What sort of defenses does an IL-76 have?

When they start getting pinging and the alarms start going off in the wienerpit that they have attempts at missile lock, I would think a plane like this would have many defenses it could call on? It just seems like it should not be easy to shoot down a military craft that is executing proper countermeasures.

>Zig zag or jink to avoid missile lock
>Mass flare dump
>Plane must have a sophisticated ECM suite, so ECM officer james the radars and missiles
>Firing tail turrets for point defense and shooting down incoming missiles
>Drop all drop tanks and self detonate them. The massive explosion may hid the plane temporarily
>Dive and/or break hard right to make the missile fail on angle of attack
>Execute a cargo dump and use it as chaff to protect against the missiles

Also it looked like the plane had some time while it was going down. Why didn't the crew eject or jump out with their parachutes (if ejector was broken)?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >would think a plane like this would have many defenses it could call on?
    you'd be wrong.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yea lets zig zag a cargo plane that is surely more maneuverable than a missile lmao frickin idiot

    Extremely low quality post designed to make the board less interesting

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If a missile is going really fast it is not very maneuverable right? It can be defeated by angle of attack just like in American football if someone one defense takes a bad line when trying to tackle the person holding the ball.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >right?
        no

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A C-130 might have had a chance, but what sort of "ECM suite" do you think the Russians have? Kek. Does this plane even have an "ECM officer"?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >what sort of defenses does an IL-76 have
    Not many aside from pretending it's a PoW transport for some reason.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    An IL-76 has no counter measures itself and relies on escorts to do that for them. As a cargo plane, it is not supposed to be flown into enemy or contested territory, which is why no counter-measures were ever designed for the plane itself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I am convinced there were no POWs on that plane but the story about it carrying weapons does not seem that plausible either because that just looks like a normal cargo plane full of fuel explosion.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly someone in another thread said it might have been full of Iranian glowies and officers, which would make a lot of sense given how much pants shitting appears to be happening.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          While that would be nice, and would explain why it was shot down when Ukraine thus far hasn't gone after the cargo planes much at all to my knowledge, we haven't seen more bodies than you'd expect from the crew.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >just looks like a normal cargo plane full of fuel explosion
        Well, about that. Here is a "normal" IL-76 exploding for comparison. Looks to be about 10% to 20% of the yield for today's clown show.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          A plane landing is going to have way less fuel onboard compared to something right after take off

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What about in the original pic where it is dropping all them flares?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I haven't seen that image, could you share it please?

        There's no flare trail in the vid, so if it did deploy them, it must have been a while before it was shot down.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >original pic where it is dropping all them flares
        Post it. Let's see it. Nobody else has posted such a thing in the last six hours in any of the ten or fifteen threads on this topic.

        If there's pics or vid of this IL-76 dropping any sort of flares of countermeasures, we all need to see it ASAP. The originals, before they get watermarked and edited into uselessness.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is this the actual footage from today's shootdown or some pre-war accident?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Actual footage of today's shootdown. Here's the two videos we currently have of the crash site.

        I am convinced there were no POWs on that plane but the story about it carrying weapons does not seem that plausible either because that just looks like a normal cargo plane full of fuel explosion.

        The ziggers are having a mental breakdown over this, like they did when the Cube was first spawned, so SOMETHING important was on that plane, we just don't know what yet.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Here's the second video of the crash site.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            When they rotated the camera, was that a rocket tube or just a pipe?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I can't tell, we'll need to find a rocket autist to confirm for us.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well then it should be pretty easy for the Vatniks to show the burnt remains of 65 actual POWs, as they claim.

          If it takes them 1 week to show this, that means they carted in dead mobiks to salt their crash site.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >carted in dead mobiks
            Nah. DNA testing is an actual thing, even in pozziya.

