they're mostly a gimmick unless you're very technologically minded and value your freedom.
In the future with more standardized free open source hardware modules, and more and better more end-user friendly free software, these kinds of devices will be more reliable and most people will be able to make them for a very cheap price very easily if they want to.
>In the future with more standardized free open source hardware modules, and more and better more end-user friendly free software
Lord, give me optimism like that of this anon's
This looks cool as shit. Tutorial on what kind of accessory screens these are and how to integrate them qith an old laptop?
It’s fake
theyre embarrassing
>say no to facial recognition sticker
>also spoticuck sticker
I hate normalgays so fricking much. why does their moronic douchery bother me?
Cyberdeck or just someone who gets things done?
Seems to just be getting stuff done.
Here's an HP/agilent T1 test rig
I'm stationed out at Ramstein AFB, Germany, and we still use this because it's one of the only devices we own that can console into serial interfaces natively. Pretty funny lugging it around in current year, but it boots faster than any other console device we have.
Connecting to old serial shit is my nemesis
>it has a custom gui that only runs in dos 5 or win 3.1 or some shit
>frickin
Oh yeah. The pain never ends with legacy equipment. Thankfully the Agilent system runs windows 98 on a hard drive faster than windows 11 can operate on an NVME SSD. I'm usually in and out with that thing. What makes it especially interesting to use is the physical switches for changing baud rate, timing, other standard things for the time, and sending error bits. It can negate the use for requiring a dedicated BERT device in a lot of cases.
this is my homie right here
although a euro was telling me moxas are pretty nice too and work well with VMs
I could get behind big rifle case cum huge fricking laptop meant to replace a whole ass computer desk with dual monitor setup, lol
Even better if it somehow also has legs so it's just a portable desk. L
Local 16 reporting in.
Theatre LD here. I always hated the feel of the eos/ion hardkeys and this is a good way around that.
I don't think I'd ever take this thing out in public tho because I'd never get any work done with all the questions being asked about the deck.
that's just a workstation.
also a key part of the CyberDeck™ is that it's wearable. that doesnt look very wearable.
why are uniongays so cringe and self-absorbed?
Gay Larping. Most look stupid as hell or built using the same case sold by Pelican/Harbor Fright running a Raspberry Pi. People never use them after building them for anything. Also people are moronic as frick calling any PC base tablet or 80s' laptop a cyberdeck.
I have a Lenovo Yoga laptop that I tried to swap out the keyboard after some of the keys wore out. Never could get it back together. Too many small connectors with tiny tolerances. Now I'm thinking I can take all those parts and turn it into one of these cyberdecks. Will have to figure out extending the connectors and probably will go ahead and use a desktop keyboard instead of the membrane one of came with.
why settle for such a tiny screen?
Literally just a worse laptop. At best a worse laptop with a nice mechanical keyboard.
Questions on the Pelican case versions for SHTF.
Do they use a laptop or desktop components as the base?
Anyone have a decent bill of materials for something like that, especially with an SDR?
Laptops are much better for most use cases, mobile chipsets, cpus, ram, and gpu are much better for power and heat than desktop.
If you really need power then desktop stuff is better but you're gonna need a big battery
Typically they use some sort of single board computer, running linux, that doesn't use a lot of power. Since the intention is to be use it in a SHTF scenario you really want to prioritize battery life. And the smart ones build with the ability to charge from variable DC voltages.
they are cool as frick. they are how modern computers should look.
Only worthwhile if you have a very specific thing that needs 10 dongles attached to a laptop to do, and that specific thing is out in the woods or on jobsites. I know some radio guys basically build a laptop into a case with all their equipment (Sdr, antenna hookups, etc) in them so they can just bring one thing. some companies make them for testing equipment. No real reason to make one unless you want to just do it as a project with raspberry pi- Most of the ones on youtube are just someone sticking a laptop body in a pellican case and attaching a chinese screen "wow, so cool!"
Biggest problem is all these zoomers put touchscreens on their cyberdecks instead of installing a superior trackball.
I think they're a cool alternative form factor but none of the ones I've ever seen look like something I'd actually use. One if these days I'll stop being lazy, learn CAD, and print my own parts for a custom one. Think something like a Nintendo Switch but with a split keyboard instead of controllers, and the screen on an articulating arm.
they are a good example how much better a prebuild laptop is compared some diy-ed solution.
a case for a laptop would be more practical, even gluing a laptop in suitcase is more useful.
You can always build a button box or custom sensors from a Arduino and that plug into the computer.
reflections of a future some magazines kind of promised to us but never happened, they are nostalgia shit, and all nostalgia shit has a ton of bullshit on it.
So if one shift key broke you can't turn it on?
Cyberdecks are super weird to me.
I absolutely hate laptop batteries, and laptop screens are also never bright enough.
