Cool sleeping bag anon, what’s the weight of that?
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What sleeping bag do you have or what sleeping bag or you looking to get? Sleeping bag thread
I’ve got a black ice down bag I got from China that’s pretty sweet. Has a zip that goes all the way round the foot box so it can be spread out flat like a quilt which I quite like.
I took the snugpill so I have a snugpak softie 3 and softie 10. Got good deals on both of them. Synthetic so they are heavier than down but I live in rainy places and those things are so damn comfortable.
I have pic related and want to try a western mountaineering bag. I've gotten more into mountain climbing and for that you need a lot of gear so saving weight is crucial compared to like just backpacking.
I used the cheapest synthetic pieces of shit for the longest time but recently I bought a couple of surplus woolen blankets. They're a bit heavier but honestly I like them more. By carrying two I get quite a good temperature range too.
I just have two cheap sleeping bags: Snugpak Travelpak 2 and 4. Travelpak 4 is a winter bag and very bulky. I want to get a new backpack, probably Osprey Kestrel 68, but I'm unsure if it will fit.
for what? my summer hiking bag is a western mountaineering nanolite if its going to be warmer and an ultralight if its cooler. car camping i have an oversized 20 degree teton, it only comfortable to low 40s but i like that its roomy.
I’ve been using the Nemo disco 15 for a few years now, great when used with an xtherm in the winter months and an xlite for any other time of the year. Recently bought a feathered friends hummingbird 20 because I wanted something lighter although I think they pack down to a similar volume due to fill power. The disco’s still way roomier and perfectly capable with the right sleep/layering system.
Caribee Auscam Deploy 1300 supposedly 0C rated and of course the Auscam helps me stay undetected if seppos break into my tent in the middle of the night. Other features include being the cheapest bag I could find which accommodates someone 6'3".
I have an old Cat's Meow that I used forever. Now I have two quilts, a Katabatic 20F and a JacksRBetter 40F. Looking to get or make a lighter synthetic for high summer as well as a summer weight underquilt. I still have humidity concerns but so far the down has served me very well.
I’ve got pic related (but with a green plaid flannel lining) that I’ve had for 30+ years now, plus my old Boy Scout nylon outer light weight bag that's 40 years old.
When I was using a tent for deer hunting, I’d lay out the heavy bag and place the light bag ontop and secure it all around the edges and hinge with safety pins, for an extra thick comfy bag.
British army surplus equivalent of Carinthia Defence 4. It cost me 50€ and the stated comfort rating of -10°C is pretty much correct, I have had very comfy sleeps in it.
I have a coleman mummy bag. It was pretty cheap for what it is and it works really well on cold nights. I keep my feet in the bottom pocket and leave the reast of the bag unzipped over me like a blanket it works great.
ITT: Germans preparing for the coming energy rationing this winter.
I have two quilts for a hammock system, both from Jacks R Better: a 3/4 length 20° Mt Washington, and a regular length 40° Shenandoah. These are combined with a long length, rectangular Sea to Summit “silk” liner. I live in the South, and two 20° quilts would have been too warm nearly all of the time. When it gets into the 30’s I just wear heavier sleep clothes.
I’ve been using a similar combo for almost 20 years. Same brand but different quilts.
Well, it depends on your hot weather. In Finland if it is over 20°C in night, it is considered as hot weather. You may want some kind of a bag because human body temperature drops while sleeping and you may start feeling cold at surprisingly warm temperatures. Also, in army we were taught that you should always aim to sleep comfy and warm during exercises/expeditions because otherwise you would not recover from the last days stress and that shit builds up untill your performance is degraded down to the level when you are not able to fulfill your tasks and your risk of injuring rises.
Normally during summer here it is not out of ordinary for the weather to drop to around 10°C during nights though. If it is very warm during nights and I sleep outdoors, I may just pack a wool blanket and cover half of my body (or nothing at all) with it. Otherwise I opt for a dedicated sleeping bag with enough "reserve" in the comfort rating for the forecasted temperature.
how can these things fail they're passive objects >tent collapses
now it's a bivy
Well yes, but if the seams get torn due to the wind, at worst case scenario you will have no shelter from the elements
is a mattress necessary? a foam one will do?
