What the frick does this even mean? Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
What the fuck does this even mean?
What the frick does this even mean? Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
The don't get rotated. There are multiple accounts of people sitting in trenches for months without rotation. Although the article is probably a dumb click bait
I imagine getting shelled and droned for weeks would have this type of effect
Good.
It's time for western boomers to give more weapons.
You could just go to the ISW page instead of posting some news headline
>Russian forces have failed to make meaningful advances in Luhansk Oblast in 2023, despite the heavy commitment of elements of at least three armies of two military districts, elements of two VDV divisions, and the support of numerous irregular formations. The forces that have been fighting along this line for at the better part of four months are likely exhausted and substantially degraded. They have continued to attack, have not rotated to rest and refit, and do not appear to have prepared themselves to receive a Ukrainian offensive.
>The pattern of Russian deployments throughout Ukraine strongly suggests that most of the available maneuver elements of all military districts, as well as major surviving Airborne forces, are already committed to either active offensive or defensive operations in Ukraine. Russia will need to commit significant reserves to any discrete axis in order to conduct effective offensive operations, and the generally exhausted condition of troops and the apparently disorganized and fragmented deployment pattern in some areas will likely pose significant obstacles to Russia’s prospects for defending critical sectors of the frontline.
>They have continued to attack, have not rotated to rest and refit, and do not appear to have prepared themselves to receive a Ukrainian offensive.
And yet NATO doesn't capitalize on this? Bullshit, the israelites are lying again
Maybe Ukraine hasn't drafted enough 60 year old men for their magical offensive yet
Even if you didn't just out yourself as a shill with the old NATO chestnut, you're ignoring the very big issue of weather and muddy conditions that have stalled both sides. There's no point rushing Leopard tanks and Bradleys into a morass where they'll get picked off by artillery and anti-tank forces.
War is truly a test of indominable wills.
Russia and their total inability to follow through with the consequences of their red lines, always pushing their own goal posts back.
Ukraine and their total inability to realistically assess their own capabilities, always calling for a cure-all offensive that never comes. How many "army groups" of 3000 men each are they creating now? And how many of those men are above 40?
Which side will cave first? Will Russia admit they're a bunch of pussies? Or will Ukraine just run out of humans to put uniforms on?
>always calling for a cure-all offensive that never comes
Can you tell me how "forever Russian" Kherson is doing these days? Acting like neither side has done anything all war is pretty silly, Ivan.
dont know anything about Ukraine running out of humans to put uniforms on but Puccia is certainly running low on tanks and IFVs after suiciding them into defensive positions like picrel lmao
>always calling for a cure-all offensive that never comes
You're acting like an offensive is a mythical idea and not something they successfully pulled off not even a full year ago. They've been very publicly massing up western armor and it's pretty safe to assume shit's going to pop off towards the summer months.
>Ukraine and their total inability to realistically assess their own capabilities, always calling for a cure-all offensive that never comes. How many "army groups" of 3000 men each are they creating now? And how many of those men are above 40?
You tell us anon, you sure sound like you have the numbers. Do tell.
Over 9000 groups of fully trained, able bodied soldiers with a median soldier age of 25 armed with armor melting laser carbines to be declassified as part of the offensive
What if you're constantly cold? What if your supply lines are fricked? What if your comms are fricked? What if you can't protect yourself from the damp? What if drones are always threatening you, and it doesn't matter if you are at the front line for behind moscow there's drones?
You are there, always paranoid about those flying hohol machines ready to ruin your day anon. It's stressful
Are they not allowed to shoot drones to save bullets?
Drones are hard to shoot and you need to adjust your sights when firing at a high angle.
They do shoot them, it's just that they have to spot them first. Most drone losses are from EW or some lucky noooticer finding them flying overhead and getting his buddies to fire wildly at them with AKs.
Yeah. They shoot them down and it isn't terribly hard to do. But we rarely see footage because if you're a drone operator, you aren't going to upload your failures.
A squad firing at a drone will probably be pretty standard training. 40mm cannister rounds could also make a comeback. But keep in mind, what goes up must come down.
>You are there, always paranoid about those flying hohol machines ready to ruin your day anon. It's stressful
It occurs to me a lot of them may flat out be deafened. You almost never see earpro on any of those conscriptovich frickers, even the artillery ones just like, put their hands over their ears sometimes. Permanent hearing loss everywhere. They probably literally can't hear the drones overhead. Orders have to be screamed at them to be above a whisper.
There's all this non-visible stuff that never ever gets any attention. It's not like any of these gays are robots, they're still humans, 140+dB is gonna frick their ears same as anyone else.
the drones are 100m+ in the air, i'm not sure if you could hear them well, given the ambience of war
>the drones are 100m+ in the air
You can hear typical drones from like, 5x that easy. I've heard them on a ferry over windy ocean. They're not quiet, and they're super, super distinct sound.
I mean, it's not like it's a jet engine, but last time one was around everyone was looking for it even without knowing what it was well before it came over the tree line, the noise was there.
