Nope. The F-15s would rek Russia's shitty planes and push them out of Ukraine airspace. The A-10s would then clean up on the Russian infantry and tanks on the ground, bombing the shit out them at-will. Game over, Boris. Go KYS.
They would get fucked by AA. Maybe if they got given some kind of stealth capability, but then Russia would probably escalate to nukes and win.
inb4 NATO would nuke Russia over Ukraine. NATO wouldn't do shit. They are terrified of escalation.
F-15 isnt invincible
A-10 is just a PR plane at this point, remeber most of their CAS work is done with maveriks you can literally strap to a Cesna
1 month ago
Anonymous
>F-15 isnt invincible
although the aged soviet-era AA would have difficulty doing anything other than annoy them
even modern, western AA would have difficulty countering even last-gen fighters
if you want to knock them out of the sky then your only option is to fight ship-to-ship
>Ukraine would still lose with those.
Funny they're already winning without them!
They would get fucked by AA. Maybe if they got given some kind of stealth capability, but then Russia would probably escalate to nukes and win.
inb4 NATO would nuke Russia over Ukraine. NATO wouldn't do shit. They are terrified of escalation.
>They would get fucked by AA. Maybe if they got given some kind of stealth capability,
Lol, Russia's AA was only able to shoot down their own jets >but then Russia would probably escalate to nukes and win.
They don't have any nukes, even if they did and used them, they would immediately be blown up till Russia stopped existing. >inb4 NATO would nuke Russia over Ukraine. NATO wouldn't do shit. They are terrified of escalation.
Lol, they're terrified of imaginary nukes and lack of Russia oil. If Russia escalates then their fears are realized and all there is left is to nuke you
We have M4s and they're making us swap them for 416s soon. I would rather have an M16A1, not only for the meme but they're lighter and 20" M193 is better suited to fighting across massive open fields. >t. Legionnaire.
The better question is why haven't NATO given Ukraine modern fighters and long range missiles?
The first answer is they don't want Ukraine to win. They always just wanted Ukraine to chip away at Russia, no matter the cost to the Ukrainian people. The second answer is that NATO are terrified of escalation. Either way it is pretty funny.
A gambit counted in the lives of Ukrainian conscripts. What is the benefit in such a delay? To weaken Russia as much as possible. From this we can infer that Russia was right to fear NATO expansionism, as it is clearly designed solely to destroy and weaken Russia. Sad.......
>What is the benefit in such a delay
The benefit is that Russia has done no real preparations for a big war and keeps their industry and society in a state of limbo instead. When it all goes to shit they will need years to unfuck their military situation at which point it will be too late. Yeah Ukraine has to pay in lives for it but it's the only way not to pay with even more lives down the road. The end game of such slow pace is a complete disintegration of Russian state. A final solution to Russian question, if you will.
It's nice to meet an honest poster for once in a while. We agree that the Ukrainians are being used as pawns by the NATO puppeteers to try to destroy Russia. Your reference to the evil Nazi genocide of innocent gnomish people is apt in this context.
It's a dishonest way of framing it. Ukraine would still fight Russia if NATO didn't help. They would lose even more people and lose their statehood if NATO didn't help. Ukraine should be and is glad to receive any help at all, Finland didn't have this kind of help during Winter war, for instance. If NATO chose any other way of dealing with Russia in the end Ukraine would still need to deal with Russia and their chimpouts for decades if not centuries. NATO is making sure nobody has to deal with Russia in any capacity from now on. Total Russian genocide perpetuated mostly by Russians and "Russians", with a solid help from Chinese and Westerners is the only way but first Ukraine has to defeat Russia in this conflict so that the very matter of Russian society collapses.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You know finland received military equipment from both the allies and axis right?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah, in miniscule amounts.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Cough
Cough
Yeah
1 month ago
Anonymous
I just want Russians and Indians permanently cut off from our internet. Yes, I said 'our'.
It's a dishonest way of framing it. Ukraine would still fight Russia if NATO didn't help. They would lose even more people and lose their statehood if NATO didn't help. Ukraine should be and is glad to receive any help at all, Finland didn't have this kind of help during Winter war, for instance. If NATO chose any other way of dealing with Russia in the end Ukraine would still need to deal with Russia and their chimpouts for decades if not centuries. NATO is making sure nobody has to deal with Russia in any capacity from now on. Total Russian genocide perpetuated mostly by Russians and "Russians", with a solid help from Chinese and Westerners is the only way but first Ukraine has to defeat Russia in this conflict so that the very matter of Russian society collapses.
The war would happen sooner or later it was a matter of time
4th gens that can launch modern HARM etc.
Doesn't even need to be relatively top end. Just whatever old F-16s that can operate the missiles would be far beyond modern slavshit for the role.
Biggest problem with said supplying is that theres no training in the systems. That's why Ukraine is using MIGs from ex-bloc nations while they are replacing them with FA-50s etc.
Quality 4th gen fighter jets
Ukraine would still lose with those.