Additionally the batteries are tiny these days and don't last.
I would really like a custom laptop with a mechanical, split ego keyboard (maybe with a cool fold out mechanism) and an ultrabright screen backlight for outdoor use.
And obviously a big fricking chunky battery so it actually lasts all day with the display pulling 30W.
I've not seen anyone build anything remotely as practical, all the cyberdecks seem to be absolute homosexualry just trying to look cool while being incredibly unpractical.
the beauty of this type of hardware is that it's all homemade so you can design and build one that suits your needs.
Yeah i'm already planning but it's weird nobody else has done a decent one yet.
>build one that suits your needs.
What do people need these for? I did a google image search to see what people are building and everything I've seen looks like it's for larping. Maybe those aren't good examples.
I'd just use a panasonic toughbook + a few fluke handhelds if I needed a kit for field work, but custom PCs are kind of neat I guess.
>What do people need these for?
I'm thinking use pic related as the shell and mount all the parts on shock absorbers. Perfect rugged laptop.
Yeah, I'd love to build a briefcase PC.
Modern laptops suck ass, I want desktop components in a somewhat portable form.
Just worried about batteries.
Is it even possible to build this with off-the-shelf components? I'm a programmer, not an electronics guy, and don't even own a soldering iron. Are there PSUs with batteries included that work with desktop motherboards, or am I fricked?
an intel nuc and a small upc might do the trick
Would be a good idea, but I kinda want ECC RAM, so that's no an option.
The ECC RAM is one of the main reasons I decided to go for desktop components instead of trying to find a laptop with ECC.
It's possible, but heavy and stupid.
Your battery life will be abysmal.
Cyberdecks shine when you go for low power components with a huge capacity battery for literally days of battery life. You're going for the opposite.
Now what you could do is give up the battery idea and just build yourself a cool "computer in a case" with the intention to be plugged in wherever you take it.
>What do people need these for?
What would be perfect for me is just a split keyboard that could connect to something like a phone in desktop mode that all just serves as a dummy terminal to a remote PC. Whenever I need to do more typing/computing than I care to do on a phone it would be nice to have a pocket sized keyboard and remote client.
Something like
https://www.slicemk.com/products/ergodox-wireless-lite?variant=41542629949614
and
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.realvnc.viewer.android
with a 3D printed frame to snap everything together
>I absolutely hate laptop batteries
those bigass cases could easily fit a car battery or two
Would be tons of fun to transport!
I want to build one. I've done some low-level beginner stuff with the Arduino
Doesn't seem like a huge or overly difficult leap to build a Raspberry Pi/Linux OS minicomputer deck.
id want one roughly in the form factor of OP pic.
>build it inside a smallish thin line pelican style laptop briefcase.
>For basic general purpose hobby computing
>with an edge towards programming, science and math applications
>OS: Linux Debian of some flavour
> basic suite of Linux based software apps
>select projects: mini weather station., SDR package. programmable math/formula solver
I think if you attach a SIM to it(with 4g or 5g connection), you can remotely connect to your desktop and voila, you have access to a beefy computer anywhere.
I've thought about building pic attached for a really long while. I am thoroughly convinced it is worthwhile but operating system and SBC choice is make or break.
interesting thought.
could we combine that with a Linux Android root OS and make our own custom PrepHole cell phone?
i really want something like this where you can type while standing and has gpio on the back but its out of stock.
maybe i should try to make one myself but its hard to find decent thumb keyboards
>but its hard to find decent thumb keyboards
those are just plastic keys glued onto whatever those blister membrane keypads are called.
Is this something that has an actual use or is it just one of those things you'd wear if you wanted people to know that you have had or want to have your dick chopped off?
It doesn't have a use. Laptops and smartphones are basically solved form factors. Very few devices that aren't a laptop or smartphone have any sort of practical application as you can do most everything on the aforementioned devices. ereaders are a decent example, as their nice screens and physical size make them far comfier to read a book on than a phone.
>Laptops and smartphones are basically solved form factors.
no. wrong. those are both proprietary specific bloated shoe horned glowngger garbage.
a cyber deck can be made to exact user preferences with limitless scalability and expansion. without the need to reverse-hack-gimp an infinite set of workarounds to get a canned prebuilt proprietary spyware laptop to do what you want it to do.
Doesn't know how to disable Bluetooth and WiFi.. either thru driver delete or hardware removals.
Wants to diy a "cyber deck"
Can't wipe and install new OS..
Not sure what your doing here, kek
the whole point
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your head
Have fun with your useless pile of junk.
Personally I'd rather repurpose something useful
Maybe you should do the wooden steampunk laptop for the street cred or whatever, just make sure you don't use any off the shelf parts or it'll be gay, bro
see
i bet you don't even know how to solder.
