What is happening with Ukr Military? It's been 3 months, I see no mass conscription, mass expansion of armed forces, mass inflow of heavy artillery, tanks, anti air and aircraft. It seems they are staying on similar manpower size of light infantry and drones, plus some token armor, anti air and air assets.
Ukr needs to be seriously ramped up in order to kick Vatniks out. Am I not seeing the change or is it actually not happening? It all looks more and more like Iraq-Iran in 80'.
If you haven't been seeing those things it's because you rely on mass media to spoonfeed you. Literally all of those things have happened and continue to happen, save for fixed wing aircraft because it takes a fricking long time to get crews proficient.
It's there, but gradual. Believe it or not, but to train and arm a hundred thousand men, let alone a million, is still hard as a good shit even if they have some prior conscription service.
Not to mention that, despite Oryx's lists and NATO aid, Ukraine's still very much a light infrantry force in dire need of mechanization, especially for these new units.
>Ukraine's still very much a light infrantry force
You what? Ukrainian armed forces are made up primarily of mechanized, tank and (rocket) artillery formations, with other specialty units (mountaineers, marines, air assault, etc) being mechanized/motorized as well.
Two third world countries are slugging it out and doing third world shit. It's about to become a boring stalemate for years.
Russians dying is never boring anon
>Why no, I have never seen Dr. Zhivago.
The post.
You have but didn't notice because the Ukrainian armed forces have probably sucked up and replaced like 50 000 casualties and rotating and reforming units that suffered 30%+ casualties means you might have only lost 3000 but you've got 10000 off the line to refit. While at the same time sorting out as much of their rear area details in security, intelligence, infrastructure repair/civilian aid, and logistics as much as possible. On top of this they are sending large numbers of men out of country to train
on the arriving NATO equipment in places like Poland or Slovakia. All told that has likely eaten up the two to three hundred thousand men that have been trained, so that Ukraine appears to have about as many soldiers now as when they started, but they have a far more secure and robust rear area, trained NATO equipped units are starting to trickle in and deploy, and there isn't a point in flooding an area with light infantry when you're artillery ratio is 1:10.
Give them the few months they need, and we'll see what they're offensive in September does.
.. also what happend to all the switchblade drones?
There's a couple of videos of them in use, but they largely seem to have been relegated to actual recon use instead of blowing up a perfectly good flying camera. This makes more sense when you remember that the US was able to provide near omniscient real time intelligence without flying across the Polish border in the nothern front. It's also worth noting that the northern front collapsed, and the front that we can't provide 24/7 omniscience is now a slow moving slugfest.
I won't be shocked though if the Ukrainians are holding onto them all the same.
What do you mean, what happened to them?
Swichblades turned out to be jamm-able by ruskies and the 300 warhead is too weak.
meme drone only useful against enemies who can't shoot back since you have no way to confirm if you hit and disabled your target
The Ukrainians made a few Tiktoks with them like they were asked, as usual with the donated weapons systems.
Otherwise it turned out to be not very effective.
No, moron. They are more valuable for recon than they are blowing up at the moment. They're difficult to see or detect but offer a damned good imaging suite.
Probably not usefull as long your army doesnt have a direct fight. At the moment it is just Russian artillery shooting houses than the soldiers move into the rubbles. While Ukrainians retreat.
Utterly mogged by the Warmate.
ended up being used as recon drones first and foremost due to them being recoverable and rechargeable
ask these gentlemen
>I see no mass conscription, mass expansion of armed forces, mass inflow of heavy artillery, tanks, anti air and aircraft.
All of those things are happening, but they are only compensating for the 200-1000 casualties per day they are suffering.
Ukraine is just good at showing russian casualties while not advertising their own. Most russian artillery and airstrikes use cameras straight from 1980ties to confirm kills, so they are reluctant to "advertise" too.
>Not advancing
>Still quoting false figures
They advanced pretty well in the North and are advancing all along the southern front.
>advancing all along the southern front.
where?
Every day 1-2 villages gets liberated in the kherson region. Melitopol just got smashed to bits, military bases, trains derailed and ammo depos blown up
Literally everywhere except the 20km stretch between popasna and severodonetsk. Guess which part of the line the vatniks are focused on?
In March, the Russians were besieging Mykolaiv.
Now the Ukrainians are 10kms from Kherson and have the ability to destroy the bridge and dam if they feel it necessary.
They should just blow them up anyway. It's not like Russia wont do the same once they retreat from the west bank of the Dnipro - scorched earth as always.
>they are only compensating for the 200-1000 casualties per day
What? They conscripted almost a million people that will cover such losses for years.
