>+10 range and accuracy >Increaed crit chance
Non meme answer, so you can see what your shooting better.
Shooting slugs at game or Turkey, where you only get one shot, and most of the target is obscured by vegetation.
You could put it in the shell but it wouldn't fly very far and probably wouldn't even make it to the target, particles of salt and pepper have even shittier ballistics than roundball shot. Maybe big rock salt?
One of those high speed video channels tried rock salt in a shotgun shell. The salt broke apart and scattered into nothingness.
There might be room for a lot of experimentation though. Use really cushy wads and filler, slow velocities with slow burning powders, and different salts. It might work with a saboted salt slug.
>Use really cushy wads and filler, slow velocities with slow burning powders
that would probably help. I bet adding buffer like people do with buckshot or large sizes of birdshot would help too. The type of salt would likely matter as well, I bet those big pellets used for water softeners would be good. They are quite hard.
No, however minced garlic, onion, rosemary, and mustard seed have far better ballistic and flavor effect over salt and pepper, making them ideal for seasoning loads
No, however minced garlic, onion, rosemary, and mustard seed have far better ballistic and flavor effect over salt and pepper, making them ideal for seasoning loads
This, really. They're good for when you're pretending your shotgun is a rifle and you're shooting it at relatively stationary targets at distance. Shooting turkeys or hunting with slugs favors a scope. But for the most common uses of a shotgun--point shooting at fast moving things like birds, squirrels, rabbits, clays--scope sucks.
Same reason you'd put a scope on a rifle. What kind of question is this?
That *IS* the question though. If the application is one that might call for a rifle, then why are you using the shotgun?
>If the application is one that might call for a rifle, then why are you using the shotgun?
Hunting with a centerfire rifle at all is illegal in Illinois, Iowa, Ohio, Indiana, Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Delaware, Maine, and Rhode Island
I'm pretty sure that creates a strong enough market distortion to fund innovation and production in cope slug guns for years to come
Shit, look at the much narrower moron legal regime that allows .350 Legend to exist
They're certainly cool. And they're ballistically similar to a Brown Bess, Charleville, or other musket of that era with a similar weight projectile and similar muzzle velocity.
Slug guns aren't even that bad.
There's a vid on YT I saw of a guy taking a deer with one of those now rare Remington 870 Sabot shooters from about 170yds across a field.
Hunting with a center-fire cartridge is completely legal in Maine. Almost everyone here uses .30-06 exclusively for deer. I don't know where you heard that.
You do know that shotguns are still accurate at 100+ yards? Life isn't vidya. And while irons are also still viable at range if your eyes aren't shit, most people have nonperfect vision.
Plenty of reasons for someone to want to see better when shooting within slug range, and even within birdshot range.
Camouflaged target (eg brown animals)
Partially obscured target (eg grass)
Worse than average eyes (eg half of people)
Last time I asked questions about shotgun scopes on /k/, fifteen anons screamed at my ass in anger, telling me to use beads and go frick myself. Leggit I guess, but I still own à 24" rifled barrel shotgun and don't know what optic to put on it.
I snagged this off of eBay but it's an older model that seems harder to get now.
Leupold makes this as well which seems to be the current generation. https://www.leupold.com/vx-freedom-3-9x40-muzzleloader-ultimateslam-riflescope
I have the one in pic related mounted on a cantilevered barrel for my 870.
You probably should have explained that it was specifically for a slug gun. This is the exception rather than the rule so it's kinda important to point it out. Scope makes total sense for slugs, especially one that has marks you can use for holdover. Even with a scope slugs have a seriously rainbow trajectory and they aren't much good beyond 150 yards so you clearly don't need high power. LVPO or something like 2-7 or 3-9 would be plenty.
rifled barrels + sabots give near rifle like accuracy (breety good)
slugs + scope to increase the chance of proper shot placement
looks cool
full chokes/ super fullchokes turkey hunting
So you can see things that are far away closer dumass
I'd rather use a laser instead of a scope.
>+10 range and accuracy
>Increaed crit chance
Non meme answer, so you can see what your shooting better.
Shooting slugs at game or Turkey, where you only get one shot, and most of the target is obscured by vegetation.
I don't mean shooting slugs at Turkey before some autist starts correcting me
But that's based
Could you theorethicaly hand load some salt and pepper in the shell instead of buckshot to pre-season the turkey?
