sergeant major zinc-plated .223. It caused two ARs to have a stuck case around 60-80 rounds in. It was the first ammo I had bought for my first AR, and I bought a whole case of it.
Because it's just tula. Stuff is probably great for overgassed ARs that can handle steel case, but mine and a buddy's have both jammed hard while using it.
A properly gassed rifle will have cycling issues with Tula .223. Tula is just underpowered. Lower-end rifles a la PSA M4gerys are over gassed intentionally to deal with this.
grabbed a 500rd case of 22lr for cheap, thought it was gonna be okay, was still sorta new to guns
every 5-10rds was a jam that required a pocket knife to extract
half the jams were rounds that didn't fire, the other half were ones that were just borked the frick out
only gun that could run them was a old singleshot rifle, and even then, they'd still not wanna fire
i think the cases were just completely out of spec, sometimes too thin, sometimes too thick, and the primers were also very badly done
never buy turkshit, ever
i don't remember where i placed the box, nor do i care
Ah yeah that stuff is funky. I have some 50rd boxes of the stuff and some are supersonic and some subsonic out of my silenced 10/22 w/ 18" barrel. I think it might just be on the edge of sub/supersonic for some odd reason so it changes round to round. Shame too because it shoots well and I'd love to shoot it if it all sounded as quiet as half the shots do. The 38gr is all super and has much less variation and it's quiet enough to shoot with no ear pro silenced. Lot should be on the white interior of the flap IIRC. That is, if it's the bulk box that comes in a bag inside the box and not a box full of 50rd boxes.
Whoops, what I meant to say is that I think the powder/bullet weight/burn rate/whatever vary just barely, but enough that some are super and some aren't. Speed is 1,130 FPS on them IIRC which is a whole 30 (!) FPS more than the bare minimum for supersonic. 30FPS variation in non-match ammo isn't surprising AFAIK so that explains the variation in noise.
Also I once said I wish they'd just reduce the charge a little to make it subsonic but it appears they did that and made 1025 FPS subsonics. I thought I tried that and it dropped a lot more but maybe I'll have to double check....
Lot# 020N43
I don't think it's a super/sub thing, they're listed @ 1255FPS. When I'm shooting paper the spicy ones are way outside my groups.
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Wild. Might want to send Aguila an email. I don't think you could realistically have a catastrophic failure on a modern manufactured .22 rifle (I mean look at the "hyper velocity" .22lr out there being made) but that's pretty bad QC. Never had a problem with Aguila, that's a shame.
Czechoslovak 8x57 IS remanufactured ammo using components from the 50s.
It sunk in a container and was taken out after a couple of months underwater.
Have you ever seen a three second long hangfire?
I have.
Czechoslovak 8x57 IS remanufactured ammo using components from the 50s.
It sunk in a container and was taken out after a couple of months underwater.
Have you ever seen a three second long hangfire?
I have.
lol, I didn't know other countries had garbage 8mm mauser too.
Ethiopian 8mm Mauser. Sounds exactly like the worst ammo ever made. Corrosive, dry-fires, hang-fires, steel-core.
Worst modern ammo is anything with a synthetic bullets like Federal's Syntech
Early 2000s Brown Bear "noncorrosive" .223. I fired a couple mags of that stuff and didn't clean my AR afterwards, and the barrel & chamber were rusted to frick after a little while. It was 100% corrosive. Anyone I tell this story to says "bro it's cuz you didn't clean your rifle" but I didn't clean any gun from that range session and that's the only one that rusted. Never happened to that gun with other ammo, either.
Their 9 and 45 has worked decently for me (dirty but usable), but I've heard nothing but horror stories about their .22. Still a 38 not clearing a rifle barrel is pretty bad.
honestly?
besides decades old reloads and .22lr boxes that *sometimes* had a dud, i only had in factory ammo 1 dud, a .45 speer gold dot. not using that as carry ammo anytime soon.
i shoot the CHEAPEST factory shit i can find (usually southamerican) and never had a dud except for speer gold dot.
Either a box of aluminum cased 40 from Wolf that a 96 absolutely refused to cycle, or a 1000 rounds of 45 that were a jumble of brass, 230gr bullet types, mixed primers, and too weak to reliably cycle anything. The 40 went to disposal, the 45 gets run through a Blackhawk with an ACP cylinder. It's taken the better part of a decade but I'm finally down to about 100 rounds of it.
It's a cow using tools. Likely made from shit as this is the only medium cows have in abundance and can work without tools. That's the joke. They're shitty tools made by a cow.
It's a cow using tools. Likely made from shit as this is the only medium cows have in abundance and can work without tools. That's the joke. They're shitty tools made by a cow.
Gary Larson explained what the deal was with this comic in his book The PreHistory of the Far Side:
“The cow tools were supposed to be just meaningless artifacts—only the cow or a cowthropologist is supposed to know what they’re used for.
