They do have them, but it's only possible from belarus. The moment shit like this happens, there will be no belarussian border and no belarussian army, and Luka knows this
>they can make them
this war has completely changed my views of russias production capabilities
at this point I doubt they're able to produce anything more technologically advanced than a lada circa 1970
There is a reason why Russia despite being the biggest country on earth and flush with natural resources, cheap energy etc. has weaker industrial output than pathetic island like Britain, or even Italy.
>than pathetic island like Britain, or even Italy.
They have more pathetic economy than the fricking mexico, and that's before you account for them lying and inflating their data by as much as 20%.
Nah they are making those T90s while also upgrading T-72 from storage to whatever the current cope upgrades are with ERA and shit. Those T-90s tho are probably pretty barebones if even up to spec. Weren't there reports of T-80s in the earlier months that didn't have composite in their armour?
They do have them, but it's only possible from belarus. The moment shit like this happens, there will be no belarussian border and no belarussian army, and Luka knows this
Anything beyond assertion available? Perhaps a twitter screenshot or two?
Alright if you're asking in good faith, and as a pro russkie I can only assume you are, then all I need to know is: What standard of proof you'd accept. You let me know the kind of thing I need to post for you to say "yep, I agree Russia ain't got em," and I'll have a root about.
How about a twitter screenshot or something I cook up in photoshop? Maybe something from some other war I can pretend is this one?
>Expects proof of a negative >Won't say what proves a negative
Look man NATO philosophy hasn't advanced to the point of this being possible. I just want to know how to do this.
Wait hang on, you wouldn't happen to just be low effort gatekeeping a response to multiple claims they can make missiles easily, would you?
Bro they can't even produce ball bearings or nails. They can't into modern medicine.
Fun fact: udssr hat higher advanced medicine capabilities in the 60s than modern Russia has now.
It may not fit your narrative but Russia was a walking corpse before that invasion and has deteriorated much further since.
Way easier to test nukes using powerful supercomputers with data acquired from the atmospheric testing age. Actually letting those thimgs off is a full moron move
It's hard to research as I don't speak Russian, but did anything happen with >By 2018-2020, it is planned to increase the capacity of the supercomputer to 1 exaflop
I am asking genuinely. We don't have this kind of research and if they acheived that it's undeniably incredible.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Just to clarify, by >we
I mean my specific government/state. The west has done this of course.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You know russian promises are even more fantastical than russian claims. I bet IRL this "supercomputer" is just 4 smuggled Intel I9s bundled together in there.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Turns out you're probably right.
I'm at a point in all this that I just can't believe it any more. What in the frick has/is ol' mummy Russia doing to them? What are the rewards for the extreme Russian nationalism you see? I just don't get it at this point. The fraud is so fricking deep, it just can't be right that they let them down so hard, every single fricking time. Its like feudalism with extra steps.
There are probably some legitimate whataboutisms that can (and probably will) be brought here, but this just seems insane how every claim of greatness they have seems to crumble under almost any scrutiny. It can't be right.
11 months ago
Anonymous
In my opinion Russians are taking the same fault on their shoulders as the germs did in 3rd reich.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's even harder to trust russian claims on supercomputers when during their functional years as ussr the only useable supercomputers they had were reverse engineered smuggled commercial IBM machines.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>What are the rewards for the extreme Russian nationalism you see?
It's simply staving off the end of the state, mixed with a kind of late-game hysterical hopium that we all know so well. When you're fricking doomed, you might well shoot for the stars.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Just to clarify, by >we
I mean my specific government/state. The west has done this of course.
How am I supposed to know?
My first post was about how nuclear armed nations now test their weapons in simulations since actually using them is moronic. Some schizophrenic losing its shit after I post a link to Russia's nuclear physics research program to show they have a super computer cable of such testing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
puccia's nuke threats would be a lot more believable if they actually did a successful live test of them. kind of like the sarmat test would be, if it was actually successful.
11 months ago
Anonymous
This.
