In the US felons lose the right to vote and to own firearms. Some states do have a process through which felons, after a number of years and jumping through legal hoops, can erase their felony convictions - usually for lesser felonies. As far as I know there aren't any states that have a straight-up "grace period" for felons
Also in the US, blackpowder guns are not legally considered firearms; they're considered antiques (even if they're newly produced). So felons can own blackpowder guns without any legal issues
Being a felon is supposed to be the equivalent of stay-at-home banishment. I think some crimes (like murder) still deserve it but owning specifically shaped metal? Not so much.
Legal due process can deprive you of certain rights without being un-Constitutional. Slavery, for instance, is technically still legal as a punishment for a crime. Depending on how far the window moves in your lifetime, you could theoretically see slavery return, since the only thing keeping it from happening under our current framework is no judge having the balls to do it. But we do have private prisons, incentivised prison labor, and a vague "war on drugs" that imprisons that hands out felony convictions for relatively minor possession crimes, so we have a pseudo-slavery system already in place in a limited fashion.
Incarcerated people from Maine, Vermont, and Washington, DC, can vote from prison
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Rights take a back seat to profits; that's why we have the largest prison population in the developed world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
>Infringes upon another’s rights >expects own rights to not be deprived
Rights are for people who can be trusted with their responsibilities rights come with.
>Felon >Can't own guns >Can own flintlocks >Rob a store with ~20 flintlock pistols strapped to various belts and bandoleers.
So how well does police body armor fare against a .75 musket ball?
Incarcerated people from Maine, Vermont, and Washington, DC, can vote from prison
>lose >rights
So it isn't a right then?
Rights take a back seat to profits; that's why we have the largest prison population in the developed world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
For those 3, everyone in prison can vote, felony or not.
In other 22 states, voting rights are restored to people convicted of a felony automatically upon completion of their prison sentence. In Connecticut, you have to complete your parole time too.
>In other 22 states, voting rights are restored to people convicted of a felony automatically upon completion of their prison sentence. In Connecticut, you have to complete your parole time too.
So what happens in the USA when over 50% of the population have 'felonies' for owning ball point pens or weed or psychological domestic violence or misgendering or mental racism or whatever?
3 months ago
Anonymous
This post is all over the place. What country are you from? Where do you get your news? I'm curious what made you think the USA is like that at all.
We'll all be in prison for internet piracy, resisting arrest, and traffic violations. And weed.
Mental racism is allowed, because racism is why we made all these prisons in the first place.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Sounds like for those people, there's not much point in going quietly. Especially considering
I think the punishment if caught is pretty severe. My understanding is that a felony is 2 years or more sentence time. With early parole that means your life is on hold for a year. If you get a 20 year sentence because you use an illegal weapon in self defense, you life is over permanently. You are starting at zero if you ever get out. That is a really, really long time to spend in prison.
>. If you get a 20 year sentence because you use an illegal weapon in self defense, you life is over permanently. You are starting at zero if you ever get out.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Whole Foods, McDonald's, Target, IBM, Texas Instruments, Boeing, Nordstrom, Intel, Wal-Mart, Victoria's Secret, Aramark, AT&T, BP, Starbucks, Microsoft, Nike, Honda, Macy's and Sprint all post record profits. Stock in Corrections Corp of America dwarfs Apple and Google. UNICOR buys the coast guard.
>Tehy are not considered firearms fro the purposes of the GCA and NFA
They are if used to shoot someone or to impersonate a firearm so yes they are and felons can't carry the or use them without getting in huge legal messes. OPs spam is about stopping conversation about blackpowder guns on /k/ because a board just about poly glocks and ars with red dots is 'real' guns
>felons can own blackpowder guns without any legal issues
Yeah they can, but they mostly don't bother getting one, because black powder guns aren't very user friendly compared to modern firearms and it takes some brains to understand how to use them without blowing them up or yourself. There's a reason why you don't see nogs running around with Colt Dragoons, because they would rather trade some crack for a stolen Glock than sit down and learn which powder charge and bullet type is best suited for a black powder revolver.
Ironically, people who are into these types of guns are the least likely to have criminal records.
>Ironically, people who are into these types of guns are the least likely to have criminal records
Facts lmao, it's only boomer fudds. If felonigs ever do embrace blackpowder guns i guaruntee they'd be restricted in a heartbeat
I'm not a yank, what's it like being a felon? Do they have any hope of an actual life or is it basically like being black during apartheid South Africa?
What stops a convicted felon from acquiring a firearm? Does God Himself personally step down from His throne to place a magic force-field in-between the aforementioned felon and the weapon currently in reach?
If he's a criminal he's fundamentally opposed to following the law when it suits himself, so this question is stupid and irrelevant.
I think the punishment if caught is pretty severe. My understanding is that a felony is 2 years or more sentence time. With early parole that means your life is on hold for a year. If you get a 20 year sentence because you use an illegal weapon in self defense, you life is over permanently. You are starting at zero if you ever get out. That is a really, really long time to spend in prison.
>What's the best weapon that a convicted felon can own?
A stolen glock which costs less than a pietta cap and ball? Oh you mean a 3000$ civil war antique Vs an old sawn off 870?
A firearm
Learn a martial art and then deal with the fact that it won't help you in reality. Deal with the consequences of your criminal actions
Good boy, now go kiss cops on the lips you little homosexual.
homosexual
homosexual
I enjoy writing up dinguses like you and sending them to the hole for 2 weeks. Your shit attitude is why you're a felon in the first place lmao
Remington 1858 and a plan to hide the body.
find a different hobby
hell yeah
so are you just not allowed to own a gun or vote for ever or is there a grace period?
