>battle rifle
autoloading rifle in a full power cartridge >DMR
mobile precision rifle >sniper rifle
static precision rifle, typically in a powerful cartridge
>autoloading
not any time before 1935 >static
not necessarily
>battle rifle
autoloading rifle in a full power cartridge >DMR
mobile precision rifle >sniper rifle
static precision rifle, typically in a powerful cartridge
This seems reasonable. The definitions obviously are a touch fuzzy and will vary somewhat by army but generally these days it falls roughly around here. For an actual "sniper rifle" in western forces for example 338 and 416 are regularly used giving effectiveness out to 3000yd. At those calibers and with that kind of accuracy and wanting to get every last bit out of the cartridge bolt is basically required, no desire to spend anything on a gas system.
>battle rifle
autoloading rifle in a full power cartridge >DMR
mobile precision rifle >sniper rifle
static precision rifle, typically in a powerful cartridge
>battle rifle
A class of rifle that consists of a full sized caliber and detachable magazines usually containing 20 or more rounds
>DMR
A designated marksman's rifle. Whatever rifle a designated marksman is issues. NOT a class of rifle because they're typically just a longer ranged version of whatever the standard issue rifle is.
Battle rifle shoots big bullets.
DMRs have 18" barrels and are meant to be carried around.
Sniper rifles have 20"+ barrels, aren't meant to be carried around and hit really far.
battle rifle: literal front line gun
DMR: gives I think it's a squad level weapon (not entirely sure) to let them address threats farther out
sniper: maybe platoon level? someone correct me on the shit. But the point is, it's much more specialized. DMR is less specialized
BR >gun everyone gets in full power rifle cartridge
DMR >gun with enhanced accuracy/optics for integration into small units as fire support
Sniper >dedicated long range, high precision system for specialist independent marksmen
/thread..
Battle Rifles are rifles capable of semi automatic fire that fire a full rifle round like 7.62x51mm.
Battle rifles are typically 4-6 MoA guns that are mass issued and typically shot using irons/without an optic. The big 4 "battle rifles" were historically the FAL, G3 and then to a lesser extent the M14 and AR-10
Battle Rifles also are specific guns that were used by NATO countries during the cold war. M1 Garand, M14, FAL, G3 and AR-10.
A DMR can be in intermediate or full rifle caliber. DMRs are also typically capable of semi automatic fire (there might be examples of bolt action rifles used in this roll, but I think that last happened in WWII/Korea). DMRs have optical sights with some mid level magnification. Something like 4x, though they could have better magnification. They also are typically 1-3 MoA guns.
DMRs are differentiated from Battle Rifles by the fact a DMR will have magnified sights and be more accurate.
DMRs are differentiated from Sniper Rifles in that DMRs can be used in a similar way to a battle rifle or standard service rifle if needed. IE the SVD was semi auto and had iron sights so someone could use it in a similar roll to an AK if needed
Sniper rifles can be semi auto or bolt action. They always have optics (unless you are talking about pre cold war, as there were unmagnified sniper rifles deployed in WWI and WWII). Sniper rifles are built to be shot prone. They usually are in a full rifle caliber or bigger. And snipers are usually used in a team with a sniper
Battle rifle
everyone gets one
DMR
usually part of a normal fire team/platoon, but has a different gun than other members, or has the same gun as the other members, but with a better optic that has magnification
Sniper rifle
usually part of a 2 man team with a spotter
>The big 4 "battle rifles" were historically the FAL, G3 and then to a lesser extent the M14 and AR-10
L1A1 SLR used by every Commonwealth country not "big" enough for you? > (there might be examples of bolt action rifles used in this roll, but I think that last happened in WWII/Korea)
France issued the bolt action FR F2 to squads for DMR right into the 2010s
You already have good answers, but here is a doctrinal answer:
Battle rifle: to engage distant formations
DMR: to engage distant individual combattants
Sniper: to unconventionally kill individuals with one shot
Doctrine.
And effective range.
Maybe.
Battle rifle: semi or full auto rifle in major caliber ( 7.62x51mm for example)
DMR: Accurized rifle in an intermediate or major caliber, usually with a magnified optic.
Sniper rifle: Accurized rifle, usually to a greater extent than a DMR, with optic in a major caliber.
>with optic in a major caliber.
We goin big bore scopes now?
Should be "and in a major caliber". Too many paint chips.
