It has an economy 25% larger than Russia's, so it can afford everything they have and more if they really focused on it. If Mussolini 2.0 happened, could they become as feared as the Russkies?
What is stopping Italy from becoming a military superpower?
Africa. Carthage must be destroyed.
This, Italy was the only one to pacify Libya, and they must return.
Europe ends at the Sahel, and it won't be the frogs to enforce the line.
>If Mussolini 2.0 happened, could they become as feared as the Russkies?
I'm sure they could be just as feared as 2022 Russia is. Everyone knows Mussolini was a genius and Italy the greatest power of WW2.
to be fair Mussolini told Hitler time and time again he would not be ready until like 1945 and Italy had a fairly competent navy
To be fair Mussolini still got involved instead of just riding the war out like Franco. The fact he knew how shitty Italy was and still decided to declare war makes things even worse.
Italy would have been of better use acting as the occupying forces for Europe. They could probably handle policing civilians far better than warring and that would have freed up some Krauts.
>expecting micks to not ape out and rape/extort everything in sight
Franco didn't ride out the war, his country was wrecked by the civil war and was barely able to keep itself together.
I was thinking the same thing reading that. It's not that Franco was prudent, Spain was literally incapable of going to war in any meaningful capacity in the wake of their own civil war.
Italy gets dogged on, but considering its circumstances their military was not that bad during WW2, or at least their soldiers were not bad. Their soldiers were good fighters, their Air Force was decent, and their navy was also decent, but they had poor communication between branches and thus suffered when it came to combined arms tactics. They also had poor equipment, and bad leadership. Under the leadership of German officers they performed very well. The Italian Waffen SS was such an effective fighting force that Himmler allowed them to wear the SS runes on black like German SS soldiers and they were fully integrated into the SS.
Italy peaked in the 2nd century.
>captcha: VDVYNR
they cant get the trains to run on time
Italians are too busy enjoying wine, not paying debts, fixing their cars, and living to 90+ to worry about military strength
>afford everything they have
Turns out, that wasn't a lot
The only thing keeping Italy from imploding is the EU gibs they get.
Malta-Chan just a little hungry
It's full of old people
They don't have large USSR stockpiles to loot. Italy also has a fairly decent army, their navy in particular punches above Italy's weight.
What benefit would they get from military expansion? They're a major beneficiary of NATO, and they have a reasonable force. There is no credible threat to them in the foreseeable future and they aren't going to be founding any new colonies.
Their biggest threats are the stream of migrants and the Chinese internally trying to take over their industries.
They are ethnically divided, but they'll never tell you that.
"Italian" is a language with "dialects", and "Italian" are one people.
Checked, Italians aren't a race so to say, more so a civnat ideal in all honesty
it seems many don't know that Italy was a bunch of squabbling city states until like the 1860s
Italy is not a real nation in the sense that France or England are, and that is okay. It's just what they are. I think the status quo is best for them.
So were the germans until 1871 the latest. Did not stop them from consolidating into the dangerous behemoth it was until 1945.
Germans were one race that had shitty inheritance laws that caused repeated divisions until they decided to start re-consolidating.
Italy is a mish-mash of ethnic Latins, Greeks, and Celts, which became "Roman", then got an influx of Goths, and Germans, and Norman French, all of whom had their own areas of pronounced influence, occupation, and cultural impact. Germany by contrast was just full of the same Germans the whole time. Dis-united, but it wasn't like Italy where completely different cultures were rolling in and setting up societies that gradually mixed into the natives.
Ew no. There hasn't been any significant mixing. The majority of italians are ethnic Latin/Etruscan, while there are a few (Northern Italy) with Norman descent.
>So were the germans until 1871 the latest. Did not stop them from consolidating into the dangerous behemoth it was until 1945.
Interesting how unifying small states into larger countries lead to fascism. When France and Germany finally manage to turn EU into "United States of Europe", will it eventually become a fascist state as well?
Ethnically? Nothing like that. Dialects are not languages. The difference is like speaking Texan with a New Yorker.
>Dialects are not languages. The difference is like speaking Texan with a New Yorker.
definitely not true
>Ethnically? Nothing like that. Dialects are not languages. The difference is like speaking Texan with a New Yorker.
