Will we even have a meat grinder? Russia spent a lot of it's momentum and Ukraine is still preparing for a counteroffensive. Both sides seem incapable and unwilling to attempt an offensive right now.
Isn't Ukraine pushing to Kherson? And last 2 weeks Russia gained more ground that last 3 months, they will probably stall soon but right now momentum is there, on both sides
And yet the progress is steady and notable. Ukies taking selfies in villages they simply didn't have control over a couple months ago.
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Then you won't mind showing it?
2 years ago
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>Then you won't mind showing it?
Sure
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>taking selfies in villages
Aha.
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They've been making progress at a gradual, steady rate, much like Russia in the east.
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Yeah, nice selfies.
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>An irrelevant conclusion, also known as ignoratio elenchi (Latin for 'ignoring refutation') or missing the point, is the informal fallacy of presenting an argument that may or may not be logically valid and sound, but (whose conclusion) fails to address the issue in question.
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Hey dipshit. Words have meaning. If you say there are selfies, show them.
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It's pretty clear his main argument is Ukraine is moving forward in Kherson, but you know that, and you don't want to talk about it, so you're trying to drive focus on some irrelevant detail to derail the convo, and I'm not going to let you. We're done here
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>Ukraine is moving forward in Kherson
Not for the past two months it's not.
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Ukrainians are in Kyselivka now and have direct artillery range over Kherson city as well as Chernobaivka air port.
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>Ukrainians are in Kyselivka now
On twitter, yes.
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Im sure that artillery will last long
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500 artillery pieces coming from nato cope
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Yeah, nice selfies.
not those anons but that's 50% of what you asked for
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And it just further proves the line has been stationary for 2 months. Which goes against Ukrainian claims about a counteroffensive for those two months.
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>Which goes against Ukrainian claims about a counteroffensive for those two months.
I know it's just your guys's thing to ignore the information right in front of you but come on. Your map is right here
https://i.imgur.com/GLlTKQC.jpg
>Then you won't mind showing it?
Sure
You asked for two things, you were provided one of two things, and now you claim both are fake because you still want thing two
Ukrainians are taking villages in grey zone and reporting it few times every day
They actually tried to push but got rekt at davydov brid
That was their most recent attempt to actually push
Seeing the world being rid of that centuries old tumour would be wonderful. Real progress could finally happen in a significant portion of the world without r*ssoids holding everyone back.
Putin publicly declared today that the eastern units will rest and recover to regather combat strength. All Russians are liars obviously, but I doubt there will be much fighting for some weeks and it will be a static stalemate with less losses than before.
its the end of offenses.. russia has achieved all its goals and ukraine has no capability beyond costly defnesive action and it is running starkly out of western weapons this seems conclusion phase.. russia keeps 1/3rd of land while nato jumps up and down in hysterics until winter when they need russian gas...
Ukraine has no offensive capability but they have stalled out the remnants of an army that belonged to one of only two superpowers in history right on their doorstep.
>nato jumps up and down in hysterics until winter when they need russian gas...
German collapse makes western support for ukraine disappear and then Russia comes in for round two. Ukraine is doomed.
Russia is going to run out of ammo long before winter even happens, lol. Ukraine has forced an "operational pause" on Russia due to ammo depots being wiped out.
I'd like to see Ukraine broker a mission where a NATO detachment occupies the western half of the country and establishes a no fly zone, freeing up units to go on the offensive in the east. It's pretty obvious Poland wants to do that, and it would probably deter Lukashenko from getting involved.
In my ass
>fpbp
I'm still getting my anus in premium condition to compete.
Unironically Mariupol again
Nykolaev
Will we even have a meat grinder? Russia spent a lot of it's momentum and Ukraine is still preparing for a counteroffensive. Both sides seem incapable and unwilling to attempt an offensive right now.
Isn't Ukraine pushing to Kherson? And last 2 weeks Russia gained more ground that last 3 months, they will probably stall soon but right now momentum is there, on both sides
>Isn't Ukraine pushing to Kherson?
Nope.
ignore all those mysterious fires breaking out all over kherson that's just the ghost of kiev
Kramatorsk sounds cool so hopefully there but it seems a bit far from the front lines for Russia to get there this decade.
I suspect Russia took a frickton of damage in the twin cities, not helped by them ruining all the local infrastructure.
And now Ukraine is blasting Russia's ammo supplies so Russia is probably not going to be able to press forward much more.
The next real fight is Kherson.
Kramatorsk and Kherson are my bets.
Ukraine is battering Russia's ability to defend Kherson. Sooner or later, they'll take it.
https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-advancing-kherson-zaporizhzhia-oblasts-091900809.html
Steiner’s counter attack is going to put them right next to Moscow in 2 more weeks
We will be in Kiev in 2 weeks so long as we keep making the same Steiner joke.
I bet you were one of the people saying Kyiv would fall and all the victories in the north were fake.
