A hatchet and smaller hunting knife are much more practical than a big knife.
I wish that bowie knives had all of the usefulness and durability of a hatchet in the form of a knife, but they don't.
billy is using it to hack through jungle brush on the way to their target, he's not trying to construct a shelter so he can survive for as long as possible to win the reality tv show survival prize
The bush knife is almost always accompanied by a smaller knife, the bush knife is far better then the hatchet for everything but carpentry and cutting hard wood.
You can't cut any kind of vines with a hatchet, not can you really cut things like bamboos. A hatchet has weight right up the front end which sort of precludes taking short, punching cuts.
If you were in a conifer forest you would want a hatchet.
The durability of a "machete" is a misconception, people tend to confuse the plantain machete (a farm tool for cutting cane and palm) with the shorter bush machete, the bolo and the various indigenous versions therin. This is a plantain machete
https://i.imgur.com/Xv6qQ4X.jpg
Doesn't hurt having a big hunk of metal in the jungle
, very thin, made for cutting wide arcs of soft vegitation. While plantain machetes are often used as murder weapons they aren't particularly suited to either battle or the jungle. Too long, too light.
billy is using it to hack through jungle brush on the way to their target, he's not trying to construct a shelter so he can survive for as long as possible to win the reality tv show survival prize
Thank you for the correction. I knew that I couldn't get information on the niche of big knives if I asked directly.
OP said "bowie knives" but most responses are about thick and thin machetes. Is there a keen difference between thick machetes and bowie knives?
thats a machete
it is useful in the jungle for cutting foliage out of your path
Probably he didnt even manage to land a hit. Dutch heard his screams like 5-6 seconds after he last saw him on the log bridge.
it wasn't a fight it was a sacrifice
https://i.imgur.com/GBuaIl3.jpg
Damn, I remember watching this movie when I was younger and in my memory this guy was super muscular and ripped. Now all I can comment about his physique is that he has some muscle mass but he's so fat he's abs are hidden.
Social media really fricked up my image of "muscular"
he is clearly fit but it is not roidmonkey curlbro 5% bf fit
idk, would kinda take the suspense out already knowing everyone dies at the end. It's like that horribly shitty Thing prequel where you already fricking know the outcome.
Probably he didnt even manage to land a hit. Dutch heard his screams like 5-6 seconds after he last saw him on the log bridge.
I thought he slipped and fell
What Billy did was smart from what he understood, it just wasn't enough.
He knew his enemy wanted a trophy more than anything, and so probably wouldn't shoot him from afar if he didn't shoot first because the blast would knock him off the cliff. He knew his enemy was almost invisible so he gave him only enough room to come at him from one direction. He knew he was bigger and heavier so he picked the only ground where that might be a disadvantage.
You could see him thinking it over when he saw the fallen tree, like "this is the perfect spot, it's my only chance."
That face/body type is similar to Sigourney Weaver as the pleasing aesthetics of the face are determined by bone structure instead of solely skin and fat, hence the better aging. Also, keeping fit does wonders (think Kerri Hoskins).
OP has never been in the jungle.
Last time I was innajungle I had to kill two of these foot long poisonous insects with my big knife, you can't very well shoot them.
The jungle is full of bullshit and fighting at close quarters is entirely possible, specifically at night. Crossing borders at night I've run into seven foot tall men with spears at only a metre or two distance and they were just as surprised to see me.
I sworded some kind of wild dog/wolf thing which promptly fricked off into the jungle and was probably never seen again, I sworded several snakes which I just stumbled into. If in doubt you fricking sword it, those are the rules. Border police in the table lands know that "sword" means a bandalero .
I've met both very tall people and very short people in the jungle, the natives of most regions are usually tiny.
But many groups have been driven into the jungle, be they races, tribes or lone bushmen.
These men (for there was two of them) were very dark skinned, I am 6"2 and I figure them for at least 6"6. They were thin and muscular like the African tribes and wielded what looked like spears made from rebar or iron wrapped in cloth, in the region these were status symbols of indigenous free men and could be thrown to deadly effect even against large game.
The thrown spear should never be underestimated, and a spear of solid iron has double the weight and a quarter of the sectional density. It wasn't at all uncommon to see men armed with what I can only describe as rebar plumbata, hack sawn with just the blade of a hacksaw into fanned barbs and usually thrown with elastic or a short Atl-Atl type launcher.
OP has never been in the jungle.
Last time I was innajungle I had to kill two of these foot long poisonous insects with my big knife, you can't very well shoot them.
The jungle is full of bullshit and fighting at close quarters is entirely possible, specifically at night. Crossing borders at night I've run into seven foot tall men with spears at only a metre or two distance and they were just as surprised to see me.
I sworded some kind of wild dog/wolf thing which promptly fricked off into the jungle and was probably never seen again, I sworded several snakes which I just stumbled into. If in doubt you fricking sword it, those are the rules. Border police in the table lands know that "sword" means a bandalero .
FM 90-5 is about jungle operations, it's worth reading, just for fun.
Fun fact - they don't even recommend using machetes to hack through vegetation because this makes noise. An experienced jungle-dweller can sort of slide through everything, not bending it too much and not cutting it, making much less noise.
As for machetes, there's two kinds - long, thin and light for leafy vegetation and shorter, thick and heavy for vegetation which has roots and small trees, like mangrove swamps.