            They have Ukie POW corpses sitting in a meat locker waiting to be used for a propaganda opportunity such as this.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          this reminds me of snake island

          I think this is going to be the same kind of story as that

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Remind me, that was actually Ukrainian jets doing the bombing?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              why would Russians bomb their own island and their soldiers?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, the HUD overlay is from a Bayraktar

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              there are two clips of bombing runs, one is from ukies and one is from ruskies. you can tell them apart due to the russians missing the island completely with most of the bombs

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah,something about the reaction is iffy.the thing with bad liars is that they sometimes overreact when their "truth" is challenged.I dont think that ziggers usually care that much about a single cargo plane and they certainly didn't react like this when the ukie's hit those landing ships etc.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There wasn't this much seethe when they lost an A50. Idk what was on the plane but it certainly wasn't 60 PoWs. Also that number has shifted up to 65 which is just plain odd.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Bane?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The ziggers are having a mental breakdown over this, like they did when the Cube was first spawned, so SOMETHING important was on that plane, we just don't know what yet.
          the weekly cum delivery to serbia...

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Truly a humanitarian crisis of biblical proportions.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Saved
              Now just need the ocean draining gif

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              LMAO the writer must have been real familiar with Russian writting and especially how USSR and now Russian propaganda was written judging by the language.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Here's the second video of the crash site.

          Where Ukrainian POWs?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There is one of them in the wreckage

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Dressed in orange like a Russian Aircrewmen?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Dressed like a crewman?
              https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/mh17-bodies
              This is how it would look if it was carrying a bunch of people.
              Notice how it doesn't?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Did they shoot him first?
              I wonder why they'd do that.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              He was a big guy for us.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              D-Dr. Pavel??

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >the fire rises

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It’s up to 80 POWs now. The number keeps going up, gonna be 100 soon. No you may not see them, at least until Russia kills 100 to put on the wreckage

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They need time to die and be scattered into the field please understand.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Based on the media blitz, I am convinced Shoigu was on it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Interesting, that would explain why the zigger nest is abuzz. Do you have a link to this you can share?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nah. That would be too funny.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Speaking of which, have there been any signs of Gerasimov being alive recently?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Gerasimov
              He went missing after the A-50 got shot down right?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, he hasn't been seen since a missile strike in Crimea a few weeks before, where he was allegedly killed

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Same week, different event. He potentially got got by the missile strike in crimea that took out a bunch of high ranking officers.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm willing to bet he just got wounded, possibly for the first time.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >possibly for the first time.
                He's been wounded in a HIMARS strike before.
                Wasn't he the one that lost his dick? or was that another one

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The one who lost his dick was this Mafia motherfricker who was robbing the RU space agency. Its thought that Gerasimov possibly lost his foot in 2022.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Mafia motherfricker who was robbing the RU space agency
                Rogozin?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think so yes. He got shelled in Donetsk.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah he got a shrapnel of CESAR arty in his dick and wrote an angry letter to Macron.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Here's the second video of the crash site.

          looks at all those bodies

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gorbachev's Krokodil

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    morons OP copy pasted the question from another thread and framed it about the recent shootdown

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia ALWAYS lies
    >but this time they're telling the truth

    To be honest, it's nice that people are taking this seriously. Shows they're not disillusioned. But Russia almost always lies.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They lied again.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They'll just deflect and say he just meant the pilots.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Lol Africans are always doing moronic shit and embarrassing Russia haha. I wish I could recall the prior time something like this happened, it was funny.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >sincere condolences for the death of Russian soldiers for of the crash il-76- the president of chad during a meeting with Putin

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So this is an example of the fabled "Chad move" I see being talked about so much on PrepHole?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It was taking off and at very low altitude when it was shot down. The flight crew probably hadn't even finished the full take-off sequence. If they even had any alarms already on and if sensors would even function correctly during take-off, the chances to drop countermeasures would have been near-zero.

    Pretty much everything you suggested is moronic, like a ten year old trying to grasp and explain what's going on here from watching a G I Joe cartoon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You motherfricker.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Snake Island ark was best so far.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Plane must have a sophisticated ECM suite
    Was listed as a "nice to have" feature, so no

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Comrade yuo are of russian air force now. Be happy if plane has all engines of working and full allotment of fuel. Worry about countermeasures comes after worry for plane getting into the air.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >be a massive target that can't maneuver
    >no jink, no zigzag
    >flares don't affect radar guided missiles
    >jamming won't work when the missile is close
    >has no tail turret
    >?
    >diving woin't help you when the missile is close, not in this thing
    >?
    >I think only the flight crew can even eject, everyone else dies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, OP needs to lay off the video games for a while.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do even know how many IL-76s russia has working
    >Google says 140
    But that just seems like they're taking it straight from USSR days

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well, 139 now.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >sophisticated ECM suite
    >Russia

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does it truly go BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEEEEEEEEEEEEP in the wienerpit when they have a missile locked on to you or is that just a movies thing?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on the system. Some do, whilst others will just beep the once to notify you.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Comrade, it's a cargo plane! Just pull the fuse, why would they need a radar warning receiver
    >Mark it as fixed on the logbook and let's go drink vodka

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    old pic

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    https://i.imgur.com/0v4g0y5.png

    [...]
    old pic

    [...]