>i'm not sure if you could hear them well, given the ambience of war
A lot of war is dead silent. Maybe shots off in the distance, but of the endless drone videos we've seen now plenty are clearly not in the hot area of action, hence all the sleeping and so on. They aren't actively being shelled or having HMG sprayed at them right at that moment.
Never forget Russian ear pros were issued last year during the first call up.
works just as well as what america used to give their troops whats the problem?
Far more common Foamies work fine. You're thinking of another style used from 2003-2015. Most of the military has always used glorious yellow foamies (also nice for grinding, overhead welding to protect ear canal from spatter and more). I buy them by the bag for personal use.
All fancy shit is shit. Foamies are god manifested in tubular yellow goodness. The defective trash would have been instantly noticed by any foamy aficionado as would the stupid short length (see illustration):
https://www.chaffinluhana.com/3m-caev2-military-earplugs-what-you-need-to-know/
Of course being in the service which actually checks this shit (USAF) I was never issued that garbage. I have no idea why anyone joins the Army and Army vets are why I joined the Air Force.
Either works better than a folded rag though so frick off re: that.
this has to be a joke, /k/ pre-2022 couldn't have come up with earpro that shit even as a joke
now THESE are man made horrors beyond my comprehension
>hold my beer
>t. Thermal equipped automated defense turrets
Seriously, YouTubers make image/facial recognition turrets for nerf guns. It's not much harder to slap together a thermal equipped MG platform and tell it to 'shoot at moving blobs of heat in a 120 degree angle toward the enemy'.
Brutal.
>The cheapness and ease of use of these things is a massive force multiplier
>May not kill as much as real arty by getting wounded and killed without warning is so bad for moral
Yeah now do this with such little sleep you start hallucinating, which is around the 50hr mark, i've been there and it's fricking horrible
Bullshit. I've done allnighters (30h or so) regularly during univeristy studies. Longest I've been through was something over 50h and I was far from hallucinating.
Visual distortions at 24h is complete nonsesne.
The "bursts of euphoria and depression" part is true tough.
>Visual distortions at 24h is complete nonsesne.
actual bullshit. are you seriously trying to say you've never seen shit pop in or out of the corner of your vision, patterns like on bathroom tiles becoming weird, etc?
read the fricking chart. the shit you're talking about is pinpointed at 53-192 hours.
>patterns like on bathroom tiles becoming weird, etc
I certainly don't remeber it so if I did see it it wasn't disturbing.
>>Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
>But in modern warfare you can not generally defend against a mechanized enemy simply by trying to hold trenches, because a proper enemy concentration can and will simply grind its way through them and break into your rear, where there's too much open space for trenches and then they're free to wreak havoc wherever they want. Only built up areas really allow you to "sit" and hold against an enemy.
>In the field, you need mobile troops to avoid their spearhead and its destructive artillery fires and air bombardments. You need mobile reserves on every level to actively defend against enemy advances, attrit them along their entire line of advance, and strike decisive counterattacks at their weak points, in their rear, in their flank, against their supply routes. All of this also generally requires you to cede a bunch of land in exchange to fight the enemy in-depth. Russia has very severely weakened their abilities to perform all of this with their failed offensives around Bakhmut and Vuhledar.
At 24 hours I had sudden burst of involuntary movement and flinching when trying to sleep. Also my eyes felt weird, like they didn't appropriately "turn off" when trying to sleep
Walking down the streeet was a goddamned trip. Your peripherical vision's shot. You just can't remember what you see that's you are not looking right at.
>Bullshit.
So you're saying both my first-hand experience and the national library of medication is wrong, what are your credentials?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6048360/
>what are your credentials?
My own experience. I mean I'm just saying that those effect seem far fetched from what was happening to me. And I'm not alone apparently
No.
Again, I'm was not replying to OP but to that sleep deprivation chart.
Have you also done all-nighters with bullets and artillery flying over your head, hotshot?
Have you done an all nighter with a 10” BBC? You don’t know shit big talker.
immediate seethe
No, but your mom and dad have.
No. And I was not disputing that there's hard life in the trench. I was disputing that chart anon posted.
Visual distortions doesn't mean hallucinations. It means things not being in quite the correct shape. Straight lines on tiled walls will start to seem wavy.
This starts to happen after 24 hours and particularly after 36.
Are you seriously comparing a college all nighter to being kept awake for 2-3 days while being shelled and shot at?
I concur as I neither had auditory nor visual stuff occur after 72h upon multiple occasions. (One said occasion food wasn't available so not sure if thatd matter)
So all you need to do is survive past 190h mark?
yes, then you never have to sleep again
most people don't know about that life hack
I guy once stayed up for a an entire week as part of a radio show stunt and by the end of it he was completely irreversibly insane. I think he either died shortly after from mental-stress related health problems or he killed himself, I forget which. But he was like a totally ordinary radio guy and then a week of no sleep later and his brain is literally actually destroyed.
