i dont care as long as they do it legally. The animals their allowed to hunt are old or have proved dangerous to humans. and the money spent goes back into wildlife conservation
>and the money spent goes back into wildlife conservation
Anon, that's just a sales pitch. It's like those "Pink Ribbon" things saying your money goes to "improving breast cancer awareness", it means nothing. It's the reason they give because saying "we let you poach one if you pay us enough" isn't allowed.
>"we let you poach one if you pay us enough"
This is literally the system you want in place if you want to protect their numbers. This creates an incentive to keep the population stable.
We're not running out of chickens, because there's profit in killing them.
The only other way to maintain these animals would be to domesticate them, and frankly if all nogs vanished and whites took over the various shitskin areas again that likely would happen. They were already breaking local oxen and zebra for pack animals up to and through WW1. Start breeding them and suddenly they become domesticated in five generations if you are selecting for tractability.
it isn't impressive if that's what your asking. sport hunting is like if I bought some chink factory-made statuette and passed it off as a hand carving. being able to shoot a gun when you were brought to your prey doesn't make a sport hunter a good tracker or even a good hunter. same goes for people who bait
Depends entirely on the trophy, hunt. Some are unguided especially if you are just some guy hunting bear or bighorn sheep in America and Canada. They just drop you off in the middle of nowhere with a map and come back at several predetermined times to pick you up. Usually in a circuit they run with dozens of guys at once.
>The only other way to maintain these animals would be to domesticate them
you stupid fricking monkey you may as well have come from the heart of africa yourself to believe something so demonstrably insane. ecosystems do not need humans to manage them
not to mention it takes thousands of years to domesticate an animal, jesus christ next time you read the scribbles charles darwin wrote while he took a shit keep it to yourself because you don't
know how little you know
1 year ago
Anonymous
>not to mention it takes thousands of years to domesticate an animal
Drunken russians did it in 20 years with foxes. If you select for tractability other equalities which we expect in domestic animals are selected for by association. This has been relicated several times now in all sorts of rodents. It can be done to any mammal.
>you stupid fricking monkey you may as well have come from the heart of africa yourself to believe something so demonstrably insane.
Black folk(and shtiskins in general) are the ones who cannot properly conquer, enslave, and maintain their environment for their own benefit. Before we had pesticides we drained swamps in proximity to our settlements to reduce mosquitos, nogs did not. Before we had guns we pushed predators into inaccessible areas where they could be hunted for sport but did not prey upon our livestock. The reason we wiped out the buffalo was because cattle are generally better but now we have domestic bison for certain areas where cattle are less suited so we don't have to breed a new special variety of cattle.
Nogs didn't domesticate shit, they goat goats from the Arabs and that is about it. If whites had ruled those lands longer and properly massacred the locals like we did in America they would eventually create domesticated varieties of Zebra, waterbuffalo, ect to extract wealth from the land. Now massive farms managed by whites and worked by blacks under their direction lie fallow all over the continent. They should all be killed the continent properly tamed. We need to spread out. Same thing with all the muds in the Americas they should all be killed so that whites can spread out and with modern technology still maintain a high technology culture with large manufacturing capacity while living a life a rural ease. Europe is way to packed for may taste but America without any mudmen would be just about right.
There is no ecosystem on this planet that is not in the ongoing process of getting fricked over by humans. They're getting fricked in head and ass with jagged iron rods covered in barbed wire. That's why we need to manage anything. The ecosystem does not need human management, no. But human management is most certainly needed to limit/control the rampant human destruction of the ecosystem.
What the frick do you think the point of wildlife preserves is? It's not to fricking shelter the zebras inside the area from the lions outside it.
> This creates an incentive to keep the population stable
Not always. You may decide you want a bunch of money now rather than some more money later. Commoditizing ivory didn't lead to people farming elephants, it just lead to poaching.