While you CAN cut animals and people with it, it's most likely insects (and the disease they spread) that will get you so don't worry too much about how big it is, just make sure it matches the vegetation.
You're correct in your assessment, but for context the reason you cut vegitation is not for an individual man, it's for columns of men who are often going in single file and portering things like mortars, crates, pak guns, every livestock. The infantry take turns at the front clearing the way, while the pathfinders do all the squirming.
By the time ten men squirm through a gap, thats when it becomes faster to cut.
Often you cut somthing simply to avoid firing a gun, and to some extent that's a discipline issue. Soldiers who don't have big knives are far more inclined to panic and shoot at things they can't see, or shoot at snakes.
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Thank you for the correction. I knew that I couldn't get information on the niche of big knives if I asked directly.
OP said "bowie knives" but most responses are about thick and thin machetes. Is there a keen difference between thick machetes and bowie knives?
>Is there a keen difference between thick machetes and bowie knives?
Without getting bogged the the semantics of what constitutes one or the other, the bowie knife has a drop point which makes it useless for digging. I think the drop point is just a stabbing point which won't break if you slash with the knife, some people say it's for skinning but I don't buy it.
A machete is also almost always point heavy, which means you can deliver more force with short swings. The bowie is more like a bayonette in that it's blade heavy by dint of blade length.
The bowie tends to be shorter than a thick machete, and many bowie knives have false (unsharpened) back edge. Rarely will anyb machete have a false edge because that's where you want the weight.
I will make the pertinent observation however that many "bowie" knives of the day were actually just bolos, the drop point, false edge, and other features became exagurated in the decades when such knives became toys rather then tools
Fig.2: another bullshit poisonous animal you cut in half. These frickers try to get inside tents, sleeping bags, hammocks, boots, bags, where they then get cut in half.
> Crossing borders at night I've run into seven foot tall men with spears at only a metre or two distance and they were just as surprised to see me.
Story time
In regions with porous borders its common for people to just walk across the border to go shopping or to see their relatives, specifically for indigenous people to do this.
9/10 smuglers are native people buying cloth, metal blades, shot and powder or other frontier supplies.
For commercial reasons such trespass is usually accepted, it's not like crossing the border actually gets you closer to anything in the other country, the military usually checkpoints the national side of a frontier town and just concedes the jungle folk coming and going.
A border crossing might be a mile or 20, it might be a goat path or dense jungle. If they'res a goat path you bet I'm taking the goat path.
>Fig.1: the kind of bullshit poisonous animal you immediate cut in half.
I would humbly request you burn the e n t i r e species of whatever-the-frick-a-pede that is.
Fig.2: another bullshit poisonous animal you cut in half. These frickers try to get inside tents, sleeping bags, hammocks, boots, bags, where they then get cut in half.
Damn, I remember watching this movie when I was younger and in my memory this guy was super muscular and ripped. Now all I can comment about his physique is that he has some muscle mass but he's so fat he's abs are hidden.
Social media really fricked up my image of "muscular"
Damn, I remember watching this movie when I was younger and in my memory this guy was super muscular and ripped. Now all I can comment about his physique is that he has some muscle mass but he's so fat he's abs are hidden.
Social media really fricked up my image of "muscular"
You're basically just discovering what feminists were saying about The Beauty Myth over 30 years ago.
>an intrinsically unattainable standard that is then used to punish women physically and psychologically for their failure to achieve and conform to it
Just swap in men for women and you'll Black folk need to read Feminist literature and just substitute capitalism for patriarchy because that was the real enemy all along.
I mean, based. Yeah, I mean, people get that concept kinda wrong. One can both benefit from a system or a cultural norm AND be a victim of it at the same time. Like, for example, a king isn't truly "free", as the monarchy chains him to his duties and places nebulous, changing, yet strict expectations on him and his time. He's better of than others, sure, but a gilded cage is still a cage. Just because you've gotten comfortable on the inside doesn't mean you couldn't be better off in many ways on the outside. You're just lacking imagination or initiative to question yourself.
/autistic offtopic text-wall
Except there's a fundamental difference in psychology between men and women. Men see a guy like that and see something to aspire to, and on a deeper level a useful hunting companion. Because men are hardwired to cooperate on hunting trips with other men. You don't get jealous because there's an evolutionary advantage to other men in your group being large and muscular.
A pretty women to another woman is always competition, no exceptions. There's no evolutionary advantage to other women in your group being prettier than you.
Men are entirely capable of becoming jealous of other men, human beings are more than just a series of computer data switches where IF/OR is the only thing that matters.
I think he's making a distinction to say that a larger more muscular man could have negative value as a competitor for women but those exact same qualities would be a positive value if he was in his hunting party. Like you may not want to go around with him trying to pick up chicks if he's going to mog you, but you wouldn't be telling him that he's too strong to hunt tigers with you and your weaker friends.
>"muh evolutionary psychology" garbage
Darling, there's more to people than barebones ooga-booga brain. If you think human thought and behavior can be simplified to some mechanistic logic of imaginary reward-maximizing, then, boy, YOU are the simplistic automaton.
And, I mean, come on... If you truly can tell me you've not even once felt jealous of another man in your fricking life, let me tell you, I can point out an emotionally-disconnected shut-in for you.
