There is something about UCP that just commands power. Maybe it's because it represents the US at its peak of military influence. Maybe it's just a bunch of post-9/11 media that shows it in all its couch glory.
>There is something about UCP that just commands power.
I've always thought it gave the same impression as stormtrooper armor from Star Wars. All the more so because >it represents the US at its peak of military influence
It just *looks* like the uniform of a superpower that knows its power and doesn't give a frick. >YOU THINK I GIVE A FRICK ABOUT YOU NOT SEEING ME? AIRSTRIKE, b***h >:P
>There is something about UCP that just commands power.
I've always thought it gave the same impression as stormtrooper armor from Star Wars. All the more so because >it represents the US at its peak of military influence
It just *looks* like the uniform of a superpower that knows its power and doesn't give a frick. >YOU THINK I GIVE A FRICK ABOUT YOU NOT SEEING ME? AIRSTRIKE, b***h >:P
It's God's camo. If you were to ever enter heaven you'd see.
If I was being tinfoil hat conspiratorial: >The objective was not camo for field combat, rather camo for police-state military work. Urban camo, rather than woodland, jungle, or desert.
There was no question of American omnipresence on the battlefield at this point. Why would your rank and file infantry need to worry about camo? They wouldn't get bogged down in some Ukrainian fields or South-Pacific Islands. You'd absolutely sweep the competition a'la Iraq 91 and Iraq 03 with artillery and air power and armor mopping it up. Where do you put your infantrymen? In the cities. Doing para-police military work.
Now if you are real tin foil hat you could theorize this kind of camo would then work in an urban environment - in the US. Except not really, and not really in dusty khaki ass Afghanistan and Iraq either. The only place it would is unvarnished untouched cinderblocks and I'm not even sure fricking ghetto ass Haiti or anywhere but MOUT training facilities has unvarnished cinderblock. Like maybe this would work in the streets of DC, but why would you need camo in an urban environment?
So maybe rather than 'it's for URBAN military-policing' it was 'it's for urban military POLICING". Look at . The conspicuousness is a feature not a bug. Again it's the "We have so much air and artillery and armored power that we do not need infantry to hide in the bush, we need them on a street corner." Black is too on the nose, plain olive or khaki is almost too quaintly familiar. Digital pixels in a greyish tone fits the bill of 21st century american century stormtrooper.
Frankly that nobody ever copied it in the same tones speaks volume. M81? Overtook DPM and french lizard in ubiquity. Multicam? Christ Black person even the Russians got it. Everybody likes to ape the US (or has to because it's cheaper). But they didn't for UCP. And I also hate having to always google whether it was OCP or UCP.
Ran out of text but I always think "Universal camo well that's multicam (I don't even like it but thems the breaks)". But no.
Also cadpat and marine camo shows with the right colors it works. I appreciate the marines just sticking to their camo, and honestly being rather autistic about it given they won't share. Better than the army because god knows in a few years the army'll go "Reee we need new camo"
>Frankly that nobody ever copied it in the same tones speaks volume
Many countries did, only more for their assorted gendarmerie and security forces, which only further validates your theory. UCP actually makes a lot more sense when you realize it was more about intimidation and power projection than it was the safety of whoever was wearing it. It served the same purpose as stormtrooper armor.
>Frankly that nobody ever copied it in the same tones speaks volume
Many countries did, only more for their assorted gendarmerie and security forces, which only further validates your theory. UCP actually makes a lot more sense when you realize it was more about intimidation and power projection than it was the safety of whoever was wearing it. It served the same purpose as stormtrooper armor.
>Frankly that nobody ever copied it in the same tones speaks volume
Many countries did, only more for their assorted gendarmerie and security forces, which only further validates your theory. UCP actually makes a lot more sense when you realize it was more about intimidation and power projection than it was the safety of whoever was wearing it. It served the same purpose as stormtrooper armor.