Yeah that's Peter Tripp. He stayed up a week, started to hallucinate and at the end of his stunt, he thought that he's a complex imposter of Peter Tripp, not Peter Tripp himself. He didn't kys himself though and recovered from his delusions.
Did past 90 hours once, for no good reason at all and will never ever do that again in my life if I can help it. Visual stuff didn't start for a while, but past 48 I was tripping balls, no drugs involved.
I was like 16 at the time, at a weekend LARP event(costumes and foam swords kind) and decided I was just not gonna sleep the whole time. I was fricked up for like a solid couple weeks after.
Damn, that sounds awesome. Got to try that sometime.
Most I've been up was around 2 days and I only got this sort of darkness on the peripheral vision.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Gardner_sleep_deprivation_experiment
I've pulled all nighters too and I started getting visual halluciations around the evening of the second day, so probably around 34 hours in. Although it was mostly tame shit, like looking at a tree in the distance and seeing it move etc
Yeah your brain starts to play tricks on you, it's like your eyes can see X but the brain has a hard time deciphering what it is and just makes stuff up, it's bizzarre, sleep deprivation is no joke
38 hours during aerospace engineering finals at university, even the softest sounds like a muffled door closing down the hall started sounding REALLY close and distorting into someone whispering my name in my ear. No visual hallucinations but after I started getting my name whispered I pussied out
>38 hours during aerospace engineering finals at university, even the softest sounds like a muffled door closing down the hall started sounding REALLY close
I've noticed you also get surprised/shocked/frightened much much easier too. Like a sudden noise will physically jolt you compared to normal
when I had meth induced psychosis and wasn't sleeping at all I was straight up schizo. It is the craziest shit ever. I could not discern reality from hallucination whatsoever. I thought the cartel put a microchip in my brain and was brodcasting voices into my head to drive me insane.
>spend weeks or months living in a muddy trench
>last time you had a non-MRE meal was...you can't remember
>every day or so some fellow mobnik gets blown apart by a drone grenade
>average period of uninterrupted sleep in an hour
>try and check internet to distract self from your life
>see this
>"why can't these soldiers perform an effective offensive?"
>Urawr
My sides
I hope that poster got throughly yiffed on their way to urawring
>it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and...ACK!!!
You know what, after seeing the 1000th drone drop video i wonder why dont they put chicken wire above their trenches
I guess it wont help anyway, since it's too flismy and what makes drones dangerous are the shrapnel
Chicken wire doesn't stop shrapnel
>put chickenwire above your trench
>eliminate the slight chance of getting our battlebuddy's body to protect you from shrapnels coming from the side, as now grenades explode a meter above all of you, spraying your heads with shrapnels
You know what? I think they should totally start putting chicken wire above their trenches, anon
Overhead cover + chicken wire. Put chicken wire on top of the entrance to your fighting position, so grenades can't explode right outside the entrance even if they're timed to do so.
>build tactical chicken coop
>check-mate atheists, berlin by christmas
Would be very generous of the vatnigs to turn ukie nades into airburst munitions for them
>turn a simple nade into an airburst machine of death
Sasuga.
I think the idea would be to pitch it in the middle, so the grenades bounce away from the foxhole.
But I suspect any sort of covering would prevent the vatniks from exiting the hole during other, maybe more common attacks, or reduce their view too much
sloping tin roofs would be better
wouldn't it be better to cover the trenches in sheet metal instead?
Sheet metal sells for several hundred rubles, anon
they could take apart washing machines for the parts they need
>turn a dumb grenade into airburst
genius
They should give mobiks tennis rackets and baseball bats so they can hit the grenades away from themselves mid-air.
funny you should say that, there was a joke video done by some ukies about "anti-himars weapons" they found in a Puccian arms cache which were just table tennis rackets and balls lmao
>be Russian CHAD
>grenade lands next to you
>don't give a frick
>it blows up
>don't give a frick
>go frick some hohol prostitutes later
portraying putin as an alpha chad will never not be not funny.
Can you talk normal b***hbreasts?
is that how putin sees himself?
Unironically yes
>be Russian CHAD
>grenade lands next to you
>don't give a frick
>it blows up
>die
Still better than going back to Russia.
If only he had time to light a cig, smoke it, do a middle finger salute to his comrades, then get blown up.
Guy doesn't even flinch, keeps smoking
He was done couple of weeks ago
Hes asleep, that's his breath making those clouds.
I think that's just his breath, but he and his buddy were either snoozing when it dropped or already injured and too stunned/exhausted to even move.
When this first came out it was speculated that they were experiencing hypothermia
This level of fatalism ... I cannot comprehend it. Even a termite would struggle. It's like they're actually relieved to die.
Hypothermia is stronger than you imagine.
My only guess is these dudes were half asleep or something
Im starting to consider WWI sniper ungentlemanly conduct gripes. War is fricking shit, and this just might be my personal bad taste in mouth, but still, eh.
>noo you can't just use any means necessary to get genocidal invaders out of your country
ESL detected, the taste in your mouth is gopnik smegma. It's your fault /k/ hates you, vatBlack person.
It means Jon Jackson sucks at writing propaganda.
>Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
Midwit take, if not outright stupid. Defending doesn't always mean you're sitting in the same trench the whole time. Sometimes the attackers come from a different angle or use a different tactic and so you have to shift everything to effectively defend.
>it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
Yeah.
It would stop vog grenades from fusing and prevent normal ones from rolling into foxholes
You see, when left untreated, HIV can cause you to go into full blown AIDS. Coincidentally enough, fatigue is a common symptom.
If Russia hasn't been rotating their forces and the soldiers are mentally/emotionally spent, they may just flee once shit starts going bad.
>they may just flee once shit starts going bad.
I can't wait to see what "starts going bad" means for Russia at this point if we haven't seen it yet.
You should watch the WW1 documentary “They Shall Not Grow Old” and educate yourself about what life in trenches is like. Even guys who said they enjoyed the war said they were tired of it by the end and just wanted it to be over, some even said they didn’t are who won anymore just as long as it ended.
>didn’t *care*
Attacks can happen once every 24 hours, give or take 24. If you want to shoot at approaching targets you need to be paying attention.
[X] to doubt. I hate journalists so fricking much.
Anon I quite literally get angry when I have to hear adverts and news coverage when around other people's houses. Not that I'm delusional or anything it's just the only things they seem to give a frick about is antisemitism and racism.
I think I hate ~~*them*~~ enough already.
>I quite literally get angry when I have to hear adverts and news coverage
What is is like to be so weak minded that mere words can hurt you?
>Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
But in modern warfare you can not generally defend against a mechanized enemy simply by trying to hold trenches, because a proper enemy concentration can and will simply grind its way through them and break into your rear, where there's too much open space for trenches and then they're free to wreak havoc wherever they want. Only built up areas really allow you to "sit" and hold against an enemy.
In the field, you need mobile troops to avoid their spearhead and its destructive artillery fires and air bombardments. You need mobile reserves on every level to actively defend against enemy advances, attrit them along their entire line of advance, and strike decisive counterattacks at their weak points, in their rear, in their flank, against their supply routes. All of this also generally requires you to cede a bunch of land in exchange to fight the enemy in-depth. Russia has very severely weakened their abilities to perform all of this with their failed offensives around Bakhmut and Vuhledar.
>Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
That video of that Ukie squad holding off the Russians assaulting their position didn't look calm or low energy. Not to mention, when a fricking entire armor/mechanized infantry company hits your position, it's probably not going to be enough to just launch a couple of ATMs and call it good.
Beep beep, motherfricker. Manuever warfare means it's time to manuever.
Of course.
But the actual problem is that this isn't some boots on the ground warzone investigative journalist interviewing combatants about their condition.
This is some troony sitting in a starbucks gargling a semen latte slapping away at his macbook "I BET RUSSIANS ARE... LE TIRED!"
It would be just as gay and moronic if he were doing the same shtick about Ukraine.
The amount of projection in this post is wild.
You don't even know what that word means, you soi chugging troony.
>Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
OK, now do it only eating once a day, while cold/wet, bored, constantly shelled, after seeing a friend turned to hamburger by a drone, no pay, you've been raped, etc.
>Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
it takes a lot of effort you moron
ISW said no such thing. fricking clicbait journo bullshit
>it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
can't sleep
constantly paranoid about artillery and drones
Snipers
Trench invasions
Rockets, I'm surprised we haven't seen shell shock
You know what this mean right?
We're gonna TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO post!
>ISW says
Oy vey
We talked about this before.
Do you know why the 155th got to eat shit and die several times over in Vuhledar? You remember. To the point where they were just shoving in people fresh from ""training"" into it? It isn't because there were no other troop concentrations in the area to pull from. There were plenty. And they were actually (allegedly) trained and experienced. So why were they not utilized in such a high-value operation?
Because they began threatening violence against their officers should they be forced forward. We know that to be the case from intercepts in the area that were collected during the Vuhledar Catastrophe earlier in the year.
Now, in the past these sorts of disagreements were delicately manged by the RU MoD by splitting off and isolating "energetic elements" from the wider troop population in-theater and shoving them in a cage or a pit or something. Well, some vatniks are smarter than others and didn't allow that to happen.
Essentially, Russia is only able to conduct offensive operations with soldiers who can be coerced and cowed into doing so. This in turn means the defensive lines with all those magnificent dragons teeth are being largely held by soldiers who cannot be trusted to reliably carry out orders to leave their FOB and strike Ukrainians.
Does that sound like a recipe for a coherent defense? We haven't even talked about logistical issues and the fact that every aspect of the Russian military from equipment to training to officer corps to fuel supplies etc have worsened considerably over time.
I think you'd be "exhausted" too.
>Does that sound like a recipe for a coherent defense?
It worked just fine for France in 1917-18.
>It worked just fine for France in 1917-18.
The French were defending their own territory, weren't the side being blockaded/sanctioned, and there was a horde of Americans coming to bail them out against the Germans.
