What is your opinion of the FrankenSAM weapons system?

It's basically a Ukrainian hybrid of Western and Soviet tech. I'm curious.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Uncle UkropSam

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it just Soviet SAM on western chassis or does it use western radar?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't be surprised they incorporated Western radar.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Other way round, Soviet radars with western SAM's. Ukraine is damn near out of Soviet AA stocks, hence why mothballed AIM-9's are being jerry rigged to BUK's.
      Absolutely insane to take in the fact that within 2 years, all those Soviet stocks were near gone.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No sense in wasting a perfectly good launcher system.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Other way round, Soviet radars with western SAM's.
        Yeah, and this is potentially much better too. It's worth noting as an anon in another thread pointed out that at least some models of the PAC-2 (GEM+ probably) have effectively a ghetto anti-radiation mode, where you can tell them once they reach an area to then target whatever is transmitting the most. Dunno what the original idea for that was or if it was just basically a freebie (they have sensors anyway) for tactical flexibility, but it's conceivable that one of those could get lobbed into an area with an AWACS and find the thing itself. Over an ocean in open sky the AWACS would easily be the strongest transmitter for a very great distance. Intelligent operators might see it coming and go dark, but
        >russians

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It should throw the Russians a curveball. Their defenses are designed to fight Western systems, not hybrids.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not even AIM-9's, they're duct-taping Sea Sparrows to them.
        Just goes to show how moronic Jihadi Julian and NYT journos quoting him are.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Radar is essentially a big lens or loudspeaker. Just like you can hook a digital camera to old lens, you just hook an SDR with proper code to power amplifier and it will perform the same function. Specs like bandwidth, scan angles, noise floor, beam width will be different, but besides some super exotic modes it can all be taken into account.

      Maybe you won't pinoint kinzhals with 360 degree view, but can do the same patriot radar can if you look at god damn airliner within 90 degree window.

    • 2 months ago
      äää

      I wouldn't be surprised they incorporated Western radar.

      usually the other way around. a point not yet mentioned itt unless i'm blind, in addition to what

      Other way round, Soviet radars with western SAM's. Ukraine is damn near out of Soviet AA stocks, hence why mothballed AIM-9's are being jerry rigged to BUK's.
      Absolutely insane to take in the fact that within 2 years, all those Soviet stocks were near gone.

      mentioned: soviet mobile radars are comparatively compact and attritable. up against a soviet adversary, old disused slavshit boxes are good enough. and you can afford to lose them on a scale you can't afford to lose western radars.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This makes sense, use Russian radars near the front where they'll probably get hit and keep the western radars in the rear protecting power plants and cities.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Slavic techno sorcerers strike again

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The US is just testing radar spoofing EW, there is no FrankenSAM.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s pretty cool smekalka

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Without knowing what it actually is, you can't really say. If they managed to make a sparrow work as-is with the sa-11 illumination radar, it's fricking great. If they just took something like an aspide launcher with its associated illumination radar and bolted it to the back of an sa-11 launcher then it doesn't really do much other than leverage the existing sa-11 command equipment and search radars. This is still a plus, but it's not as big as it could be.

      That's a photoshop.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a great way of getting rid of ancient sea sparrows

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have yet to see any evidence these things exist, besides harm and storm shadows on modified su-24m

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