To explain this for morons, the camouflage is designed to make the soldiers easily identifiable to other soldiers of that military. When you have superiority over every sphere of warfare in a theater then you don't need to blend in as much as avoid directing your own assets onto other assets.
I don't have anything to say about the brass's intentions during the trials, but I do as an observer. American servicemen in UCP and associated equipment commanded instant respect. They were immediately recognizable from across the street, and up close their clean-shaven faces, bloused boots, and strapped headgear invoked an aura of order and discipline. Their futuristic accessorized rifles, IBA, and myriad equipment made them seem invincible. Nothing truly compares to the aesthetic practicality of the late 2000s-early 2010s US infantryman.
t. Iraqi
Snus wasnt a popular dip alternative until 2009-10. Like how E Cigs were technically around for yeas but vaping didnt catch on until nearly a decade later
Weathered UCP is god tier.
Not just because it starts to actually work once it gets dirty and the lights darken and the darks fade, but it actually has to be EARNED through actual use. You can't just buy it. Top tier gate keeping.
The common mindset back then was that substantial progress was inevitable and imminent. Such optimism in those days.. instead we got whatever the frick (this) is
A drone corrected mortar also takes 100x as long to get on target and can't be used to engage the same targets as an airburst grenade launcher i.e. inside a window.
ppl don't care about collateral damage nowadays, just destroy everything above and including the room you want cleared with the mortar.
be sure to knock on the roof before hand to get "civilians" out tho lmao
The guys who used it in the 'Stan enjoyed it, but in the end the decision was made that it wasn't enough of an improvement over the M203/320 to warrant the sacrifice of the grenadier's rifle. Sustainability in particular was a huge thing: those big fricking mags only take 4 rounds, so an individual loadout was somewhere around 28 rounds at best, plus whatever else your squad could carry for you (in addition to the extra food for the 2 SAWs that they're already lugging).
Maybe all the computer interlinking between optics and headsets they're working on can get us man-portable airbursts out of an underbarrel, suppose we'll see.
It would be pretty cool if the could use the fuze tech for other man portable boom stuff. Maybe a Smaw round with a frag sleeve. Or for those belt fed grenade launchers.
>but in the end the decision was made that it wasn't enough of an improvement over the M203/320 to warrant the sacrifice of the grenadier's rifle
no it was because somehow some reason it was a warcrime, apparently the ammo counted as exploding bullets which violated the geneva convention. how and why is moronic because its a fricking grenade launcher.
Rifles are always viewed as intended to be used against humans.
for some reason overkilling single targets into paste is frowned upon in humanitarian circles. it doesn't matter that the primary target tanks/fortified positions - some dumb shmuck will shoot a round into a room to clear it quickly. it escalates from there
Rifles are always viewed as intended to be used against humans.
for some reason overkilling single targets into paste is frowned upon in humanitarian circles. it doesn't matter that the primary target tanks/fortified positions - some dumb shmuck will shoot a round into a room to clear it quickly. it escalates from there
>warcrime
literally not what you think
for what you're thinking of, it had to be UNDER a certain amount of explosives, it was OVER, making it legal
the problem was a mixture of cost & production
shit either cost too much to make &/or to be produced en masse, and the production was complicated out of licensing issues because reasons
>for what you're thinking of, it had to be UNDER a certain amount of explosives, it was OVER, making it legal
true but the amount of explosive doesn't matter if it can't be clearly defined what the operator is gonna be shooting at.
you can't shoot a .50 cal at infantry if you have a choice either - warcrime.
>true but the amount of explosive doesn't matter if it can't be clearly defined what the operator is gonna be shooting at. >you can't shoot a .50 cal at infantry if you have a choice either - warcrime.
both still not true
50s can be used
all that shits just fuddlore that even the military believes, and for no good reason
i imagine it started because NCOs thought they knew better (they never do), told everyone that, and nobody wanted to argue with the dumb homosexual, so it just kept getting said until believed
4 months ago
Anonymous
lore first noted in vietnam when command wanted the M2 to be reserved for targeting material and not people, didn't want them wasted on shredding 50 trees because one of them hit a asiatic. It's a warcrime = don't waste as much ammo
When worn/faded and covered in dust it worked actually really well in Afghanistan, but the Army should have just made more color variations and kept the pattern, now everyone uses multicam looking stuff and we need more than ever a more distinct uniform as being seen is less of a problem as being misidentified now.