Texas and NY speak the same Modern English language that's mutually intelligible. Italians speaks dozens of languages that are NOT mutually intelligible, each with their own sub-dialects.
Although the government claims they are "dialects" they don't even belong to the same branch of Italic but separate parallel branches under the Italic family. Many of them are also non-Italic, with some of those in the north being in the same family as French.
Prior to the Late Modern Period, "Italians" themselves considered themselves different ethnic groups, and they'd been living under separate kingdoms and republics since the fall of the Western Roman Empire. Furthermore South Italy, North Italy and Sardinia have vastly different histories in terms of ethnic intermingling. The reason China, Italy and others can get away with claiming to be dialects is because there is no official definition between what constitutes a language vs a dialect. Basically it's whatever the government says it is.
You left out Phoenicians, who held territory in southern Spain, southern Italy, and coastal North Africa. Southern Italy has Semitic (Phoenicians, Arabs) and Amazigh (Berber) influence alongside Greek. Sardinians have the least amount of mixing with non-Italic latter arrivals (including Germanics and Celtics) and also have the most pre-Italic and pre-Indo-European ancestry (shares the most heritage with Basque).
But rather than ancient and medieval history, the main issue I was driving at is that modern Italians themselves speak different languages, have different history, and aren't a unified people outside of a fabricated ethnic identity.
>Ew no. There hasn't been any significant mixing. The majority of italians are ethnic Latin/Etruscan, while there are a few (Northern Italy) with Norman descent.
Imagine being this delusional.
>Italians speaks dozens of languages that are NOT mutually intelligible, each with their own sub-dialects.
Maybe 100 years ago this was the case, now no one really speaks the "pure" regional language, they speak Italian with a varying degree of regional inflections. This has also been the case in France, Spain, Germany and most other large European countries.
t. Actual Italian
>Maybe 100 years ago this was the case, now no one really speaks the "pure" regional language, they speak Italian with a varying degree of regional inflections. This has also been the case in France, Spain, Germany and most other large European countries.
While almost all Italians know how to speak Italian, the regional languages are very much alive.
>What is stopping Italy from becoming a military superpower?
Italian work ethic.
Well, I supposed that if Italy abandoned their goal of remaining a social democracy and said frick it to the welfare state, they could get absolutely overpowered in just 15-20 yrs.
Italians
Italians are what I consider to be some of the most apathetic people in the entire EU.
They live in their own world and have no interest in what’s going on beyond their city, let alone in Ukraine. I think if there were a revolution and change of government, the average Italian wouldn’t even notice or care.
I go to this little town in Italy in the mountains for vacations. There's a family friend from there so we got introduced.
Beautiful place, quite small.
We met a middle-aged man who had never gone more than one town over. He wasn't intellectually disabled or anything, he just didn't see the point. He had no interest in anything outside his village and what was on TV. A lot of other people had never been outside of the province. There was no reason why they couldn't drive an hour to the regional airport and go anywhere they wanted, they just didn't care.
Meds are built different to my neurotic wandering Germanic self.
Other Europeans go to Italy for holidays. Why would Italians want to go to the rest of Europe?
I do it, to escape from my fellow Italians
Terrone
Italian here: while I agree that the population here cares very little about foreign policy or geopolitical matters (unfortunately), I don't think your example is fitting at all: in every country in the world there are small isolated mountain/countryside town with people who haven't travelled more than 10km in their entire life
This! i mean there are people who would not move out of their homes in fricking Mariopul or Severodonetsk. Some people brains just malfunction.
well, they have beautiful country with great cuisine, hard to blame them
Italians have been phoning it in since the 2nd century or so.
Italy literally has like two or three aircraft carriers... but no aircraft to put them on. If they did, then NATO would have like 11 equipped aircraft carriers.
We have Harriers (being replaced by F-35s) and various Helos.
>as feared as the Russkies?
Who fears them? Vatnik internet center workers who has guns pointed behind ther head and mothers?
Holy frick I miss Italian food and wine
>What is stopping Italy from becoming a military superpower?
The Italians.
Probably the fact that they're spending the money they could spend on artillery and missiles on cyborg murder e-girls instead.
Frick yeah
Good pick but I was thinking of a different tanned murder e-girl.
Italians certenly punch above there wheight in the anime girl department
We love culture, afterall
Where does Italys money go?
