There were some reports of Ukies in Bilohorivka at least. Maybe the ruskies regroooooped towards Sievierodonetsk and just left the towns in the area?
If there's anything happening at all, the opsec's been pretty good these past few days.
>Lyman
this seems possible, lysychansk taken back would be a narrative that puts Russia in a state of total military collapse. Despite how fricking bad Russians seem to be at war I can't see the Uki advance keeping up that pace, resistance must have been formed at crossings and defensible positions already
maybe he meant they crossed the river into severodonetsk? it's consistent with "we took all of lyschansk" and "severodonetsk is next", and is syntactically the bridge between those two constructions.
Bilohorivka was emptied of Vatniks few days ago, if Russians really is going one echelon everywhere it's possible Lysychansk had zero defenses. But I'll wait for any visual confirmations
Not neccesarily; Russians either dead, running away, or captured, Ukrainians maintaining opsec - we'll find out in the next few days but here's hoping.
The truth is other than Lyman and Yampil we have no fricking clue where the Russians have defenses. I doubt this is actually the case, but don't be surprised if Ukie forces start showing up all over the place.
Yeah i don't believe it, Ukraine pretty much paused their offensive operations once they cleared Kharkiv and reached Lyman, I don't see another counteroffensive happening for at least another month so they can regroup and replenish
Seems like the pact rumour is credible, that the russians were allowed to leave only without their equipment. This is not what a withdrawal looks like.
Neil Hauer was there in Lysychansk not long before it fell. He was one of the few western journalists who was warning everyone that it's fall was immanent so he's definitely well connected .
This simply just doesn't make sense though. Unless the Ukranians have mastered teleportation i can't see this being true. If the Russians lose Severodonetsk it's game over. They threw thousands of bodies at that in the summer.
Keep in mind most maps we have are just based on hearsay and usually the most reliable are the most cautious and conservative ones.
The "I don't care what russians admit, I want photographic, geolocated, timestampted proof before I update my map" kind of people.
So, my first reaction was 'that's bullshit' but then I remembered that last week I reacted to the advance with 'that's bullshit' too but it ended up being entirely true so that's bullshit, but I believe it
With Ukrainian OPSEC it is more likely a few days.
And Russian Telegram channels now zip their mouth after the last NO PANIC incident.
So maybe it will take more time. Unfortunately.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/09/18/russia-has-no-reserves-left-as-ukrainian-troops-surround-a-key-eastern-town/ >The Ukrainians’ momentum, weighted by aggressive air and artillery support, has carried them a short distance across the Oskil and south toward Lyman. Now several of Kyiv’s brigades—a mix of paratroopers and territorials—also are closing on Lyman ... from the opposite direction. >“Further Ukrainian advances east along the north bank of the Siverskyi Donets River could make Russian positions around Lyman untenable and open the approaches to Lysychansk and ultimately Severodonetsk.” >ISW’s own assessment is even less favorable for the Russians. “The Russian defenders in Lyman still appear to consist in large part of ... reservists and the remnants of units badly damaged in the Kharkiv Oblast counteroffensive,” the think-tank stated. >Worse, “the Russians do not appear to be directing reinforcements from elsewhere in the theater to these areas,” ISW added.
100% bullshit
Zero evidence or chatter about it. Likely misinterpreted or read too much into what the source actually said or meant
We'll see tomorrow I guess
Psyop to frick with the Russian defenders in Lyman
I don’t know why these guys make these statements. When they’re shown to be wrong you cant believe anything they say again.
That'd why he put it in quotes. It's like a free pass to lie.
Opposite, you have more freedom to make shit up if not in quotes. Quote are supposed to be attributable and verbatim.
>anonymous source
Unless Russia completely pulled out (doubtful) and did so with a certain efficiency and expedience (lmao) there is no chance.
Lyman I could believe though.
my guess that Lyman likely to be deoccupied by the end of month
There were some reports of Ukies in Bilohorivka at least. Maybe the ruskies regroooooped towards Sievierodonetsk and just left the towns in the area?
If there's anything happening at all, the opsec's been pretty good these past few days.
>Lyman
this seems possible, lysychansk taken back would be a narrative that puts Russia in a state of total military collapse. Despite how fricking bad Russians seem to be at war I can't see the Uki advance keeping up that pace, resistance must have been formed at crossings and defensible positions already
Strangest thing is about river crossing. If Ukraine doesn't need to cross a river to take Lysychansk, unless they crossed Siversky Donets twice
maybe he meant they crossed the river into severodonetsk? it's consistent with "we took all of lyschansk" and "severodonetsk is next", and is syntactically the bridge between those two constructions.