They wouldn't replace the SAW outright, they'd just make the 250 the "heavy" light machine gun with less movement speed, lower capacity, higher recoil, and more damage and less damage dropoff.
There was a point in time that digital cameras had not so many pixels so using something like this could make enemy detection using digital photography harder.
Also ACU was supposed to have some pretty decent IR dampening effect.
It should work well if someone is looking at you trough something like pic related
Would UCP have been a good camo if it had some black dots to break up the outline? It at least would have been less shitty, right?
SURPAT? More like SURPLUS lmao hahahaha no but for real when is Russia going to start issuing* these?
*selling warehouses-worth of these in mint condition on Ebay or something for reasonable prices
the UDP in that pic is already faded, so it looks the same, but brand new UDP glows like in
https://i.imgur.com/vG2AFhJ.jpg
Would UCP have been a good camo if it had some black dots to break up the outline? It at least would have been less shitty, right?
SURPAT? More like SURPLUS lmao hahahaha no but for real when is Russia going to start issuing* these?
*selling warehouses-worth of these in mint condition on Ebay or something for reasonable prices
because it has straight up silver as a significant color.
The other problem with UDP is that the small blotches, just all looked like a solid color at distance, you can actually kind of see it in that pic if you look at the person on the left who's more out of focus, although generally it's an effect that happens further away.
4 months ago
Anonymous
actually the person in the back right is a better example of it. You can still see blotches on his sleeve whereas his helmet looks closer to being a solid color.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's weird how much something can look cool or ugly based on how the uniform fits
This looks ugly as hell, those dudes look fat and chunky
https://i.imgur.com/z7ZiHBV.jpg
There is something about UCP that just commands power. Maybe it's because it represents the US at its peak of military influence. Maybe it's just a bunch of post-9/11 media that shows it in all its couch glory.
OP pic is clearly not to specification. these are the official UCP shades and I'm not seeing them there
there is no silver in UCP
4 months ago
Anonymous
it fades to light grey, but it is literally silver when it's brand new. I never realized it myself until one day I was in clothing and sales and there was a silver camelback. I was wondering what the hell it was suppose to go with and that's when I saw that brand new UDP is basically silver.
It's just tiger stripe UCP. It still sticks out like a greyish-white sore thumb against any remotely nature-colored background.
there's more to nature than woodland you know and the world isn't a lit computer monitor so digital pictures are inherently a horrible way of accessing camo.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>there's more to nature than woodland you know
yeah
"Frick that guy over there and everyone around him, whether they're wearing armor or not, regardless of whether they're behind cover or in a trench or whatever"
It's what the NGSW should've been.
The real Optimal Camouflage Pattern is issuing new patterns at such an unsustainable tempo that your guys all have five different patterns of gear at all times, creating a macro-macropattern that no one pattern ever could
The camo is suppose to get dirty and blend into it's environment, that looks like a shiney uniform because UCP has a problem that when you keep it clean and throw it into a washer it bleaches into a very bright color. If you were looking at urban pallets for colors it'd fit about as well as putting a pine tree forest color outside a pine tree forest. It works well with sand and rocks, and crab grass or scrubbish looking green things. It's like taking a photo of a guy in OCP in a what field and asking why it doesn't blend but it's okay because it's a typical forest color and it's not a good camo unless it blends in a forest because the military always goes into a forest to fight people in the middle of a forest in no where because that makes so much sense.