Right sorry in modern white societies it will create an incentive to keep the population stable. White hunters got on board with conservation once they realized the reality of the situation. White hunters have been the largest force for conservation in history, period, by a huge margin.
>muh white peopol
Weird how there was no desperate need for active conservation before all the people that caused all the extinction events showed up
1 year ago
Anonymous
Every group in human history that has had the capacity to hunt on an unsustainable, industrial scale has done so, the only people who have ever stopped are Whites.
Post your gun.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>claim superiority over white people because of x >really you would have done the same shit but whites outcompeted you on a godlike scale >the only reason your race still exists is due to conservation efforts by whites >take to the white man's internet to claim moral superiority
I know this is probably bait but it is impossible to tell the difference when it comes to the red man.
It gives the poachers a legal, decently payed job and has reduced poaching and over hunting significantly because poachers started guarding instead of killing animals . And the richgays pay an arm and a leg to get an oportunity. >Source
Shub nigurath told me so
This, nothing wrong with a legal trophy hunt. Specific animals are chosen for culling and all the funds go to the conservation groups/towns that care for the parks.
After learning more about when I bought my elephant rifle, I think it's pretty cool. Before I thought it was tasteless, but generally it's just monetized wildlife management that helps to maintain those populations indefinitely.
>Indefinite conservation >all megafauna populations in asia and africa decreasing every year >cheetahs inbreeding like crazy
That's just not true, post asiatic lion populations over last 30 years, post elephant population over last 20 years, post cape Buffalo, ibex, lion etc.
Redditors always scream about the african animal and how wrong it is
Yet never notice the crazy amount of money funneled directly to the local villages, how it inctivives the locals to take care of the land and area for further hunters, and prevents the locals from doing illegal shit like ivory trade to provide an income.
This. Properly managed big game hunting programs are beneficial to both nature and locals. Income from the wealthy snobs go towards for example purchases of additional land to add to the park area and programs that ensure that the animals being hunted are healthy and monitored.
conservation of endangered animals is racist because african tribals are so dumb they're competing with animals on the food chain.
basically put if there's no money incentive from the west for the heckin elephantirinis, these animals would be slaughtered wholesale because africans hate them. like wolves in other parts of the world have been depleted because people hate them
This is what the homosexual b***hes crying about safari hunting fail to realize.
Say you're an average African. What incentive do you have in ensuring lions continue to exist? None. It's a large predator that's going to make off with your livestock and possibly your children too, and you'd be far better off gunning it down with a rusty AK and being done with it.
But then along comes some dentist or lawyer or whatever dropping more money than your entire town's yearly GDP because he wants to shoot a lion. You've basically won the lottery for no other reason other than living near lions. Now you have a vested financial interest in ensuring that lions continue to exist, because no more lions means no dentists and lawyers dropping fat stacks of cash on you to hunt them. You also now have the funds to make that happen. You can pay some guys to drive off the poachers and keep track of the lions to make sure their population stays healthy.
The pearl-clutchers will whine all day about how mean and immoral trophy hunting is, but you know what they don't do? They don't donate tens of thousands of dollars to wildlife preserves. The hunters do. Whether consciously or not, They've mad the choice that they'd rather all of these species slowly die out as long as they don't have to see pictures of dentists and lawyers posing with dead animals on the internet.
>hunting tards belive theyre helping big
Im getting some rough numbers on south africa of simple wildlife tourism netting 20 billion dollars while hunting tourism only makes 350 million >we're making a difference
You gays are so full of yourselves and the animal populations are falling despite your "big boy majority contributions"
hunting aint shit and most people wont to see the animals not be a homosexual little dick animal killer
>You gays are so full of yourselves and the animal populations are falling
Are you certain that's not because Black folk shoot them and grind up their parts for dick placebos they sell to Chinks?
conservation of endangered animals is racist because african tribals are so dumb they're competing with animals on the food chain.
basically put if there's no money incentive from the west for the heckin elephantirinis, these animals would be slaughtered wholesale because africans hate them. like wolves in other parts of the world have been depleted because people hate them
The locals are eating that meat. So long as its not wasted who cares. Plenty of rural towns stateside have donation services for game meat that wasn't needed/wanted by hunters.
the locals are meat for the animals. If they had guns why shouldn't they be allowed to hunt the animals for themselves?
