According to meta-analysis of incidents where a gun is used in self-defense situation , 97% of all situations are resolved with 4 rounds or less. And 99% of situations are resolved without any need of reloading a gun regardless of gun type.
So even a standard 6-shooter revolver is enough.
And let's be honest, if you get into situation which you can not resolve (or exit from) with six well placed shots ...that's probably a situation which you won't be able to resolve even if you had more.
So in that sense, even Colt 1911 boomers have a point. 8 shots without an extra mag is all you realisticly need if you are not a LEO or other active duty dude.
Me, personally? CZ-75 with 15 shots. Yes i know that the mag takes 16 rounds, I just prefer 15. Makes it easier to count. It's a personal preference.
>Me, personally? CZ-75 with 15 shots. Yes i know that the mag takes 16 rounds, I just prefer 15. Makes it easier to count. It's a personal preference
Load 16, carry one in the chamber, and fire 15 shots. On the 15th shot, if you're actually counting rounds, reload, and you'll have 1 in the chamber during your reload
Zero, since I live in an area where I realistically don't need to carry a gun.
Feel sorry for you homosexuals that are stuck in your terror-hole neighborhoods but hey
I live in a 99.8% white county where the average age is 58. I also don't need to carry a gun, but I still do because black people can still get here in a car.
What's in the drum/mag + at least one full reload.
I once heard from a guy who successfully used a Glock 19 in self defense and in his case he was attacked by several people, they tripped him and he fell down on his left arm and it broke, the guys started kicking him all over. He managed to pull out the gun with his right arm while protecting his head with the left and killed one of the bad guys, the others ran away.
He was in a huge panic and he said that doesn't remember firing and he didn't hear a single shot even though in reality he fired his entire mag in around 3-4 seconds.
Situations like this are obviously very rare but they do happen and it makes me think what if the bad guys realized that he fired all his shots and decided to turn around in that case? He did not have a reload because he thought that 15+1 is plenty. Luckily that time it was
Generally, 5-10 is ideal. Think about the situation where you may actually need to draw a CCW. The decision to shoot is made because of an immediate threat of harm. In that moment, you likely have less than 2 seconds before you are injured. That's about how long it should take to dump 10 rounds if you're quick.
Carry 45 rounds if that's what makes you comfortable, but I don't know of a single situation where you are forced to shoot and come out unscathed after taking ten whole seconds to incapacitate/dissuade your attacker(s).
>wake up >microwave is off >suspicious >put a bullet in the mag >shower stays cold too long >bullet in the mag >microwave breakfast sandwich tastes off >bullet in the mag >boss called, work starting later than normal >bullet >pee, get a chill up my spine >5 bullets
Yup... you could say I just follow my GUT instinct... but really, when it comes to .45 ACP you only need one bullet... heh
BEEN SEEIN A LOT OF YOU YOUNGINS ARGUING 45 VS 9MM WITH ME. EVERY MILLENIAL THAT ARGUES 9MM IS BETTER THAN 45 LOSES THE ARGUMENT EVERYTIME. SO I'LL DO YALL A FAVOR AND MAKE MY POINTS HERE SO WE CAN END THIS DISCUSSIONS:
ALL YOU KIDS ALWAYS SAY 9MM IS "GOOD ENOUGH". WELL,
IS "GOOD ENOUGH" GONNA HELP YOU WHEN TYRONE PULLS A ROD ON YOU?
IS "GOOD ENOUGH" GONNA HELP YOU WHEN YOU CATCH JAMAL LOOKIN AT YOUR GIRL?
IS "GOOD ENOUGH" GONNA HELP WHEN YOU CATCH DARNELL STEALIN THE RIMS OFF YOUR 67 MUSTANG?
WHEN I WAS KILLIN VIET CONG IN THE JUNGLE, WE DIDN'T ACCEPT "GOOD ENOUGH" WE WANTED THE BEST AND ONLY THE BEST. WE TOSSED OUR FISHER PRICE M16 TOYS AWAY AND PULLED OUT ARE 1911S. WE SURVIVED MULTIPLE AMBUSHES THANKS TO OUR TRUSTY 1911S AND THE STOPPING POWER OF THE 45 ACP. GOD BLESS JOHN MOSES BROWNING FOR SAVIN MY PLATOON. LET'S NOT FORGET ALL THE WWII VETS HE SAVED.
TO HELL WITH YOU MILLENIALS AND YOUR WEAK TUPPERWARE 9MMS. BETTER HOPE YOU DON'T GET INTO A GUNFIGHT WITH ME, ONE SHOT AND YOUR DEAD. BETTER HOPE YOU HAVE THEM "HICAP" CLIPS BECAUSE YOU'LL NEED 'EM!