The first mistake I made was in thinking this was funny. The second was making one of the tools resemble a crude handsaw–which made already confused people decide that their only hope in understanding the cartoon meant deciphering what the other tools were as well. Of course, they didn’t have a chance in hell.”
[...]
Gary Larson explained what the deal was with this comic in his book The PreHistory of the Far Side:
“The cow tools were supposed to be just meaningless artifacts—only the cow or a cowthropologist is supposed to know what they’re used for.
The first mistake I made was in thinking this was funny. The second was making one of the tools resemble a crude handsaw–which made already confused people decide that their only hope in understanding the cartoon meant deciphering what the other tools were as well. Of course, they didn’t have a chance in hell.”
It was pretty clear what the joke was supposed to be, but it was also clear that he had fricked up with the saw.
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The werewolf sold him the "silver" bullets.
https://i.imgur.com/ixVn6l1.png
last one, too drunk
Merry Christmas /k/
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It's a cow using tools. Likely made from shit as this is the only medium cows have in abundance and can work without tools. That's the joke. They're shitty tools made by a cow.
Winchester rebranded ammo. The Herter's .22lr 50rd red and clear plastic CCI knockoff box stuff. Not only do the headstamps look like shit, it grouped worse than anything I ever shot and one of the rounds had so little powder in it, it hit like 1' low at 50yds. That was during the beginning couple of months of the ammo shortages during covid. Oddly enough, more recently I have some of their silencer .22lr ammo that's Winchester branded and that's fine from what I've tested and all their greentip has been nothing but great.
Persian (not Iranian, it had the lion-sword-sun emblem on the crates) surplus 8x57mm mauser ammo. This stuff was dogshit. Ammo looked fine, but it was old as hell and must have not been stored properly for a long time. bought a 1000 round crate, because price was amazing, what could wrong? Only about 50% of them went bang when you pulled the trigger, 10% were just complete duds, and 40% of them would have a 2-3 second hangfire. When you did hit a dud, you'd have to lay the rifle pointing downrange for 5 minutes out of an abundance of caution. Had two rounds hangfire after 2 minutes like that. Got through maybe 50 rounds of it. Gave it away to a reloader who pulled the bullets and primers, burned the powder/primers, and then reloaded the brass. Was legitimately afraid to open the action on a dud.
We joked that it was super match ammo. You would never have to worry about your trigger pull messing up your shot because the hangfire meant you could just fix your aim after the trigger goes click.
Remington Thunderbolt back when it was literally the only 22lr I saw on a shelf back in like... 2014? It was Obama years back when boomers would go to Wal-Mart at 6am and wait for a shipment to buy out their stock.
None of it cycled my 10/22 and about half were duds. I stocked up on CCI and Federal after Trump won.
These are pretty popular here in britbong land and even we acknowledge that these are as cheap as you can go and still get a bullet to fire in most .22lr rifles. A lot of people at the club range I attend try to skip on these when there are alternative brand rounds available but, half the time, cheap wins out.
>as cheap as you can go to still get a bullet to fire in your .22
That reminds me. At one time, there was something even cheaper believe it or not. No your eyes do not deceive you. No clue if you guys ever got this stuff. I've never personally shot any.
For a while there I kept finding boxes in new colors and designs. Almost bought a 500rd box too but I had nowhere near enough money to go and blow ~$40 on a box of ammo I'll never open, which is paper wrapped and stapled shut and probably rusting away on the inside.
I almost always buy good ammo, but two that stick out in my memory are some sort of extra cheap Russian 9mm ammo which wasn't accurate and which was incredibly dirty wnd gummed up guns. The other was some Chinese .22LR from the 90s - every bullet and case was covered in a thick layer of waxy grease. And they shot dirty. These two qualities combined led to extremely dirty guns in short order.
A lot of reman pistol ammo is also pretty bad compared to factory new. It usually shoots clean, but isn't terribly accurate and stoppages which wouldn't or couldn't occur with factory new ammo are more common. It's a cheap alternative for some training applications, but it's best to inspect every cartridge as you load mags.
It was okayish for the price if you were shooting it in a single shot rifle. In the 90s you could buy as much as you wanted for less than a penny a round. Like a 500rd brick was $3. But, you could get a 500rd brick of Winchester Super-X .22 ammo for like $7, so it wasn't really worth it.
I inherited some of this utter dogshit ammo with old Kmart price labels still on them. Can't throw away, too crappy to shoot. Will have to find a sucker to sell them to.
Didn’t go ahead with buying it for obvious reasons, but I was going to get a Martini Henry with a .45 Long Colt barrel insert. The fudd selling it to me told me he’d sell me a bag of handloads for a decent price, but “You’ll have to swing by my place tomorrow and load one of them yourself. That way if one blows your gun up you can’t prove it wasn’t the one you loaded and you can’t sue me.” I’ve bought some sketchy handloads before, but I’ve never seen someone try to pull that level of legal israelitery.
