Nothing. They're better than typical window units, although the price is high. Euros will continue to burn to death and seethe because of their over-engineered windows
Aircon is the worst invention in human history. >allows people to be landwhales in comfort >keeps frail people who couldn't even handle a summer alive and wasting resources >is your biggest energy expense >you literally can't get a woman in the first world without having AC >allows for summer wagieing instead of everyone fricking off to the coldest body of water every summer >allows for white people to settle land close to equator where God clearly doesn't want them to be >same goes for heating past 65 and vitamin d supplements
God gave us natural segregation, we defied him and now we suffer. >I hate HVAC so much it's unreal.
It’s amazing to me how dumb people have become due to modern convenience. Working in maintenance like 70% of people just have zero understanding of how to stay cool without just cranking the AC down. They’ll have every light and appliance in the house going, windows/doors not sealed or even cracked, something baking in be oven, then set the AC to 65 on a 90 degree day and be like “why is my electric bill so high? I’m getting scammed”
most people are moronic, and most peoples problems are their own fault. After entering the workforce my sympathy for the general population evaporated and I'm tired of supporting them.
Had my folks visit this summer. I live down south in Satan's bunghole.
Told them about no indoor oven use between June and September. >but but but why
It's a fricking 6kW heater. What do you mean why????? There is a perfectly good outside kitchen for just this scenario.
Hey man, if Canada wasn't such a fricking shit show I'd go live up there. I like my home to be below 60F at all times. Bring on the snow and ice! Keeps the darkies away!
This. Get one without wifi. Also the "low hung" ones like picrel are way overpriced. I guess it depends on how much you value the light coming through the window because right now is peak AC sale time and you can get a normal 8000btu AC for 290 bucks.
You don't always have a choice when it comes to bundled iot crap but you can simply never setup the Wi-Fi connection. You just need to know if there is reduced functionality like no dimming the display. In Midea's case, you can find a faux server on github to keep all the data to your local network.
Downside is big extremely ugly piece of grey and white plastic on your windowsill taking up floor space and making noise al day, ruining the aesthetic of the windowsill while at it and they probably edited the power cable out of the picture
>ruining the window sill
Thing is they seem to be marketed at tenant living in old apartments (guillotine windows) so they can withstand the noise and the appearance in exchange for a little cooling power against the building's bad insulation.
I have that model and it's weird they didn't do a bit of extra work to make the pump work both ways but since I'm not an AC engineer, maybe I'm underestimating how much it would increase the price.
It works pretty well as an air conditioner and the noise level is pretty low. My only real complaint, beyond not being to reverse it to heat, is that the display cannot be dimmed without installing an app on your phone. I shouldn't need to install Chinese spyware just to keep the thing from lighting up my bedroom at night. Most everything else can be controlled from the front panel or the remote control, no need to connect it to the internet.
>I'm not an AC engineer, maybe I'm underestimating how much it would increase the price
pretty sure it's a case of a reversing valve and reprogramming the electronics
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Wonder how difficult that would be to PrepHole. It's a very popular model of AC so someone probably is going to come up with a hack sooner or later.
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Midea makes a larger unit that works both ways but it's a rolling floor model, not a u-window model. Apparently the cold weather needs larger coils to keep everything from freezing up. From the discussion I saw, you could convert the window unit into a heater but it would be prone to freezing so not worth the effort.
> is that the display cannot be dimmed without installing an app on your phone. I shouldn't need to install Chinese spyware just to keep the thing from lighting up my bedroom at night.
White electrical tape over display. Can still see numbers nut dimmer and no spyware. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
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Probably would work but stupid that it's necessary.
Any increase in price on a window unit would obliterate sales
You're fighting every window unit ever manufactured
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Up thread it is mentioned in several posts that it technically could be reversed to generate heat but the exterior coils would end up freezing in anything but the type of warm weather where having a heater isn't desirable. The issue isn't just cost, it's added complexity for the coil heater and the larger size/weight for the required larger coils.
It looks terrible and you lose the usage and viewing ability of a good window. If you are going to go this route then cut a hole in the house a put a split AC unit into the wall.