Detonating a tactical nuke over Novaya Zemlya might make their threats mean something. Until they do something like that, they're just like my sister threatening that she'll hang herself if I call her fat one more time.
11 months ago
Anonymous
how fat is your sister
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
Fat enough that Anon has no confidence in the strength of any rope holding her apparently.
11 months ago
Anonymous
why are you bullying your sister
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well the rope just snapped, that should give you an indication
>than pathetic island like Britain, or even Italy.
They have more pathetic economy than the fricking mexico, and that's before you account for them lying and inflating their data by as much as 20%.
You can't even blame Communism. They were economically moronic under the Tsars, they were economically moronic under the Bolsheviks, and they're economically moronic under the Oligarchs. I don't think there's a single socioeconomic system that they can't frick up.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I don't think there's a single socioeconomic system that they can't frick up.
They did decent at "mongol pillaging horde"
11 months ago
Anonymous
Kekd and agreed.
The problem that Russia has is that it's not a real country. In a real country Society consists of people and the sum of all those people are the state. Ideally this state has democratically elected leaders. This kind of societal organization makes civil participation necessary. If none of these things are the case you will never have civil participation in government. That means no one is interested in making Society progress. This is what you see in modern Russia. You see a government that is completely unrelated to its people. You see the society just trying to survive. Nobody is trying to build wealth to increase standard of living. The outcome is a almost completely the industrialized country with people who don't care at all if the country succeeds or not. It somehow ironic because Putin wanted his people to become like that for easier rule and now it will his downfall. Note on the side Russia cannot even cover their own demand for nails toilet paper and ball bearings.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Should nuclear armed nations test their weapons every now and again?
Yes probably, nothing like the threat of thermonuclear apocalypse to keep your population nice and motivated. This won't happen though because no politician or military big wig wants to commit career suicide by even mentioning such a thing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
puccia has broken every treaty it was capable of breaking at this point, it's clear they don't have any working nukes
Jesus christ /misc/ really can't meme.
If anything Rosenbaum would be Russia for trying to rush a perceived b***h boy larper who's "totally gonna fold after being shown some force", and proceeding to find out.
>tooling placed in storage >half the tooling was sold to China under the table >remaining tooling sat in non-environmentally controlled warehouse for decades >roof of warehouse partially collapsed 20 years ago >warehouse is in Khazakstan since the fall of the SU
They're not that cheap. Also, they've been more or less doing that.
Missiles are very inefficient at large scale destruction. They can hit any apartment block in Kiev. And they have fired hundreds of missile salvos at the city. But what military advantage do a few destroyed commieblocks have? This isn't carpet bombing, where relatively small, dumb bombs are covering the city. It's a few, guided, big therefore at least somewhat expensive, missiles are being used to kill half a dozen ukrainians in a city of millions.
They're better off using them as slow close air support. Ukrainian entrenchments? Fire 3 giant missiles at each strongpoint, then advance.
>what's stopping Russia from spamming Kiev with cheap Tochka missiles?
The reason Russian are targeting cities is because their missiles precision is so poor it's the only place where they are sure to at least hit something and pretend it's a success.
As for cheap, I wonder if the missile are actually cheaper than the anti-missile intercepting them with +80% precision
they're mostly outside the cities, especially near the frontline.
and they're not hitting any of the military targets that might be in the cities, because they're hitting civilian buildings instead.
they don't keep them in random apartment buildings you fricking idiot.
it's also a really moronic proposition to kill like 10 recruits with every 10th expensive cruise missile. it's honestly negated by the increase in aid that happens every time russia kills more innocent bystanders.
ah so there we go that's the angle you were playing at.
what a homosexual you are, excusing bombardment of civilians because russian intelligence is too bad and too slow to catch actual military targets.
no it's just that most of the malls hit didn't have any military in them.
are you seriously moronic enough to try the argument that hitting every mall because one of them was hiding equipment is excuseable, or even strategically sound?
they're doing their best to hit as many civilian buildings as they can.
unlike when ukraine strikes russian cities however, there's no secondary explosions to indicate russians actually hit anything, because only russians store shells in fricking cities.