Challenger 12GA target load. It's leafshit, I don't know if you can get it down in the States. It's so fricking putrid that my Super Nova gagged on almost ever round and I had to mortar it open over and over again. I've never had a single other shell cycle less than flawlessly in that gun
God only knows. Supposedly their buckshot and slugs are decent, but I'm not giving them another chance with ammo being as fricking expensive as it is nowadays
God only knows. Supposedly their buckshot and slugs are decent, but I'm not giving them another chance with ammo being as fricking expensive as it is nowadays
>Supposedly their buckshot and slugs are decent
Nah, their buckshot is the worst ammo ive ever bought. the crimping was so poor that the top of the rounds were hexagon shaped, which caused constant hangups as they would snag on the edge of the chamber.
That sounds like a you problem I'm afraid. Feeds flawlessly in my Rem 1100 and I know many leafs who use it in semis without issue.
I know how to run a pump action, and if a Benelli can't eat it, there's a problem with it. If you're using it in a semi auto then they must have gotten their shit together pretty recently
This shit. I bought several boxes and each one had 5 or more duds in it. I'm talking full on hard hit primer strikes, in a gun that has never had an issue with any other ammunition before or since.
I should probably have found a batch number or something at let Federal know but I suspected they wouldn't have given a frick.
Seconded. Fricking 10 duds in a 50 round box and the rest kept having every sort of feed, chambering, extraction, and ejection problem you could experience. Fricking American corporations man. Gut all cost and ship the most absolute garbage out to customers.
As a yuro it can be tough getting ammo. The only .357 the dealer had in was Fiocchi 357 SWC.
I try and use it in my lever action. The stepped bullet keeps hitting the chamber and getting jammed. Oh okay well I'll use it in my 686. Well frick you, its rated out of a 20 inch barrel so out of a 6 inch revolver its smokey, messy and velocity goes to shit. Some guy at the range loads his own .357 so he gave me what I had paid so he could pull them and load them how he wanted.
9mm Liberty CD
Got 3 boxes to give it a spin since it was such funny meme sounding ammo. Maybe it's even cool I dunno, never got a chance to find out though because all of it turned out to have a lot of defective primers they did a recall on like 3 months later because like 1/3 of them would fricking fire. Did a return with what I had left, off it went, delivery guy stole the ammo in the return shipment, that was that lol. I use Underwood for EDC now.
Winchester White Box 9x19
LGS had a sale on 250 rounds, figured it was worth taking them for a spin. Nope. Had about a dozen ftf's that required a second or even a third strike to go off. And two straight duds. Never again.
Thunderturds have been mentioned.
Winchester Varmint HE 22lr. Less accurate than Thunderturds out of all my 22's. But more reliable ignition than Thunderturds. Not that it matters because you're probably not going to hit what you're aiming at which is absolutely inexcusable in ammo marketed for hunting purposes.
Norma "Eco Speed" 22lr. I bought some on a lark because I found the idea of a 24 grain projectile going 1700 fps (so they claim) to be amusing. It is lead free, so I'll give them that. It is also inaccurate, and I have yet to see the semi-auto firearm that will cycle while trying to eat it. And inaccurate in all my 22's, and to a degree that is inexcusable in ammo marketed for hunting purposes.
The ecospeed is a bolt action only ammo, my 10/22 hates it but the ruger American eats it up without an issue. You're not wrong about it being inaccurate though. It's in the "steel only" pile of ammo. Frankly I'm amazed anyone has luck with winchester 22, I get between a 10-20% failure rate, be it feeding, ignition, or ejection with that crap in all my 22s.
>The ecospeed is a bolt action only ammo
In practice, yes.
But according to Norma : (https://www.norma-ammunition.com/en-us/products/dedicated-hunting/rimfire/norma-eco/norma-eco-speed-22)
"
Copper-plated solid zinc bullet for hunting and plinking
100% lead free: lead-free primer and lead-free bullet
Outstanding effect thanks to up to 58% higher velocity than standard
Suitable for rifles and semiautomatic firearms
Caliber: .22 long rifle
Zinc bullet, 1.6 g, V0 520 m/sec (barrel length: 65 cm)
"
Wolf 308. Shit either has excessively hard primers or all the rounds are duds, three of em didn't want to fire from my gats. At least that box was just for testing and boy did it fail
Worst: bought an entire case of Norinco 9mm. The primers would literally fall out of it when fired, sometimes jamming the gun.
Second place: the gun club I used to belong to had a rimfire match with some particular brand of ammo, "711" was the trademark. It looks like that's a Federal sub-brand. Anyway, about one round out of five was undercharged. I'd get a "bang! bang! pffft, bang! bang!" with four reasonably-grouped holes and one six inches down the paper, every fricking target.
Dishonorable mention: the Russian 9x18 for the Makarov *stank*. It was like they mixed literal dogshit with the gunpowder or something. Worked fine, but holy crap.