Yes, they're not very attractive but for people in climates where they're only needed for a month or two per year, they're a good compromise against the cost of a central AC system. The U-shape ones mentioned frequently in this thread allow the window to open while the unit is installed. For the particular unit OP posted, it blocks very little of the view.
Which model? The only ones I've seen that go both ways are minisplits, not window units.
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The soleus product in OP
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I see it now, the heat it only available on the 10,000 BTU model and doesn't work when it is below freezing outside. Might be good for a workshop in a southern state but you wouldn't want to rely on it to heat your home.
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If he's talking the second floor, the heat from the first floor likely keeps it comfy enough
He can add a meme electric fireplace if it's too cold
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Mine has been going 2 winters in North Idaho. It failed when it was in the teens but we have electric baseboard heat to supplement.
mine keeps getting moldy so I have take it apart and thoroughly clean it every couple months. now it has a permanent mold smell to it and I can't get rid of the smell no matter what I do
Why would you post in a thread whose topic has no relevance to you? Are you so starved for a tiny crumb of human interaction that you'll shitpost for attention?
It looks terrible and you lose the usage and viewing ability of a good window. If you are going to go this route then cut a hole in the house a put a split AC unit into the wall.
Nothing. They're better than typical window units, although the price is high. Euros will continue to burn to death and seethe because of their over-engineered windows
What about as a heat pump, compared to a permanent install
It's a shit window unit, you can't run from that.
Euros will continue to just use mini splits.
Aircon is the worst invention in human history.
>allows people to be landwhales in comfort
>keeps frail people who couldn't even handle a summer alive and wasting resources
>is your biggest energy expense
>you literally can't get a woman in the first world without having AC
>allows for summer wagieing instead of everyone fricking off to the coldest body of water every summer
>allows for white people to settle land close to equator where God clearly doesn't want them to be
>same goes for heating past 65 and vitamin d supplements
God gave us natural segregation, we defied him and now we suffer.
>I hate HVAC so much it's unreal.
>.t Better Known for Other Work
It’s amazing to me how dumb people have become due to modern convenience. Working in maintenance like 70% of people just have zero understanding of how to stay cool without just cranking the AC down. They’ll have every light and appliance in the house going, windows/doors not sealed or even cracked, something baking in be oven, then set the AC to 65 on a 90 degree day and be like “why is my electric bill so high? I’m getting scammed”
most people are moronic, and most peoples problems are their own fault. After entering the workforce my sympathy for the general population evaporated and I'm tired of supporting them.
Had my folks visit this summer. I live down south in Satan's bunghole.
Told them about no indoor oven use between June and September.
>but but but why
It's a fricking 6kW heater. What do you mean why????? There is a perfectly good outside kitchen for just this scenario.
as much as we fricking need it just to live in Florida, there would be absolutely no one down here if it were not for AC...
Good, Florida was a mistake. Give it back to the lizards.
>allows for white people to settle land close to equator
yeah, I'm thinking based
Hey man, if Canada wasn't such a fricking shit show I'd go live up there. I like my home to be below 60F at all times. Bring on the snow and ice! Keeps the darkies away!
wifi
This. Get one without wifi. Also the "low hung" ones like picrel are way overpriced. I guess it depends on how much you value the light coming through the window because right now is peak AC sale time and you can get a normal 8000btu AC for 290 bucks.
You don't always have a choice when it comes to bundled iot crap but you can simply never setup the Wi-Fi connection. You just need to know if there is reduced functionality like no dimming the display. In Midea's case, you can find a faux server on github to keep all the data to your local network.
With the toshiba model i bought i just popped the front off and unplugged the wifi dongle
Lowering the temperature causes your body to store fat for insulation.
I'd rather be cold and fat than sweating my balls off.
Need a pump to get condensate out and above the sill, instead of using gravity. Hose can clog with dust and fail.
Downside is big extremely ugly piece of grey and white plastic on your windowsill taking up floor space and making noise al day, ruining the aesthetic of the windowsill while at it and they probably edited the power cable out of the picture
>ruining the window sill
Thing is they seem to be marketed at tenant living in old apartments (guillotine windows) so they can withstand the noise and the appearance in exchange for a little cooling power against the building's bad insulation.