>the 200-1000 casualties per day they are suffering
The vatnik barks while foaming at the mouth and trying to dodge the draft.
>I see no mass conscription
How are you so blind, they're one their 34th wave of mobilization.
they'll be mobilizing women since october. that right there is at least several hundred capable new soldiers.
Stop reading russian media, moron.
It's always so funny to see people telling that Ukraine is mass mobilizing all men are drafted, only people that don't know shit can say that
There's a lot more people willing to fight then weapons to arm them
People that actually are getting mobilized are veterans
A lot of people want to serve but the state doesn't have enough weapons for every fricking citizen without any experience
IF the Ukrainians are holding the Russians back with mainly LIGHT infantry and just token equipment, the Russian military really is more pathetic than we imagined.
We could flood Ukraine with more surplus weapons than they know what to do with.
This. Look up videos from vloggers in the central cities. There are a lot of fighting-age males in the background that aren't visibly exempt from service, and I doubt that every last one of them are nutters or flipper babies. Ukraine is far from scraping the bottom of the barrel.
>doesn't have enough weapons
From what I know it's training, not weapons. Guns are cheap and there are shit tons of them that could be packed up and shipped tomorrow. The problem is Ukraine can't train so many people on such short notice. Hence why we saw countries like Britain offer to train troops. Ukraine can call up reserves and people with past military experience and give them refresher courses, as well as recruit TDF, but training frontline soldiers from scratch on such a scale is really tough.
Black person guns are actually cheap but you can't make an army having only small arms
You need vehicles
>Ukr needs to be seriously ramped up in order to kick Vatniks out.
Why?
No one wants Russia's aids-infested people
Probably because all the support money us being funneled outside the country.
That was his money first of all, you monumental homosexual. Second of all, he was caught
How do you "carry" billions?
convert it into a picture of a monkey
What would be the point in mass mobilization? They have no guns, uniforms, trucks, food or ordnance to give them. 3 months ago the standing army was reasonably well equipped and the reserves had nothing but what each soldier had bought personally. Since then foreign aid has been trickling in but on the other hand Russia has been bombing every storage unit larger than a shoe box. Ukraine is mobilizing but without the means to make war, it is slow work.
You Black folk need to get a life.
Spreading your mental asiatic AIDS on PrepHole one thread at a time might seem important in your worthless life but it’s just disgusting to watch.
>Spreading your mental asiatic AIDS on PrepHole one thread at a time might seem important in your worthless life but it’s just disgusting to watch.
But based monke pays vatnik in rubles and rubles r stonk! If get many rubles we go to Vkusno and get patriotic burger!
Was mcdonald's always that bad in Russia or has quality taken a nosedive now they've left?
Probably a magic combination of the two
They were always shitty and then got much worse.
Check the progress as recorded in the Institute for the Study of War.
>I see no
Yeah, let's spend all day here discussing your lack of information, you insidious piece of shit.
>I see no mass conscription,
Except for it is happening right now. Not on the WW2 scale, but modern wars are fought in a different way.
Ukr government is announcing one wave of conscription after another.
>mass expansion of armed forces
Training people takes time.
>mass inflow of heavy artillery, tanks, anti air and aircraft
Ukraininan military budget is microscopic compared even to Poland. They depend on western heavy arms supplies because they can't afford manufacturing more of their own. Especially since most of their heavy industry got heavily bombarded.
>I see no mass inflow of heavy artillery.
Then you have 80 IQ
Artillery delivered so far
>20+ 152mm ShKH vz. 77 DANA [April 2022]
>20+ 122mm 2S1 Goździk [April 2022]
>18 155mm Caesar [May 2022]
>22 155mm M109A3GN [May 2022]
>8 155mm PzH 2000 [April 2022. Training completed in May 2022. Arrived to Ukraine from June 2022 onwards]
>10 155mm PzH 2000 [April 2022. Training completed in May 2022. Arrived to Ukraine from June 2022 onwards]
>18 155 mm AHS Krabs
>9 122mm D-30 [March 2022]
>155mm FH-70 [May 2022]
>155mm FH-70 [May 2022]
>126 155mm M777 [April 2022] (Towed by 141 FMTV armoured trucks)
>6 155mm M777 [April 2022]
>4 155mm M777 (Including an undisclosed amount of M982 Excalibur GPS-guided shells) [April 2022
>152mm D-20 gun-howitzer [April 2022] (Officially delivered to NATO countries for political reasons)
>20+ 122mm RM-70 [April 2022]
>20+ 122mm BM-21 Grad [April 2022]
>122mm BM-21 Grad [April 2022] (Officially delivered to NATO countries for political reasons)