Unless you mean the grenade launcher it was a cool concept because why wouldn't you want a grenade launcher then they just decided it needed a gun on it. So then it turned into a gun with a super expensive grenade launcher with no compatibility with anything else so they just got a grenade launcher to attach to their gun that could also be used as a single shot without the gun. I just feel personally attacked people go after UCP so much I've never met a single person that likes it and it does make sense in the context it's suppose to fit in. You know what good camoflage does? You get to joke with someone they didn't notice you because you forgot you had it on.
Every uniform blends in with its environment when it's covered in a deployment's worth of...the environment, and OCP (i.e., royalty-free Multicam) would probably do just fine in a wheat field, since it's specifically designed to be nonspecific and perform adequately everywhere except impenetrable, verdant jungles, vast, trackless deserts, and abominable, snowy peaks.
You know what if it wasn't winter here I'd go put my OCP there and it'd look reeeeeee diculous and not blend, you'd have a better chance of OCP matching someones couch. OCP isn't suppose to be nonspecific it's a knock off multi cam because camo gays want a forest looking color because they don't think camo works unless it works in a forest, because everyone goes to a forest for no fricking reason because it's the most valuable thing to ever fight over.
>camo gays want a forest looking color because they don't think camo works unless it works in a forest
I don't know if we're talking about the same OCP.
Frick ya mudda
>What the frick were they thinking?
it was supposed to be "the end of history"
we only say that in threads where anons post hands or guns
>BF4 gun skins
There is something about UCP that just commands power. Maybe it's because it represents the US at its peak of military influence. Maybe it's just a bunch of post-9/11 media that shows it in all its couch glory.
kek
>peak US military influence
That would be desert storm era camos.
>There is something about UCP that just commands power.
I've always thought it gave the same impression as stormtrooper armor from Star Wars. All the more so because
>it represents the US at its peak of military influence
It just *looks* like the uniform of a superpower that knows its power and doesn't give a frick.
>YOU THINK I GIVE A FRICK ABOUT YOU NOT SEEING ME? AIRSTRIKE, b***h >:P
It's God's camo. If you were to ever enter heaven you'd see.
If I was being tinfoil hat conspiratorial:
>The objective was not camo for field combat, rather camo for police-state military work. Urban camo, rather than woodland, jungle, or desert.
There was no question of American omnipresence on the battlefield at this point. Why would your rank and file infantry need to worry about camo? They wouldn't get bogged down in some Ukrainian fields or South-Pacific Islands. You'd absolutely sweep the competition a'la Iraq 91 and Iraq 03 with artillery and air power and armor mopping it up. Where do you put your infantrymen? In the cities. Doing para-police military work.
Now if you are real tin foil hat you could theorize this kind of camo would then work in an urban environment - in the US. Except not really, and not really in dusty khaki ass Afghanistan and Iraq either. The only place it would is unvarnished untouched cinderblocks and I'm not even sure fricking ghetto ass Haiti or anywhere but MOUT training facilities has unvarnished cinderblock. Like maybe this would work in the streets of DC, but why would you need camo in an urban environment?
So maybe rather than 'it's for URBAN military-policing' it was 'it's for urban military POLICING". Look at . The conspicuousness is a feature not a bug. Again it's the "We have so much air and artillery and armored power that we do not need infantry to hide in the bush, we need them on a street corner." Black is too on the nose, plain olive or khaki is almost too quaintly familiar. Digital pixels in a greyish tone fits the bill of 21st century american century stormtrooper.
Frankly that nobody ever copied it in the same tones speaks volume. M81? Overtook DPM and french lizard in ubiquity. Multicam? Christ Black person even the Russians got it. Everybody likes to ape the US (or has to because it's cheaper). But they didn't for UCP. And I also hate having to always google whether it was OCP or UCP.
good theory, although I think the truth is they basically just wanted olive drab with some sort of pattern and digital was the cool thing at the time.
Ran out of text but I always think "Universal camo well that's multicam (I don't even like it but thems the breaks)". But no.