I almost always buy good ammo, but two that stick out in my memory are some sort of extra cheap Russian 9mm ammo which wasn't accurate and which was incredibly dirty wnd gummed up guns. The other was some Chinese .22LR from the 90s - every bullet and case was covered in a thick layer of waxy grease. And they shot dirty. These two qualities combined led to extremely dirty guns in short order.
A lot of reman pistol ammo is also pretty bad compared to factory new. It usually shoots clean, but isn't terribly accurate and stoppages which wouldn't or couldn't occur with factory new ammo are more common. It's a cheap alternative for some training applications, but it's best to inspect every cartridge as you load mags.
Ammo Inc.
Had their .38 spl squib in my 2” model 10. Then their customer service stopped responding to me when I tried to get a refund. Won’t touch that shit again.
This thread reminds me, has anyone ever bought this Romanian 7.62x39 ammo? Green sealant on the primer and case mouth. Not a single fricking review shows accuracy, they're just BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANG "YEAH WOW IT SHOOTS HAHAHA LOL I LOVE SHOOTING THE BERM" BANGBANGBANGBANG. And none of them mention if it's corrosive or not. But at $0.50+ CPR for 700 rounds of 7.62x39 there's no fricking way I'm buying either way. I want to shoot my SKS, maybe work on my AK, and I'm looking at a MAK but with the little ammo I have left it sucks.
I haven't bought that many different 5.56/.223 yet but I got like 100 rounds of AAC 55g 556 and it literally put my gun on single shot and would occasionally FTE and then slam the next round into the spent case, either shoving it into the roof and jamming the shit out of it OR actually DEPRESSING THE BULLET into the case
I even put a PSA bolt in the my rifle, which is the company that owns AAC ammo, and it was doing the same shit with ONLY that ammo. I switched to 55g American Eagle 556 and 30 round mags ran through, and a few mags of PPU 55g 556 and again 30 rounds, I think it failed to lock the bolt back once that was all.
Ive even found a few threads on the internet basically describing the exact same thing including the rounds squishing into the casing.. great fricking ammo. Upon inspection of the casings that FTE it looks like they're all marred and scratched to shit, it feels like the heat treatment on the brass sucks and its too soft? idk
Worst ammo I've ever shot was some Greek surplus from the 1930s. It was just plain worn out. Hangfires, duds, cracked cases everywhere. When it did fire it was horribly inconsistent and inaccurate. That shouldn't have been surprising given it's age, but I had just sourced an FN-49 and needed something to shoot out of it. Ended up with 700rds of plinking 8mm only suitable for use out of a bolt action.
Winchester white box 9mm. Shot my beretta for the first time with it and it jammed every few rounds. Granted I did not oil my gun so maybe that was the cause but still.
Is White box generally good or is it universally crap?
Bulk Aguila .22 that every store was shilling a year ago. The stuff has some sort of coating on it that cakes up in the action and chamber requiring an insane amount of cleanup after shooting more than ten rounds. It actually interfered with the slide closing fully on an M&P 22.
sergeant major zinc-plated .223. It caused two ARs to have a stuck case around 60-80 rounds in. It was the first ammo I had bought for my first AR, and I bought a whole case of it.
>zinc plated
Why is this the first time I've heard of this?
Because it's just tula. Stuff is probably great for overgassed ARs that can handle steel case, but mine and a buddy's have both jammed hard while using it.
Huh. With all the steel-case available on the market you would think that manufacturers would calibrate their rifles for it.
They do, AR15s at least,by gaping the gas port.
A properly gassed rifle will have cycling issues with Tula .223. Tula is just underpowered. Lower-end rifles a la PSA M4gerys are over gassed intentionally to deal with this.
My buddy bought a gallon ziplock bag full of 9mm reloads off some Mexican in a trailer park. Every single one caused a malfunction of some kind
Probably full of cocaine or fentanyl.
grabbed a 500rd case of 22lr for cheap, thought it was gonna be okay, was still sorta new to guns
every 5-10rds was a jam that required a pocket knife to extract
half the jams were rounds that didn't fire, the other half were ones that were just borked the frick out
only gun that could run them was a old singleshot rifle, and even then, they'd still not wanna fire
i think the cases were just completely out of spec, sometimes too thin, sometimes too thick, and the primers were also very badly done
never buy turkshit, ever
i don't remember where i placed the box, nor do i care
One of my current 250 count boxes of Aguila 22lr has random spicy loads in it. I won't buy it again.
Lot number? I use tons of that shit for hunting and range use. 38gr. Or is it the white and blue box 40gr?
40gr super extra copper plated. Don't see a lot # on the box.
Ah yeah that stuff is funky. I have some 50rd boxes of the stuff and some are supersonic and some subsonic out of my silenced 10/22 w/ 18" barrel. I think it might just be on the edge of sub/supersonic for some odd reason so it changes round to round. Shame too because it shoots well and I'd love to shoot it if it all sounded as quiet as half the shots do. The 38gr is all super and has much less variation and it's quiet enough to shoot with no ear pro silenced. Lot should be on the white interior of the flap IIRC. That is, if it's the bulk box that comes in a bag inside the box and not a box full of 50rd boxes.