ME? FORGET ABOUT CARRYING A CLIP! JUST ONE IN THE CHAMBER KEEPS ME OUT OF DANGER!
i legitimately had a guy who said he was a Vietnam vet come up to me at the range, and after a brief conversation he said "You only need one shot with a 45"
I usually carry two or three, but if I'm feeling frisky I switch from a couple airplane bottles to a pint or half pint bottle. Just depends on what's on the day's agenda. But why are we discussing booze on a weapons forum?
as many as i can get
yes, yes, studies say and statistically and all that, but I am not bargaining my life on a statistic. i dont gamble my money and im not gambling my life. more bullets raises my chance of survival, so i will take as many as i can comfortably carry
Smallest gun I have is a Sig 365 and that's 12+1. I'd still be comfortable carrying less, but I don't see the point when I can have that much capacity in such a tiny pistol.
5 shots of .38 special is my normal carry innapocket, but I keep a speed strip in my other pocket with another 6 rounds of .38 special. That said, I might start pocket carrying another j frame in .32 long in my left pocket as a backup, Frank Sheeran style.
One cartridge in a single shit rifle is enough for one hog or a deer, but an AR-10 with jungle taped 30rnd mags, a suppressor, and thermal night vision clip is enough to bag dozens of hogs in one night.
1.1 billion.
>I feel very uncomfortable on a normal day.
Around 6 million.
420
One. Sometimes I chamber a round, drop the magazine, and carry the gun that way. If I only have one shot, I know I'll make it count.
>YOU SEE, IVAN
five is enough
According to meta-analysis of incidents where a gun is used in self-defense situation , 97% of all situations are resolved with 4 rounds or less. And 99% of situations are resolved without any need of reloading a gun regardless of gun type.
So even a standard 6-shooter revolver is enough.
And let's be honest, if you get into situation which you can not resolve (or exit from) with six well placed shots ...that's probably a situation which you won't be able to resolve even if you had more.
So in that sense, even Colt 1911 boomers have a point. 8 shots without an extra mag is all you realisticly need if you are not a LEO or other active duty dude.
Me, personally? CZ-75 with 15 shots. Yes i know that the mag takes 16 rounds, I just prefer 15. Makes it easier to count. It's a personal preference.
You're going to live for 25,000 to 30,000 days on average.
A "One out of a hundred cases" statistic is not what you should base your self defense on.
I don't carry a spare mag when I CC, I do keep 13+1 from a 16 round mag.
>I get into DGUs often enough for a 1% risk to be a statistical inevitability for me
Have you considered relocating to a less...youthful AO?
>government studies
😐
>government studies, guns
:O
please tell us it's at least in the chamber
>Me, personally? CZ-75 with 15 shots. Yes i know that the mag takes 16 rounds, I just prefer 15. Makes it easier to count. It's a personal preference
Load 16, carry one in the chamber, and fire 15 shots. On the 15th shot, if you're actually counting rounds, reload, and you'll have 1 in the chamber during your reload
8 rounds of .380.
Most criminals in my area are non-violent.
Zero, since I live in an area where I realistically don't need to carry a gun.
Feel sorry for you homosexuals that are stuck in your terror-hole neighborhoods but hey
>I'm unemployed and never leave home, the post
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I live in a 99.8% white county where the average age is 58. I also don't need to carry a gun, but I still do because black people can still get here in a car.
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What's in the drum/mag + at least one full reload.
I once heard from a guy who successfully used a Glock 19 in self defense and in his case he was attacked by several people, they tripped him and he fell down on his left arm and it broke, the guys started kicking him all over. He managed to pull out the gun with his right arm while protecting his head with the left and killed one of the bad guys, the others ran away.
He was in a huge panic and he said that doesn't remember firing and he didn't hear a single shot even though in reality he fired his entire mag in around 3-4 seconds.
Situations like this are obviously very rare but they do happen and it makes me think what if the bad guys realized that he fired all his shots and decided to turn around in that case? He did not have a reload because he thought that 15+1 is plenty. Luckily that time it was
That sounds like an interesting case. Do you have a link to a news story or police report about it?
>That sounds like an interesting case. Do you have a link to a news story or police report about it?
He made it up, bro
10+1, but I still bring an extra mag most of the time
Generally, 5-10 is ideal. Think about the situation where you may actually need to draw a CCW. The decision to shoot is made because of an immediate threat of harm. In that moment, you likely have less than 2 seconds before you are injured. That's about how long it should take to dump 10 rounds if you're quick.
Carry 45 rounds if that's what makes you comfortable, but I don't know of a single situation where you are forced to shoot and come out unscathed after taking ten whole seconds to incapacitate/dissuade your attacker(s).
>wake up
>microwave is off
>suspicious
>put a bullet in the mag
>shower stays cold too long
>bullet in the mag
>microwave breakfast sandwich tastes off
>bullet in the mag
>boss called, work starting later than normal
>bullet
>pee, get a chill up my spine
>5 bullets
Yup... you could say I just follow my GUT instinct... but really, when it comes to .45 ACP you only need one bullet... heh
9
I can only carry seven, so that's what I go with
Depending on what I'm doing normally 18-20 if I'm going on a trip I bring the sidecar and that's 40
12 shots. More than enough to kill anything that moves.