In the US felons lose the right to vote and to own firearms. Some states do have a process through which felons, after a number of years and jumping through legal hoops, can erase their felony convictions - usually for lesser felonies. As far as I know there aren't any states that have a straight-up "grace period" for felons
Also in the US, blackpowder guns are not legally considered firearms; they're considered antiques (even if they're newly produced). So felons can own blackpowder guns without any legal issues
For OP, i'd reccomend learning to drill with blackpowder arms or getting so many you don't need to worry about reloading.
>lose
>rights
So it isn't a right then?
Listen, pal, you're preaching to the choir. I think it's fricking ridiculous that felons can't vote.
I know it is bullshit and it is a shame the US has it this way.
The can own machine guns, short barreled rifles and suppressors without having to register them with the ATF so it cancels out.
Being a felon is supposed to be the equivalent of stay-at-home banishment. I think some crimes (like murder) still deserve it but owning specifically shaped metal? Not so much.
Legal due process can deprive you of certain rights without being un-Constitutional. Slavery, for instance, is technically still legal as a punishment for a crime. Depending on how far the window moves in your lifetime, you could theoretically see slavery return, since the only thing keeping it from happening under our current framework is no judge having the balls to do it. But we do have private prisons, incentivised prison labor, and a vague "war on drugs" that imprisons that hands out felony convictions for relatively minor possession crimes, so we have a pseudo-slavery system already in place in a limited fashion.
Rights don't exist.
You must be 18 or older to use this site.
not underage, just a thirdie
>Infringes upon another’s rights
>expects own rights to not be deprived
Rights are for people who can be trusted with their responsibilities rights come with.
>Felon
>Can't own guns
>Can own flintlocks
>Rob a store with ~20 flintlock pistols strapped to various belts and bandoleers.
So how well does police body armor fare against a .75 musket ball?
Obligatory
>And more fiscally responsible
Run.
Incarcerated people from Maine, Vermont, and Washington, DC, can vote from prison
Rights take a back seat to profits; that's why we have the largest prison population in the developed world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
>Incarcerated people from Maine, Vermont, and Washington, DC, can vote from prison
Incarcerated for misdemeanors or felonies?
For those 3, everyone in prison can vote, felony or not.
In other 22 states, voting rights are restored to people convicted of a felony automatically upon completion of their prison sentence. In Connecticut, you have to complete your parole time too.
https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_rights_for_people_convicted_of_a_felony
>In other 22 states, voting rights are restored to people convicted of a felony automatically upon completion of their prison sentence. In Connecticut, you have to complete your parole time too.
So what happens in the USA when over 50% of the population have 'felonies' for owning ball point pens or weed or psychological domestic violence or misgendering or mental racism or whatever?
This post is all over the place. What country are you from? Where do you get your news? I'm curious what made you think the USA is like that at all.
We'll all be in prison for internet piracy, resisting arrest, and traffic violations. And weed.
Mental racism is allowed, because racism is why we made all these prisons in the first place.
Sounds like for those people, there's not much point in going quietly. Especially considering
>. If you get a 20 year sentence because you use an illegal weapon in self defense, you life is over permanently. You are starting at zero if you ever get out.
Whole Foods, McDonald's, Target, IBM, Texas Instruments, Boeing, Nordstrom, Intel, Wal-Mart, Victoria's Secret, Aramark, AT&T, BP, Starbucks, Microsoft, Nike, Honda, Macy's and Sprint all post record profits. Stock in Corrections Corp of America dwarfs Apple and Google. UNICOR buys the coast guard.
Tehy are not considered firearms fro the purposes of the GCA and NFA. They are still firearms if a felon tries to own one.
Yes. They are normally forbidden from owning any weapons.
>Tehy are not considered firearms fro the purposes of the GCA and NFA
They are if used to shoot someone or to impersonate a firearm so yes they are and felons can't carry the or use them without getting in huge legal messes. OPs spam is about stopping conversation about blackpowder guns on /k/ because a board just about poly glocks and ars with red dots is 'real' guns
>felons can own blackpowder guns without any legal issues
Yeah they can, but they mostly don't bother getting one, because black powder guns aren't very user friendly compared to modern firearms and it takes some brains to understand how to use them without blowing them up or yourself. There's a reason why you don't see nogs running around with Colt Dragoons, because they would rather trade some crack for a stolen Glock than sit down and learn which powder charge and bullet type is best suited for a black powder revolver.
Ironically, people who are into these types of guns are the least likely to have criminal records.
>Ironically, people who are into these types of guns are the least likely to have criminal records
Facts lmao, it's only boomer fudds. If felonigs ever do embrace blackpowder guns i guaruntee they'd be restricted in a heartbeat
a passport
I'm not a yank, what's it like being a felon? Do they have any hope of an actual life or is it basically like being black during apartheid South Africa?
>or is it basically like being black during apartheid South Africa?
It's like being black in modern America.
What stops a convicted felon from acquiring a firearm? Does God Himself personally step down from His throne to place a magic force-field in-between the aforementioned felon and the weapon currently in reach?
If he's a criminal he's fundamentally opposed to following the law when it suits himself, so this question is stupid and irrelevant.
I think the punishment if caught is pretty severe. My understanding is that a felony is 2 years or more sentence time. With early parole that means your life is on hold for a year. If you get a 20 year sentence because you use an illegal weapon in self defense, you life is over permanently. You are starting at zero if you ever get out. That is a really, really long time to spend in prison.
A noose to have a nice day. you eliminate more potential crime by killing yourself than anyone else
None. I'm glad filthy criminals can't own shit
A firm handshake
>What's the best weapon that a convicted felon can own?
A stolen glock which costs less than a pietta cap and ball? Oh you mean a 3000$ civil war antique Vs an old sawn off 870?
Felons can't own firearms right, can they be forbidden from owning crossbows, stonebows, and swords?
What charges?