Some kind of insulation (sleeping pad or matt, pine branches, leaves etc) is a mus, since you will loose a surprisingly large amount of body heat to ground. Back in boy scouts we had a saying that one layer between sleeper and ground is better than 6 layers between sleeper and sky. Foam mattress will do, it is just not as comfy as air filled ones.
Now you may call me as larper as you always will do.
it matters more how cold the night is than how hot the days are in the area you're camping. and there's also a big difference between 'can, as in you won't die' and 'actually getting decent sleep'
it also depends a lot of other factors. if you're a back sleeper you can get away with less. if you sleep hot you can get away with less. if you sleep heavy you can get away with less. etc etc.
some people in my same region will sleep on nothing but a thinlight even through the shoulder months in the pnw. i carry around a foam and an inflatable pad because i roll around when i sleep even though i'm cold tolerant. depends a lot person to person. depends if you use a groundsheet. depends how warm your bag is. too many factors to say.
good way to find out is do a few nights out with your normal sleeping bag, then whatever you want to try out as a summer months alternative.
in the summer i often just sleep with a sheet quilt or sleeping bag liner or something like that. i like to roll around and have a breeze.
I have 3:
Carinthia defence 1 (bought for 115eu/120usd) but it shot up like 25% in price since and def not worth it imo at a price of 160eu
Chinese down sleeping bag for cold weather: it works great doesn't really have a recognised brand and was only 60eu.
Chinese polyester for warm weather 20eu, its just light compressible and works for warmer weather's.
I like the defence 1 the most cause its most breathable and also has the widest range of temperatures it works well in. Also its polyester but feels nice on skin so no need for a liner
I'm in the market for a bag, but mummy bags don't work for me as I sleep on my side/ stomach with one leg sticking way out, so I'm leaning more toward a rectangular bag. I remember an anon saying a while back they really liked the sierra designs backcountry bed and that they were a side sleeper but I've also been looking into the zenbivy as it's roughly the same thing just more modular from just looking at it.
Any thoughts or input from frens that have used either?
Really I wouldn't skimp out on either, if either fails on you in the backcountry it could spell the end of a trip prematurely. Though really it depends on what camping you're doing, car camping you can probably cheap out on a tent but might want to invest in a more cushy sleep system.
both are important but if i had to choose, sleeping bag.
its worth it to consider: used tents are fine, and can save you a lot of money. used sleeping bags are kinda gross.
"all you need" is a cold weather and a warm weather sleeping bag, and sleeping bags are cheaper than any alternatives especially second hand. but its definitely a nice luxury to have an "even less" option for summer.
exact temp ratings to go for with all this depends where you are and how you sleep.
Is snugpak a good brand? Or is there a better brand out there? Saw it mentioned earlier in the thread. I want a sleeping bag that I can connect with another so I can snuggle cute androgynous femboys.
It's a respectable brand, but they also have cheap chink shit. Unless you want to climb the Mont Blanc their stuff will be ok.
https://i.imgur.com/OfImpWI.jpg
I have 3:
Carinthia defence 1 (bought for 115eu/120usd) but it shot up like 25% in price since and def not worth it imo at a price of 160eu
Chinese down sleeping bag for cold weather: it works great doesn't really have a recognised brand and was only 60eu.
Chinese polyester for warm weather 20eu, its just light compressible and works for warmer weather's.
I like the defence 1 the most cause its most breathable and also has the widest range of temperatures it works well in. Also its polyester but feels nice on skin so no need for a liner
I have one, it's a bit small (bought the regular one, am 185cm) and still to hot in the summer. I will sell it probably.
My sleeping pad is a Thermarest Neo Xlite with a sheet so i don't stick to it at night.
