Whats stopping Putin from asking big bro Xi to send him a small army of 10 million Chinese volunteers to fight for him? Of course these volunteers would get valuable combat experience the Chinese badly need for their invasion of Taiwan. As for what the experience entails, they can partake in the 1 million men amphibious invasion in the beaches of Odessa. They will also participate in the 5 million men blockade and eventual occupation of Kiev, a major urban center with valuable urban warfare experience. Putin could also give Xi better trade deals and discounts in resources.
Win-Win situation where both parties walk out as winners.
The PLA probably can’t which is why they haven’t deployed anywhere since the 70s. It’s a branch of the CCP and thoroughly corrupt.
Because china has claim on huge chunk of russian clay and why would they not see their rivals weaken?
Why would they want one their allies to weaken? Better to get better trade deals from Russia than see Russia get collapse and have nato troops in your northern border.
They are not allies lmao.
They basically are except not officially like NATO
They basically are except they are not at all. Chinks haven't moved a muscle to help out Russia in any appreciable way in this conflict. They've agreed to let west destroy Russia back when Xi met with Biden about 3 month ago. Obviously they will get something out of it, but that's irrelevant to this conversation.
Because they're heavily dependent on the western industry for their survival. China is not well internally as well, since their party/political cohesion is breaking apart. Not earning what they do from the western market would be a suicide. I think China expected Russia to do well and the conflict resolved quickly so China could move to their ambitions in attacking Taiwan. But the conflict so far gave them a pause, weighting pros and cons, it is better for Russia to weaken heavily for chump change and that Russia is now dependent on China for its own survival since their economy is now in t he toilet.
They really aren't. The Chinese have not been giving Russia any significant support beyond lip service and buying Russian resources at an enormous discount. Russia has tried asking China for military hardware or parts for missiles but China said no. The only countries that have replied to Russia's requests for material were North Korea, Iran and Belarus. China on the other hand wouldn't even let them use UnionPay after they got booted from SWIFT.
because they are gas stop at best for them or a buffer between them and west. In other words russians are just wienersleeves for chinks
NATO would never place troops in Siberia anyways.
Worst case for Russia is a civil war and China just takes over Vladivostok and the resource rich areas.
Then the sinofication education camps will pop up to teach mandarin and ccp values.
>China
>allies
You should learn more about China.
Russia has nothing to offer beyond gas and oil and in about 30 years those will be worth shit since entire world is moving away from them.
You mean Europe and USA is going to use meme solar and wind power?
Enjoy your power cuts and you will eat the bugs.
>solar
>wind
Just because you fricked it up doesn't mean competent western engineers do, Ivan.
The UK, for example, is planning to build up to seven more nuclear power plants. The UK is doing the right thing imo, by having a split system for energy generation. Like 25% oil, 25% gas, 25% wind + solar + tidal and 25% nuclear. This is pretty much what everybody should do imo. It limits impacts like this war has shown on nations (like Germany) which are predominately powered by gas and oil, it keeps the green people happy (excluding nuclear boogeyman) and it doesn't cripple industries and nations that rely on gas and oil exports (like Norway).
The issue with wind, which a lot of people don't factor in or notice, is that the energy required to build the level of quality needed for wind turbines is huge and that means that the energy the wind turbines make (which is never 100% efficient) is already negative before it starts. Ignoring all the other issues with it. Solar is the same but not as bad iirc. Nuclear power is great but it should really only be in 'safe' nations where there isn't likely to be tornados or earthquakes or storms and they have the competency to not frick it.
as a reminder, they build systems to accomodate the fact that wind and solar power are inconsistent with the higher and lower power draws of the world
There are water systems where when there's a surplus they pump water up, and when there's a deficit they drain it create more power
There's also battery systems but batteries for it being 2022 are actually such dogshit it barely matters
itd take a lot of money, but we can just make manmade permanently producing power sources other than nuclear but nuclear is really good too
Pidorashka.
Russia is 4% of China's economy. Russia is fundamentally insignificant to China, this is why Chinese companies have been self-sanctioning Russia. TSMC deciding that a Chinese reseller of semiconductors for appliance manufacture has violated their purchasing agreement by selling chips straight to Russia and assessing a 20% price penalty would do more damage to China than the complete destruction of Russia.