Also cadpat and marine camo shows with the right colors it works. I appreciate the marines just sticking to their camo, and honestly being rather autistic about it given they won't share. Better than the army because god knows in a few years the army'll go "Reee we need new camo"
>Frankly that nobody ever copied it in the same tones speaks volume
Many countries did, only more for their assorted gendarmerie and security forces, which only further validates your theory. UCP actually makes a lot more sense when you realize it was more about intimidation and power projection than it was the safety of whoever was wearing it. It served the same purpose as stormtrooper armor.
Interesting theory.
only makes it more interesting.
To explain this for morons, the camouflage is designed to make the soldiers easily identifiable to other soldiers of that military. When you have superiority over every sphere of warfare in a theater then you don't need to blend in as much as avoid directing your own assets onto other assets.
I don't have anything to say about the brass's intentions during the trials, but I do as an observer. American servicemen in UCP and associated equipment commanded instant respect. They were immediately recognizable from across the street, and up close their clean-shaven faces, bloused boots, and strapped headgear invoked an aura of order and discipline. Their futuristic accessorized rifles, IBA, and myriad equipment made them seem invincible. Nothing truly compares to the aesthetic practicality of the late 2000s-early 2010s US infantryman.
t. Iraqi
inshallah brother. I quake at the memory of their Oakley's and the smell of their snus
Snus wasnt a popular dip alternative until 2009-10. Like how E Cigs were technically around for yeas but vaping didnt catch on until nearly a decade later
Pleasant to read
Weathered UCP is god tier.
Not just because it starts to actually work once it gets dirty and the lights darken and the darks fade, but it actually has to be EARNED through actual use. You can't just buy it. Top tier gate keeping.
you can just buy it used from a surplus store lol
You have,totally,missed the point of the other Anon’s post.
Award yourself a Battlefield Commendation.
Not.
The common mindset back then was that substantial progress was inevitable and imminent. Such optimism in those days.. instead we got whatever the frick (this) is
We have made progress. A drone corrected mortar is simpler and more effective than that 20lb hunk of shit.
A drone corrected mortar also takes 100x as long to get on target and can't be used to engage the same targets as an airburst grenade launcher i.e. inside a window.
ppl don't care about collateral damage nowadays, just destroy everything above and including the room you want cleared with the mortar.
be sure to knock on the roof before hand to get "civilians" out tho lmao
Drones are also lame as frick.
t.ww1 soldier in his trench watching the biplanes overhead
How well would this work at killing Chinese
The guys who used it in the 'Stan enjoyed it, but in the end the decision was made that it wasn't enough of an improvement over the M203/320 to warrant the sacrifice of the grenadier's rifle. Sustainability in particular was a huge thing: those big fricking mags only take 4 rounds, so an individual loadout was somewhere around 28 rounds at best, plus whatever else your squad could carry for you (in addition to the extra food for the 2 SAWs that they're already lugging).
Maybe all the computer interlinking between optics and headsets they're working on can get us man-portable airbursts out of an underbarrel, suppose we'll see.
It would be pretty cool if the could use the fuze tech for other man portable boom stuff. Maybe a Smaw round with a frag sleeve. Or for those belt fed grenade launchers.
>but in the end the decision was made that it wasn't enough of an improvement over the M203/320 to warrant the sacrifice of the grenadier's rifle
no it was because somehow some reason it was a warcrime, apparently the ammo counted as exploding bullets which violated the geneva convention. how and why is moronic because its a fricking grenade launcher.
Rifles are always viewed as intended to be used against humans.
for some reason overkilling single targets into paste is frowned upon in humanitarian circles. it doesn't matter that the primary target tanks/fortified positions - some dumb shmuck will shoot a round into a room to clear it quickly. it escalates from there
>warcrime
literally not what you think
for what you're thinking of, it had to be UNDER a certain amount of explosives, it was OVER, making it legal
the problem was a mixture of cost & production
shit either cost too much to make &/or to be produced en masse, and the production was complicated out of licensing issues because reasons
>for what you're thinking of, it had to be UNDER a certain amount of explosives, it was OVER, making it legal
true but the amount of explosive doesn't matter if it can't be clearly defined what the operator is gonna be shooting at.
you can't shoot a .50 cal at infantry if you have a choice either - warcrime.