Men are entirely capable of becoming jealous of other men, human beings are more than just a series of computer data switches where IF/OR is the only thing that matters.
I didn't say men NEVER felt jealousy. I said that men don't feel jealous in the same way for the same kind of things as women do. And that portraying men as muscular has a very different effect on the male psychology as portraying women as beautiful with gigantic breasts has on women.
Pretty sure most of the world runs on ooga booga. In remote villages the women crowd around me asking how long and what colour my dick is while the men sit around angrily, when I produce whiskey all the men muscle in and push the women away to get a drink, when I'm buying things every merchant says a thousand dollars in the hope I'll just hand them a thousand dollars.
In Saud and Riyad, London, Chongquing, it's the same deal. Bored housewives clambour for the dick, unemployed local men want to fight, shopkeepers want a grand for somthing that's $200 on Ebay.
Ooga booga.
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there's a whole class of South American frontier knives that are equal parts Spain and the Americas, kind of interesting to see that happen
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Bowie specifically wanted a dueling knife because sword carrying had been outlawed, and according to rumour asked a smith to make him a modified large butcher's knife, something like this >picrel
and over time it got turned into a caricature of that original idea
Its more like a cut down bayonette than a bush knife, I wouldn't carry one. My bolo was really a camp knife, but I found carrying it openly discouraged people from bothering me.
I'm not sure how to explain the relationship between LARP and how I was living, perspectives varied considerably but at the end of the day I actually did what other people would never have done.
Much like the indigenous man's spear, the bolo both serves and serves to indicate a purpose
lol if you actually touched grass you'd know that women are way less interested in physical appearance compared to men. there are likewise way more women with eating disorders/body dysmorphia compared to men.
not as far apart as you might think. the chick is toned, fit, and obviously works out. the dude no doubt works out but is also blasting tren/clen/everything he can get his hands on.
if the girl did the same she'd blow up too but they both spending similar amounts of time working out
Yeah except women have just gotten fricking obese and it would be HEALTHIER for them to chase the beauty standard more
Meanwhile bodybuilders have gotten more muscular, defined and roided up than ever to the point of health issues arising, that's not the same at all
It's not the same because muscle good and fat bad, with bodybuilding it's more "too much of a good thing"
Statistically we're up to about 40% of adults being obese and obese women have overtaken obese men, so a feminist saying "unattainable beauty standards" is delusional because beauty has just gotten worse, we haven't been "chasing the dragon" AT ALL in that area.
The other anon brought up that parallel in response to a guy saying his standards of "muscularity" have been skewed towards more mass which has been the trend but it's brought with it more intense roiding and health risks, and basically my point is that saying we've "chased good looks too far" would be valid in the conversation about performance-enhanced perfectionism being taken to it's limits, but it would NOT be valid from the feminist perspective because collectively and statistically society has actually gotten uglier and unhealthier in that regard.
The other thing about a "big" knife is that it gives you a wide flat blade which you can use for swatting things (venemous beetles), for crushing things and for digging.
You might ask: "why not a shovel" and the answer is that in the jungle the ground is full of so many roots that trying to dig is usual a waste of time, you just take cover behind trees. Shrapnel doesn't travel far because of all the trees, the jungle eats mortars and small bombs. There's a special way to dig with a machete, and all this is why your bush knife has only one edge, having only one edge means you can half- hand it and this in turn allows you to stab into the ground to dig at roots. Very hard to stab downwards if you can't half hand, and in mayer you will see this issue identified in combat as well. Single edge=half hand=leverage.
You can also batton more easily.
For those who have heard otherwise you can in fact batton with a double edged knife or bayonette, the way you do this is to get a second piece of wood as a bolster. How to hold all three? I do it with a second person in the same way a Japanese blacksmith taps, but solo you will find the blade becomes lodged after the first hit.
When they say the khukuri can "dig" what many people forget is that in the jungle "dig" means "hack through roots". The forward curve blade is perfect for this, and indeed I used a khukhri for some time before reverting to a bolo/ cutlass for reasons of weight.
FM 90-5 is about jungle operations, it's worth reading, just for fun.
Fun fact - they don't even recommend using machetes to hack through vegetation because this makes noise. An experienced jungle-dweller can sort of slide through everything, not bending it too much and not cutting it, making much less noise.
As for machetes, there's two kinds - long, thin and light for leafy vegetation and shorter, thick and heavy for vegetation which has roots and small trees, like mangrove swamps.
While you CAN cut animals and people with it, it's most likely insects (and the disease they spread) that will get you so don't worry too much about how big it is, just make sure it matches the vegetation.
Like the khukri it has the forward edge you want for digging, but the point is relatively axial. Incidentally many khukri that are neither souvenirs or status objects have a far less pronounced curve, and are closer to a bolo.
Unlike a cutlass or deck knife the bolo has a broad point, again this is mostly for digging. The reason I bring up digging so much is that the entrenching shovel is useless in the jungle, you actually NEED another digging tool.
The Fairband knife is well known, what's less widely known is that it's creator actually gave equal importance to the bolo, in part because it was the knife British conquistadors would find in the hands of the enemy, in part because the jungle is where hand to hand combat is actually realistic.
I started with a machete, quickly swapped to a bolo, and after some time with the khukhuri went back to the bolo because it was faster to unsheathe, was lighter and the axial point is important when putting body weight behind it.