China has no allies.Everything Russia does China could do better if they controlled it.
Lmao China has no allies.
Just countries that are favourable to them for some reason or other.
China doesn’t want a video of their soldiers being massacred by white people.
this. i think china knows that they would get slaughtered wholesale. chinks are horrible at fighting. Black folk slaughter slants regularly in cities etc.
Xi will refuse. Their "alliance" is tenuous at best and is only really because they are the two biggest powers in opposition to the West culturally/politically. They wouldn't even sell them weapons at first. They don't want any of the static Putin is getting now from the rest of the world for his moronic invasion.
Neither of them have any way of supporting that deployment and they'd all starve/eat each other in 3 weeks.
NATO would get involved and effortlessly crush both forces.
Xi doesn't give a frick about Putin. Monke told him during the Olympics this'll all be a quick war and how the west will be humiliated. Instead he fricked it all up and probably made the Chinese rethink their plans for Taiwan for the immediate future.
hey tard, havent u played hoi4? he, ofc, dont want increase the world tension by doin that.
>Whats stopping Putin from asking big bro Xi to send him a small army of 10 million Chinese volunteers to fight for him?
the Chinese are too smart to be Russian pets, they don't have the same relationship as Israel and it's Western lackeys, you can't just snap fingers and have unlimited foreign cannon fodder dying for you
>can't even supply 300k soldiers
>lets add 10mil
do you want a strategic tang victory? because this is how you get a strategic tang victory
>Putin could also give Xi better trade deals and discounts in resources.
He is already giving those to Xi. You underestimate how much of a frick up this entire thing was economically for Russia. Xi doesn't have to do anything as with each day the Russians become more and more economically dependant on China.
Because due sanctions, RussBlack folk are now more dependent on China to supply with what they lack now. The end will end in one way, Russia now being a vassal state to China, indebted forever and ever until their collapse
>Whats stopping Putin from asking big bro Xi
Absolutely nothing. The problem is chinks don't like supporting losers.
Why would China sacrifice its economy to help Russia? Despite their rhetoric they’re more economically tied with the West now and the CCP bureaucrats would like to keep their wealth instead of it being frozen by western sanctions.
>face logistical issues with 200k soldiers 60 km from the border
>asking for 10kk!
>power having 1kk
>invites 10kk
Who the frick is Machiavelly?
Literally afraid of sanctions. Imagine not being able to sell Chinese trinkets to the US market. The hive would collapse.
your average american 10yo has more practical experience with a gun than the average PLA soldier. can't have any of their little buglings ACTUALLY learning how to fight, that would be a threat to the party
It literally takes 10 mins to learn though.
Chinese don't even want to sell their cars and cell phones in russia, let alone send some bugmen to die in Putin's war.
>small army of 10 million Chinese volunteers
the chinese army is 2 million at the ready on paper, which is pathetically small compared to their population. being a soldier is not a respected or well paid job in china
He shouldn't because the war in Ukraine won't be decided by the number of grunts on the ground. What Russia should be asking China is for 300mm GMLRS for their BM30's so they can strike at targets up to 300km away without having to use that many Iskanders which are much more expensive
Also more recon drones, China's CH-5 UAV has a loitering time of up to 60h
China probably wants this war to end fast, they get more money from trade with all of the world than by supplying Russia with weapons
At this point China also benefits from this war because It prevents the US from fully pivoting to Asia since European countries now want even more US ground presence in Europe which translates into more boots on the ground, more tanks and resources poured onto the ground forces.
The US should instead be focusing more on their Navy because their current fleet is old and ships are getting decomissioned much faster than what the USN can build to replace them all while their main geopolitical rival, China is building up theirs at an alarming pace.
This war clearly gives China the time to keep building up their Navy unopposed (even the launch of the Type 003 was quickly drowed by more news of the Ukranian War)
>It prevents the US from fully pivoting to Asia
when will the piviot be complete in your eyes? America presence in asia is well documented, its initiatives are becoming more numerous. QUAD, IPEF, AUKUS, Clean Network.