    [...]

    Damn, the /misc/trannies are really desperate to push the POW narrative.
    What was in that plane? Year's worth of Russian cum rations bound for Serbia?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      post the updated version

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    why do they get out of the plane? and not in the plane if this is the plane

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's a hohol plane

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's a group of Ukrainian POWs being exchanged in September

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Just got your thread pruned, but still trying to spread the brand new lie of the day?

    https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/60753298/

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What sort of defenses does an IL-76 have?
    Oh yes, once an IL-76 gets a lock it does the most traditional thing a Russian can do: Get fricked and die.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Ria Novosti news agency said another nine people were on the plane, including six crew.

    >Ukraine's general staff, quoted by the Ukrainska Pravda website, said initially that the plane was transporting missiles for Russia's S-300 air defence systems. It made no mention of prisoners of war.
    why are you moronic, ramesh?

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The plane was shot down by Russian MANPAD

    It's not even high enough to register on Ukraine radar, never mind send a missile from 200km away.

    Russia says it's POWs, Ukraine says it's S-300 missiles. Both sides are liying.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >if i repeat something hard enough it will become true
    troony mentality

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still trying to figure out if Admiral Sokolov is dead or not?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't matter. Every single claimed person killed by Ukraine is alive and Russia will do some half-arsed evidence (phonecall, recording etc) and claim he is totally alive and then everybody forgets and assume he is alive despite nobody seeing any of them since.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well are you or not? We don’t know what you’re trying to figure out.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Where are the bodies? Just like that time russian BUK system shot down Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 back in 2014?

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    what is there to cope over? we have aftermath images of the crash and there is not 80 odd bodies there (65 POW, changed from 60 after a few hours, plus crew plus guards). We see a couple - all in the uniform of Russian aircrews. Where are the masses of bodies? When the civilian airliner was shot down, there were images of all the bodies and they're online right now. Why is the crash site missing the bodies? Why did the President of Chad not mention the POW's but only mentioned the Russian aircrew on board? Why is Russia going so fricking mad over this if it was a simple case of an IL-76 with POWs being shot down?

    Come on man, you don't have to be le zigger xD poster to look at fricking objective reality and empirical evidence.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Beginning to think these vatBlack folk may actually be paid shills unironically. I know a lot of chuggers are delusional but the way these post, completely ignoring all evidence against what they are claiming, is just mindboggling.
    Theres no way they genuinely believe that themselves and theyre way too dedicated for it just to be for (you)s

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the spammer is even pretending to be different people even claiming he's some flight expert

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      First time?
      It was exactly like this in /k/ back 2014 when they shot down MH17

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Now with sound

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, go back and read the first thread when this happened, it had a WebM of the crash as the OP image. You can see when the shill farm shows up.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What I don't get is why they still target /k/ after two years without notable success.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This place (somehow) has enough influence as an OSINT aggregator to not be allowed to exist completely unmolested.
        The fact that their methodichka fails to take root here ironically enough proves the need for it to be spammed here

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Because they're not targeting people who use /k/ a lot and know about the likes of Armatard; they're here to get the people who are clueless/interested. The people who come here. This is how arguments work. People very rarely argue with people of the opposite side (lets say left wing vs right wing) because they hope to change the mind of the guy they're arguing with - they're arguing because they want to get the mind of the 'undecided' onto theirs. It's like shaking a guy sitting on a fence. You want him to fall to YOUR side, you're not trying to get the other guy shaking the fence on the OTHER side to come to yours because he is very unlikely to.