In the summer i use a cheap Miltec poncho liner as a blanket. If it gets colder, say below 10°C, i use a Vaude Alpstein 450 quilt. If it gets below 0°C i combine it with the poncho liner.
It's a respectable brand, but they also have cheap chink shit. Unless you want to climb the Mont Blanc their stuff will be ok.
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I have one, it's a bit small (bought the regular one, am 185cm) and still to hot in the summer. I will sell it probably.
My sleeping pad is a Thermarest Neo Xlite with a sheet so i don't stick to it at night.
In the summer i use a cheap Miltec poncho liner as a blanket. If it gets colder, say below 10°C, i use a Vaude Alpstein 450 quilt. If it gets below 0°C i combine it with the poncho liner.
But preferably good quality so it will last me. Don't mind spending a lot now if it will last me for years/lifetime.
I have enlightened equipment quilts for three seasons use, one single person and one two person for when my gf comes with me.
For winter I have a feathered friends mummy.
I ordered one of these 'Black Snow' chinese down sleeping bags off aliexpress for $90. Total weight is 1150g. Reported comfort temperature rating of 40°F, limit of 32°. Comes with a compression sack, dont know how small it can be packed down. Wont get here until end of July, Ill report back when I have it on hand
It works for me. Ultra light, too.
Cool sleeping bag anon, what’s the weight of that?
I’ve got a black ice down bag I got from China that’s pretty sweet. Has a zip that goes all the way round the foot box so it can be spread out flat like a quilt which I quite like.
It doesn't look ultralight or comfortable what a shit show
>still upset
I have the Nemo disco. It was on a 30% off sale,and I like the vents since I sleep hot.
I took the snugpill so I have a snugpak softie 3 and softie 10. Got good deals on both of them. Synthetic so they are heavier than down but I live in rainy places and those things are so damn comfortable.
currently using a synthetic bag rated down to -2 for winter. i would like a cosy quilt though that doesn't break the bank.
for the temperature rating they are a steal. only thing that puts me off is the weight. 2kg+ seems excessive.
Get down then. Your money.
sleeping bags are for homosexuals. if you want to sleep in a bag, you might as well just sleep in a coffin. only homosexuals use sleeping bags
I have the us military sleep system (0c bag, -10 bag and goretex bivy) and have never even considered getting another bag. I am set from -40c to +40c.
I have that too, only reason I gave in to the light expensive shit is a drunk driver fricked up my back.
I still use the bivy and summer bag though.
It's your fault
>the milsurpers think the ultralighters are technicolor espresso yuppies
>we're just oldgays with back problems
huehuehue
https://www.wiggys.com/sleeping-bags/
Got a wiggys, it's pretty comfy, big zipper.
I have pic related and want to try a western mountaineering bag. I've gotten more into mountain climbing and for that you need a lot of gear so saving weight is crucial compared to like just backpacking.
shit forgot the pic
mine is a very cheap $5 synthetic motherfricker and it is perfectly good and warm down to 10C
I used the cheapest synthetic pieces of shit for the longest time but recently I bought a couple of surplus woolen blankets. They're a bit heavier but honestly I like them more. By carrying two I get quite a good temperature range too.
I just have two cheap sleeping bags: Snugpak Travelpak 2 and 4. Travelpak 4 is a winter bag and very bulky. I want to get a new backpack, probably Osprey Kestrel 68, but I'm unsure if it will fit.
MacPac Sanctuary. Fricking cozy, in it right now, winter in NZ.
Exactly this one. Only with duct tape patches.
Highly recommend.
Oh have an Escapade for summer too.
Wider, unzips to blanket, and not so insanely warm.
for what? my summer hiking bag is a western mountaineering nanolite if its going to be warmer and an ultralight if its cooler. car camping i have an oversized 20 degree teton, it only comfortable to low 40s but i like that its roomy.