This is a real (insofar as historically distinct) bowie knife. It was made by someone who would actually use it, and I guess this simply based on my experience making such knives.
You may note that it lacks the exaguration we've become accustomed to in "bowie" knife.
Smaller knives with drop points were used mainly by drunken townsfolk as pocket cutlery, pocket knives are the ones with ornate handles and exagurated forms, a cowboy couldn't afford one and would have little use for one.
The fontiersman had a homemade knife like this, the weight compensated in part for the questionable quality of the steel, I made one out of a piece of tractor plate and used bits of iron fencing wire as pins. Drilling the holes was tedious, at first I simple sawed notches in the full tang and wrapped the wire around the whole handle, tensioning it with a spoon as if it were a fence post.
As a bandelero your shit is always getting confiscated and stolen, often you live with just the clothes on your back, stealing bits of scrap metal from farms sometimes bargaining, sometimes bullying, neither a bandit nor a beggar. Usually a thief, but usually a friend.
Sometimes I was hired as a guide, or a porter, sometimes I cut firewood or dug ditches, often sent to deliver messages, sometimes sent to deliver threats. Sometimes the army would hire me, sometimes rebels would hire me, my work was less elite mercenary and more camp aid. First to go in, also first to flee.
You often saw people using the fake indochina coins as guards for their knives, because the alloy made to look like silver was soft enough to work by hand and wouldn't become sharp when struck against things.
It was also pretty common to see anything with a wire tail hammered flat into a blade, tools like trowels, or things like rigging brackets for wooden crates, you could hacksaw the loop. And hammer it into a rats tail, the village women used these crude knives for forraging. And planting tubers.
Bowie knives were almost never used by actual frontiersmen, who were better off with a machete or an axe. There's a huge mythology about them.
Bowie knives were also one of the first weapons banned in towns and cities because of the fact city dandies carried them and used them to knife each other constantly.
Like the khukri it has the forward edge you want for digging, but the point is relatively axial. Incidentally many khukri that are neither souvenirs or status objects have a far less pronounced curve, and are closer to a bolo.
Unlike a cutlass or deck knife the bolo has a broad point, again this is mostly for digging. The reason I bring up digging so much is that the entrenching shovel is useless in the jungle, you actually NEED another digging tool.
The Fairband knife is well known, what's less widely known is that it's creator actually gave equal importance to the bolo, in part because it was the knife British conquistadors would find in the hands of the enemy, in part because the jungle is where hand to hand combat is actually realistic.
I started with a machete, quickly swapped to a bolo, and after some time with the khukhuri went back to the bolo because it was faster to unsheathe, was lighter and the axial point is important when putting body weight behind it.
I've met both very tall people and very short people in the jungle, the natives of most regions are usually tiny.
But many groups have been driven into the jungle, be they races, tribes or lone bushmen.
These men (for there was two of them) were very dark skinned, I am 6"2 and I figure them for at least 6"6. They were thin and muscular like the African tribes and wielded what looked like spears made from rebar or iron wrapped in cloth, in the region these were status symbols of indigenous free men and could be thrown to deadly effect even against large game.
The thrown spear should never be underestimated, and a spear of solid iron has double the weight and a quarter of the sectional density. It wasn't at all uncommon to see men armed with what I can only describe as rebar plumbata, hack sawn with just the blade of a hacksaw into fanned barbs and usually thrown with elastic or a short Atl-Atl type launcher.
OP has never been in the jungle.
Last time I was innajungle I had to kill two of these foot long poisonous insects with my big knife, you can't very well shoot them.
The jungle is full of bullshit and fighting at close quarters is entirely possible, specifically at night. Crossing borders at night I've run into seven foot tall men with spears at only a metre or two distance and they were just as surprised to see me.
I sworded some kind of wild dog/wolf thing which promptly fricked off into the jungle and was probably never seen again, I sworded several snakes which I just stumbled into. If in doubt you fricking sword it, those are the rules. Border police in the table lands know that "sword" means a bandalero .
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there's a whole class of South American frontier knives that are equal parts Spain and the Americas, kind of interesting to see that happen
I make no judgement, literacy is not my forte.
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You're correct in your assessment, but for context the reason you cut vegitation is not for an individual man, it's for columns of men who are often going in single file and portering things like mortars, crates, pak guns, every livestock. The infantry take turns at the front clearing the way, while the pathfinders do all the squirming.
By the time ten men squirm through a gap, thats when it becomes faster to cut.
Often you cut somthing simply to avoid firing a gun, and to some extent that's a discipline issue. Soldiers who don't have big knives are far more inclined to panic and shoot at things they can't see, or shoot at snakes.
[...] >Is there a keen difference between thick machetes and bowie knives?
Without getting bogged the the semantics of what constitutes one or the other, the bowie knife has a drop point which makes it useless for digging. I think the drop point is just a stabbing point which won't break if you slash with the knife, some people say it's for skinning but I don't buy it.
A machete is also almost always point heavy, which means you can deliver more force with short swings. The bowie is more like a bayonette in that it's blade heavy by dint of blade length.
The bowie tends to be shorter than a thick machete, and many bowie knives have false (unsharpened) back edge. Rarely will anyb machete have a false edge because that's where you want the weight.