you still doing this, you finally went and just said it after the dumb narrative you were trying to weave got fricking annihalated.
fricking dumbass moron, you need plausible intelligence to strike civvy buildings, you're seriously moronic enough to think they're hiding soldiers in apartment blocks?
no need to keep replying, you already conceded that you're a moronic homosexual trying to spin something. then ousted yourself when that wasn't working.
you may go now, you're excused baljeet
did you not hear me? are your little thirdy ears filled with shit?
you tried spin a narrative that failed, then you got angry that nobody went along with it and just started whining about your delusions openly.
you've been excused after your concession there is nothing for you here now.
>be third worlder >upset at western success >decide to vicariously cling onto a regime attacking a white nation, with other white nations backing it >start regularly trying to decieve and spin narratives about the war on a board you don't normally visit >start making up bullshit about every ukrainian apartment block hiding a regiment of soldiers, this obviously means it's okay to randomly hit pizzaria's and kindergartens >people ignore your moronic rambling and when you reveal your full powerlevel, they call you out as the homosexual you are >get upset that you're called out for acting like a vatnik >get banned for being a homosexual >come back later with a new IP because you just so desperately needed to convince the stupid /k/edditors that those hohol children DESERVE to be missiled >prove you are a subhuman who deserves no empathy once again
that is pretty sad bro, how much do they pay you for this? do you do it for free?
It's been over a year since the invasion started, why are the snowBlack folk acting like it still hasn't begun? Did they bring back souvenirs from Chernobyl?
>Did they bring back souvenirs from Chernobyl?
Does radiation sickness count?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/unprotected-russian-soldiers-disturbed-radioactive-dust-chernobyls-red-forest-2022-03-28/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/red-forest-chernobyl-radiation-sickness-b2330067.html
>he's back for the third round
are you socially braindead, any normal person would've just conceded after being so handily BTFO but it's touched you on such a deep, emotional level that you have to come back and kiss our feet.
is this how things are done in your country?
Were you fricking asleep for the start of the war?
they did?
yes and they failed because their maps were literally from the soviet union
They didn't use them at day 0, because they had enough iskanders back then.
The existence of said missiles.
They do have them, but it's only possible from belarus. The moment shit like this happens, there will be no belarussian border and no belarussian army, and Luka knows this
They have done it since day one i thought.
not every missile they shoot is a kalibr
Lack of inventory
The earlier version doesn't have the range and the newer one has already been used extensively while production is low
You can't just click on the Iskander factory and switch it back to queueing Tochkas
100 missiles shot at once at Kiev, bros.
imagine all the fried bacon.
>day 1 of smo
>shoot 100 missiles at kiev center
>all but one miss
>1 missile hits a sex shop with dildos for men
>russian squad wiped out
The fact that they can’t
>they can make them
this war has completely changed my views of russias production capabilities
at this point I doubt they're able to produce anything more technologically advanced than a lada circa 1970
>1970
Generous
Russia was always an industrial flea compared to its population.
There is a reason why Russia despite being the biggest country on earth and flush with natural resources, cheap energy etc. has weaker industrial output than pathetic island like Britain, or even Italy.
>than pathetic island like Britain, or even Italy.
They have more pathetic economy than the fricking mexico, and that's before you account for them lying and inflating their data by as much as 20%.
Anyone have the screencap of that Russian shill melting down in response to learning Mexico's economy is more diversified than Russia's?
They didn't design the Ladas themselves either
They're still producing T-90s and upgrading T-72s out of storage. Though I do doubt those T-90s have composite.
you know how they make a T-90?
start with a basic T-72 and add 18 to its name.
Nah they are making those T90s while also upgrading T-72 from storage to whatever the current cope upgrades are with ERA and shit. Those T-90s tho are probably pretty barebones if even up to spec. Weren't there reports of T-80s in the earlier months that didn't have composite in their armour?
>Weren't there reports of T-80s in the earlier months that didn't have composite in their armour?
"Like bags of sand"
well, at least they get to make icecubes for their wounds?
