what's a decent alternative to this for cqb with enough penetrating power to get thru medium to heavy body armor?

what's a decent alternative to this for cqb with enough penetrating power to get thru medium to heavy body armor?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    yeah

    yeah

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Go out of way to make people click on the OP to see wtf you're talking about
    ass

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sorry, my bad

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anyway, what does your question mean? What problem do you have with 7.62?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not that I don't like 7.62 it's just that I really like .308 winchester in a semi auto platform. That being said, it might not be worth the trouble if its significantly more expensive for no real benefit.

          Honestly tho I just really liked the HK51 clone that PTR made, it seems really ergonomic. I'm a huge noob in the hobby tho, only ever had pistols and looking to get my first rifle.

          • 3 weeks ago
            yeah

            7.62x51=.308

            Nothing you can afford or find for sale can penetrate armor. Buy an AR-15.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What kind of armor do the fedboys wear? In case texas invades.

              • 3 weeks ago
                yeah

                Level IV. Which means it stops .308 AP. Which means no ammo you can buy will work.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Gay.

                So should I just buy a $500 ar15?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no ammo you can buy will work.
                Find a supplier of forged titanium in the size you need and make your own AP rounds.
                Expensive sure, but hardly impossible.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Titanium is too light you need tungsten you clown, and anyone who needs walked through any of this is not going to be machining tungsten any time soon.

                Gay.

                So should I just buy a $500 ar15?

                Yes. Grab a cheap AR, at least 10 mags, a red dot, a light, and a sling. And learn to shoot people in the dick if they're wearing armor.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >feds wear level iv plates
                Okay fedgay

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao holy frick that’s sad. Is this one of those “Sicario FBI agent nobody wants around or gives a frick about because she won’t shut the frick up” situations?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How do you expect to penetrate Level IV plates with .308 out of a 8.5 in barrel? That shit is moving at 7.62x39 speeds

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for resaying what I said, but the part about an 8.5" barrel is irrelevant since it's not going to from a 30" barrel either.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Caius

            The problem with the gun you posted is that it's an unreliable POS known for imploding in various ways after only a couple hundred rounds. The chambering itself is fine for a PDW, in theory. 308 win will get you higher pressures and better penetration against stuff like steel vs. 7.62 nato, but neither will defeat level 4 armor.

            7.62x51=.308

            Nothing you can afford or find for sale can penetrate armor. Buy an AR-15.

            >7.62x51=.308
            Are you trolling

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Are you trolling
              nobody cares about the difference anon.
              >ree but totally it matters
              it doesn't

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      weak eyes

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    anon, "heavy" body armor stops .30-06 AP out of a full length barrel. That short barrel ain't going to pen a damn thing.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    10inch 50 beo pistol

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a suicide bomb

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just shoot em in the pelvis

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Swap in a .277 barrel

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