I will make the pertinent observation however that many "bowie" knives of the day were actually just bolos, the drop point, false edge, and other features became exagurated in the decades when such knives became toys rather then tools
Bowie specifically wanted a dueling knife because sword carrying had been outlawed, and according to rumour asked a smith to make him a modified large butcher's knife, something like this >picrel
and over time it got turned into a caricature of that original idea
>what he wanted already existed
Bowie was Scots-Irish, the original white trash, so would have had zero knowledge of anything other than his immediate surroundings and personal history
>for the exact same reason
not quite. "Messers" weren't made to get around anti-sword laws, what they were made for was to get around guild regulations on who could make what parts for swords. Since it didn't use the same parts as a normal sword and instead used parts like a standard knife, a messer could be made by members of a knife-grinder's guild with parts sourced from their respective fields, without stepping on the toes of and cutting business out from under the blades made by the swordsmiths guild.
Roidtrannies and cgi have ruined the natural fit look. Now fat "people" with a netflix subscription dont consider you to be in shape unless you look like alan richson
There's a difference between ignoring something because it's not a threat and randomly breaking off your attack because the target was rendered helpless by you. If you fall unconscious when the predator stabs you do you think he stops stabbing you?
The dudes in Predator were a squad of mercenaries, they could have whatever knives they wanted.
A large survival knife has a lot of utility if you expect to need to do fieldcraft for some time.
A hatchet and smaller hunting knife are much more practical than a big knife.
I wish that bowie knives had all of the usefulness and durability of a hatchet in the form of a knife, but they don't.
billy is using it to hack through jungle brush on the way to their target, he's not trying to construct a shelter so he can survive for as long as possible to win the reality tv show survival prize
The bush knife is almost always accompanied by a smaller knife, the bush knife is far better then the hatchet for everything but carpentry and cutting hard wood.
You can't cut any kind of vines with a hatchet, not can you really cut things like bamboos. A hatchet has weight right up the front end which sort of precludes taking short, punching cuts.
If you were in a conifer forest you would want a hatchet.
The durability of a "machete" is a misconception, people tend to confuse the plantain machete (a farm tool for cutting cane and palm) with the shorter bush machete, the bolo and the various indigenous versions therin. This is a plantain machete
, very thin, made for cutting wide arcs of soft vegitation. While plantain machetes are often used as murder weapons they aren't particularly suited to either battle or the jungle. Too long, too light.
Thank you for the correction. I knew that I couldn't get information on the niche of big knives if I asked directly.
OP said "bowie knives" but most responses are about thick and thin machetes. Is there a keen difference between thick machetes and bowie knives?
>A hatchet and smaller hunting knife are much more practical than a big knife.
Not in a jungle setting, machetes are king in jungle settings.
they are in a jungle
It’s badass
Will we ever get to see the Billy fight?
Probably he didnt even manage to land a hit. Dutch heard his screams like 5-6 seconds after he last saw him on the log bridge.
thats a machete
it is useful in the jungle for cutting foliage out of your path
it wasn't a fight it was a sacrifice
he is clearly fit but it is not roidmonkey curlbro 5% bf fit
Yes. They will remake Predator in our lifetime.
>They will remake Predator in our lifetime.
if they had some IQ they would first make a movie about the first team that disappeared
There should only have been one predator film, and none of the terrible fricking aliens vs predator films.
Also only 2 aliens movies.
idk, would kinda take the suspense out already knowing everyone dies at the end. It's like that horribly shitty Thing prequel where you already fricking know the outcome.
I thought he slipped and fell
What Billy did was smart from what he understood, it just wasn't enough.
He knew his enemy wanted a trophy more than anything, and so probably wouldn't shoot him from afar if he didn't shoot first because the blast would knock him off the cliff. He knew his enemy was almost invisible so he gave him only enough room to come at him from one direction. He knew he was bigger and heavier so he picked the only ground where that might be a disadvantage.
You could see him thinking it over when he saw the fallen tree, like "this is the perfect spot, it's my only chance."
>What's the point
The Eighties were cooler than life ever will be now.
In the image on the right, she looks like shes spent a few years in a post apocalyptic australia
She played Zhota-zan on Farscape. I say she's aged well for a literal Amazon woman.
Looks like bad plastic surgery.
Maybe. Bur The Road Warrior came our 40 years ago, so aging is ecpected. And frankly she looks like a no makeup shot.
That face/body type is similar to Sigourney Weaver as the pleasing aesthetics of the face are determined by bone structure instead of solely skin and fat, hence the better aging. Also, keeping fit does wonders (think Kerri Hoskins).
OP has never been in the jungle.
Last time I was innajungle I had to kill two of these foot long poisonous insects with my big knife, you can't very well shoot them.
The jungle is full of bullshit and fighting at close quarters is entirely possible, specifically at night. Crossing borders at night I've run into seven foot tall men with spears at only a metre or two distance and they were just as surprised to see me.
I sworded some kind of wild dog/wolf thing which promptly fricked off into the jungle and was probably never seen again, I sworded several snakes which I just stumbled into. If in doubt you fricking sword it, those are the rules. Border police in the table lands know that "sword" means a bandalero .
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>I've run into seven foot tall men
Men who were seven foot tall or seven men who were a foot tall?
Pygmies are almost extinct due to hutu massacres so i think he meant the former
I know they're all Black folk but Hutus genocided the Tutsis in Rwanda. African Pygmies are hunted by Bantus in the Congo Basin.