>I think you'd be "exhausted" too.
even the vodka teeth are exhausted
wtf did they make them out of to be deteriorating like that in such a short period of time?
Corruption and embezzlement, that's what they're made of.
Hohol hopes and dreams.
Ukrainian facts and reality.
That sounds like it would improve RU defense actually, while being detrimental to their attacks
It shouldn't be surprising that nobody on either side actually wants to be there.
"Some" and "nobody" mean different things.
non clickbait link
https://kyivindependent.com/isw-exhausted-troops-disorganized-deployment-will-likely-hinder-russias-prospects-of-holding-critical-frontline-areas-in-ukraine/
>it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
ever been in a serious fight? remember how throwing a basic punch suddenly made you feel like your arms are made of lead? or how wrestling a guy intent on really harming you for 30 seconds was way more draining than digging a hole for an hour? everything becomes much more difficult when you're in a violent struggle with other people. especially when there's thousands of opponents with a hundred different ways to kill you (and most of which you can't even notice before it's too late, let alone defend against.) having stress hormones pump through your veins for months on end will drain you psychologically and it will also start to affect your physically; on top of the cold, hunger, sleep deprivation, filth and - paradoxically enough - boredom. so yeah: "just sitting in a trench and shooting at attackers" is one of the most draining thing you can put a human through.
based armchair general
homie just sit in a trench, but remember a drone can drop a grenade on your head at any moment
Meanwhile homosexual OP probably has a mental breakdown if asked to work the weekend
>Kyiv Independent
>Source: ISW
Its all so tiring
you know what to do, it makes all the tiredness disappear
why do normies with dog avatars make you mad?
Because they are vatniks with a different color. They act the same, they look the same, they speak the same but just have a different color.
The normies wish death upon ziggers? Sounds based.
>false equivalence
Russia can leave Ukraine at any time
Color is important
What's incorrect about ISW's assessment?
>What's incorrect about ISW's assessment?
Nothing.
>What's incorrect about ISW's assessment?
Doesn't follow the russian propaganda narrative.
You're not supposed to ask these people what's wrong because all you get is a path down the propaganda narrative. Save time and energy and don't create a situation where other people have to watch a conversation where you ask X and the vatnik gets to spread its propaganda in front of the audience. Call them a homosexual instead, for example.
Yeah after talking for five minutes with a tankie commie who seemed good faith and on-schizo enough he was telling me about Ukrop nazi snipers selling child headshot safaris in the Donbas and nAtO cOmMaNdOs leading the charge on Kherson at the time
no way to engage with that except: no
>on-schizo
non-schizo
>It’s all so tiring
Then kys israelite nobody ever invited you and literally nobody will care when you’re dead
I hate that ISW has basically become rumors from Twitter with the occasional British intelligence briefing summary. At the start of the war, when big things were happening, they actually provided quality analysis. Now they just seem bored and tired.
Like, this is an example of one of their most recent articles: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-24-2023
>Russian milbloggers speculated that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered additional military command changes on April 20. A prominent Russian milblogger claimed that Putin signed a decree on April 20 about a series of military command changes and formally dismissed Commander of the Eastern Military District Colonel General Rustam Muradov.
It's speculation based on second hand accounts based on who knows
Situation now: Barrier troops exist so mobiks don't flee/reatreat
Situation then: Barrier troops flee on sign of Panzers.
>What the frick does this even mean? Like it doesn't take much effort to sit in your trench and shoot at approaching attackers
They have no food ammunition or fuel for vehicles and heaters/cookers/drying. This is caused by a catastrophic collapse in Russian logistics on the last leg to the front which is caused by chronic vehicle shortages and deliberate targeting of such Russian logistical vehicles and units by Ukrainian partisans. There are also actual resource shortages, ranging from weapons to ammunition. By the way, /k/ predicted this as reaching crisis point all along the Russian front in the first week of may which I personally am impressed by. Does anyone have that chart that was [posted of Russia losses in logistic vehicles and tankers with the predictive trend line?
3rd picture looks like a Lada Niva.
>. By the way, /k/ predicted this as reaching crisis point all along the Russian front in the first week of may which I personally am impressed by.
Found it
They are actually suffering very high losses of this type right now. 23 yesterday, 31 today. However that chart only shows the effect *beginning* in the first weeks of may. It might take until the end of may before you actually see units routing without combat due to hunger
Depends on how much individual formations/areas maintain stocks tbh. If I were to guess, not much. Not a dary or two, but less than a month.
That fit is a joke.
Looks good to me, r squared says so.
t. Biochemist
if this is even faintly accurate, this is the best case for why the spring offensive has been delayed I've seen yet
PrepHole tier meme line
Toilets are very heavy now imagine carrying one all the way back to Russia
https://twitter.com/spacecowboy3331/status/1648177779236560901
ISW themselves have started to get pissed off at the use of their information.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/isw-policy-regarding-coverage-announced-upcoming-ukrainian-counter-offensive-operations
>ISW themselves have started to get pissed off at the use of their information.
Maybe /k. should be pissed off at ISW for copying /k/s homework?
it's the kind of tired that sleep won't fix...