Pensions, mostly.
Our population is mostly elderly people that live to 90+ and nobody is making kids anymore (kinda risky with the current salaries), the economy is going to implode in about 10-20 years if something doesn't change in the pension system (spoiler: it won't)
>What is stopping Italy from becoming a military superpower?
This frickers right here.
Also:
This post goes very hard
love from Italy
I hate Vecchiacci di merda so much is unreal
I'm a nurse, I love my job but the strength that I have to muster to just not inject air in some of this frickers's veins is beyond comprehension.
A lot of idiots hate how we spoil immigrants, but at least they try to be productive, old people on the other hand think they own everything and just suck resources for 20/30 years before finally passing away.
This post reminds me that I have to escape to the USA because I can and because if I stay in Italy old people will continue to suck my blood off and I will own almost nothing forever.
I don't know what is worse between Vecchiacci del cazzo che devono crepare il prima possibile, dio canaglia, and the absolute moronic amerimutts
se tutti i "vecchi" muoiono, chi ti racconterà le barzellette in bar?
Fanculo le barzellette, voglio non dover dare metà del mio stipendio al vecchio di merda seduto al bar tutto il giorno a non fare un cazzo.
the sorrows of helathy nation, amico
Enjoy being a slave to old fricks while smart italians with a useful degree flee to other countries.
Qualche 35enne che ha grossi defict mentali perché ha respirato troppo monossido di carbonio
Why USA ? stay in the civilized part of the planet, just not in Italy.
On what basis are you stating this assumption ?
>inb4 your name is Ciro
Yeah northern Europe is another option but the US is the best way to make a lot of money.
And to get shot, or your kids shot, or bakrupt for a broken finger.
It’s not that bad here you pastaBlack person. 99% of people don’t really worry about getting shot. Avoid nig no go zones and you’re fine. Medical expenses suck though, I don’t know how they compare to your system however.
>It’s not that bad here
Eh, I don't want to mix with a population that just doesn't care when their kids get shot, en mass.
>I don’t know how they compare to your system however.
We don't pay a cent and the waiting lists are not that bad, south of the country is kinda fricked up but that's normal.
>taxes
You guys pay more taxes than us, due to your huge military apparatus (that I love, but I would hate to pay for it) and your insurance system is a scam.
Of all boards you come here spouting this moronic shit, you subhuman terroneBlack person
Bro, you can love guns and have a working brain at the same time, you know that ?
>terrone
Again, I don't know on what basis are you stating this assumption, I probably live more North than you.
Also, lets post some guns.
One does not need to live in the south to have a terrone mentality, just saying. Implying that Americans do not care about school shootings because they do not want to implement “sensible gun laws” is just a moronic fart sniffing opinion.
>terrone mentality
You mean not having a monkey brain, wanting to be productive for society and not wanting to live in a police state ?
I guess I'm a terrone then ? didn't know that.
>just a moronic fart sniffing opinion.
I will take that as a compliment, coming from you, Ciro.
It’s absurd to say that people don’t care when children are shot. It’s very rare, fortunately, and removing firearms from the population (were it even possible) would not remedy the problem. Don’t be an ass
If you say so. I live on 30 acres out in the sticks (sorta), and it’s quite nice.
>It’s absurd to say that people don’t care when children are shot.
I don't see any rally for a change, even one time should be considered an irremediable and unforgivable national tragedy, and yet nothing seems to change, every year we hear of another American school used as a firing range by some incel.
>arm the Teachers
>teach kids how to hide
>put security guards on school
No those are not the solutions.
>Put more restrictions on gun ownership and have a periodic mental check on gun owners.
That's the solution.
>put more restrictions blah blah
Oh, gotcha. Why are you on this board lmao
my homie you live in a third world country
Shhhh, let mutts believe to live in The Most Free and Democratic Society on the Planet™
At least they have some beautiful guns.
Nig no go zones... such as? I need to know. Might move to the US.
America is still a Dreamland if you are a woman or gay immigrant. In particular if you are black. If you are white and male you are not going to enjoy it in particular if you go to a big city like most educated immigrants have to do.