        That's why they're here. They're here to trick the unsure. Besides, simply throwing in doubt is often enough and people will pick it up and carry it. It's why the proof of Sokolov is enough. It's enough to say he is alive - the fact he hasn't been seen since September 2023 (or at least claimed to be him) - is enough. His wikipedia page will cite he is alive and that is pretty much as far as 99% of people will go. The fact he is missing for months and that is odd for a guy claimed to be killed is ignored. Point being, Russia and shills does enough to doubt and to make sure sites like Wiki say he is alive.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The real reason is that PrepHole has enough Russian-speaking users that they target it because they see it as a way to disinform and shape Russian speakers, not so much westerners. It's why their propaganda is somewhat weird and more specific, specially here on /k/.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      40k rubbles/mo won't earn themselves

      What I don't get is why they still target /k/ after two years without notable success.

      The boss ordered to spam on PrepHole, and who are they to argue with the boss?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How much is 45k rubles in United States $dollars?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          'Bout tree fiddy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Theres no way they genuinely believe that themselves and theyre way too dedicated for it just to be for (you)s
      didnt you pay attention during pringles great prankening. For two whole days zigger activity dropped to almost zero. Even on fricking /misc/ of all places. Then when the new narrative formed the bots, both scripted and biological, came back in full force

      ziggerism is artificial as frick

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Reminder that uncle Pringles was one of the main responsibles for the shill farms, something he eventually admitted to while in Bakhmut.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone just post a geolocation of the plane and it’s heading so we can all put this mega Black person chugoid sperging to rest ?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Can someone just post a geolocation of the plane and it’s heading so we can all put this mega Black person chugoid sperging to rest ?
      Someone posted this in the other thread.

      TLDR. Geolocated landmarks from the video suggests the plane was traveling North East away from Belogrod and further into Russia.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        At the risk of helping the vatniks, I'm not sure how much stock I would put in the heading a plane that's lost so much altitude and control at that point. It looks like it's in an continued bank even in the image posted, so it could have been spiraling it's way down after losing control surfaces or trying to pull out of a spin after being hit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You can extrapolate heading from the missile explosion smoke and the crash site.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The point is that the crash site might have no bearing on the way the plane was initially headed since a loss of control in altitude can easily come with a loss in control of heading as you try to regain control.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              lol cope you can see the missile hit right next to the crash site

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              But the explosion of the SAM was not very far away, there is a smoke cloud still dispersing in the sky caught on video and you could just trace a straight line between the smoke puff and the crash site to get the heading.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So you're saying that it crashed almost directly downwards instead of continuing on it's flight axis? You do understand how that might relate to a spin where the plane is going to be making circles as it tries to regain altitude control, instead of the normal forward flight where extrapolation would actually be useful.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No you spastic I’m saying it got hit then rapidly lost altitude while MOSTLY maintaining heading. It did not spin out until very late when it was almost smashing into the ground.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Still no photos of those dead POWs?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Of course there are!
      They just go to another school is all

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no need, puccia will come up with new lie tomorrow

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        *a new embarrassment
        ftfy

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When it got hit by the missile shouldn't it have been able to just glided forward with it's airspeed and make a rough landing? Do you think the wienerpit crew were maybe killed by the missile hit and that is why they ran into that issue?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >When it got hit by the missile shouldn't it have been able to just glided forward with it's airspeed and make a rough landing?
      what happens in movies isn't real

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's basically what the IL-22's first officer did, anon. Guess this time the damage was too extensive for that, though.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          By the looks of it the engines snapped off the wings before it hit the ground.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's basically what the IL-22's first officer did, anon. Guess this time the damage was too extensive for that, though.

        By the looks of it the engines snapped off the wings before it hit the ground.

        Hmm. This might suggest that a really big cargo bird like that might have also been laden with cargo? If the superstructure or ... well, any local stress points too. Something about the wings or the way they attach may have been damaged (probably was) and those became immediate failure points. Remember, this plane was still ascending from take off, engines were probably also fairly rev'd up.

        >the strength of the engines at full throttle, literally, ripped the wings off the main hull
        Could'a happened to anybody.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Flares and prayers. That’s literally it.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > Ejector seats on a cargo jet

    Maybe on a test vehicle, but the pilot punching out and leaving everyone else behind to die is considered bad form.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But why would only pilot could eject?

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