I know I'm not the first to think this, I'm just repeating others because I believe it too, but I think if this war gets any worse then Putin will actually back off so he can look like the "bigger man" in seeking peace. But the actual reason he'll be doing it is so that he can create his own stab-in-the-back myth for Russia, and the people he's gonna zero in on to blame is Wagner since there's already a lot of animosity between them and the regular army. So if the war ends with a Russian pullout, and then within the next year we get footage on Russian tv with the Wagner HQ being raided by the government for mass arrests and special attention from the cameras being focused on all the opulence that is being confiscated from the building, then you'll know the scenario I put forth is what's happening.
>I know I'm not the first to think this, I'm just repeating others because I believe it too, but I think if this war gets any worse then Putin will actually back off so he can look like the "bigger man" in seeking peace
On April 18th, U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman warned America's NATO allies that they needed to keep a watchful eye on Russia for signs of nuclear weapons use. A warning from Deputy Secretary Sherman
"We have all watched and worried that Vladimir Putin would use what he considers a non-strategic tactical nuclear weapon or use some demonstration effect to escalate, but in a managed risk escalation,” Deputy Secretary Sherman said. Nuclear weapons in Belarus
"It is very critical to remain watchful of this,” Sherman added
I don't think he's gonna do it because we made it clear in our meetings with Putin that we know where Putin is at all times so if he uses a nuke then we won't nuke Moscow, we will nuke him specifically at his exact location.
Oh I'm not bothered about seeing Russia and Putin vanish in a self inflicted nuclear detonation either way. I would not give a frick for utterances from the kremlin either put I will pay attention to the secretary of state. The escalate to deescalate patrushev doctrine was always pants on head moronic and going to get Moscow irradiated. It one of the many many problems Russia has, a complete decline in the quality, ability and intelligence of leadership and policy formation. Russia has already lost this war, if it wants to get irradiated as well that's fine too. Its been quite clear from the moement the Russians stole experimental and very particular isotopes from the Chernobyl labs and then started fricking with the staff at Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Station that they were up to their single digit IQ point frickwittery. Modern Russian leadership is as if someone interviewed for supervillians in a special needs bus
Stop making shit up Peter
Petah Zion
Here's a better deal. Putin dies and the Russian military withdraw and everyone is polite again.
I just don't see him dying, I see it ending in him using it as an excuse to purge anyone still around that can act as a rival to him. It's such an easy "YOU cost us the war!" justification and Putin is popular enough in Russia to get away with it.
You ever try to do double night shifts with zero sleep
>Too exhausted
They're sitting in cumpits, starving and beaten to shit or infected with HIV
>HIV from flu inoculation
... are they reusing needles? I mean of course they are, I don't even know why I'm surprised, but fricking hell.
Of course they are.
How the frick did we ever think Russia was anything but a third world country?
> Anon who didn't see the vatnig field hospital photos
In soviet russia, it is Our needle
Anon please it's not just any needle. It's The People's Needle!
Just drop the needles in alcohol moron, cleans them easy peasy.
The elites don't want you to know this but the needles at the park are free, you can take them home
I have 458 needles.
70% ethanol is good but it isn't foolproof. 10% bleach wash is the only thing I'd consider acceptable outside of an autoclave
Ethylene oxide is a safe and common household chemical, and a wonderful disinfectant.
>Ethylene oxide is safe
Reminder to morons. Fun though this tardb8 is. Do not do this. alcohol/Ethanol and even boiling does not kill evrything(and most modern stuff is not even able to be boiled for half an hour anyway). Sterilisation is not easy. Do not give yourself sepsis.
Bless you anon
I’d post the image of Pepe caressing you with a palm leaf but I’m a phoneposting homosexual rn
What survives a 10% bleach wash for an hour? I was under the impression it was pretty broad spectrum
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK214356/
Also, note to the unaware, do not mix alcohol and bleach, if you're doing sterilization. Bad Stuff happens
Lol no.
Bleach, ethanol, isopropanol and even epoxide are all fine for CLEAN SURFACES.
They don't penetrate biofilm. You can't clean the lumen of the needle, even prior to autoclaving surgical tools, they need to be cleaned with brushes in solution first. If there are any areas you can't clean or pockmarks in the instrument, they need to be thrown away.
Like anything else, you need friction and to remove layers to allow any chemical action to happen.
Like you can't just clean your rifle by dipping it in oil ffs.
One word ultrasonic. Ethanol in an ultrasonic bath works great.
If you're using bleach don't forget to add vinegar. Bleach alone won't effectively clean anything
Just use a flame and make it red hot 🙂
I'm pretty sure asepsis is guaranteed and even sterility would be achievable through a detergent/bleach wash to remove gross biological matter followed by boiling in water then being baked in a commercial oven at 70+ celcius for a few hours.