I've met both very tall people and very short people in the jungle, the natives of most regions are usually tiny.
But many groups have been driven into the jungle, be they races, tribes or lone bushmen.
These men (for there was two of them) were very dark skinned, I am 6"2 and I figure them for at least 6"6. They were thin and muscular like the African tribes and wielded what looked like spears made from rebar or iron wrapped in cloth, in the region these were status symbols of indigenous free men and could be thrown to deadly effect even against large game.
The thrown spear should never be underestimated, and a spear of solid iron has double the weight and a quarter of the sectional density. It wasn't at all uncommon to see men armed with what I can only describe as rebar plumbata, hack sawn with just the blade of a hacksaw into fanned barbs and usually thrown with elastic or a short Atl-Atl type launcher.
It is fine capitalize Indigenous, amigo
It is a proper noun, like European
That is just grammar really
I make no judgement, literacy is not my forte.
You're correct in your assessment, but for context the reason you cut vegitation is not for an individual man, it's for columns of men who are often going in single file and portering things like mortars, crates, pak guns, every livestock. The infantry take turns at the front clearing the way, while the pathfinders do all the squirming.
By the time ten men squirm through a gap, thats when it becomes faster to cut.
Often you cut somthing simply to avoid firing a gun, and to some extent that's a discipline issue. Soldiers who don't have big knives are far more inclined to panic and shoot at things they can't see, or shoot at snakes.
>Is there a keen difference between thick machetes and bowie knives?
Without getting bogged the the semantics of what constitutes one or the other, the bowie knife has a drop point which makes it useless for digging. I think the drop point is just a stabbing point which won't break if you slash with the knife, some people say it's for skinning but I don't buy it.
A machete is also almost always point heavy, which means you can deliver more force with short swings. The bowie is more like a bayonette in that it's blade heavy by dint of blade length.
The bowie tends to be shorter than a thick machete, and many bowie knives have false (unsharpened) back edge. Rarely will anyb machete have a false edge because that's where you want the weight.
I will make the pertinent observation however that many "bowie" knives of the day were actually just bolos, the drop point, false edge, and other features became exagurated in the decades when such knives became toys rather then tools
>it is a proper noun
It's an adjective.
>Greater Black Krait
Indian?
I read that as "Greater Black Kraut".
> Crossing borders at night I've run into seven foot tall men with spears at only a metre or two distance and they were just as surprised to see me.
Story time
In regions with porous borders its common for people to just walk across the border to go shopping or to see their relatives, specifically for indigenous people to do this.
9/10 smuglers are native people buying cloth, metal blades, shot and powder or other frontier supplies.
For commercial reasons such trespass is usually accepted, it's not like crossing the border actually gets you closer to anything in the other country, the military usually checkpoints the national side of a frontier town and just concedes the jungle folk coming and going.
A border crossing might be a mile or 20, it might be a goat path or dense jungle. If they'res a goat path you bet I'm taking the goat path.
Fig.1: the kind of bullshit poisonous animal you immediate cut in half.
>Fig.1: the kind of bullshit poisonous animal you immediate cut in half.
I would humbly request you burn the e n t i r e species of whatever-the-frick-a-pede that is.
Fig.2: another bullshit poisonous animal you cut in half. These frickers try to get inside tents, sleeping bags, hammocks, boots, bags, where they then get cut in half.
So that they could take the predator on in a one-on-one
Doesn't hurt having a big hunk of metal in the jungle
wienery NorA
a big ass bowie knife is a great choice for both jungle survival and combat
Cowardly pidors hurting an innocent pig to make a statement. I'd like to see them try with an actual ukrainian, of they still have balls
Damn, I remember watching this movie when I was younger and in my memory this guy was super muscular and ripped. Now all I can comment about his physique is that he has some muscle mass but he's so fat he's abs are hidden.
Social media really fricked up my image of "muscular"
Same. Shit's wild.
You're basically just discovering what feminists were saying about The Beauty Myth over 30 years ago.
>an intrinsically unattainable standard that is then used to punish women physically and psychologically for their failure to achieve and conform to it
Just swap in men for women and you'll Black folk need to read Feminist literature and just substitute capitalism for patriarchy because that was the real enemy all along.
I mean, based. Yeah, I mean, people get that concept kinda wrong. One can both benefit from a system or a cultural norm AND be a victim of it at the same time. Like, for example, a king isn't truly "free", as the monarchy chains him to his duties and places nebulous, changing, yet strict expectations on him and his time. He's better of than others, sure, but a gilded cage is still a cage. Just because you've gotten comfortable on the inside doesn't mean you couldn't be better off in many ways on the outside. You're just lacking imagination or initiative to question yourself.
/autistic offtopic text-wall
Better to sit by the riverbank than to be king of the world
Mo' power, mo' problems
I don’t feel punished by it though???
Except there's a fundamental difference in psychology between men and women. Men see a guy like that and see something to aspire to, and on a deeper level a useful hunting companion. Because men are hardwired to cooperate on hunting trips with other men. You don't get jealous because there's an evolutionary advantage to other men in your group being large and muscular.
A pretty women to another woman is always competition, no exceptions. There's no evolutionary advantage to other women in your group being prettier than you.