Nope. The F-15s would rek Russia's shitty planes and push them out of Ukraine airspace. The A-10s would then clean up on the Russian infantry and tanks on the ground, bombing the shit out them at-will. Game over, Boris. Go KYS.
They would get fucked by AA. Maybe if they got given some kind of stealth capability, but then Russia would probably escalate to nukes and win.
inb4 NATO would nuke Russia over Ukraine. NATO wouldn't do shit. They are terrified of escalation.
>They would get fucked by AA
russian AA can barely shoot down their own fighters, much less one of the best fighters ever made
F-15 isnt invincible
A-10 is just a PR plane at this point, remeber most of their CAS work is done with maveriks you can literally strap to a Cesna
>F-15 isnt invincible
although the aged soviet-era AA would have difficulty doing anything other than annoy them
even modern, western AA would have difficulty countering even last-gen fighters
if you want to knock them out of the sky then your only option is to fight ship-to-ship
>muh nooks
>the West will not use it's nooks
every single time
>Ukraine would still lose with those.
Funny they're already winning without them!
>They would get fucked by AA. Maybe if they got given some kind of stealth capability,
Lol, Russia's AA was only able to shoot down their own jets
>but then Russia would probably escalate to nukes and win.
They don't have any nukes, even if they did and used them, they would immediately be blown up till Russia stopped existing.
>inb4 NATO would nuke Russia over Ukraine. NATO wouldn't do shit. They are terrified of escalation.
Lol, they're terrified of imaginary nukes and lack of Russia oil. If Russia escalates then their fears are realized and all there is left is to nuke you
F-16s
Another round 60 billion dollars except in monthly installments this time
Chop chop yanks
>F-15 eagle
>M60A3 patton
>M113 APC
>AH-1 cobra
>M16A1
>M60 GPMG
.
Probably not the m60, those are just too old and antiquated, we would more than likely send our old gulf War m240bs or old m249s
We have M4s and they're making us swap them for 416s soon. I would rather have an M16A1, not only for the meme but they're lighter and 20" M193 is better suited to fighting across massive open fields.
>t. Legionnaire.
Literally 10 F-15s and 5 A-10 warthogs would end the war in about 2 weeks.
Callsign Predator in a mech that follows the eastern ammo goblin caves, stopping at the entrance points for a top up.
Quibbling about this or that is blergh, they need volume, minor shit doesnt matter
They need their nOoks back. Thanks pres Clinton. Great job there bub.
The better question is why haven't NATO given Ukraine modern fighters and long range missiles?
The first answer is they don't want Ukraine to win. They always just wanted Ukraine to chip away at Russia, no matter the cost to the Ukrainian people. The second answer is that NATO are terrified of escalation. Either way it is pretty funny.
The answer is very simple. They want Russia to think that this is winnable up until the moment it's all lost.
A gambit counted in the lives of Ukrainian conscripts. What is the benefit in such a delay? To weaken Russia as much as possible. From this we can infer that Russia was right to fear NATO expansionism, as it is clearly designed solely to destroy and weaken Russia. Sad.......
>What is the benefit in such a delay
The benefit is that Russia has done no real preparations for a big war and keeps their industry and society in a state of limbo instead. When it all goes to shit they will need years to unfuck their military situation at which point it will be too late. Yeah Ukraine has to pay in lives for it but it's the only way not to pay with even more lives down the road. The end game of such slow pace is a complete disintegration of Russian state. A final solution to Russian question, if you will.
It's nice to meet an honest poster for once in a while. We agree that the Ukrainians are being used as pawns by the NATO puppeteers to try to destroy Russia. Your reference to the evil Nazi genocide of innocent gnomish people is apt in this context.
It's a dishonest way of framing it. Ukraine would still fight Russia if NATO didn't help. They would lose even more people and lose their statehood if NATO didn't help. Ukraine should be and is glad to receive any help at all, Finland didn't have this kind of help during Winter war, for instance. If NATO chose any other way of dealing with Russia in the end Ukraine would still need to deal with Russia and their chimpouts for decades if not centuries. NATO is making sure nobody has to deal with Russia in any capacity from now on. Total Russian genocide perpetuated mostly by Russians and "Russians", with a solid help from Chinese and Westerners is the only way but first Ukraine has to defeat Russia in this conflict so that the very matter of Russian society collapses.
You know finland received military equipment from both the allies and axis right?
Yeah, in miniscule amounts.
Cough
Cough
Yeah
I just want Russians and Indians permanently cut off from our internet. Yes, I said 'our'.
Yeah what this anon has said
The war would happen sooner or later it was a matter of time
4th gens that can launch modern HARM etc.
Doesn't even need to be relatively top end. Just whatever old F-16s that can operate the missiles would be far beyond modern slavshit for the role.
Biggest problem with said supplying is that theres no training in the systems. That's why Ukraine is using MIGs from ex-bloc nations while they are replacing them with FA-50s etc.