Nice - feel like I should post this for the unaware anons
homosexual
its cheap and you can pocket the cash sent for new needles. I bet they cope by pouring disinfectant over the needles saying its now sterile and safe
Maybe but they vatnik almost certainly got his AIDS from buttrape
Reusable needles are a thing, though generally they're ran through an autoclave after each use so as to avoid giving your patient's super aids. A notable controversy in USSR medical facilities was the lack of sterilization of reusable needles, leading to many outbreaks.
Westoids just want to bring Russia to it's knees. But we will stop them.
if I got HIV like this I'd frag whichever officer was in charge of inoculation. frick me this is disgusting
Source: my quivering butthole
>Source: my quivering butthole
It is an acknowledged expert on the infection and symptoms of HIV so i gues I can accept it as a primary source.
>he took the (flu)vax
Doesn't it take a while to know if you have HIV or not? As much as I hate russians, I'm calling B.S.
>Doesn't it take a while to know if you have HIV or not?
By symptoms alone? Yeah it'll take years
But Russia has lots of HIV tests from humanitarian charities, and they're simple finger prick tests
Why would a subliterate subhuman test for HIV? Russians are not people.
prick tests can detect them anywhere from within 24 hours in the blood to 1 week since exposure.
They're Russian, why would they test or care? These are not people in the Western sense and only capable of rudimentary behaviors.
even if its fake I still kek’d out loud out the absolute medieval tier nature of russia.
>get given HIV booster shot
>shit
>just throw him in an ‘open air pit’
orc really is the best word for them,even nigs wouldnt do this.
Imagine living at your job site for months with no end in sight
You're far better off reading RUSI reports rather than whatever crap ISW publishes
>ISW
honestly, not even going to respond. do better.
victory by forfeit
you never had the qualifications to offer a challenge
Yes, you win. Now go play with your friends honey
Drinking is taxing activity.
>bro just live in a badly dug trench without proper shelter or gear, infrequent resupply, in constant fear of a shell or drone killing you bro lmao
>what do you mean you haven’t been sleeping well?
If sitting in your trench and shooting is your idea of defending in 2023 it's all over for you.
>whatever the West says negatively about Russia is projection and actually refers to themselves
I hate these lying fricks so fricking much it's unreal
They just had to sit the frick down and get billions of dollars richer every year by selling us gas
What the frick is wrong with them
Are we still pretending they attacked for no reason? Not even Ukrainians believe that
I'm not pretending anything
I hate them like you wouldn't believe
We know the true reasons. They told them openly when they though they were going to win, before being btfo from Kyiv.
And they still do shit like this:
>MUH EMPIRE
Also a heavy dose of westerners being absolute child like fricking idiots when dealing with unhinged asiatics like vatniks and wumao trash. Taking anything coming out of their mouth for face value for example
A harsh truth of human nature is that the kind of person who makes (or steals) a fortune is almost always the kind of person who's pathologically insatiable. And the desire for money isn't just for its own sake, but directly linked to the lust for power. For Putin and the Russian elite, seizing Ukraine's resources was not only a step to net them billions of dollars, but to gain the authority to rival the US and command lesser countries to GIVE them billions more. And they would've taken another, and still another, if not for their feet getting blown off.
Don't interrupt the enemy when he's making mistakes
the CCP and esp Xi has bullshitted their own population so much they may be forced to war, and then we'll show them who's boss
Best as I can tell Russians have had a seething inferiority complex for centuries at the very least. That kind of insecurity permeating your entire culture born of rapist animals makes it impossible to do anything but mindlessly antagonise everyone.
That's poland you are talking about.
Russia is just a prison larping as country.
Being Russian is tiresome in general
You've never dug a trench or gotten shot at in your whole life fatass.
During WW2, in southeast Asia, an American commander had to assess the troops remaining under his command for a coming Japanese push. He considered any man that was capable of walking 100 yards without having to stop for a rest as battle-ready. Because that was all he had.
Getting your ass kicked by your smaller neighbor takes a lot out of you. Without vodka to motivate the Russian consript what point is there to do anything?
>its pilpul from western media. just ignore it.
>all they do is spread bullshit all day.
I'm trans btw
>What the frick does this even mean?
It means not getting rotated, with little to no resupplies, terrible conditions, and constant drone bombing/shelling, not counting the lack of manpower meaning you have to overexert yourself to cover the same area as more than one person.
it's called combat fatigue, people get it when they're in combat.
OP thinks it's as hard to stand watch in a trench as sitting on his balcony watching little girls pass by.
Think, moron.
>cold
>rain season makes everything wet, mud up to your ankles, no such thing as a clean space
>no rotation in half a year, no ability to rest properly
>constant drone and arty attacks or just harassment to enhance mental and physical exhaustion
>frick knows when or if you get supplies
Sure sounds peachy, doesn't it?
The political will does not exist.
Are these conscripts? Prisoners?
Remember Putin fired all those generals for insubordination.
They are trying to force and prolong this Christian brother war as long as possible for dirty money and selfish geopolitical ambitions.
>Christian brother war
Russias are Bolsheviks and killed all their Christians long ago. The sock puppet death cult is not Christianity, not even a David Koresh psycho version, you idiot gopBlack person.
