>ammo available everywhere, be it shitholes with dirt roads or fancy euro countries with casinos >compact and snag-free >thin as to not print in a tux >threaded barrels available, if not suppressor ready from the factory >mag capacity not a major concern
Probably some 9mm. I dont want to say a glock 42 but a glock 42 is probably the answer.
It was explained in the books that Bond prefered a 25acp pistol. Stopping power didn't matter for him, since he uses his CCW for assassinations and in combat he goes for headshots.
Short version, stolen duty gun.
Treat a cluster frick security detail like a free armoury. The second you fire it communication breaks down as they can't establish whether it's an inside job, a workplace incident or an outside attack. Maybe it was an ND nobody wants to own up to. Then afterwards they've still got to work out if the president has your bullet on his head, or if you simply fired to make a distraction and the shooter was actually an inside man. Get down Mr President.
It's about subterfuge not stealth.
There are a range of internally suppressed weapons ranging from silenced guns in subsonic loadings, through jnternally ported barrels and welrod type pistols, through to captive piston pistols like the Russian third generation pss. Yes there is a third generation, they look like normal pistols now and can fire regular ammo. Which only adds to the Mr President factor.
On the other end are high velocity high SD rounds in machine pistols. Win a phone booth fight against someone wearing level 3 body armour.
Unironically, the USP. The problem with it IRL is that any situation that called for it, you'd just take a rifle instead, but if your job description is the James Bond/John Wick/Solid Snake bullshit of "solo clandestine room-clearing", then double-stack suppressed .45 is about the best way of going about it.
>.45
Why would anyone choose .45 for anything? If suppression is your concern, just use 147gr 9mm. .45 doesn’t do ANYTHING better than 9mm or any other pistol caliber.
>instead of needing any specific ammo
Then buy the specific ammo. Are you moronic? 147gr is not rare. You would miss out on all the advantages 9mm has over .45 because you’re too fricking lazy to buy the right ammo for suppression? This thread is about what a spy would use, I would hope James Bond isn’t so fricking moronic that he can’t source ammo.
subsonic 9 is more quiet when suppressed than 45, and while 45 is subsonic by default and 9mm is not, it would not be outside the range of possibility for a secret agent to carry subsonic 9mm ammo
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>More quiet
Maybe by a decibel and that doesn't change the fact that there's quiet 45 loads as well lol
>9 isn't the same as 45
Correct, it’s better than .45. In every single measurable aspect.
Cope harder, you expand to what 45 defaults at while also naturally being subsonic.
The suppressor aperture for a 45 acp suppressor is 1.6 times larger than for 9mm which results in more gas escaping the suppressor making more noise
Gas escaping doesn't translate noise, it's HOW the gas escapes. 45 cans have no issue releasing gas.
Look I know you fellas cucked out and bought yourself a 9 and while 9mm is good I think you're a special kind of moron to think .45 isn't the suppressed champion of handgun cartridges. >Inb4 nuh uh! 9 is quieter! >Literally just use a faster burning powder for handloads or buy suppressor loads or don't minmaxgay and just drop in ANY .45 ammo in.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>It's how the gas escapes
Um, yeah. The gas that comes out the front through the aperture behind the bullet is the kind that makes the noise
5 months ago
Anonymous
your whole point is that 45 is subsonic by default and doesnt need special ammo to be suppressed effectively, if you need 'quiet 45 loads' to beat out 9mm than its a moot point
>Gas escaping doesn't translate noise, it's HOW the gas escapes
You are moronic anon. Do you understand how a suppressor works? gas expands through the suppressor, some of the gas expands into the volume around the baffles, which creates turbulence and back pressure that impedes flow. The larger the bore of the suppressor, the more gas travels straight through the center of the baffles unimpeded. A smaller cartridge is inherently more effective in a suppressor because more gas is impeded by the baffles
5 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't read your post but this is exactly what my butthole looks like after a 10 pack of taco bell and 7 beers
5 months ago
Anonymous
sorry to hear that anon. Please improve your diet, we're worried about you
5 months ago
Anonymous
>10 pack of taco bell and 7 beers
Based
sorry to hear that anon. Please improve your diet, we're worried about you
in book bond carries a beretta 418 (.25) and a 1911 before being ordered to swap to the ppk in .32 and a S&W .38 revolver.