I’ve been using the Nemo disco 15 for a few years now, great when used with an xtherm in the winter months and an xlite for any other time of the year. Recently bought a feathered friends hummingbird 20 because I wanted something lighter although I think they pack down to a similar volume due to fill power. The disco’s still way roomier and perfectly capable with the right sleep/layering system.
Caribee Auscam Deploy 1300 supposedly 0C rated and of course the Auscam helps me stay undetected if seppos break into my tent in the middle of the night. Other features include being the cheapest bag I could find which accommodates someone 6'3".
I have an old Cat's Meow that I used forever. Now I have two quilts, a Katabatic 20F and a JacksRBetter 40F. Looking to get or make a lighter synthetic for high summer as well as a summer weight underquilt. I still have humidity concerns but so far the down has served me very well.
>What sleeping bag do you have
I’ve got pic related (but with a green plaid flannel lining) that I’ve had for 30+ years now, plus my old Boy Scout nylon outer light weight bag that's 40 years old.
When I was using a tent for deer hunting, I’d lay out the heavy bag and place the light bag ontop and secure it all around the edges and hinge with safety pins, for an extra thick comfy bag.
I have one of these too. I use it on the regular just as a comforter. They're the best, but not very backpacking friendly.
> I have one of these too. I use it on the regular just as a comforter.
I’ve contemplated getting a twin bed sized comforter, as I don’t bother zipping up the sleeping bag in the summer anyways.
> They're the best, but not very backpacking friendly.
When I was double bagging, it was so thick I couldn’t fold it in half, so it was a huge long roll but it was completely comfy in winter weather.
British army surplus equivalent of Carinthia Defence 4. It cost me 50€ and the stated comfort rating of -10°C is pretty much correct, I have had very comfy sleeps in it.
Poorgay here, that sounds like something I need because Defence 4 is like 200 euros.
Just get a quilt
I have a coleman mummy bag. It was pretty cheap for what it is and it works really well on cold nights. I keep my feet in the bottom pocket and leave the reast of the bag unzipped over me like a blanket it works great.
haven't used it more than twice yet but it kept me comfortable at -1 degree celsius
20°f feather friends, bought 2015.
Probably got about 5000 miles on it.
Packs up small.
I've bought many other bags and quilts since then, so far its my goto for any serious adventure .
ITT: Germans preparing for the coming energy rationing this winter.
I have two quilts for a hammock system, both from Jacks R Better: a 3/4 length 20° Mt Washington, and a regular length 40° Shenandoah. These are combined with a long length, rectangular Sea to Summit “silk” liner. I live in the South, and two 20° quilts would have been too warm nearly all of the time. When it gets into the 30’s I just wear heavier sleep clothes.
I’ve been using a similar combo for almost 20 years. Same brand but different quilts.
is a mattress necessary? a foam one will do?
A cheap yoga mat is really all you need down to about 20*F
Any colder than that and you can just double them up
do you even need a sleeping bag for hot weather
Silk blanket is what I use in the summer
Well, it depends on your hot weather. In Finland if it is over 20°C in night, it is considered as hot weather. You may want some kind of a bag because human body temperature drops while sleeping and you may start feeling cold at surprisingly warm temperatures. Also, in army we were taught that you should always aim to sleep comfy and warm during exercises/expeditions because otherwise you would not recover from the last days stress and that shit builds up untill your performance is degraded down to the level when you are not able to fulfill your tasks and your risk of injuring rises.
Normally during summer here it is not out of ordinary for the weather to drop to around 10°C during nights though. If it is very warm during nights and I sleep outdoors, I may just pack a wool blanket and cover half of my body (or nothing at all) with it. Otherwise I opt for a dedicated sleeping bag with enough "reserve" in the comfort rating for the forecasted temperature.
Well yes, but if the seams get torn due to the wind, at worst case scenario you will have no shelter from the elements
Some kind of insulation (sleeping pad or matt, pine branches, leaves etc) is a mus, since you will loose a surprisingly large amount of body heat to ground. Back in boy scouts we had a saying that one layer between sleeper and ground is better than 6 layers between sleeper and sky. Foam mattress will do, it is just not as comfy as air filled ones.