You can only take so much shelling, wet and cold before you're basically worthless as a combatant, this is why reserves are important and rotating units out of the frontlines as regularly as possible. For Russia it isn't really.
It's like Germans at Verdun
French soldiers only stayed 4 to 5 days on the frontline before getting rotated, germans (being subhumans) stayed in their rotten trenches till they died.
If you dont rotate your soldiers and give them appropriate moral support they wont be able to fight.
Hence unlike the myh propagated by Von Manstein, germans got bled completely dry by attacking constantly instead of the french, just like Russians got bled completely dry unlike what Prigozhin says.
>French soldiers only stayed 4 to 5 days on the frontline before getting rotated,
Their mutinies suggest that was honored more in breach than observance.
so in other words...ukraine is too exhausted to take territory from an "exhausted" russia and the ~~*counteroffensive*~~ is a myth
>mud that goes up to your dick
>yeah just attack with your tanks and mechanized infantry bro
heem sleepy
i hate americans so god damn much, even if it's fake
> ISW
Do these morons even pay taxes to make their propaganda or are it just a couple of interns?
let me guess, something Victoria Nuland and biolabs?
>a couple interns do better intel in 15 minutes than the second army of the world does in a war
Idk anon what do you think?
Concentrating troops is hard because of HIMARS and logistics, so they have to trickle them in, and moving them out is almost unthinkable in that meta.
The Russians probably don't have reserves in the western sense. They have garrison troops with T55s in the occupied territories and recruiters to pressgang mobiks but not a cohesive high-speed unit ready to move around.
I keep seeing people say that the Russians don't rotate their troops. Would this be because they've got all their men committed to the frontline and they lack the spare capacity to properly handle troop rotation?
If all the men are committed to the front to such an extreme that they can't rotate troops, would they be stupid/desperate enough to have committed their reserves as well? Do they even have any reserves? Surely that would mean any holes punched in the front by UAF would instantly become unstoppable floods as the vatnigs would totally lack the capacity to respond adequately or quickly
Russia is fricked, isn't it?
Letting men return to the rear is dangerous. What if they start spreading rumors about how shitty everything is? good luck getting anyone to go (back) to the frontlines after that.
Hell, "professional" troopers were able to break their contracts legally all the way until the "partial" mobilization was declared.
It sure seems that way, but...
>Surely that would mean any holes punched in the front by UAF would instantly become unstoppable floods as the vatnigs would totally lack the capacity to respond adequately or quickly
Many armies have been destroyed by precisely this sort of assumption about Russia.
What version of Russia? There is no USSR, it failed. There is no Warsaw Pact to help it, they're on the other side because they're free.
You're clueless and brown.
The versions of Russia with whom modern Russia shares their geography. It's a property of the land.
>It's a property of the land.
What does that mean in English? The land doesn't fight wars.
Huge land attrits occupying forces. Nobody has the manpower to occupy the entirety of Russia, not even Russia itself. Not even the pinnacle of the Soviet Union. If the UAF broke through Russian lines and poured into Russia unopposed, they wouldn't have the manpower to continue. The Russians themselves only hold this land by default, in theory more than in practice. To contest control of that land you either declare your control over it without actually occupying all of it (this is what Russia does) or you spread your manpower thin trying to actually control that territory it and destroy yourself.
>inb4 "we'll just take the cities"
I seriously hope you aren't this stupid.
>Many armies have been destroyed by precisely this sort of assumption about Russia.
Russian Federation is none of the previous versions of the Russian Empire.
It wouldn't be the Russian Federation that defeats the invaders, Russian governments come and go, but Russia remains. The shear scale of Russia defeats all invaders. Russia, like the UK, has repeatedly proven effectively impervious to foreign invasion. This is why they have such an old grudge against each other.
>Would this be because they've got all their men committed to the frontline and they lack the spare capacity to properly handle troop rotation?
yes, which is why russia is shitting itself over this upcoming offensive
>Don't get rotated
>Have to listen to constant shelling
>Your commander will shoot you if you sleep on duty
>You're always on duty
>Why are they exhausted?
just shut up and trust the israelites would you
Spastics like OP who have never left their bedroom and camped outside for weeks know how tiring dirty and draining it is, plus under fire and drone attacks periodically, plus legendary Russian hygiene, cuisine and care for soldiers
ISW are shit and just steal analysis/maps from others
Simply sitting in a trench is not an effective defense. A good defense involves tactically offensive tasks like counter attacking to restore key defensive positions.
Two more weeks ukro shills?
Exhausted as in depleted, moron.
Ran out of Monster energy drinks.
Lend Lease Some Monsters USA!!
Is there a reason why the Russians or Ukrainians don't build spider holes like the Japanese did in ww2? It'd provide good top cover but allow them to shoot out of it if the enemy attacks. Is it the lack of morale? Wood for supports?
In what armed force did you serve?
out of supply, poor logistics, constant contact = low ORG
They are fighting for nothing and are losing severely. Low reward high risk to do anything