Rules for the locals, not for the blue blood foreigners
>europeans kill all the wolves and bears and megafauna that come into contact with them >no africa you are not allowed to kill the animals that eat you because i think they're cute
>Black folk having value >Black folk not being of negative value
"Sport" hunting doesn't meet any traditional definition of sport unless you're hunting armed humans and that's really it's own thing.
Hunting has been the sport of nobility forever moron, you are competing against the other men to see who can kill the most or best animals. That's why Greek and Macedonian nobles weren't considered adult until they killed a boar with a spear on a hunt with their peers. Even the most genteel form of hunting like a bunch of 19th century nobles shooting quail in tweed jackets is about outshooting your peers and earning their respect with a restrictive set of rules of edict.
Leopard is both tasty and stylish, and big game hunter memoirs are consistently kino.
>t. dishonest sociopath that is only anti-capitalist or eco-friendly when it suits him
Anthropological curiosities fed on subsidized BigAgra exports breeding like rats only add zeros to the ballooning world population. They are maintained as convenient geopolitical placeholders to stop a rare earth metals free for all, and nothing besides.
What is your problem with actively organising an infrastructure and business model that improves the short and long term survival and genetic health of several majestic species of animals in danger of extinction?
Are you too dumb to understand how the system works? The whole point is to make poaching impossible in protected wildlife preserves by funding the motherfricking park rangers that actually enforce that same thing.
The whole fricking deal in a nutshell is basically milking for money the rich people who wants to shoot a lion by having them shoot a lion that had to be shot anyway by the game wardens due to any number of reasons ranging from illness to overpopulation -and then use those oftentimes 6 figured sums to buy more square miles of wildlife preserve and fund the park rangers that protect the animals.
Are you dumb or do you just wanna shoot someone for any reason you can find?
>Are you too dumb to understand how the system works?
Yes. That is 100% the reason why people make posts like that. I've had these arguments so many times in the past, I can with full certainty tell you that it's just a question of stupidity. The people making those posts are simply too stupid to actually understand how the system works.
You would be absolutely shocked at how many people are genuinely incapable of thinking beyond the surface level. They bounce from one short-term dopamine hit and rage fuel to the next and aren't able to, nor want to, put their minds to any further use than that.
Went on one as a little kid. Was interesting to see how fricked up Africa is. I’m absolutely positive that without the financial incentive to raise these animals, a good number of them would go extinct from poaching.
>I just want a bunch of animals to starve to death and eat locals who will then hunt them to extinction.
Smart, big brain move by the Greenpeace homosexual morons.
Roosevelt was a radical progressive
he could have saved this country honestly i think America has been frick ever since we flubbed reconstruction but maybe teddy coulda course corrected
>i think America has been frick ever since we flubbed reconstruction
Swarthoid detected, I almost guarantee you have zero pre civil war ancestry. 'flubbing Reconstruction' is code for seething about the failure of the Radical Republicans to erase Southern culture, which they weren't able to do solely because of the South winning the guerilla war.
Mmm no sweaty
https://wyofile.com/study-non-hunters-contribute-most-to-wildlife/
and its not close
and peoples cars hunt more deer per year than you fat hicks
Pretty much everyone does both, because outside of frontier country you're 100% going to have access to a supermarket so the number of people who truly hunt solely for food is limited. That said, while the contributions of hunters to conservation efforts are overblown, a well managed sport hunting program does have objectively positive effects and I don't harbor any resentment towards them. The hunters themselves get to kill something and eat it and the wildlife management service gets to charge people for the priveledge of doing their job for them. This revenue gets reused and helps to offset the tax burden caused managing wildlife, which is something that must be done anyways in lieu of predatory animals.