Men are entirely capable of becoming jealous of other men, human beings are more than just a series of computer data switches where IF/OR is the only thing that matters.
I think he's making a distinction to say that a larger more muscular man could have negative value as a competitor for women but those exact same qualities would be a positive value if he was in his hunting party. Like you may not want to go around with him trying to pick up chicks if he's going to mog you, but you wouldn't be telling him that he's too strong to hunt tigers with you and your weaker friends.
>"muh evolutionary psychology" garbage
Darling, there's more to people than barebones ooga-booga brain. If you think human thought and behavior can be simplified to some mechanistic logic of imaginary reward-maximizing, then, boy, YOU are the simplistic automaton.
And, I mean, come on... If you truly can tell me you've not even once felt jealous of another man in your fricking life, let me tell you, I can point out an emotionally-disconnected shut-in for you.
I didn't say men NEVER felt jealousy. I said that men don't feel jealous in the same way for the same kind of things as women do. And that portraying men as muscular has a very different effect on the male psychology as portraying women as beautiful with gigantic breasts has on women.
You really come across as a spiteful c**t.
Pretty sure most of the world runs on ooga booga. In remote villages the women crowd around me asking how long and what colour my dick is while the men sit around angrily, when I produce whiskey all the men muscle in and push the women away to get a drink, when I'm buying things every merchant says a thousand dollars in the hope I'll just hand them a thousand dollars.
In Saud and Riyad, London, Chongquing, it's the same deal. Bored housewives clambour for the dick, unemployed local men want to fight, shopkeepers want a grand for somthing that's $200 on Ebay.
Ooga booga.
Its more like a cut down bayonette than a bush knife, I wouldn't carry one. My bolo was really a camp knife, but I found carrying it openly discouraged people from bothering me.
I'm not sure how to explain the relationship between LARP and how I was living, perspectives varied considerably but at the end of the day I actually did what other people would never have done.
Much like the indigenous man's spear, the bolo both serves and serves to indicate a purpose
>intrinsically unattainable standard
there's a bit of a difference between how attainable those standards are though.
lol if you actually touched grass you'd know that women are way less interested in physical appearance compared to men. there are likewise way more women with eating disorders/body dysmorphia compared to men.
not as far apart as you might think. the chick is toned, fit, and obviously works out. the dude no doubt works out but is also blasting tren/clen/everything he can get his hands on.
if the girl did the same she'd blow up too but they both spending similar amounts of time working out
not if she has thighs like that but I agree in principle.
Yeah except women have just gotten fricking obese and it would be HEALTHIER for them to chase the beauty standard more
Meanwhile bodybuilders have gotten more muscular, defined and roided up than ever to the point of health issues arising, that's not the same at all
It's not the same because muscle good and fat bad, with bodybuilding it's more "too much of a good thing"
girls get surgery and work out to get "thicc", it's not obesity
Statistically we're up to about 40% of adults being obese and obese women have overtaken obese men, so a feminist saying "unattainable beauty standards" is delusional because beauty has just gotten worse, we haven't been "chasing the dragon" AT ALL in that area.
The other anon brought up that parallel in response to a guy saying his standards of "muscularity" have been skewed towards more mass which has been the trend but it's brought with it more intense roiding and health risks, and basically my point is that saying we've "chased good looks too far" would be valid in the conversation about performance-enhanced perfectionism being taken to it's limits, but it would NOT be valid from the feminist perspective because collectively and statistically society has actually gotten uglier and unhealthier in that regard.
That's what a real man looks like anon.
The other thing about a "big" knife is that it gives you a wide flat blade which you can use for swatting things (venemous beetles), for crushing things and for digging.
You might ask: "why not a shovel" and the answer is that in the jungle the ground is full of so many roots that trying to dig is usual a waste of time, you just take cover behind trees. Shrapnel doesn't travel far because of all the trees, the jungle eats mortars and small bombs. There's a special way to dig with a machete, and all this is why your bush knife has only one edge, having only one edge means you can half- hand it and this in turn allows you to stab into the ground to dig at roots. Very hard to stab downwards if you can't half hand, and in mayer you will see this issue identified in combat as well. Single edge=half hand=leverage.
You can also batton more easily.
For those who have heard otherwise you can in fact batton with a double edged knife or bayonette, the way you do this is to get a second piece of wood as a bolster. How to hold all three? I do it with a second person in the same way a Japanese blacksmith taps, but solo you will find the blade becomes lodged after the first hit.
When they say the khukuri can "dig" what many people forget is that in the jungle "dig" means "hack through roots". The forward curve blade is perfect for this, and indeed I used a khukhri for some time before reverting to a bolo/ cutlass for reasons of weight.
FM 90-5 is about jungle operations, it's worth reading, just for fun.
Fun fact - they don't even recommend using machetes to hack through vegetation because this makes noise. An experienced jungle-dweller can sort of slide through everything, not bending it too much and not cutting it, making much less noise.
As for machetes, there's two kinds - long, thin and light for leafy vegetation and shorter, thick and heavy for vegetation which has roots and small trees, like mangrove swamps.
While you CAN cut animals and people with it, it's most likely insects (and the disease they spread) that will get you so don't worry too much about how big it is, just make sure it matches the vegetation.
For the jungle I favour a bolo.