the ppk was never supposed to be an amazing weapon to take into battle, the revolver was meant for any "precision" shooting and, as he is more of a detective than an action hero (or even assassin) in the books, he is explicitly not supposed to be going into big gunfights
the ppk is picked for: >draw speed (this more than anything, the whole reason he gets a new gun is an injury he gets when his beretta snags) >higher caliber >ease of concealment >universality of .32 ammo
but in the end his ppk is meant to be a small, split-second tool to get out of a bad situation, NOT the best and biggest gun anyone could get their hands on.
a sig or glock is probably a good answer, it's worth noting too the ppk wasn't considered the ultra-fancy superspy gun it is now and is/was a pretty pragmatic police sidearm, albeit a very sexy one.
>should have curves like a woman >fires something small caliber because sekrit agent superspies have Shot Placement but always seem to need to shoot like 40 people in a row >comes in black >can fit various attachments, none that matter except a silencer >cheap, reflective of his being a government agent getting shit done on a shoestring budget (all the year's budget went to his modified hypercar) >needs to be small enough and have the right construction to get through security
so unironically a hi-point
None
The one he has with him.
Reason: It's the one he has with him.
>ammo available everywhere, be it shitholes with dirt roads or fancy euro countries with casinos
>compact and snag-free
>thin as to not print in a tux
>threaded barrels available, if not suppressor ready from the factory
>mag capacity not a major concern
Probably some 9mm. I dont want to say a glock 42 but a glock 42 is probably the answer.
this is the right train of thought but the answer is glock48
It was explained in the books that Bond prefered a 25acp pistol. Stopping power didn't matter for him, since he uses his CCW for assassinations and in combat he goes for headshots.
Then he would be using a 5.7 or .22TCM now,because of the better ballistics.
Chambered in all of what, 4 guns and 1?
Short version, stolen duty gun.
Treat a cluster frick security detail like a free armoury. The second you fire it communication breaks down as they can't establish whether it's an inside job, a workplace incident or an outside attack. Maybe it was an ND nobody wants to own up to. Then afterwards they've still got to work out if the president has your bullet on his head, or if you simply fired to make a distraction and the shooter was actually an inside man. Get down Mr President.
It's about subterfuge not stealth.
There are a range of internally suppressed weapons ranging from silenced guns in subsonic loadings, through jnternally ported barrels and welrod type pistols, through to captive piston pistols like the Russian third generation pss. Yes there is a third generation, they look like normal pistols now and can fire regular ammo. Which only adds to the Mr President factor.
On the other end are high velocity high SD rounds in machine pistols. Win a phone booth fight against someone wearing level 3 body armour.
Unironically, the USP. The problem with it IRL is that any situation that called for it, you'd just take a rifle instead, but if your job description is the James Bond/John Wick/Solid Snake bullshit of "solo clandestine room-clearing", then double-stack suppressed .45 is about the best way of going about it.
I think you are confusing the USP with the MK23
Probably. The Offensive Handgun program in general, I guess.
USP is just a more compact MK23, better trigger too.
>.45
Why would anyone choose .45 for anything? If suppression is your concern, just use 147gr 9mm. .45 doesn’t do ANYTHING better than 9mm or any other pistol caliber.
.40 is the superior pistol caliber
.40 is for women. 10mm is king
because .45 is naturally subsonic instead of needing any specific ammo. that’s why subsonic rounds are developed
147gr 9mm is also naturally subsonic and twice as quiet as 45.
>instead of needing any specific ammo
Then buy the specific ammo. Are you moronic? 147gr is not rare. You would miss out on all the advantages 9mm has over .45 because you’re too fricking lazy to buy the right ammo for suppression? This thread is about what a spy would use, I would hope James Bond isn’t so fricking moronic that he can’t source ammo.
.45 I'd better for suppression you coping 9gay.
9 isn't the same as 45 and you're a moronic limpwristed noguns who's talking completely out of their ass like a troony.