Why do you think Kherson won't be attacked soon? All evidence so far is pointing to a very slow, but consistent push in the Kherson region
They've been counterattacking on Twitter for two months now. Anybody believing a word they say is pretty gullible at this point.
And yet the progress is steady and notable. Ukies taking selfies in villages they simply didn't have control over a couple months ago.
Then you won't mind showing it?
>Then you won't mind showing it?
Sure
>taking selfies in villages
Aha.
They've been making progress at a gradual, steady rate, much like Russia in the east.
Yeah, nice selfies.
>An irrelevant conclusion, also known as ignoratio elenchi (Latin for 'ignoring refutation') or missing the point, is the informal fallacy of presenting an argument that may or may not be logically valid and sound, but (whose conclusion) fails to address the issue in question.
Hey dipshit. Words have meaning. If you say there are selfies, show them.
It's pretty clear his main argument is Ukraine is moving forward in Kherson, but you know that, and you don't want to talk about it, so you're trying to drive focus on some irrelevant detail to derail the convo, and I'm not going to let you. We're done here
>Ukraine is moving forward in Kherson
Not for the past two months it's not.
Ukrainians are in Kyselivka now and have direct artillery range over Kherson city as well as Chernobaivka air port.
>Ukrainians are in Kyselivka now
On twitter, yes.
Im sure that artillery will last long
500 artillery pieces coming from nato cope
not those anons but that's 50% of what you asked for
And it just further proves the line has been stationary for 2 months. Which goes against Ukrainian claims about a counteroffensive for those two months.
>Which goes against Ukrainian claims about a counteroffensive for those two months.
I know it's just your guys's thing to ignore the information right in front of you but come on. Your map is right here
You asked for two things, you were provided one of two things, and now you claim both are fake because you still want thing two
Ukrainians are taking villages in grey zone and reporting it few times every day
They actually tried to push but got rekt at davydov brid
That was their most recent attempt to actually push
>right next to Moscow in 2 more weeks
Oh, good! I win the Bingo! I predicted that vatBlack folk would be defending Moscow by August.
Three.
More.
Weeks.
Ukraine will continue to lose in the east but eventually will retake the south. Maybe even crimea if they are lucky
Assuming Russia doesn't get its ammo supply so wrecked, it can continue to press forward.
>gay rights in the same column as Zionism and blacked porn
Interesting.
Interesting.
>BLACKED porn
But I'm not Serbian?
No, you’re even worse, mutted up amerishart who supports globohomo
>mutted up amerishart
Lotta projection there buddy.
Bakhmut, Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Avdeevka then it's gonna be a smooth ride to zaporozhye, krivoy rog and kharkiv, then to kiev
>AT L-LEAST YOU HAVEN'T TAKE MOSCOW YET
Is this really how far vatBlack folk have fallen?
There's still a good ways to fall.
> t. balkanization
Seeing the world being rid of that centuries old tumour would be wonderful. Real progress could finally happen in a significant portion of the world without r*ssoids holding everyone back.
>no Sakha republic
Come on, it's one of the few national republics in RF that have majority native population
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1545225476809101313
More black smoke coming from Kherson
Probably another fuel or ammo depot/train that the Ukranians hit. I don't see them advancing into Kherson without enveloping it first.
Putin publicly declared today that the eastern units will rest and recover to regather combat strength. All Russians are liars obviously, but I doubt there will be much fighting for some weeks and it will be a static stalemate with less losses than before.
>vatniks will get some sleep
[ X ] DOUBT
>rest and recover
how long till the vatniks call it a day? Before or after Kiev?
its the end of offenses.. russia has achieved all its goals and ukraine has no capability beyond costly defnesive action and it is running starkly out of western weapons this seems conclusion phase.. russia keeps 1/3rd of land while nato jumps up and down in hysterics until winter when they need russian gas...
yes just like how Ukraine would collapse in 2014 without Russian gas
>russia has achieved all its goals
Yeah like the Ukrainians sitting 5 km from Donetsk
who cares.... ukraine was demilized in the first hours of the first phase.. no offensing capability at all..
post Kiev
Ukraine has no offensive capability but they have stalled out the remnants of an army that belonged to one of only two superpowers in history right on their doorstep.
Dvornikov's counterattack will put us within range of Kyiv any day now.
>nato jumps up and down in hysterics until winter when they need russian gas...
German collapse makes western support for ukraine disappear and then Russia comes in for round two. Ukraine is doomed.
>Ukraine is doomed
Russia is going to run out of ammo long before winter even happens, lol. Ukraine has forced an "operational pause" on Russia due to ammo depots being wiped out.
Izyum/Slovyansk and Kherson.
Donetsk looks like a sweet target without defenders and ammo depots, still, it's too big to be taken without encirclement.
>satanic Zionist rule secured
Nothing will change?
I'd like to see Ukraine broker a mission where a NATO detachment occupies the western half of the country and establishes a no fly zone, freeing up units to go on the offensive in the east. It's pretty obvious Poland wants to do that, and it would probably deter Lukashenko from getting involved.
Belorussian front opens.
Meat grinder for both sides.