/thread
>autoloading
not any time before 1935
>static
not necessarily
This seems reasonable. The definitions obviously are a touch fuzzy and will vary somewhat by army but generally these days it falls roughly around here. For an actual "sniper rifle" in western forces for example 338 and 416 are regularly used giving effectiveness out to 3000yd. At those calibers and with that kind of accuracy and wanting to get every last bit out of the cartridge bolt is basically required, no desire to spend anything on a gas system.
About $10000
>battle rifle
autoloading rifle in a full power cartridge
>DMR
mobile precision rifle
>sniper rifle
static precision rifle, typically in a powerful cartridge
>battle rifle
A class of rifle that consists of a full sized caliber and detachable magazines usually containing 20 or more rounds
>DMR
A designated marksman's rifle. Whatever rifle a designated marksman is issues. NOT a class of rifle because they're typically just a longer ranged version of whatever the standard issue rifle is.
>sniper rifle
Whatever rifle a sniper is using.
Battle rifle shoots big bullets.
DMRs have 18" barrels and are meant to be carried around.
Sniper rifles have 20"+ barrels, aren't meant to be carried around and hit really far.
battle rifle: can go through some light brush and still kill a russian conscript
DMR: can cover your machinegunners sector of fire while he reloads.
sniper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i82xURPkLWo
battle rifle: literal front line gun
DMR: gives I think it's a squad level weapon (not entirely sure) to let them address threats farther out
sniper: maybe platoon level? someone correct me on the shit. But the point is, it's much more specialized. DMR is less specialized
BR
>gun everyone gets in full power rifle cartridge
DMR
>gun with enhanced accuracy/optics for integration into small units as fire support
Sniper
>dedicated long range, high precision system for specialist independent marksmen
/thread..
Never forget that the us special forces wanted accuracy international but they got dog crap instead
what was dog crap, the m21?
MRAD
snipper rifle usually means manual action but i feel like effective range is what matters most so anything in a big dick cartridge like 300WM or .338
battle rifles are standard issue to every soldier. dmr are assigned to trained soldiers. sniper rifles are given to specially trained soldiers.
>used by battle
>used by dm
>used by sniper
autism
DMR for designated marksman
Sniper rifle for snipers
Battle rifle for antique morons who don’t understand fire superiority and volume of fire
M14 is a BR
M39 is a DMR
M21 is a Sniper rifle
what the frick happened to /k/ bunch of god damned morons around here.
the M39 is shit is what it is
Battle Rifles are rifles capable of semi automatic fire that fire a full rifle round like 7.62x51mm.
Battle rifles are typically 4-6 MoA guns that are mass issued and typically shot using irons/without an optic. The big 4 "battle rifles" were historically the FAL, G3 and then to a lesser extent the M14 and AR-10
Battle Rifles also are specific guns that were used by NATO countries during the cold war. M1 Garand, M14, FAL, G3 and AR-10.
A DMR can be in intermediate or full rifle caliber. DMRs are also typically capable of semi automatic fire (there might be examples of bolt action rifles used in this roll, but I think that last happened in WWII/Korea). DMRs have optical sights with some mid level magnification. Something like 4x, though they could have better magnification. They also are typically 1-3 MoA guns.
DMRs are differentiated from Battle Rifles by the fact a DMR will have magnified sights and be more accurate.
DMRs are differentiated from Sniper Rifles in that DMRs can be used in a similar way to a battle rifle or standard service rifle if needed. IE the SVD was semi auto and had iron sights so someone could use it in a similar roll to an AK if needed
Sniper rifles can be semi auto or bolt action. They always have optics (unless you are talking about pre cold war, as there were unmagnified sniper rifles deployed in WWI and WWII). Sniper rifles are built to be shot prone. They usually are in a full rifle caliber or bigger. And snipers are usually used in a team with a sniper
Battle rifle
everyone gets one
DMR
usually part of a normal fire team/platoon, but has a different gun than other members, or has the same gun as the other members, but with a better optic that has magnification
Sniper rifle
usually part of a 2 man team with a spotter
>The big 4 "battle rifles" were historically the FAL, G3 and then to a lesser extent the M14 and AR-10
L1A1 SLR used by every Commonwealth country not "big" enough for you?
> (there might be examples of bolt action rifles used in this roll, but I think that last happened in WWII/Korea)
France issued the bolt action FR F2 to squads for DMR right into the 2010s
>L1A1
Semi-auto FAL, whatever
You already have good answers, but here is a doctrinal answer:
Battle rifle: to engage distant formations
DMR: to engage distant individual combattants
Sniper: to unconventionally kill individuals with one shot
Battle rifle is for battle, DMR for designated marksmanship, sniper rifle for sniping. It's quite simple, really.