>true but the amount of explosive doesn't matter if it can't be clearly defined what the operator is gonna be shooting at.
>you can't shoot a .50 cal at infantry if you have a choice either - warcrime.
both still not true
50s can be used
all that shits just fuddlore that even the military believes, and for no good reason
i imagine it started because NCOs thought they knew better (they never do), told everyone that, and nobody wanted to argue with the dumb homosexual, so it just kept getting said until believed
lore first noted in vietnam when command wanted the M2 to be reserved for targeting material and not people, didn't want them wasted on shredding 50 trees because one of them hit a asiatic. It's a warcrime = don't waste as much ammo
Well, cocaine is a hell of a drug.
rich people were doing oxycontin at that time
Money and moron Boomers are a bad mix
Killing every mother fricker behind cover with air burst grenades.
What are you guys talking about, all I see is a bush?
Get your eyes checked, this is clearly a photo of Grandma's couch inexplicably placed next to a tree
The US military decision makers just approve whatever contract pays them the most.
frick yes, Grunts get Fricked, Officers get FRICKING PAID
When worn/faded and covered in dust it worked actually really well in Afghanistan, but the Army should have just made more color variations and kept the pattern, now everyone uses multicam looking stuff and we need more than ever a more distinct uniform as being seen is less of a problem as being misidentified now.
Full circle backwards
I may kill myself if video games ever replace the M249 with this.
They wouldn't replace the SAW outright, they'd just make the 250 the "heavy" light machine gun with less movement speed, lower capacity, higher recoil, and more damage and less damage dropoff.
iirc that lmg is in the latest CoDs.
There was a point in time that digital cameras had not so many pixels so using something like this could make enemy detection using digital photography harder.
Also ACU was supposed to have some pretty decent IR dampening effect.
It should work well if someone is looking at you trough something like pic related
They call it universal because it universally blends in equally as well in all environments that aren't a pile of cinder blocks or grandmas couch
>thinking
>heh, nailed it
This looks suspiciously similar to Starship Troopers. They probably watched a lot of sci-fi for inspiration.
They were thinking about making kino.
00s and early 10s was so kino. I miss it bros
delta variant was cooler
its why i dyed mine red, brown and 2 greens
OP pic is clearly not to specification. these are the official UCP shades and I'm not seeing them there
Isn't Ukrainian camo what UCP should have been?
It is. Their camo is better than our camo.
Yup, the colors for MM14 works well.
no, SURPAT is
Why don't we send it to Ukraine?
it's a Russian pattern. it's literally just recolored UCP but with actual universal shades
>Both Ukraine and Russia are using variants of the UCP
No wonder they wear armbands.
>surpat
Its literally just a lighter version of marpat
Cadpat
Mm14 is what UCP would look like if it had its colors from
Would UCP have been a good camo if it had some black dots to break up the outline? It at least would have been less shitty, right?
SURPAT? More like SURPLUS lmao hahahaha no but for real when is Russia going to start issuing* these?
*selling warehouses-worth of these in mint condition on Ebay or something for reasonable prices
It'd have been a less shitty pattern if it weren't just three shades of medium–light gray, like originally intended
Having drop shadows under some of the blobs like
would also help create the illusion of depth.
>Would UCP have been a good camo if it had some black dots to break up the outline? It at least would have been less shitty, right?
Nope. It'd still be too bright. The colors chosen were just awful.
The two problems were
1. Having fricking silver in the pallette
2. squares and blotches were too small to work well.
Ironically the Air Force got both of these points correct.
the UDP in that pic is already faded, so it looks the same, but brand new UDP glows like in
because it has straight up silver as a significant color.
The other problem with UDP is that the small blotches, just all looked like a solid color at distance, you can actually kind of see it in that pic if you look at the person on the left who's more out of focus, although generally it's an effect that happens further away.
actually the person in the back right is a better example of it. You can still see blotches on his sleeve whereas his helmet looks closer to being a solid color.