>6 shots
>goes to 12 shots
>Would have went to 18 shots if there was a 3rd fight.
8 round, I figure since in most videos the assailant drops after getting hitting 4 times, I would have enough ammo to down 2 people
Just 1
BEEN SEEIN A LOT OF YOU YOUNGINS ARGUING 45 VS 9MM WITH ME. EVERY MILLENIAL THAT ARGUES 9MM IS BETTER THAN 45 LOSES THE ARGUMENT EVERYTIME. SO I'LL DO YALL A FAVOR AND MAKE MY POINTS HERE SO WE CAN END THIS DISCUSSIONS:
ALL YOU KIDS ALWAYS SAY 9MM IS "GOOD ENOUGH". WELL,
IS "GOOD ENOUGH" GONNA HELP YOU WHEN TYRONE PULLS A ROD ON YOU?
IS "GOOD ENOUGH" GONNA HELP YOU WHEN YOU CATCH JAMAL LOOKIN AT YOUR GIRL?
IS "GOOD ENOUGH" GONNA HELP WHEN YOU CATCH DARNELL STEALIN THE RIMS OFF YOUR 67 MUSTANG?
WHEN I WAS KILLIN VIET CONG IN THE JUNGLE, WE DIDN'T ACCEPT "GOOD ENOUGH" WE WANTED THE BEST AND ONLY THE BEST. WE TOSSED OUR FISHER PRICE M16 TOYS AWAY AND PULLED OUT ARE 1911S. WE SURVIVED MULTIPLE AMBUSHES THANKS TO OUR TRUSTY 1911S AND THE STOPPING POWER OF THE 45 ACP. GOD BLESS JOHN MOSES BROWNING FOR SAVIN MY PLATOON. LET'S NOT FORGET ALL THE WWII VETS HE SAVED.
TO HELL WITH YOU MILLENIALS AND YOUR WEAK TUPPERWARE 9MMS. BETTER HOPE YOU DON'T GET INTO A GUNFIGHT WITH ME, ONE SHOT AND YOUR DEAD. BETTER HOPE YOU HAVE THEM "HICAP" CLIPS BECAUSE YOU'LL NEED 'EM!
ME? FORGET ABOUT CARRYING A CLIP! JUST ONE IN THE CHAMBER KEEPS ME OUT OF DANGER!
BIGGER IS ALWAYS BETTER. END OF STORY.
OVER N OUT,
JOHN WILCOX
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i legitimately had a guy who said he was a Vietnam vet come up to me at the range, and after a brief conversation he said "You only need one shot with a 45"
Based and most likely ITT to kill someone in self defense.
9mm: 17+1
10mm: 10+1
Full size 9mm and a glock 29?
how did you know
I usually carry two or three, but if I'm feeling frisky I switch from a couple airplane bottles to a pint or half pint bottle. Just depends on what's on the day's agenda. But why are we discussing booze on a weapons forum?
regulated by same agency?
The least I'd ever carry in a single gun would be 6 rounds. Semi auto or revolver it's fine just have some spare mags/loaders.
Zero. I live in a safe, gun free country and the best defense against gun armed criminals is a comprehensive gun ban.
why are you still here, just to suffer?
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Non shit post answer I either carry 8(9 shield or Glock 36) or 11(vp9sk) never bothered with a extra mag
Zero
I'm neither a pussy nor paranoid
9+1 with an option on another 30 in the pockets if I'm going somewhere diverse.
if you feel like you need that much ammo, why even go there in the first place?
If I actually felt like I needed that much ammo I'd be wearing webbing. 2 mags balances the gun nicely though.
as many as i can get
yes, yes, studies say and statistically and all that, but I am not bargaining my life on a statistic. i dont gamble my money and im not gambling my life. more bullets raises my chance of survival, so i will take as many as i can comfortably carry
Smallest gun I have is a Sig 365 and that's 12+1. I'd still be comfortable carrying less, but I don't see the point when I can have that much capacity in such a tiny pistol.
five
5 shots of .38 special is my normal carry innapocket, but I keep a speed strip in my other pocket with another 6 rounds of .38 special. That said, I might start pocket carrying another j frame in .32 long in my left pocket as a backup, Frank Sheeran style.
I regularly carry 7+1 of .32 Auto FMJ and am perfectly comfortable with that.
I don't need to carry or feel the need to carry except when hunting
One cartridge in a single shit rifle is enough for one hog or a deer, but an AR-10 with jungle taped 30rnd mags, a suppressor, and thermal night vision clip is enough to bag dozens of hogs in one night.
>single shot* rifle
Singld shot* not single shit
Single shot rifles are really cozy to hunt with honestly
>single shot*
Few extra rounds in the pocket
That's real old school rifle hunting
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5.