You could put it in the shell but it wouldn't fly very far and probably wouldn't even make it to the target, particles of salt and pepper have even shittier ballistics than roundball shot. Maybe big rock salt?
One of those high speed video channels tried rock salt in a shotgun shell. The salt broke apart and scattered into nothingness.
There might be room for a lot of experimentation though. Use really cushy wads and filler, slow velocities with slow burning powders, and different salts. It might work with a saboted salt slug.
>Use really cushy wads and filler, slow velocities with slow burning powders
that would probably help. I bet adding buffer like people do with buckshot or large sizes of birdshot would help too. The type of salt would likely matter as well, I bet those big pellets used for water softeners would be good. They are quite hard.
You want alternative shot and seasoning shells
No, however minced garlic, onion, rosemary, and mustard seed have far better ballistic and flavor effect over salt and pepper, making them ideal for seasoning loads
I sense an upcoming Paul Harrell video
Based chefposters
This, really. They're good for when you're pretending your shotgun is a rifle and you're shooting it at relatively stationary targets at distance. Shooting turkeys or hunting with slugs favors a scope. But for the most common uses of a shotgun--point shooting at fast moving things like birds, squirrels, rabbits, clays--scope sucks.
That *IS* the question though. If the application is one that might call for a rifle, then why are you using the shotgun?
>If the application is one that might call for a rifle, then why are you using the shotgun?
Hunting with a centerfire rifle at all is illegal in Illinois, Iowa, Ohio, Indiana, Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Delaware, Maine, and Rhode Island
I'm pretty sure that creates a strong enough market distortion to fund innovation and production in cope slug guns for years to come
Shit, look at the much narrower moron legal regime that allows .350 Legend to exist
It makes sense as a workaround for legal frickery.
I really like slug guns ackchually. They just feel like the spiritual successor to big bore muskets of old
They're certainly cool. And they're ballistically similar to a Brown Bess, Charleville, or other musket of that era with a similar weight projectile and similar muzzle velocity.
Slug guns aren't even that bad.
There's a vid on YT I saw of a guy taking a deer with one of those now rare Remington 870 Sabot shooters from about 170yds across a field.
Hunting with a center-fire cartridge is completely legal in Maine. Almost everyone here uses .30-06 exclusively for deer. I don't know where you heard that.
Sometimes rifles would work fine for a target, but the law assumes your poor judgement of backstops makes it best to limit you to shotguns.
>shooting slugs at Turkey
mf over here with an intercontinental ballistic shotgun
Same reason you'd put a scope on a rifle. What kind of question is this?
your eyes suck and, with a rifled barrel, you can shoot further than you can aim with irons
You do know that shotguns are still accurate at 100+ yards? Life isn't vidya. And while irons are also still viable at range if your eyes aren't shit, most people have nonperfect vision.
Plenty of reasons for someone to want to see better when shooting within slug range, and even within birdshot range.
Camouflaged target (eg brown animals)
Partially obscured target (eg grass)
Worse than average eyes (eg half of people)
>What's the point of putting a scope on a shotgun again?
Being able to 360 noscope at point blank range.
To look at Moxxis rack and Lilith’s ass.
Last time I asked questions about shotgun scopes on /k/, fifteen anons screamed at my ass in anger, telling me to use beads and go frick myself. Leggit I guess, but I still own à 24" rifled barrel shotgun and don't know what optic to put on it.
I snagged this off of eBay but it's an older model that seems harder to get now.
Leupold makes this as well which seems to be the current generation. https://www.leupold.com/vx-freedom-3-9x40-muzzleloader-ultimateslam-riflescope
I have the one in pic related mounted on a cantilevered barrel for my 870.
Use beads and frick yourself in the ass with them
You probably should have explained that it was specifically for a slug gun. This is the exception rather than the rule so it's kinda important to point it out. Scope makes total sense for slugs, especially one that has marks you can use for holdover. Even with a scope slugs have a seriously rainbow trajectory and they aren't much good beyond 150 yards so you clearly don't need high power. LVPO or something like 2-7 or 3-9 would be plenty.
what are rifled slugs
rifled barrels + sabots give near rifle like accuracy (breety good)
slugs + scope to increase the chance of proper shot placement
looks cool
full chokes/ super fullchokes turkey hunting
So you can see real good