FNX45 for big boy work, Walther P99 or suppressed berrrtta for compact smol boy work.
subsonic 9 is more quiet when suppressed than 45, and while 45 is subsonic by default and 9mm is not, it would not be outside the range of possibility for a secret agent to carry subsonic 9mm ammo
>More quiet
Maybe by a decibel and that doesn't change the fact that there's quiet 45 loads as well lol
Cope harder, you expand to what 45 defaults at while also naturally being subsonic.
Gas escaping doesn't translate noise, it's HOW the gas escapes. 45 cans have no issue releasing gas.
Look I know you fellas cucked out and bought yourself a 9 and while 9mm is good I think you're a special kind of moron to think .45 isn't the suppressed champion of handgun cartridges.
>Inb4 nuh uh! 9 is quieter!
>Literally just use a faster burning powder for handloads or buy suppressor loads or don't minmaxgay and just drop in ANY .45 ammo in.
>It's how the gas escapes
Um, yeah. The gas that comes out the front through the aperture behind the bullet is the kind that makes the noise
your whole point is that 45 is subsonic by default and doesnt need special ammo to be suppressed effectively, if you need 'quiet 45 loads' to beat out 9mm than its a moot point
>Gas escaping doesn't translate noise, it's HOW the gas escapes
You are moronic anon. Do you understand how a suppressor works? gas expands through the suppressor, some of the gas expands into the volume around the baffles, which creates turbulence and back pressure that impedes flow. The larger the bore of the suppressor, the more gas travels straight through the center of the baffles unimpeded. A smaller cartridge is inherently more effective in a suppressor because more gas is impeded by the baffles
I didn't read your post but this is exactly what my butthole looks like after a 10 pack of taco bell and 7 beers
sorry to hear that anon. Please improve your diet, we're worried about you
>10 pack of taco bell and 7 beers
Based
Low test
>9 isn't the same as 45
Correct, it’s better than .45. In every single measurable aspect.
The suppressor aperture for a 45 acp suppressor is 1.6 times larger than for 9mm which results in more gas escaping the suppressor making more noise
I wish I bought a surplus model 71 when they were on sweaty ben's. I have a 21a but its just not the same.
I've done live tissue training with 9mm and .45 ball. You literally can't distinguish the wound tracks.
Browning Hi Power, as befits a Cold War agent on Her Majesty's Secret Service
What u need is not a gun but a different kind of weapon.... Something you find in your... Pantry
Translation: fat women are hot and I agree with you.
Is obesity a weapon?
waltha peipeeiahiy
P99.
I like fat women and nothing you can do will stop me
What does this mean? Spy sandwiched?
bond burger
in book bond carries a beretta 418 (.25) and a 1911 before being ordered to swap to the ppk in .32 and a S&W .38 revolver.
the ppk was never supposed to be an amazing weapon to take into battle, the revolver was meant for any "precision" shooting and, as he is more of a detective than an action hero (or even assassin) in the books, he is explicitly not supposed to be going into big gunfights
the ppk is picked for:
>draw speed (this more than anything, the whole reason he gets a new gun is an injury he gets when his beretta snags)
>higher caliber
>ease of concealment
>universality of .32 ammo
but in the end his ppk is meant to be a small, split-second tool to get out of a bad situation, NOT the best and biggest gun anyone could get their hands on.
a sig or glock is probably a good answer, it's worth noting too the ppk wasn't considered the ultra-fancy superspy gun it is now and is/was a pretty pragmatic police sidearm, albeit a very sexy one.
Gold gun b/c it instakills in 1 shot.
1997 was 40 years ago
.22 LR pistol with a oil filter suppressor
t. James bail Bond
Webley MkIV in .455 nicknamed 'The Wogstopper' by Bond
Bond Bullpup. It literally has his name on the slide and it's a bullpup, and James Bond is British, and Britbongs love bullpups.
A suppressed .22 Beretta
>should have curves like a woman
>fires something small caliber because sekrit agent superspies have Shot Placement but always seem to need to shoot like 40 people in a row
>comes in black
>can fit various attachments, none that matter except a silencer
>cheap, reflective of his being a government agent getting shit done on a shoestring budget (all the year's budget went to his modified hypercar)
>needs to be small enough and have the right construction to get through security
so unironically a hi-point