>European countries now want even more US ground presence
They were doing it before the invasion, they always want more doesnt mean America gives them more.
>This war clearly gives China the time to keep building up their Navy unopposed.
unopposed how? Like China every country in Asia is engaged in an arms race and is beefing up their navies because of the zhangs. Indonesia, Philippines, India, Korea, Taiwan, Australia etc.
>(even the launch of the Type 003 was quickly drowed by more news of the Ukranian War)
Why wouldnt it be there's a war going on Europe that's involving a "Great Power", China's new carrier isnt a surprise and has been talked about for months
It's a tossup
>china thinks russians are too moronic to operate chinese equipment
>china thinks their own equipment is garbage and don't want the moronic russians debut it
the reason china will always talk and do nothing is to save face. it's a sum 0 game
>chinese economy is dependent on producing cheap goods for the west
>openly side with russia
>get embargo'd aswel
>no more buyers for your cheap goods
>economy collapses
>all manufacturing that went to china moves back to the west
something along those lines probably
>Whats stopping Putin from asking big bro Xi
Ongoing cooperation?
No, limitis partnership.
Chinks are foaming at Putin for starting this shit since it destroyed their Belt and Road initiative. Why the frick would they help?
Erm, a lot of Belt and Road was about creating trade lines that bypassed the existing ones going through Russia. If at all, B&R is why this war isn't a total debacle for the Chinese' trade with Europe. It's still bad for them overall, but it could have been a lot worse.
The BRI would never be complete without the US roads connecting the US and South America
Honestly I feel Russia needs to collapse so this can actually happen tbh.
I'm sure it will eventually, given the world's two biggest players will want the sick dog out of the way. Only a matter of time now.
Randomly off-topic but related. Remember a few years ago some businessman came up with the idea for a motorway/highway from London to New York? It was an awesome idea and I loved it until I realised he proposed that it went through fricking Siberia. Ignoring the fact you're dead if your car breaks, but that shit would become Mad fricking Max with Monglians on fricking beat up IZH's.
The fact that it will paint a target on China's back and it would give the West the excuse they needed to destroy China. Putin might as well ask them to invade Taiwan.
Chinese invasion of Europe would require NATO to respond with nuclear weapons - first against Russia as a punishment, then against China as deterrent.
Why would Russia and China want to get 100% destroyed and irradiated for such a small place like Ukraine?
China wants to openly make itself an enemy to the west just to help Russia out of it's own frick up?
And how are they going to feed 10 million people in a broken war torn Ukraine.
The Chinese care only about themselves, and their bottom line would be hurt more by actively aiding the Russians than just standing at the side-lines. Further, the Chinese are probably not strong enough yet to take a proactive approach. They talk a big game, but that's par for the course with modern despotism, democracies keep their mouth shut about the capabilities and even understate their true strength, while dictatorships yell out every arms purchase with megaphones.
Their population may be rabid nationalists but that won't magically fix problems of logistics or the massive corruption that comes with being a dictatorship.
I bet Putin asked. But Xi said NO.
>small army of 10 million
Anon....
Plus, China's economy is already in serious risk of enormous recession. The CCP are evil, but they aren't that stupid.
LOL
>Hey Xi, you know we've flooded China with natural gas at a loss for like over half a century... can we have some help
>不
How many NATO soldiers have died in Ukraine again?
The chinese do not serve russia, it's other way around, lol
China is going to slice Russia like a Christmas ham, Putin is too weak to be an ally
Chinks are so fricking ungrateful! Don't they remember what Russia did for them! We helped liberate them from Japanese! We help kick out American dogs! And this is how they repay us? At our time of need, when we must stand together against Nazi scum they don't even send a brigade!
Never forget it was Russia who help rebuild China! Why u no show gratitude?
They're not as "bros" as you think, 10 million infantrymen would be nice food for artillery and not much else, and your entire understanding of the conditions is both hilarious and baffling at the same time.
xi would laugh in his face
They already have boots on the ground, participating as "tuvan" or some other siberian minority