Anything beyond assertion available? Perhaps a twitter screenshot or two?
>ITT
>why wouldn't
>proving a negative
This shitskin shill is worse than average.
Where are the nooks, pidor? RusBlack folk been screaming about red lines and nooks. Are they chicken?
>doesn't understand the burden of proof
moronic brownoid
so wheres the nukes? we have crossed the umptheenth red line
Alright if you're asking in good faith, and as a pro russkie I can only assume you are, then all I need to know is: What standard of proof you'd accept. You let me know the kind of thing I need to post for you to say "yep, I agree Russia ain't got em," and I'll have a root about.
How about a twitter screenshot or something I cook up in photoshop? Maybe something from some other war I can pretend is this one?
Somebody doesn't know how aerospace production works IRL.
You sound like a moron who has never worked in a production line
They aren't using them, if they could make more they would be.
If they worked they'd at least stage a live test.
The low number of missiles expended and their use in such ineffective manner is evidence they cannot build in quantity or with quality.
Results trump everything else. Despite having decades to prepare for war next door, that didn't happen.
post guns with timestamp
russia has no nukes
Ftfy
kek
?
alphaleaf is one of the dedicated bakers of /chug/
doxxed himself
Prove to me that there isn't a tea cup orbiting the sun between mercury and venus
you're definitely not capable of doing worse with your stupid ESL takes
>Expects proof of a negative
>Won't say what proves a negative
Look man NATO philosophy hasn't advanced to the point of this being possible. I just want to know how to do this.
Wait hang on, you wouldn't happen to just be low effort gatekeeping a response to multiple claims they can make missiles easily, would you?
Nta but:
Russia hasn't done a nuclear test in 30 years.
They obviously aren’t. Therefore it’s obvious that they can’t
Its equivalent epistemologically, which is the point.
He doesn't know that word, man.
Hmmmm
But Rosenbaum was never threatened. The manlet pedo was the one screaming threats and violence. Something he has in common with Putin
Bro they can't even produce ball bearings or nails. They can't into modern medicine.
Fun fact: udssr hat higher advanced medicine capabilities in the 60s than modern Russia has now.
It may not fit your narrative but Russia was a walking corpse before that invasion and has deteriorated much further since.
Way easier to test nukes using powerful supercomputers with data acquired from the atmospheric testing age. Actually letting those thimgs off is a full moron move
>powerful supercomputers
>Russia
Pick one
Literally a minute in google brah
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Russian_Scientific_Research_Institute_of_Exper
Shut the frick up RussBlack person, and stop sperging. Russhits are finished, and have lose the war.
samegay?
My condolences to the people in your life for the burden you have become
Didnt copy link properly lol
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Russian_Scientific_Research_Institute_of_Experimental_Physics
No, you are the one who have become the burden you zigger shitstain.
It's hard to research as I don't speak Russian, but did anything happen with
>By 2018-2020, it is planned to increase the capacity of the supercomputer to 1 exaflop
I am asking genuinely. We don't have this kind of research and if they acheived that it's undeniably incredible.
Just to clarify, by
>we
I mean my specific government/state. The west has done this of course.
You know russian promises are even more fantastical than russian claims. I bet IRL this "supercomputer" is just 4 smuggled Intel I9s bundled together in there.
Turns out you're probably right.
I'm at a point in all this that I just can't believe it any more. What in the frick has/is ol' mummy Russia doing to them? What are the rewards for the extreme Russian nationalism you see? I just don't get it at this point. The fraud is so fricking deep, it just can't be right that they let them down so hard, every single fricking time. Its like feudalism with extra steps.
There are probably some legitimate whataboutisms that can (and probably will) be brought here, but this just seems insane how every claim of greatness they have seems to crumble under almost any scrutiny. It can't be right.
In my opinion Russians are taking the same fault on their shoulders as the germs did in 3rd reich.
It's even harder to trust russian claims on supercomputers when during their functional years as ussr the only useable supercomputers they had were reverse engineered smuggled commercial IBM machines.
