What will be Russian main tank busting method for the Ukrainian counter-offensive?
>ATGMs, might have trouble penetrating from the front side
>artillery, probably few guided shells in stock
>tanks, Western tanks will have longer targeting than the older models Russia has left
>top-down attack ATGM, not aware Russia has any
>drones?
>mines?
No doubt some Western tanks will fall. What will be the main cause? Place your predictions
>What will be the main cause?
Treads gunked up with vatnik corpses.
>might have trouble penetrating from the front side
the russians are dumb but not dumb enough to build atgms that are useless against tanks from the front
But they are smart enough to claim a higher penetration and then bribing test officials when competing for state contracts such that new yachts can be funded.
Hell, they don't even have to be sneaky about it - slap some kontact1 on a t55 during the test, substitute in 200mm for kontact1 's effective protective capacities, and wa la.
Use real du/composite when testing? Please, where would we even get a sample?
The same stuff that’s destroying Ukraine’s tanks already, probably. Mostly ATGMs, sometimes tanks, arty and mines.
>longer detection range or something
Doesn’t matter unless the western tanks can see and shoot through thick, solid cover
>Doesn’t matter unless the western tanks can see and shoot through thick, solid cover
Can I interest you in a short talk about our Lord and saviour, modern drones?
Shovels
They already called off the counter-offensive because of the intel leak.
Mobniks getting caught in the tracks during a trench run, too much of a PR disaster to show Westerners but it'll be massively shared among easties
Mines, ATGMs, and artillery cluster munitions. Most footage we will get will be Lancets or some dumb shit like that
>ATGMs, might have trouble penetrating from the front side
The frick is this nafo delusion lol
Any Kornet can and will go through the front armor of everything on field.
Bradley's will be like piercing butter.
Russian doctrine, as Soviet doctrine was, is to use artillery against armor. Artillery does not require precision guided shells to directly hit armored vehicles. 155 mm shells exploding within 25 meters of armor will do enough damage to road wheels, treads, optics and mounted accessories to render the vehicle combat ineffective until repairs are made.
Artillery is the King of Battle.
US Army testing at Fort Sill Oklahoma confirmed that direct hits are not required for 155 mm artillery shells to render tanks combat ineffective until repairs are made.
>Artillery is the King of Battle.
Only if you are a total moron who sends all tanks in a big bundle driving in a straight line, aka if you act like a Russian commander.
Artillery will barely hit a stationary tank, they are not going to hit a moving tank, especially not Russian artillery.
To be fair, Russia scatters it's artillery so much and is so inaccurate that lucky hits will happen without actual intent.
You've seen how fricking bad their accuracy is so the scatter shot method will likely do better at hitting than actively trying to hit.
Russia is losing, loser
Great question that we cant really answer, even in the beginning of the special military operation we have seen mobiks with rpg-7's so I dont think they have much in the way of combating tanks outside of arty and other tanks
As long as the Russians have forward observers and artillery arrayed across the battle space armor will not have a great effect.
Artillery trumps armor every time. As long as the Russians can prevent Ukrainian air to surface attacks on their artillery and have an artillery advantage the Russians will control the battle space.
Also consider a modern tank division that numbers 400 modern main battle tanks requires 600,000 gallons of fuel to operate every day. You are talking about 100 fuel trucks that only carry 5,000 gallons of fuel at a time operating near the forward edge of the battle space along with their support personnel and equipment.
As long as the Russians have artillery and forward observers and can prevent Ukrainian air forces from engaging their artillery the advantage is to the Russians, by a long shot. Meat grinder it is.
Do you think that artillery works like in World of Tanks?
Are you trying to claim Ukraine is going to have logistics issues in it's own fricking borders while russians store stuff dumped in piles in random feilds and are doing A-OK?
Eastern Ukraine has many rivers that funnel armor onto bridges that the Russians will have under observation. How is the Ukrainian army going to defend their fuel trucks from drones with hand grenades ?
How do you sustain an armored assault without delivering fuel to the armored division on the march ?
Add in Russian forward observers calling in artillery on the armor itself.
>How is the Ukrainian army going to defend their fuel trucks from drones with hand grenades ?
It's unfortunate that, in 2023, we have yet to develop any weapons that can hit a flying target
ATGMs will be a very big threat since as far as I know the donated tanks don't have APS. Trophy beating kornet isn't really much use if you don't actually have it.
you're also forgetting russia has trouble supply ATGM ammo
It’s going to go like this. Bradleys will kill everything. You will seethe about it too
No way the holhols are getting past his
Just use NATO magic pixie dust to protect the fuel trucks.