Whoops, what I meant to say is that I think the powder/bullet weight/burn rate/whatever vary just barely, but enough that some are super and some aren't. Speed is 1,130 FPS on them IIRC which is a whole 30 (!) FPS more than the bare minimum for supersonic. 30FPS variation in non-match ammo isn't surprising AFAIK so that explains the variation in noise.
Also I once said I wish they'd just reduce the charge a little to make it subsonic but it appears they did that and made 1025 FPS subsonics. I thought I tried that and it dropped a lot more but maybe I'll have to double check....
Lot# 020N43
I don't think it's a super/sub thing, they're listed @ 1255FPS. When I'm shooting paper the spicy ones are way outside my groups.
Wild. Might want to send Aguila an email. I don't think you could realistically have a catastrophic failure on a modern manufactured .22 rifle (I mean look at the "hyper velocity" .22lr out there being made) but that's pretty bad QC. Never had a problem with Aguila, that's a shame.
I started out the same but learned the hard way: for .22LR I only use CCI. Everything else can sod off.
Czechoslovak 8x57 IS remanufactured ammo using components from the 50s.
It sunk in a container and was taken out after a couple of months underwater.
Have you ever seen a three second long hangfire?
I have.
The Ethiopian 8x57 I have from 1954 does the same thing in my M48. Fun!
lol, I didn't know other countries had garbage 8mm mauser too.
I saw a 3 second hangfire with some Turkish 8mm Mauser ammo a few times
Sounds like a fun way to convert a mauser to a matchlock
Ethiopian 8mm Mauser. Sounds exactly like the worst ammo ever made. Corrosive, dry-fires, hang-fires, steel-core.
Worst modern ammo is anything with a synthetic bullets like Federal's Syntech
>Ethiopian 8mm Mauser
That sounds as good as egyptian whiskey...
>federal syntech
>worst ammo
Do you own a silencer?
Early 2000s Brown Bear "noncorrosive" .223. I fired a couple mags of that stuff and didn't clean my AR afterwards, and the barrel & chamber were rusted to frick after a little while. It was 100% corrosive. Anyone I tell this story to says "bro it's cuz you didn't clean your rifle" but I didn't clean any gun from that range session and that's the only one that rusted. Never happened to that gun with other ammo, either.
Pic related in a Glock; had to poundt the stuck casing out of the ejection port.
I had like 5 primers pop in the same box of tula 38spl.
For me, I've been unhappy with 2 ammo purchases.
American Eagle Red Box just seems to run super dirty.
"x"m855, was all dented and beat to shit. Apparently the "X" means rejected?
I've been pretty okay with every other ammo I've ever bought.
Armscor .38. So weak it won't leave my Winchester 1873's barrel.
>buying flip ammo
Their 9 and 45 has worked decently for me (dirty but usable), but I've heard nothing but horror stories about their .22. Still a 38 not clearing a rifle barrel is pretty bad.
Oh, so close!
Winchester white box 22lr
Yup
Had one shear at the rim and blow out backwards, sent my extractor halfway to Mexico
Norma .308, 2 or 3 rounds out of 10 will have the primers seated too far forward for my guns and not fire.
Lately, PMC .45 ACP 230 gr just not wants to feed in my 1911s. The OAL length just doesn’t work for my para ramped .45s and my Wilson Combat.
>buy a box of buffalo bore
>its actually a box of some strangely marked handloads and a few rounds of 45 SUPER
Free to a good home btw
I'll take them.
I'm currently working on both 45 Super and 40 Super.
Fire it and see what happens
Send email pls
mods are asleep post gary larson
inb4 he sues me
Doing God's work, anon. Bless you.
have a PLIF
that font.. oldschool macintosh
God, was the rest of it not funny?
I remember it spiraled into depressed mayhem as the GWOT kicked off.
>Traded a yugo mauser for some steelcase .223 & cash
>Constant failures to fire and failures to feed
>Broke my extractor
Would not recommend.
elbows off the tables at Christmas dinner 🙂
serbian 9mm
>ordered 9mm once fired brass reloads
>"ah cool this is all brand new ammo"
>1/5 FTF
hard primers
things were smokin hot for 115s tho
Magtech .308 and Geco 7.62x39
Might as well throw them at the target by hand
Geco 9mm has always been excellent for me. No fails, tight groups, high end velocity, good brass.
Magtech has always been very underpowered.
honestly?
besides decades old reloads and .22lr boxes that *sometimes* had a dud, i only had in factory ammo 1 dud, a .45 speer gold dot. not using that as carry ammo anytime soon.
i shoot the CHEAPEST factory shit i can find (usually southamerican) and never had a dud except for speer gold dot.