Personally if i ever want to move to the US i will set up a company in south east Asia or Philippines making good quality bakelite magazines with Italian quality standards and pistol grips enjoying cheap labor and pussy while hopping in and out of the US for meeting distributors.
literally just stay out of certain parts of big cities and you'll be fine
bro, i'm so sorry you must be really strong to not have gone full postal on those moronic old fricks
Some of them are cute and kind, most of them (especially men) act like spoiled kids, and they are EVERYWHERE of about 40 patients in my department, only 2 are under 60
I've decided, once I hit 70, I will retire into a cabin in the woods, on a fricking mountain.
You do know that we have old people too, right?
American seniors are definitely getting more out of the system than they ever put into it.
Yeah, and that's good ?
I don't hate old people, I hate unproductive old fricks and our unbearable pension system.
Berceuse I love guns, I have a stable job and my IQ is higher that your.
I can't even imagine how idyllic Italy must be if pensions are the thing at the top of your shit list.
Well it's a great country and if you have Italian citizenship and family with american wages you get the best of both worlds.
From an Utopic point of view, striving to give your population the most enjoyable and long life possible, should be the first priority of every society.
>how idyllic Italy must be
It's not, for the most part, but as a politician, when more then half of your voters are old fricks, you tend to cater for them (and that's not an Italian thing, it's just how politics work).
Also, our fricking Christian morality forces us to cater for each individual, no matter the age, social status, race or, you know... PRODUCTIVITY, so we end up with and absence amount of money given to a lot (A LOT) of people that are no longer productive.
>loves guns, but doesn’t have any
>stable job, but makes little money
and best of all
>high IQ
>Italian
Pick one. Pretty sure Italy’s national IQ is lower than America’s, and that’s hilarious considering 13% of our population is borderline legally moronic. Anyway, goodnight pastaBlack person. I do love your motorcycles
That's not a gun, Ciro.
>pretty sure Italy’s national IQ is lower than America’s,
Pretty sure it's not, you jesus, flat earth, chemtrails, Aliens loving moron.
I posted a gun here
, all you’ve posted are pictures of ships. Also, pic related is Italy — right between Latvia and Vanuatu lmao
Fake info.
Unadulterated cope. Have another gun, you should at least be able to enjoy looking at them.
Source it homosexual.
Bro, that's per capita.
Italy pop: 60mil
US pop: I don't know, I don't care.
>you’ve posted are pictures of ships
Ships are good, shut your AR15 mouth and go pay for those sweet sweet overseas bases, so I can enjoy my peaceful Mediterranean life.
>IQ
>pro capita
Holy shit Italians really are moronic
>failed american education system right here.
Please explain how ‘per capita’ is a useful concept as regards IQ. I think may honestly be moronic
It's not my job to educate you.
But I will give you a hint, different size in populations mean a different outcomes in statistics.
Also this is not my fricking language, so I'm not going to stress myself into a huge dissertation on statistics and tests, read a book, pray jezaz or shoot a kid, I don't know.
Ah shit, meant to replay to this
Time to gtfo of this thread, eat some pasta and frick some US tourist b***hes
Estimation of Europeans is plummeting after reading this. Any Italians or Italian speakers care to explain to this moron how “per capita” is conceptually incongruous with national IQ in a language he speaks less poorly than English?
pic unrelated, just interesting factoid about IQ and credentials
Can't you do it ? my dear guBlack person ?
Lmao goodnight for real this time pastabro. This was fun
Lmao as an Italian this guy is one of the dumbest people I ever met online. Probably a closeted terroBlack person who skipped high school.
Se non ci arrivi pure te, mi sparo bro.
Se in una popolazione ci sono 300 milioni di individui dal QI di 97 ed in un'altra di 60mil il QI medio è 94 (anche se in entrambi i casi parliamo di QI molto bassi), nella popolazione più grande vuol dire che ci sono molti più idioti che abbassano la media, ci arrivi ora, idiota ?
Fra ma porcodio sei imbarazzante che cazzo dici diocane ovvio che nel valore nominale ci sono PIÙ idioti perché c'è più gente, ma la media) secondo quel dato statistico) è così e basta
It was! hope you survive next winter, my fellow amerifat.
perché essere lo schiavo quando puoi essere lo sterminatore?
IQ is not about trivia retention or education, silly.
Where did I suggest it was? Am I speaking to another Italian?