Like the khukri it has the forward edge you want for digging, but the point is relatively axial. Incidentally many khukri that are neither souvenirs or status objects have a far less pronounced curve, and are closer to a bolo.
Unlike a cutlass or deck knife the bolo has a broad point, again this is mostly for digging. The reason I bring up digging so much is that the entrenching shovel is useless in the jungle, you actually NEED another digging tool.
The Fairband knife is well known, what's less widely known is that it's creator actually gave equal importance to the bolo, in part because it was the knife British conquistadors would find in the hands of the enemy, in part because the jungle is where hand to hand combat is actually realistic.
I started with a machete, quickly swapped to a bolo, and after some time with the khukhuri went back to the bolo because it was faster to unsheathe, was lighter and the axial point is important when putting body weight behind it.
This is a real (insofar as historically distinct) bowie knife. It was made by someone who would actually use it, and I guess this simply based on my experience making such knives.
You may note that it lacks the exaguration we've become accustomed to in "bowie" knife.
Smaller knives with drop points were used mainly by drunken townsfolk as pocket cutlery, pocket knives are the ones with ornate handles and exagurated forms, a cowboy couldn't afford one and would have little use for one.
The fontiersman had a homemade knife like this, the weight compensated in part for the questionable quality of the steel, I made one out of a piece of tractor plate and used bits of iron fencing wire as pins. Drilling the holes was tedious, at first I simple sawed notches in the full tang and wrapped the wire around the whole handle, tensioning it with a spoon as if it were a fence post.
As a bandelero your shit is always getting confiscated and stolen, often you live with just the clothes on your back, stealing bits of scrap metal from farms sometimes bargaining, sometimes bullying, neither a bandit nor a beggar. Usually a thief, but usually a friend.
Sometimes I was hired as a guide, or a porter, sometimes I cut firewood or dug ditches, often sent to deliver messages, sometimes sent to deliver threats. Sometimes the army would hire me, sometimes rebels would hire me, my work was less elite mercenary and more camp aid. First to go in, also first to flee.
You often saw people using the fake indochina coins as guards for their knives, because the alloy made to look like silver was soft enough to work by hand and wouldn't become sharp when struck against things.
It was also pretty common to see anything with a wire tail hammered flat into a blade, tools like trowels, or things like rigging brackets for wooden crates, you could hacksaw the loop. And hammer it into a rats tail, the village women used these crude knives for forraging. And planting tubers.
Bowie knives were almost never used by actual frontiersmen, who were better off with a machete or an axe. There's a huge mythology about them.
Bowie knives were also one of the first weapons banned in towns and cities because of the fact city dandies carried them and used them to knife each other constantly.
Quality LARP
there's a whole class of South American frontier knives that are equal parts Spain and the Americas, kind of interesting to see that happen
Bowie specifically wanted a dueling knife because sword carrying had been outlawed, and according to rumour asked a smith to make him a modified large butcher's knife, something like this
>picrel
and over time it got turned into a caricature of that original idea
So what he wanted already existed for a few hundred years for the exact same reason?
or for medieval poorgays
>what he wanted already existed
Bowie was Scots-Irish, the original white trash, so would have had zero knowledge of anything other than his immediate surroundings and personal history
>Scots-Irish, the original white trash
That's not true, because Slavs exist.
you dare imply those creatures are white?
Okay.
If we're drawing lines, Scots-Irish may be where Whites begin and therefore the bottom of the barrel in White trash.
The eternal anglo is the lowest creature that might be theoretically considered white.
>for the exact same reason
not quite. "Messers" weren't made to get around anti-sword laws, what they were made for was to get around guild regulations on who could make what parts for swords. Since it didn't use the same parts as a normal sword and instead used parts like a standard knife, a messer could be made by members of a knife-grinder's guild with parts sourced from their respective fields, without stepping on the toes of and cutting business out from under the blades made by the swordsmiths guild.
So what are kukri knifes for?
What would you want in the jungle? A b***hmade bugout?
Bowie knives should be standard issue to U.S troops.
Unironically.
To determine who is in charge.
makes them feel confident and cool
so they fight better
To kill angery monkes.
Doesn't matter. That movie was full of great quotes.
>get to da choppah
>if it bleeds we can kill it
>I ain't got time to bleed
And good lawd, that mini gun 'Painless', didn't that make your pee pee hard?
Is this just bad angle and lighting?
I remember this guy being huge and ripped, a lot like Arnold.
>I remember this guy being huge and ripped, a lot like Arnold.
its you being used to modern cgi movies
that was ripped at the time period
Roidtrannies and cgi have ruined the natural fit look. Now fat "people" with a netflix subscription dont consider you to be in shape unless you look like alan richson
No you don't need a machete to kill snakes or incests in a jungle. The machate's job is for hacking through dense vegetation.
found it, it's in his chest a little bit.
That's a machete and they were in the jungle...
Bigger knives leave bigger wounds
They're in the fricking jungle you miserable piece of shit. What's the point of not giving them those?
Why did the Predator killed the injured guy?
He was hurt, possibly paralyzed and was simply scared for his life. He's no more of a threat than the grill.
The predator is a piece of shit, he’s an butthole
for the same reason hunters put down a wounded deer
There's a difference between ignoring something because it's not a threat and randomly breaking off your attack because the target was rendered helpless by you. If you fall unconscious when the predator stabs you do you think he stops stabbing you?