What would be the difference between these 4 battalions?

I'm comparing how different militaries organize their divisions for shits and giggles, and upon further examination, motorized infantry units with these symbols use comparable equipment, yet different symbols.
Does someone know the NATO standard for these?

Also post unit infographs or any other cool organisational stuff if you want.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Regular Infantry
    Motorized Infantry
    Wheeled cross country capable infantry
    Armored wheeled cross country capable infantry.
    Whats your point?

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    APP-6 is the standard. In practice they just get more an more specific, the first one is plain infantry but unmotorized infantry does not exist in practice today, then you have in order, motorized infantry, motorized infantry with wheeled vehicles, and motorized infantry with armored wheeled vehicles.

    As far as I know, the wheeled modifier in US Army usage separates Stryker units from Bradley units.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_Joint_Military_Symbology

      You're probably gone by now, but whatever. So all four are friendly (blue border) Infantry (cross icon) battalion/regiment/squadrons ("II" on top).

      The first is just regular Infantry, hence the cross icon.
      The second is Motorized Infantry (cross icon with vertical bar for motorized; think HMMV or MRAP)
      The third isn't a thing. It has the "wheeled " icon (3 circles) but no armor icon (oval like #4) or motorized bar. Are they on tactical bicycles?
      The fourth is Mechanized Infantry with wheeled armor that have machine gun turrets instead of autocannons (Cross icon with oval for armor and 3 circles for wheeled; think Stryker or BRT-80). FYI cannoned armor would have a vertical bar to the left of the oval.

      Cheers i was just curious what the different symbols meant, especially since today these troops all seem to use either, Mrap-type vehicles, wheeled APCs without turrets or at most weapon stations, or wheeled IFVs, but it seemed random at times which symbol they used.

      Shit, forgot pic

      [...]
      Nah, circles are not plain ass vehicles but offroad capable ones. Vertical line is plain ass

      3rd motorized recon platoon of the 64th something?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If you want to peruse like 900 pages of shit on it, look up MIL-STD-2525D. It's mostly pictures and all the non-appendix shit is 60 pages.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I'll take a look at least haha, as if all of those symbols get used, let alone anyone can remember all of that.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >3rd motorized recon platoon of the 64th something?
        Exactly. The number on the right is always the next higher independent unit. In this case
        3rd Platoon, 64th (independent) motorized recon Company

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          A 64th Company would be highly unusual. But if an army had several independent recon companies which could be attached to other units it would be probable

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Do units that are labeled as 'independent' actually have a different mission set compared to units that are actually attached to their parent divisions?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Depends. They can be used in a more flexible way which is much easier if they are not attached
            Think US Tank Destroyer Battalions in WW2

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_Joint_Military_Symbology

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You're probably gone by now, but whatever. So all four are friendly (blue border) Infantry (cross icon) battalion/regiment/squadrons ("II" on top).

    The first is just regular Infantry, hence the cross icon.
    The second is Motorized Infantry (cross icon with vertical bar for motorized; think HMMV or MRAP)
    The third isn't a thing. It has the "wheeled " icon (3 circles) but no armor icon (oval like #4) or motorized bar. Are they on tactical bicycles?
    The fourth is Mechanized Infantry with wheeled armor that have machine gun turrets instead of autocannons (Cross icon with oval for armor and 3 circles for wheeled; think Stryker or BRT-80). FYI cannoned armor would have a vertical bar to the left of the oval.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Funnily enough, there is a modifier for bicycles which is just one circle on the bottom. Unarmored wheeled could imply they have just trucks but it's redundant with the just motorized one, never seen one.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Ah, right you are, kek.
        But yeah, unarmored wheeled would just be motorized, though I guess either's technically correct to the MILSTD. I enjoy all the symbols.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you like you can decode this

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Shit, forgot pic

      APP-6 is the standard. In practice they just get more an more specific, the first one is plain infantry but unmotorized infantry does not exist in practice today, then you have in order, motorized infantry, motorized infantry with wheeled vehicles, and motorized infantry with armored wheeled vehicles.

      As far as I know, the wheeled modifier in US army usage separates Stryker units from Bradley units.

      Nah, circles are not plain ass vehicles but offroad capable ones. Vertical line is plain ass

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        To be more soecific

        Vertical line: Vehicles are regular mil vehicles which are of course offroad capable. Think of Humvees or 6x6 trucks, at least nowadays
        Three circles in the lower part: cross country capable vehicles. More offroad capable than regular vehicles.

        In reality there's not much difference anymore. I also don't know any unit which is cross country capable (by definition of their symbol) but ain't armored

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Btw, i stumbled across this chart of the German Army organisation.
    Is it normal for a tank brigade to only have a single tank battalion but several mechanized or motorized battalions?

    I've compared this to US Armored brigade combat team, Russia, UK, France and some others and it seems to be unusual, only other country i could find with single tank battalions was Japan.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Best symbol coming in

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