>Per capita IQ
This post reminds me of the time in high school when the Italian exchange student, who came from a wealthy family, indignantly revealed that he thought taxes were purely punitive and didn't understand that the government needs and uses the money collected. This guy was 19.
This proves that Italians are the most intelligent people in the world if anything. What's your shithole country that believes in taxes and the tooth fairy?
Also, not posting the full picture, typical american.
You guys have WAY MORE morons than us, with guns.
I will stay here, in the civilized part of the planet, thanks.
Now go get those kids.
>gets btfo on all relevant points
>Italians proven literally brain dead by suggesting national IQ is somehow “per capita”
>still no guns
It didn’t have to be this way Italybros, I genuinely like you. But we’ve definitely answered the OP’s question at this point. Here’s another gun to ease your pain
>gets btfo on all relevant points
Did jezuz told you that?
Yeah dawg Italy’s national IQ is lower than America’s contradicting your asshurt assertion and I posted guns, which you didn’t and can’t, so now you’re resorting to this weird copeposting about your caricatures of Americans.
US: 97.43 - pop too many
Italy: 94.23 - pop 60mil
Dude; I really really don't know what to say, can you please get it now ? please ? I'm going to cry (and then frick your mom)
You seem to be laboring under the delusion that the national IQ number is the sum of all the citizens’ IQs, instead of an average of the sum of their IQs. If the national IQ number were in fact the sum of all citizens’ IQs, then you would be correct, and the US would have a higher national IQ number as our population dwarfs yours. However, this is not the case. National IQ is the average of the sum of all citizens’ IQs.
This means, unfortunately, that you are moronic, and that your assertion that “per capita” is in any way relevant to what we’re talking about is incredibly stupid.
but we have guns, we just don't let children and mentally impaired people own them
Well it’s clear you’re mentally impaired, I understand now why you can’t post pics of a gun
Cherry picking iq data when other iq aggregates puts italy above most euro countries.
Dude, just stop, it's mutts, they must feel superior or their fragile ego will shatter in a million pieces
I just googled national IQ, I didn’t cherry pick anything. All sources I’ve seen put Italy lower, feel free to provide one that indicates otherwise.
You started this sperg, I just pointed out the national IQ gap which you first denied and then said was wrong because Italy has fewer people than America (lmao)
Most all of our big cities have places that it’s not smart to be hanging around in. Usually they’re easy to avoid.
>accuses me of cherry picking
>posts a source that corroborates mine
Lynn and Vanhanen, which provided the data that this map was made from, have the US higher than Italy as well. Thanks for broadening the sources which bolster my point.
is that so
Yes, it is so. The bottom of your picture cites Lynn and Vanhanen. This link:
https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php
has that data laid out. So now we have three sources corroborating my point. You’re frantically searching for something to back yours up (cherry-picking). Man you’re dumb
Italy IQ is 103 - 105
US IQ is 97-100 (without Black folk 101-102)
get hanged
> my IQ is higher that your
yeah bro totally, and that sentence is the proof
You don't have the most unsustainable pension system in the world and don't pay half your taxes to give free money to the old fricks.
>What is stopping Italy from becoming a military superpower?
Industrialization induced demographic collapse
>It's full of old people
this
the thing is that a lot countries are becoming too old, not only italy.
the only real solutions are either full blown automation or inmigrants, and neither are really savory for most people
There is a third option, just how do you think those immigrant nations have so many people to send?
With the economic situation, high levels of education and easy access to birth control methods in the developed world is quite hard to raise the fertility of the most people.
What makes the third world so fertile is the lack of familiar education and hard access to contraceptives.
With the exception of the economy, trying to change the other 2 points is political suicide
Right, educated people have fewer kids. Especially when a lot of your educated people are low income.
Although industrialization promotes culture rot, thinking that sterile EU-style decadence is inevitable and a given is a serious failure of imagination
i mean,its not about cultural rot, but about the question of "can i really have kids in the current situation of my country?"
with the looming recession and political landscape it's really hard to find reasons to make an aswer to that question to be yes.
The sexual revolution was mostly about that people wanting to be able to control if they wanted to have kids or not, as well for other questions.
so the thing is that yes, orgies do happen out there, the great but is that everyone is using contraceptives.