Kek
Probably afraid it'll have a backdoor from China..
>a cyber deck can be made to exact user preferences with limitless scalability and expansion.
Not by you because they're such a kludge they will still suck. No hardware the size of a cyberdeck is "limitless" because of construction and ergonomic constraints. How many have YOU built and with what specs and parts?
Of course they're for larping. If builders had the manhood to admit that it would be fine. The BS excuses are the homosexualry.
Not unless the components are also rugged and waterproof. Is that case at least IP65?
At what point is this better than an old Thinkpad?
The only "better" part here is if they actually worked on it instead of making bullshit like this. Fore one, if they just accepted a bigger cberdeck size, they'd be able to accept running fully auditable hardare and have a bigger battery.
I like them. Not the "Put raspi in the pelican" kind of ones, but the ones built with purpose behind them.
They tend to reflect their builders personality.
Cyberdecks fall into two categories: ones built to get updoots on reddit, and ones built for a purpose.
The latter is the type of cyberdeck I want to build, since I want a 'deck that can also act as a portable oscilloscope, waveform generator, and be generally useful for fricking around with other hobby projects.
I also want one that can bridge the gap between my phone and my laptop, so it has to be compact and portable with a good battery and physical keyboard.
Finding hardware to achieve this should be reasonably straightforward, the trick is kludging it together and programming it to work correctly. I still have a lot of learning to do, but I want a useful fricking cyberdeck even if I have to build it myself.
>portable oscilloscope, waveform generator, and be generally useful for fricking around with other hobby projects.
you can just get USB versions of all those devices and a normal-ass laptop.
this is PrepHole
the whole point is to build something yourself as a custom project.
The idea is to put everything in a convenient netbook/palmtop sized package without stupid dongles or other shit hanging off. Small, light, portable. I could probably stuff it all into something the size of a VCR tape.
the issue with that is it's only a setup which doesn't maximize its space and introduces a lot more pain points.
>that pic
Why does no one make hexagonal guns anymore? A box of 12 gauge is bulky enough without having gaps between the shells.
That's really cool and I've never seen that before. What would the the benefits be doing this?
It's polygonal rifling, by the looks. Different from cutting grooves in the barrel, less prone to fouling. The bullets and shells are still round.
https://www.americancivilwarstory.com/whitworth-rifle.html
Allowed for much greater accuracy than other rifles of the period at the cost of being more expensive to make.
These actually did use hexagonal bullets and were relatively more prone to fouling but you would be correct in regards to modern polygonal rifling applications.
That's interesting, and pretty cool. Didn't realize it was a black powder rifle, so it makes sense why it would foul up pretty quickly even compared to a regular cut rifle. Learn something new every day.
Dont all Glocks have polygonal rifling?
Quite a few guns do.
What the frick would you do with that pile of garbage?
low quality post anon
So fricking gay
I see a cyber deck and want to make the owner go tent camp outside for 3 weeks
looks kinda cool but completely impractical to actually use unless you're a larper
and by "impractical" i mean forcing yourself to do anything productive using a raspberry pi and a tiny ass screen is just silly when dirt cheap laptops from last gen are just as portable, perform better, and cost less. i still like looking at pics of them but would never make my own
A solution in search of a problem.
I was thinking of making on that goes in a case for when I want to do RF stuff but acquiring all the bits and assembling it was too much work, would be easier single handedly creating a single product.
Seems like a fun way to spend some spare parts and bits you have laying around.
I like gadgets that are abnormal, I'd make something stupider that has a receipt paper roll on it for small shitty printouts.
I'm trying to learn some basic electronics skills so I can build some shit nobody but me could possibly want. But it can't just be stupid, it must be absolute lobotomy levels of moronic.
cool and look neat but not practical and I would never own one
I just finished reading Count Zero today and Neuromancer a few days ago so that might be colouring my opinion
my laptop is one the way out so I'm considering using my phone with a keyboard plugged in to remote to my home desktop, seems more practical than this when internet speed is good and widely available
I am in the process of ordering parts for a keyboard that will ultimately contribute to a minimal and practical build resembling this concept. If the thread survives another week or two I will share. Don't get too excited.
I PREFER THE SANDI HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
what do people use to drive these? raspberry pi/SoC, or are they fitting a micro ATX in there?
Useless hipster shit
Laptops have been around for decades, “briefcase computers” are pointless now that we have computers that fit inside regular briefcases
I like them but dont have enough money
yea bro ive read neuromancer
a cyberdeck is just a pc with a neural VR device attached. so i guess you. you'd have to sign up for elon's PRIME study to get the closest thing to neural vr we have and to get on that you'd have to be sick with ALS. closest thing to a cyberdeck you can get these days as a healthy normal person is a gaming pc + a quest 3 to stream games to
whats the point of them again?