they do because you can kick and mortar the charging handle, the alaska state troopers wanted to adopt galils in the 80's but ended up getting free AR's
Depends how far back it it sticks, all the way back I don't think so, but the bolt has lots of notches along its length that can be hit by the FA, so if it gets within tapping range, it can be tapped.
I mean, if it's ice we're talking about wouldn't either work as well? If you're breaking some thin layer of frozen moisture, once the blockage is broken by ratchet and racking, wouldn't it just go free? And if it was such a significant blockage literally forcing the bolt forward through it didn't break it, would pulling the charging handle back a half and inch and let it go forward do anything?
I think Canadians were shooting the FN C1A1 (L1A1) in the high arctic in the 60's and 70's but dunno if they had difficulties and doubtful they were doing it in -48C (-55F) temps.
Coldest I ever went out shooting was -20C (-4F) in Alberta with an Hk-91. No problems at all that
I recall, and that was over 30 yrs ago.
Why is it? I know I'm seeming like an ass but I legit have been fascinated by the claims of the Canadian AR that is better for cold temps, but every fricking time I google it I get like, no example whatsoever of a functional design change besides the trigger guard thing for mittens that makes it better than a bone stock AR.
Fiberlite nylon-reinforced polymer, it can be CBRN decontaminated and is good to -68C, don't ask me why, I'm not a material scientist, as well the stock has a pebble texture so the soldiers cheek doesn't freeze to it.
Read the Alaska state trooper reports & check out comments section on the Garand Thumb cold weather YouTube. Short version is that dry AKs seem to be the way to go for semi-automatic but where it is extremely cold, less sophisticated mechanisms are required.
probably some eastern front memoirs talk about what to do in winter to keep your gun firing
Just keep firing so it stays warm
>happiness is a warm barrel!
Unironically I've heard AKs do better than ARs from Alaskans.
they do because you can kick and mortar the charging handle, the alaska state troopers wanted to adopt galils in the 80's but ended up getting free AR's
is the forward assist in the AR able to force the bolt forward if its sticking in the back of the receiver from the low temps?
Depends how far back it it sticks, all the way back I don't think so, but the bolt has lots of notches along its length that can be hit by the FA, so if it gets within tapping range, it can be tapped.
>hit the charging handle one or two times
vs
>ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet ratchet
I mean, if it's ice we're talking about wouldn't either work as well? If you're breaking some thin layer of frozen moisture, once the blockage is broken by ratchet and racking, wouldn't it just go free? And if it was such a significant blockage literally forcing the bolt forward through it didn't break it, would pulling the charging handle back a half and inch and let it go forward do anything?
Unironically I've heard ARs do better than AKs from Alaskans.
I think Canadians were shooting the FN C1A1 (L1A1) in the high arctic in the 60's and 70's but dunno if they had difficulties and doubtful they were doing it in -48C (-55F) temps.
Coldest I ever went out shooting was -20C (-4F) in Alberta with an Hk-91. No problems at all that
I recall, and that was over 30 yrs ago.
I imagine the big issue isn't the cold, it's if your rifle gets wet and THEN cold.
C7 is good to -68C, and it has a trigger guard that flips down so you can shoot with big mits on.
Why is it good to those temps?
Well it's plastic furniture is, and that's the weakest part, other plastics will break at those temps.
Why is it? I know I'm seeming like an ass but I legit have been fascinated by the claims of the Canadian AR that is better for cold temps, but every fricking time I google it I get like, no example whatsoever of a functional design change besides the trigger guard thing for mittens that makes it better than a bone stock AR.
Fiberlite nylon-reinforced polymer, it can be CBRN decontaminated and is good to -68C, don't ask me why, I'm not a material scientist, as well the stock has a pebble texture so the soldiers cheek doesn't freeze to it.
Just knit your FAL a toque and a sweater it’ll be ok
Sirius Patrol uses M1917 Enfields and Glock 20s, so those are both safe bets.
Short stroke pistons, had a DI AR combust during winter larping
Read the rifle testing done by Alaska State Troopers.
TL;DR Galil wins
>AR locks up
>AK does okay
>G3 has charging handle break off
Project farm did a test of -40 and hopes clp, breakfast clp and slip2000 didn't freeze.
Take that as you will.
Mosin, P17
Dry ass AK
This.
For all the mud test memes, AKs are fantastic cold weather weapons, which makes sense because they come from a cold weather country.
Read the Alaska state trooper reports & check out comments section on the Garand Thumb cold weather YouTube. Short version is that dry AKs seem to be the way to go for semi-automatic but where it is extremely cold, less sophisticated mechanisms are required.
They still ended up using the AR15
M1917
Secret Arctic Coom is extremly thin at all temps
Anything Finland is using like RK 95