>i mean,its not about cultural rot, but about the question of "can i really have kids in the current situation of my country?"
Birthrates have declined and remained persistently low in industrialized countries during period of economic optimism. You think the birthrate in Japan is low because the outlook is bleak? Or is the outlook of individuals bleak because they're living in massively angst-promoting ennui because their culture has rotted through to its core, and they don't have and can't imagine having anything to die for?
Let's be honest. I just don't want to have kids because they suck and are a big responsibility. I don't want such an hurdle in my life.
I'm not the only one thinking like this and you know it.
You're correct, hence
>Cultural rot
You can call it however you want but here we are.
thats were that question comes from,in japan is a island nation that needs to import most of it's food and other materials and in exchange exports specialized commodities like electronics or cars.
If feeding yourself is already expensive imagine how hard is to feed 2.1 babies. The cultural landscape just makes it harder but the primary reason is economic.
The answer varies from country to country. In the west you can choose to have kids or not,depending on your situation. In poor countries you cant.
>t. 15 year old honors student with an absolutely decrepit, simplistic understanding of historical trends
>the primary reason is economic
This obviously doesn't explain why birth rates remain low in industrialized countries when economic prospects are promising
You seem to be aware at some level of the actual issue:
>In the west you can choose to have kids or not,depending on your situation.
It's that, due to a variety of factors, people are choosing not to have children, even when it behooves them to do so—even when someone with the same economic means in a different era and culture would have done so gladly. Wealthy, faithfully religious families, now and historically, are fecund. Secular rich and secular poor are sterile because they are not tied in any way to eternity. Post-industrial man, homosexual economicus, has only a stomach and no soul. Nothing ties him to eternity, so he has no incentive to have children, or to have courage, or to create great art. Look around.
so for you is mostly religious and moral reasons that explain the current low fertility rates in the developed world? How so?
if that was the case then countries like spain or italy, who are more religious than most in europe, shouldnt have falling fertility rates because of their faith or moral, but they do anyway.
the current fall of the fertility rates is a global fenomenon that cant just be explained just for lack of faith or purposse, i can see how it could affect it but i dont think its the great sole reason for it.
For example i'm not deeply religious but i still want kids in the future.if just i wasnt so introvert and so focused in my studies then i think i would have.
Is still a good point though, i just want you to go deeper on it.
You're telling me there's a generation of Europeans that don't want to have wild, unprotected sex? You're telling me it's impossible to start another hippie revolution where a generation rejects the status quo for weed, naturalism, and free love? You want me to believe it's impossible for kids today to be made so angry at the system they completely disconnect from it and start their own show? All I'm saying is, what was so different in 68 that those ideas can't work in 22? Seems like all we need is just an institutional shove and you'll have zoomer Woodstock in no time
Yeah bro, the sexual revolution really pushed the birth rate up right? Promiscuity really makes people want to start families, doesn't it?
This is the most backwards baffling understanding of the last 100 years I've seen on this website, I hope you're at least 45
Something the left will never admit, but feminism and sexual revolution are *products* of capitalism and industrialization. Without it, they cease to exist and return to a state of natural gender roles, because feminism and gynocentrism rely on the state ensuring their rights and privileges.
Industry also wants women to enter the workforce, which results in keeping wages down by increasing competition. This in turn however results in low population growth, but more noticeably leads to the destruction of the extended family unit, and then eventually even the nuclear family unit. There's a lot of focus on nuclear families nowadays but it is merely the transition point between the extended family and having no traditional family at all.
Public Healthcare and pensions.
Italy is the second country for longest life expectancy after Japan and has both public pension system and public healthcare and public schools.
All 3 of which are insanely expensive.
Also Italy is notoriously not very efficient with public spending. Procurement contracts for anything public look like american military contracts tier rip offs.
Same thing stopping the rest of the west from being considered a global superpower. Its borders are stable and no one's interested in expanding them. Thus it subscribes to the current world order of Pax Americana and feels secure enough to field only a token defensive force and focus the vast majority of its resources on other things. If Italy ever decided to become more ambitious it could reorient itself toward military projection, but why tho?
Italians
whole of russhitia were without much of actual nogs presence though
Italy? That Eastern European country that isn't even east of Europe.