Not a good comic, polar bears are only at the north pole and penguins are only at the south. The bear should be a leopard seal or something
Sus
I had a professor/mentor in college that always looped these into presentation.
Did something similar during highschool, what are we sneaking a gag slide during a presentation
SCREW THE LIMIT
Either a box of aluminum cased 40 from Wolf that a 96 absolutely refused to cycle, or a 1000 rounds of 45 that were a jumble of brass, 230gr bullet types, mixed primers, and too weak to reliably cycle anything. The 40 went to disposal, the 45 gets run through a Blackhawk with an ACP cylinder. It's taken the better part of a decade but I'm finally down to about 100 rounds of it.
300blk subs from Freedom weren't crimped tight enough and they keyholed. Their 9mm has been perfect though, dare I say accurate.
last one, too drunk
Merry Christmas /k/
Merry Xmas, Anon. Was there ever an explanation for that cartoon?
It's a cow using tools. Likely made from shit as this is the only medium cows have in abundance and can work without tools. That's the joke. They're shitty tools made by a cow.
Gary Larson explained what the deal was with this comic in his book The PreHistory of the Far Side:
“The cow tools were supposed to be just meaningless artifacts—only the cow or a cowthropologist is supposed to know what they’re used for.
The first mistake I made was in thinking this was funny. The second was making one of the tools resemble a crude handsaw–which made already confused people decide that their only hope in understanding the cartoon meant deciphering what the other tools were as well. Of course, they didn’t have a chance in hell.”
I have that book and remember that toon well
It was a bit of a cow riddle til I saw his explanation...
It is funny, and knowing how many people were confused - angered, even - by it just makes it funnier.
It was pretty clear what the joke was supposed to be, but it was also clear that he had fricked up with the saw.
I don't get it
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The werewolf sold him the "silver" bullets.
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The spiders are trying to catch a kid.
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Where do you think boneless chicken comes from?
Classic
The mistake was making them too much like tools.
Winchester rebranded ammo. The Herter's .22lr 50rd red and clear plastic CCI knockoff box stuff. Not only do the headstamps look like shit, it grouped worse than anything I ever shot and one of the rounds had so little powder in it, it hit like 1' low at 50yds. That was during the beginning couple of months of the ammo shortages during covid. Oddly enough, more recently I have some of their silencer .22lr ammo that's Winchester branded and that's fine from what I've tested and all their greentip has been nothing but great.
Wincester white box 22LR. Shit accuracy and about 2% duds.
Persian (not Iranian, it had the lion-sword-sun emblem on the crates) surplus 8x57mm mauser ammo. This stuff was dogshit. Ammo looked fine, but it was old as hell and must have not been stored properly for a long time. bought a 1000 round crate, because price was amazing, what could wrong? Only about 50% of them went bang when you pulled the trigger, 10% were just complete duds, and 40% of them would have a 2-3 second hangfire. When you did hit a dud, you'd have to lay the rifle pointing downrange for 5 minutes out of an abundance of caution. Had two rounds hangfire after 2 minutes like that. Got through maybe 50 rounds of it. Gave it away to a reloader who pulled the bullets and primers, burned the powder/primers, and then reloaded the brass. Was legitimately afraid to open the action on a dud.
We joked that it was super match ammo. You would never have to worry about your trigger pull messing up your shot because the hangfire meant you could just fix your aim after the trigger goes click.
I'm just replying because I thought this was a good reply and it didn't have replies of its own.
I made the same mistake. My batch of 250 I think only ten actually shot and the rest were duds.
Remington Thunderbolt back when it was literally the only 22lr I saw on a shelf back in like... 2014? It was Obama years back when boomers would go to Wal-Mart at 6am and wait for a shipment to buy out their stock.
None of it cycled my 10/22 and about half were duds. I stocked up on CCI and Federal after Trump won.
These are pretty popular here in britbong land and even we acknowledge that these are as cheap as you can go and still get a bullet to fire in most .22lr rifles. A lot of people at the club range I attend try to skip on these when there are alternative brand rounds available but, half the time, cheap wins out.
>as cheap as you can go to still get a bullet to fire in your .22
That reminds me. At one time, there was something even cheaper believe it or not. No your eyes do not deceive you. No clue if you guys ever got this stuff. I've never personally shot any.
>steel case .22
Lmao. What the frick.
For a while there I kept finding boxes in new colors and designs. Almost bought a 500rd box too but I had nowhere near enough money to go and blow ~$40 on a box of ammo I'll never open, which is paper wrapped and stapled shut and probably rusting away on the inside.
The Junior is what I was referring to in
It was okayish for the price if you were shooting it in a single shot rifle. In the 90s you could buy as much as you wanted for less than a penny a round. Like a 500rd brick was $3. But, you could get a 500rd brick of Winchester Super-X .22 ammo for like $7, so it wasn't really worth it.