Now you may call me as larper as you always will do.
it matters more how cold the night is than how hot the days are in the area you're camping. and there's also a big difference between 'can, as in you won't die' and 'actually getting decent sleep'
it also depends a lot of other factors. if you're a back sleeper you can get away with less. if you sleep hot you can get away with less. if you sleep heavy you can get away with less. etc etc.
some people in my same region will sleep on nothing but a thinlight even through the shoulder months in the pnw. i carry around a foam and an inflatable pad because i roll around when i sleep even though i'm cold tolerant. depends a lot person to person. depends if you use a groundsheet. depends how warm your bag is. too many factors to say.
good way to find out is do a few nights out with your normal sleeping bag, then whatever you want to try out as a summer months alternative.
in the summer i often just sleep with a sheet quilt or sleeping bag liner or something like that. i like to roll around and have a breeze.
I have 3:
Carinthia defence 1 (bought for 115eu/120usd) but it shot up like 25% in price since and def not worth it imo at a price of 160eu
Chinese down sleeping bag for cold weather: it works great doesn't really have a recognised brand and was only 60eu.
Chinese polyester for warm weather 20eu, its just light compressible and works for warmer weather's.
I like the defence 1 the most cause its most breathable and also has the widest range of temperatures it works well in. Also its polyester but feels nice on skin so no need for a liner
I'm in the market for a bag, but mummy bags don't work for me as I sleep on my side/ stomach with one leg sticking way out, so I'm leaning more toward a rectangular bag. I remember an anon saying a while back they really liked the sierra designs backcountry bed and that they were a side sleeper but I've also been looking into the zenbivy as it's roughly the same thing just more modular from just looking at it.
Any thoughts or input from frens that have used either?
is it better to spend more on sleeping bag and less on tent or vice versa?
Really I wouldn't skimp out on either, if either fails on you in the backcountry it could spell the end of a trip prematurely. Though really it depends on what camping you're doing, car camping you can probably cheap out on a tent but might want to invest in a more cushy sleep system.
how can these things fail they're passive objects
>tent collapses
now it's a bivy
both are important but if i had to choose, sleeping bag.
its worth it to consider: used tents are fine, and can save you a lot of money. used sleeping bags are kinda gross.
"all you need" is a cold weather and a warm weather sleeping bag, and sleeping bags are cheaper than any alternatives especially second hand. but its definitely a nice luxury to have an "even less" option for summer.
exact temp ratings to go for with all this depends where you are and how you sleep.
Is snugpak a good brand? Or is there a better brand out there? Saw it mentioned earlier in the thread. I want a sleeping bag that I can connect with another so I can snuggle cute androgynous femboys.
Total newbie here.
It's a respectable brand, but they also have cheap chink shit. Unless you want to climb the Mont Blanc their stuff will be ok.
I have one, it's a bit small (bought the regular one, am 185cm) and still to hot in the summer. I will sell it probably.
My sleeping pad is a Thermarest Neo Xlite with a sheet so i don't stick to it at night.
In the summer i use a cheap Miltec poncho liner as a blanket. If it gets colder, say below 10°C, i use a Vaude Alpstein 450 quilt. If it gets below 0°C i combine it with the poncho liner.
Just need something that will keep me, and a snuggle-bunny, alive in Scandinavian/Nordic climate when the Russian invasion comes.
But preferably good quality so it will last me. Don't mind spending a lot now if it will last me for years/lifetime.
I have enlightened equipment quilts for three seasons use, one single person and one two person for when my gf comes with me.
For winter I have a feathered friends mummy.
I ordered one of these 'Black Snow' chinese down sleeping bags off aliexpress for $90. Total weight is 1150g. Reported comfort temperature rating of 40°F, limit of 32°. Comes with a compression sack, dont know how small it can be packed down. Wont get here until end of July, Ill report back when I have it on hand