Good one OP
... Now I'm wondering if there are /k/-related spaghetti movies
>What is stopping Italy from becoming a military superpower?
Shitalians.
fricking die
It's poorly run, and money is worth a lot less in the West
Work ethic stops them.
Why must Yuros be so self-centered and shit up every place they go?
>Mutt mutt mutt mutt
I'm not American.
>S-shitskin!
Cope. We're replacing you for the better and there's nothing you can do about it.
>It has an economy 25% larger than Russia's
That 25% goes to the Mafia
Whew good thing Russia doesn't have a mafia then!!!
!!!!!
Internal division, just like Spain.
italians lmao
drink bleach you piece of shit
Hello Gianluigi, how's unemployment. Still larping as a Roman?
Fitting, most mutts have Italian blood.
>most mutts have Italian blood.
literally bullshit unless you're in ny/new jersey
Keep coping
midwest is german/nordic
This is total horse shit but Sicily was.
Sicily wasn't any more Black personfied than it was Norman'd
I'll repeat that again. There wasn't enough mixing to "contaminate" the people there. It's still ethnic italian.
>Mussolini 2.0
You mean his granddaughter? Who literally made her HUSBAND and her KIDS take HER last name in order to keep the Mussolini name alive?
She got literally dabbed on national TV
Piedmont-Sardinia isn't Italy, anon.
If Mussolini 2.0 happened Italy would gradually turn into a pariah within NATO and the EU.
>If Mussolini 2.0 happened Italy would gradually turn into a pariah within NATO and the EU.
Maybe they would have fixed the bugs with Mussolini 1.0 and integrated a Franco and they could invade Russia and China and Best Korea and colonise the congo and North Africa, Iran Eitheopia and Somalia and then sit laughing at everyone else and refuse to trade with them unless they use the address your Italian Masterfullness. You know you want them to Really
>the bottom half was Black personfied sometime after the romans
This
>What is stopping Italy from becoming a military superpower?
Italians.
>It has an economy 25% larger than Russia's,
I dont believe this is correct. Must be a lot of money changing hands for nothing
>It has an economy 25% larger than Russia's
This is your brain on abstracted numerical GDP cope that overvalues stuff that people could frankly do without like Gucci/Prada overpriced hypebeast clothing and Lamborghini/Ferrari cars, and undervalues raw materials such as minerals/energy resources that virtually all nations need to run their economies at all.
no need to be so wound up, misha
>hat is stopping Italy from becoming a military superpower?
Italy mostly. And having a brain, playing super power is for real super powers and for idiot countries that have absolutely nothing else to show for.
I just wished our nuclear programme didn’t get 404d
>what's stopping Italy from becoming a military superpower?
commies and demoralized nimbys
Why would Italy want to be a military superpower?
why are these two morons talking about iq
what stopped them in WW1 and 2?
shitty soldiers because of shit DNA
not really, it was shitty commanders like luigi cadorna that fricked the italian army. Under decent to good commanders like rommel or giovanni messe they could perform really well, even with shitty carcanos and carro veloce's
how would you fix the demographic problem bros?
>close border
>raise wages through collective bargaining
>keep abortion illegal or difficult to find
>have a tax credit thats similar to how our tax system works now; poor, broke idiots get 0 tax benefits, people who make over 50k a year get x amount in tax credits for kid 1, the same for 2, and diminishing (but still there) for each kid above that.
stop giving terroni free gibs, cut moronic expenses, raise wages, stop hypertaxating young couples
abortion is a non issue since we have one of the lowest rates in the world
should've prefaced i'm american
preface not needed
If japan hasn't figured it out, there is no way
At least until artificial wombs become viable
>thread on italy
>fricking amerimutt mentions race in the first post
die of cancer homosexual
>everyone who makes fun of my country is american
go outside
no, but only morons (typically americans) think sicilians have Black person dna because they get information from a hollywood movie.
then why are all the southern italians ugly and brown and loud and aggressive
the amount of stupidity in your posts make it's obvious you're american and it's funny how you don't want to admit it.
>why are southern italians ugly
ok i'm done. this is getting way too delusional.
kys
>Prince Harry
>High tier
How's that going?
They can't even sort out trash collection.
What is stoping Italy from Coming a superpower?
Answer: Italy.