I inherited some of this utter dogshit ammo with old Kmart price labels still on them. Can't throw away, too crappy to shoot. Will have to find a sucker to sell them to.
Didn’t go ahead with buying it for obvious reasons, but I was going to get a Martini Henry with a .45 Long Colt barrel insert. The fudd selling it to me told me he’d sell me a bag of handloads for a decent price, but “You’ll have to swing by my place tomorrow and load one of them yourself. That way if one blows your gun up you can’t prove it wasn’t the one you loaded and you can’t sue me.” I’ve bought some sketchy handloads before, but I’ve never seen someone try to pull that level of legal israelitery.
Challenger 12GA target load. It's leafshit, I don't know if you can get it down in the States. It's so fricking putrid that my Super Nova gagged on almost ever round and I had to mortar it open over and over again. I've never had a single other shell cycle less than flawlessly in that gun
>absolutely fricking beautiful transparent hulls
>use them to make garbage ammo
For what fricking reason?
God only knows. Supposedly their buckshot and slugs are decent, but I'm not giving them another chance with ammo being as fricking expensive as it is nowadays
>Supposedly their buckshot and slugs are decent
Nah, their buckshot is the worst ammo ive ever bought. the crimping was so poor that the top of the rounds were hexagon shaped, which caused constant hangups as they would snag on the edge of the chamber.
Sounds about it right. Pathetic
I know how to run a pump action, and if a Benelli can't eat it, there's a problem with it. If you're using it in a semi auto then they must have gotten their shit together pretty recently
That sounds like a you problem I'm afraid. Feeds flawlessly in my Rem 1100 and I know many leafs who use it in semis without issue.
This shit. I bought several boxes and each one had 5 or more duds in it. I'm talking full on hard hit primer strikes, in a gun that has never had an issue with any other ammunition before or since.
I should probably have found a batch number or something at let Federal know but I suspected they wouldn't have given a frick.
Winchester Steel case 9mm its fricking disgusting and makes everything feel like shit. I would call it the bottom of the fricking barrel.
Seconded. Fricking 10 duds in a 50 round box and the rest kept having every sort of feed, chambering, extraction, and ejection problem you could experience. Fricking American corporations man. Gut all cost and ship the most absolute garbage out to customers.
this is the best ammo for malfunction training
How many people have actually had good experiences with that crap?
Slip in a round or two in a mag for practice and voila
Winchester forged steel case 9mm. Absolutely dog shit ammo.
As a yuro it can be tough getting ammo. The only .357 the dealer had in was Fiocchi 357 SWC.
I try and use it in my lever action. The stepped bullet keeps hitting the chamber and getting jammed. Oh okay well I'll use it in my 686. Well frick you, its rated out of a 20 inch barrel so out of a 6 inch revolver its smokey, messy and velocity goes to shit. Some guy at the range loads his own .357 so he gave me what I had paid so he could pull them and load them how he wanted.
9mm Liberty CD
Got 3 boxes to give it a spin since it was such funny meme sounding ammo. Maybe it's even cool I dunno, never got a chance to find out though because all of it turned out to have a lot of defective primers they did a recall on like 3 months later because like 1/3 of them would fricking fire. Did a return with what I had left, off it went, delivery guy stole the ammo in the return shipment, that was that lol. I use Underwood for EDC now.
Your delivery guy will appreciate that.
Winchester White Box 9x19
LGS had a sale on 250 rounds, figured it was worth taking them for a spin. Nope. Had about a dozen ftf's that required a second or even a third strike to go off. And two straight duds. Never again.
Thunderturds have been mentioned.
Winchester Varmint HE 22lr. Less accurate than Thunderturds out of all my 22's. But more reliable ignition than Thunderturds. Not that it matters because you're probably not going to hit what you're aiming at which is absolutely inexcusable in ammo marketed for hunting purposes.
Norma "Eco Speed" 22lr. I bought some on a lark because I found the idea of a 24 grain projectile going 1700 fps (so they claim) to be amusing. It is lead free, so I'll give them that. It is also inaccurate, and I have yet to see the semi-auto firearm that will cycle while trying to eat it. And inaccurate in all my 22's, and to a degree that is inexcusable in ammo marketed for hunting purposes.
The ecospeed is a bolt action only ammo, my 10/22 hates it but the ruger American eats it up without an issue. You're not wrong about it being inaccurate though. It's in the "steel only" pile of ammo. Frankly I'm amazed anyone has luck with winchester 22, I get between a 10-20% failure rate, be it feeding, ignition, or ejection with that crap in all my 22s.
>The ecospeed is a bolt action only ammo
In practice, yes.
But according to Norma : (https://www.norma-ammunition.com/en-us/products/dedicated-hunting/rimfire/norma-eco/norma-eco-speed-22)
"
Copper-plated solid zinc bullet for hunting and plinking
100% lead free: lead-free primer and lead-free bullet
Outstanding effect thanks to up to 58% higher velocity than standard
Suitable for rifles and semiautomatic firearms
Caliber: .22 long rifle
Zinc bullet, 1.6 g, V0 520 m/sec (barrel length: 65 cm)
"
"new" production Romanian 8mm, the stuff with the green sealant. Half of the cases are formed wrong and will not fit in any chamber.