Thieves will damage the window when removing the unit.
I've had one in my bedroom window for 27 years, never stolen.
Sad
Where does the water drain?
They're a real b***h to fit to older windows, or older windows that didn't get completely redone in a retrofit.
Price. The new high seer window unit are pretty neat.
>$650
About $550 too much but I guess all that money went towards it having wifi :^)
Where do you find one cheaper? You know it's a heat pump, not just an AC right?
there's an upside down one for a third of the price
That one doesn't heat
I have that model and it's weird they didn't do a bit of extra work to make the pump work both ways but since I'm not an AC engineer, maybe I'm underestimating how much it would increase the price.
It works pretty well as an air conditioner and the noise level is pretty low. My only real complaint, beyond not being to reverse it to heat, is that the display cannot be dimmed without installing an app on your phone. I shouldn't need to install Chinese spyware just to keep the thing from lighting up my bedroom at night. Most everything else can be controlled from the front panel or the remote control, no need to connect it to the internet.
>I'm not an AC engineer, maybe I'm underestimating how much it would increase the price
pretty sure it's a case of a reversing valve and reprogramming the electronics
Wonder how difficult that would be to PrepHole. It's a very popular model of AC so someone probably is going to come up with a hack sooner or later.
Midea makes a larger unit that works both ways but it's a rolling floor model, not a u-window model. Apparently the cold weather needs larger coils to keep everything from freezing up. From the discussion I saw, you could convert the window unit into a heater but it would be prone to freezing so not worth the effort.
> is that the display cannot be dimmed without installing an app on your phone. I shouldn't need to install Chinese spyware just to keep the thing from lighting up my bedroom at night.
White electrical tape over display. Can still see numbers nut dimmer and no spyware. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
Probably would work but stupid that it's necessary.
Any increase in price on a window unit would obliterate sales
You're fighting every window unit ever manufactured
Up thread it is mentioned in several posts that it technically could be reversed to generate heat but the exterior coils would end up freezing in anything but the type of warm weather where having a heater isn't desirable. The issue isn't just cost, it's added complexity for the coil heater and the larger size/weight for the required larger coils.
Yes, they're not very attractive but for people in climates where they're only needed for a month or two per year, they're a good compromise against the cost of a central AC system. The U-shape ones mentioned frequently in this thread allow the window to open while the unit is installed. For the particular unit OP posted, it blocks very little of the view.
The model on Amazon does pump both ways
Which model? The only ones I've seen that go both ways are minisplits, not window units.
The soleus product in OP
I see it now, the heat it only available on the 10,000 BTU model and doesn't work when it is below freezing outside. Might be good for a workshop in a southern state but you wouldn't want to rely on it to heat your home.
If he's talking the second floor, the heat from the first floor likely keeps it comfy enough
He can add a meme electric fireplace if it's too cold
Mine has been going 2 winters in North Idaho. It failed when it was in the teens but we have electric baseboard heat to supplement.
You just spin it around.
you have a big ugly piece of chinkshit hanging out of your window and you look like a poor person.
>What's the downside?
Oooo
Got him
>Wifi
>~~*(Wifi*~~)
mine keeps getting moldy so I have take it apart and thoroughly clean it every couple months. now it has a permanent mold smell to it and I can't get rid of the smell no matter what I do
The stupid wifi part.
I have central air. Why would I need this shit fricking up a window and room?
Why would you post in a thread whose topic has no relevance to you? Are you so starved for a tiny crumb of human interaction that you'll shitpost for attention?
the downside is you being a rentcuck that cannot drill holes in the walls
I'm a homeowner and the central heat is only on the ground floor (built 1916). Why should I drill holes when it's not necessary?
window air conditioners are loud. with an HVAC system, you just feel the heat/cool air with virtually no sound.
The window units in this thread are not like the traditional teeth shakers you're accustomed to. The noise is in the low 40 dbs range.
It looks terrible and you lose the usage and viewing ability of a good window. If you are going to go this route then cut a hole in the house a put a split AC unit into the wall.
You do not lose the view or the usage of the window