Lysychansk is more probably than Lyman at this moment.
iykyk
is more probable*
frick my autism
Maybe Russia wants to absorb all the neg PR now to have optimally defensible lines now overwinter while they train up new army via mobilization?
>american foreign legion LARPer didn't understand the name of the city they're in
many such cases
Big If true
Bilohorivka was emptied of Vatniks few days ago, if Russians really is going one echelon everywhere it's possible Lysychansk had zero defenses. But I'll wait for any visual confirmations
Hard to believe. There would be a lot of Telegram chatter from Russians or vids from Ukrainians if that happened.
Not neccesarily; Russians either dead, running away, or captured, Ukrainians maintaining opsec - we'll find out in the next few days but here's hoping.
The truth is other than Lyman and Yampil we have no fricking clue where the Russians have defenses. I doubt this is actually the case, but don't be surprised if Ukie forces start showing up all over the place.
I don't believe it.
habeeb it
BISCUIT TROUSERS!
Yeah i don't believe it, Ukraine pretty much paused their offensive operations once they cleared Kharkiv and reached Lyman, I don't see another counteroffensive happening for at least another month so they can regroup and replenish
>the river is crossing
*faint ooking noise in the distance*
Even if they reached Lysychansk, the cleanup would take at least a couple of days
why did you post a picture of the 1st Guards Tank Army?
Here's your mechanized brigade, bro
how do you lose 20+ command vehicles in an “orderly retreat?”
Heroic Russian officers vacating their positions with maximum efficiency.
They issued the command to retreat in an orderly fashion from the vehicle and then ditched the command vehicle, its purpose having been served.
Seems like the pact rumour is credible, that the russians were allowed to leave only without their equipment. This is not what a withdrawal looks like.
That's russia's dignity.
americans will believe the first thing they read on twitter
i learned about the kiev, kharkiv and snake island feints through twitter
ukraine claimed they took lyschansk last tuesday. is lyschansk the new pisky?
Neil Hauer was there in Lysychansk not long before it fell. He was one of the few western journalists who was warning everyone that it's fall was immanent so he's definitely well connected .
This simply just doesn't make sense though. Unless the Ukranians have mastered teleportation i can't see this being true. If the Russians lose Severodonetsk it's game over. They threw thousands of bodies at that in the summer.
Keep in mind most maps we have are just based on hearsay and usually the most reliable are the most cautious and conservative ones.
The "I don't care what russians admit, I want photographic, geolocated, timestampted proof before I update my map" kind of people.
I'm really doubtful regardless.
If it *is* true then this war is over and the Russian frontline is officially collapsing.
This thread has nothing to do with weapons. Twitter gossip threads about current events and politics belong on
So, my first reaction was 'that's bullshit' but then I remembered that last week I reacted to the advance with 'that's bullshit' too but it ended up being entirely true so that's bullshit, but I believe it
This guy is a Kremlin concern troll, hope this means his contacts started feeding him bogus info.
this is actually probably true. i would be willing to put money on it
If you are wrong give this guy 20 bucks https://twitter.com/secretsqrl123/status/1571581798270013441
sure maybe. maybe i donate 20 bucks regardless. do they have something more official than a twitter accout?
oh frick it's true boys. give it a few hours to be offically announced
With Ukrainian OPSEC it is more likely a few days.
And Russian Telegram channels now zip their mouth after the last NO PANIC incident.
So maybe it will take more time. Unfortunately.
Crazy. I saw a tweet that said the same thing but the Russians have it. Wow they both must be true
>River is crossed
Lysyschansk is on the Ukrainian side of the river.
It's complete bullshit unfortunately.
puccians believe there's 100k SAS supersoldiers coming and abandooon immediately
it's 200k SAS
>Biden could end this war tomorrow by merely pretending to deploy US troops into Ukraine and making the Russians scatter
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/09/18/russia-has-no-reserves-left-as-ukrainian-troops-surround-a-key-eastern-town/
>The Ukrainians’ momentum, weighted by aggressive air and artillery support, has carried them a short distance across the Oskil and south toward Lyman. Now several of Kyiv’s brigades—a mix of paratroopers and territorials—also are closing on Lyman ... from the opposite direction.
>“Further Ukrainian advances east along the north bank of the Siverskyi Donets River could make Russian positions around Lyman untenable and open the approaches to Lysychansk and ultimately Severodonetsk.”
>ISW’s own assessment is even less favorable for the Russians. “The Russian defenders in Lyman still appear to consist in large part of ... reservists and the remnants of units badly damaged in the Kharkiv Oblast counteroffensive,” the think-tank stated.
>Worse, “the Russians do not appear to be directing reinforcements from elsewhere in the theater to these areas,” ISW added.
Ukrainians are already in Bilohorivka which is just west of Lysychansk so it's not hard to believe