It's weird how much something can look cool or ugly based on how the uniform fits
This looks ugly as hell, those dudes look fat and chunky
This looks pretty neat
or the other option is just use the original urban track that UDP was based on
there is no silver in UCP
it fades to light grey, but it is literally silver when it's brand new. I never realized it myself until one day I was in clothing and sales and there was a silver camelback. I was wondering what the hell it was suppose to go with and that's when I saw that brand new UDP is basically silver.
there's more to nature than woodland you know and the world isn't a lit computer monitor so digital pictures are inherently a horrible way of accessing camo.
>there's more to nature than woodland you know
yeah
It's just tiger stripe UCP. It still sticks out like a greyish-white sore thumb against any remotely nature-colored background.
so it's a procurement failure mainly?
Yeah, inasmuch as they procured UCP instead of Multicam or the Rhodesian Brushstroke knockoff that both bodied it in trials
The guy in the picture? Definitely, "hell yeah."
"Frick that guy over there and everyone around him, whether they're wearing armor or not, regardless of whether they're behind cover or in a trench or whatever"
It's what the NGSW should've been.
They need to spend their 9 garillion budget in something have some imagination
NGL the quantity and consistency of those fragments is making me a bit erect.
why'd you post a picture of a tree
It's such a weird feeling to live through multiple eras of military camo;
Woodland/Chocolate chip/DCU/UCP/Marpat/NWU type 1,2,3/digi-tiger/OCP
The real Optimal Camouflage Pattern is issuing new patterns at such an unsustainable tempo that your guys all have five different patterns of gear at all times, creating a macro-macropattern that no one pattern ever could
Perfection. Imagine looking at any of these guys long enough to get a sight picture—impossible.
I did one enlistment and was in for 3 different camo patterns, if you differentiate between multi-cam and skorpian at least.
The camo is suppose to get dirty and blend into it's environment, that looks like a shiney uniform because UCP has a problem that when you keep it clean and throw it into a washer it bleaches into a very bright color. If you were looking at urban pallets for colors it'd fit about as well as putting a pine tree forest color outside a pine tree forest. It works well with sand and rocks, and crab grass or scrubbish looking green things. It's like taking a photo of a guy in OCP in a what field and asking why it doesn't blend but it's okay because it's a typical forest color and it's not a good camo unless it blends in a forest because the military always goes into a forest to fight people in the middle of a forest in no where because that makes so much sense.
Unless you mean the grenade launcher it was a cool concept because why wouldn't you want a grenade launcher then they just decided it needed a gun on it. So then it turned into a gun with a super expensive grenade launcher with no compatibility with anything else so they just got a grenade launcher to attach to their gun that could also be used as a single shot without the gun. I just feel personally attacked people go after UCP so much I've never met a single person that likes it and it does make sense in the context it's suppose to fit in. You know what good camoflage does? You get to joke with someone they didn't notice you because you forgot you had it on.
Every uniform blends in with its environment when it's covered in a deployment's worth of...the environment, and OCP (i.e., royalty-free Multicam) would probably do just fine in a wheat field, since it's specifically designed to be nonspecific and perform adequately everywhere except impenetrable, verdant jungles, vast, trackless deserts, and abominable, snowy peaks.
You know what if it wasn't winter here I'd go put my OCP there and it'd look reeeeeee diculous and not blend, you'd have a better chance of OCP matching someones couch. OCP isn't suppose to be nonspecific it's a knock off multi cam because camo gays want a forest looking color because they don't think camo works unless it works in a forest, because everyone goes to a forest for no fricking reason because it's the most valuable thing to ever fight over.
>camo gays want a forest looking color because they don't think camo works unless it works in a forest
I don't know if we're talking about the same OCP.
That's obviously dirty and worn out.
That's obviously a grassy field that has a few stray trees in it.