>What are the rewards for the extreme Russian nationalism you see?
It's simply staving off the end of the state, mixed with a kind of late-game hysterical hopium that we all know so well. When you're fricking doomed, you might well shoot for the stars.
How am I supposed to know?
My first post was about how nuclear armed nations now test their weapons in simulations since actually using them is moronic. Some schizophrenic losing its shit after I post a link to Russia's nuclear physics research program to show they have a super computer cable of such testing.
puccia's nuke threats would be a lot more believable if they actually did a successful live test of them. kind of like the sarmat test would be, if it was actually successful.
This.
Detonating a tactical nuke over Novaya Zemlya might make their threats mean something. Until they do something like that, they're just like my sister threatening that she'll hang herself if I call her fat one more time.
how fat is your sister
Fat enough that Anon has no confidence in the strength of any rope holding her apparently.
why are you bullying your sister
Well the rope just snapped, that should give you an indication
You can't even blame Communism. They were economically moronic under the Tsars, they were economically moronic under the Bolsheviks, and they're economically moronic under the Oligarchs. I don't think there's a single socioeconomic system that they can't frick up.
>I don't think there's a single socioeconomic system that they can't frick up.
They did decent at "mongol pillaging horde"
Kekd and agreed.
The problem that Russia has is that it's not a real country. In a real country Society consists of people and the sum of all those people are the state. Ideally this state has democratically elected leaders. This kind of societal organization makes civil participation necessary. If none of these things are the case you will never have civil participation in government. That means no one is interested in making Society progress. This is what you see in modern Russia. You see a government that is completely unrelated to its people. You see the society just trying to survive. Nobody is trying to build wealth to increase standard of living. The outcome is a almost completely the industrialized country with people who don't care at all if the country succeeds or not. It somehow ironic because Putin wanted his people to become like that for easier rule and now it will his downfall. Note on the side Russia cannot even cover their own demand for nails toilet paper and ball bearings.
>Should nuclear armed nations test their weapons every now and again?
Yes probably, nothing like the threat of thermonuclear apocalypse to keep your population nice and motivated. This won't happen though because no politician or military big wig wants to commit career suicide by even mentioning such a thing.
puccia has broken every treaty it was capable of breaking at this point, it's clear they don't have any working nukes
Agree
Did you even click that?
I agree.
Which makes the lack of Russian nuclear tests even odder
They've been using them for over a year already
https://twitter.com/Hajun_BY/status/1509099435262976000
Jesus christ /misc/ really can't meme.
If anything Rosenbaum would be Russia for trying to rush a perceived b***h boy larper who's "totally gonna fold after being shown some force", and proceeding to find out.
>tooling placed in storage
>half the tooling was sold to China under the table
>remaining tooling sat in non-environmentally controlled warehouse for decades
>roof of warehouse partially collapsed 20 years ago
>warehouse is in Khazakstan since the fall of the SU
And? Literally don't care and I live in Kyiv, aka.the first place to be nuked
"Ядepний гpиб? Cкiльки гpaм взять шoб тopкнyлo" хeйтcпiч
you don't win wars by terror bombing civilians
>You don't?
Not with that attitude you don't
>99% of stragtegic bombing campaigns end just before they succeed
More of an issue of needing a big enough bomb, as the yanks have proved.
ask Japan on 10th August 1945
They tried what you're suggesting with even cheaper and shittier Iranian drones last fall, and it also didn't work.
They're not that cheap. Also, they've been more or less doing that.
Missiles are very inefficient at large scale destruction. They can hit any apartment block in Kiev. And they have fired hundreds of missile salvos at the city. But what military advantage do a few destroyed commieblocks have? This isn't carpet bombing, where relatively small, dumb bombs are covering the city. It's a few, guided, big therefore at least somewhat expensive, missiles are being used to kill half a dozen ukrainians in a city of millions.
They're better off using them as slow close air support. Ukrainian entrenchments? Fire 3 giant missiles at each strongpoint, then advance.
The Ghost of Kiev
>what's stopping Russia from spamming Kiev with cheap Tochka missiles?