Wolf 308. Shit either has excessively hard primers or all the rounds are duds, three of em didn't want to fire from my gats. At least that box was just for testing and boy did it fail
Posting best Farside
I always liked the "bobbing for poodles" one (which he decided after much thought about the inevitable protests to not call it "bobbing for babies").
Anything PPU. The .303 doesn't even end up on paper and the 7mm Maus had 2 duds in a box of 20.
Worst: bought an entire case of Norinco 9mm. The primers would literally fall out of it when fired, sometimes jamming the gun.
Second place: the gun club I used to belong to had a rimfire match with some particular brand of ammo, "711" was the trademark. It looks like that's a Federal sub-brand. Anyway, about one round out of five was undercharged. I'd get a "bang! bang! pffft, bang! bang!" with four reasonably-grouped holes and one six inches down the paper, every fricking target.
Dishonorable mention: the Russian 9x18 for the Makarov *stank*. It was like they mixed literal dogshit with the gunpowder or something. Worked fine, but holy crap.
>Norinco
>The primers would literally fall out of it when fired
Based Chinks win again
I almost always buy good ammo, but two that stick out in my memory are some sort of extra cheap Russian 9mm ammo which wasn't accurate and which was incredibly dirty wnd gummed up guns. The other was some Chinese .22LR from the 90s - every bullet and case was covered in a thick layer of waxy grease. And they shot dirty. These two qualities combined led to extremely dirty guns in short order.
A lot of reman pistol ammo is also pretty bad compared to factory new. It usually shoots clean, but isn't terribly accurate and stoppages which wouldn't or couldn't occur with factory new ammo are more common. It's a cheap alternative for some training applications, but it's best to inspect every cartridge as you load mags.
Ammo Inc.
Had their .38 spl squib in my 2” model 10. Then their customer service stopped responding to me when I tried to get a refund. Won’t touch that shit again.
This thread reminds me, has anyone ever bought this Romanian 7.62x39 ammo? Green sealant on the primer and case mouth. Not a single fricking review shows accuracy, they're just BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANG "YEAH WOW IT SHOOTS HAHAHA LOL I LOVE SHOOTING THE BERM" BANGBANGBANGBANG. And none of them mention if it's corrosive or not. But at $0.50+ CPR for 700 rounds of 7.62x39 there's no fricking way I'm buying either way. I want to shoot my SKS, maybe work on my AK, and I'm looking at a MAK but with the little ammo I have left it sucks.
I haven't bought that many different 5.56/.223 yet but I got like 100 rounds of AAC 55g 556 and it literally put my gun on single shot and would occasionally FTE and then slam the next round into the spent case, either shoving it into the roof and jamming the shit out of it OR actually DEPRESSING THE BULLET into the case
I even put a PSA bolt in the my rifle, which is the company that owns AAC ammo, and it was doing the same shit with ONLY that ammo. I switched to 55g American Eagle 556 and 30 round mags ran through, and a few mags of PPU 55g 556 and again 30 rounds, I think it failed to lock the bolt back once that was all.
Ive even found a few threads on the internet basically describing the exact same thing including the rounds squishing into the casing.. great fricking ammo. Upon inspection of the casings that FTE it looks like they're all marred and scratched to shit, it feels like the heat treatment on the brass sucks and its too soft? idk
Never buy ZSR their 9mm had jams and light primer strikes across 4 different handguns for me.
Worst ammo I've ever shot was some Greek surplus from the 1930s. It was just plain worn out. Hangfires, duds, cracked cases everywhere. When it did fire it was horribly inconsistent and inaccurate. That shouldn't have been surprising given it's age, but I had just sourced an FN-49 and needed something to shoot out of it. Ended up with 700rds of plinking 8mm only suitable for use out of a bolt action.
Winchester white box 9mm. Shot my beretta for the first time with it and it jammed every few rounds. Granted I did not oil my gun so maybe that was the cause but still.
Is White box generally good or is it universally crap?
Winchester White Box is some pretty filthy ammo, if memory serves. Winchester NATO is probably higher quality, and definitely runs hotter.
It's probably just the higher pressure. Everything is cleaner at higher pressures.
Magtech 22lr
I once saw a guy selling loaded AR drums with .50 Beowolf labelled "SE2" for Silver Every 2.
wtf does that even mean?
Bulk Aguila .22 that every store was shilling a year ago. The stuff has some sort of coating on it that cakes up in the action and chamber requiring an insane amount of cleanup after shooting more than ten rounds. It actually interfered with the slide closing fully on an M&P 22.
>requires cleanup after shooting more than ten rounds
git gud anon
t. shoots it silenced in my 10/22