The reason Russian are targeting cities is because their missiles precision is so poor it's the only place where they are sure to at least hit something and pretend it's a success.
As for cheap, I wonder if the missile are actually cheaper than the anti-missile intercepting them with +80% precision
if the last attack is anything to go by then they will probably do a massive attack soon enough
100km range maybe?
no, they just can't hit actual military targets.
such is the way of the mongoloid.
they're mostly outside the cities, especially near the frontline.
and they're not hitting any of the military targets that might be in the cities, because they're hitting civilian buildings instead.
Even hitting a habitation building cause more damage to the Russian economy through the cost of the missile than to the Ukrainian.
Like the Ukrainian HQ hidden under a park pathway?
Russian missile barely managed to hit powerplant even before air-defense was put in place.
Pizza cafe's being known for the military importance
they don't keep them in random apartment buildings you fricking idiot.
it's also a really moronic proposition to kill like 10 recruits with every 10th expensive cruise missile. it's honestly negated by the increase in aid that happens every time russia kills more innocent bystanders.
ah so there we go that's the angle you were playing at.
what a homosexual you are, excusing bombardment of civilians because russian intelligence is too bad and too slow to catch actual military targets.
nah, bro. russian leadership is just demented. it's not a 4D masterplan like in your Marvel movies.
no it's just that most of the malls hit didn't have any military in them.
are you seriously moronic enough to try the argument that hitting every mall because one of them was hiding equipment is excuseable, or even strategically sound?
they're doing their best to hit as many civilian buildings as they can.
unlike when ukraine strikes russian cities however, there's no secondary explosions to indicate russians actually hit anything, because only russians store shells in fricking cities.
you still doing this, you finally went and just said it after the dumb narrative you were trying to weave got fricking annihalated.
fricking dumbass moron, you need plausible intelligence to strike civvy buildings, you're seriously moronic enough to think they're hiding soldiers in apartment blocks?
no need to keep replying, you already conceded that you're a moronic homosexual trying to spin something. then ousted yourself when that wasn't working.
you may go now, you're excused baljeet
you may go now thirdie, get up off your knees, stop crying, and leave my /k/
did you not hear me? are your little thirdy ears filled with shit?
you tried spin a narrative that failed, then you got angry that nobody went along with it and just started whining about your delusions openly.
you've been excused after your concession there is nothing for you here now.
>admits he is an outsider trying to stir shit
do you have a humiliation fetish?
>Hiding in malls
>One truck parked nearby and went, which Russia later blew up
You people rely so hard on links m t being read it's unreal.
>be third worlder
>upset at western success
>decide to vicariously cling onto a regime attacking a white nation, with other white nations backing it
>start regularly trying to decieve and spin narratives about the war on a board you don't normally visit
>start making up bullshit about every ukrainian apartment block hiding a regiment of soldiers, this obviously means it's okay to randomly hit pizzaria's and kindergartens
>people ignore your moronic rambling and when you reveal your full powerlevel, they call you out as the homosexual you are
>get upset that you're called out for acting like a vatnik
>get banned for being a homosexual
>come back later with a new IP because you just so desperately needed to convince the stupid /k/edditors that those hohol children DESERVE to be missiled
>prove you are a subhuman who deserves no empathy once again
that is pretty sad bro, how much do they pay you for this? do you do it for free?
I will get extra rations of wodka when they mobilize me to the crumple zone.
It's been over a year since the invasion started, why are the snowBlack folk acting like it still hasn't begun? Did they bring back souvenirs from Chernobyl?
>Did they bring back souvenirs from Chernobyl?
Does radiation sickness count?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/unprotected-russian-soldiers-disturbed-radioactive-dust-chernobyls-red-forest-2022-03-28/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/red-forest-chernobyl-radiation-sickness-b2330067.html
>he's back for the third round
are you socially braindead, any normal person would've just conceded after being so handily BTFO but it's touched you on such a deep, emotional level that you have to come back and kiss our feet.
is this how things are done in your country?