>people getting hurt and incurring property damage in car crashes is a better method of managing deer populations than just shooting them
This isn't the first time I've heard this argued and I'm confused as to why so many seem to think this is a perfectly fine way to view the situation. Have you ever seen a deer get hit by a car? It's not a very humane way to kill them.
If you actually cared for the environment you would: >limit consumerism and limit purchasing wasteful products >limit use/purchase of plastics >purchase products for their reliability and longevity >purchase a used clean/low milage fuel efficient commuter (no less than 35mpg) >maintain and use car for as many years as possible (10+ years) >support nuclear power plants >oppose the high quantity, limited-life, and non-recyclable equipment used in power generation methods such as solar or wind >oppose lithium battery mining until economically viable recycling methods are found >support nuclear powered cargo ships >oppose globalism and immigration
Maybe the people who actually know enough about how humans and the economy work realize that the only way any fricking thing like what you mentioned ever happened in human history has been prompted by constant incentive pressure. Naturally, legislative or culturally/technologically emergent.
A human with a working brain will work towards getting shit done instead of just merely feeling like they get shit done.
Getting the long shitpile list of all this unfricked is a participant game. You gotta be a player. I hate frickwads like you who don't give enough of a shit to actually look into If their shitty rhetoric is scientifically or logically cohesive and care more about pretending to be whatever the frick I don't even know what the frick you're smoking.
No you dumb shit don't you frickin listen? Lithium battery technology is unsustainable at global population levels and the only reason it's in any sort of use at all is the exact shithead goodfeel I'm talking about. Continuous-cycle codependent microbial system enzyme reactors that can energy-efficiently convert fast growing vegetable biomass to chemical fuels is the way to go. It's hard to beat chemically stored energy in the form of hydrocarbons in practicality and energy density.
You are moronic. Do you not understand the value and applications of self perpetuating biological systems that capture and bind atmospheric carbon? The efficiency is almost irrelevant compared to the extreme practical application ease. You understand that biomass is more than just your uncle Billy Bob's state subsidized corn and their easily convertible starch. I'm talking about lignins and celluloses. I'm talking about the totality of the photosynthetic lifeform structures. Again I must apparantly reiterate this to get it through your mongoloid deafness: the goal is results not sci-fi make believe. Any technology of human artificial nature is limited by resources and and local technological availability.
What's a better alternative then you mong? Hit me. If you haven't a more impactful and practically achievable option I want to know what it is.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Fuel is the least of your worries.
Focus on consooomer manufacturing.
You've been gulping israelite propaganda cum so much that it's spewing out of your mouth and onto the keyboard.
That just sounds like all the more reason to get rid of them then. Not only do we get rid of their domestic pollution, but we also cut the throat of international pollution.
These animals you think are majestic especial creatures would eat your skinny carcass in a heartbeat you moronic homosexual THERE'S NOTHING ESPECIAL ABOUT WILD ANIMALS only pussy suburbanites think like that
>people could donate 5 dollars to african wildlife management >but they'd rather donate nothing and claim rich people shooting animals is actually saving them so their total non contribution is morally just
I completely don't give a shit as long as the ecosystem isn't being hurt and the animals are killed in a humane way (aka quickly). I guess I have a small problem with those taking trophies off of edible animals without taking care of the meat though, just seems like a waste.
Not my cup of tea, but I have no objections if the game populations are properly managed. That can be a pretty big "if" depending on the local government and the target species.
I spent a lot of time down in SA, near Marloth Park to be precise
Sport hunters are vilified and will get shot by locals/rangers if they happen to be hunting big five, and no one will do a thing about it, it's pretty based.
As of late they've caught on and hire armed security but fewer and fewer serious contractors accept that sort of assignment
All sustainable hunting is based, but what kind of homosexual goes through all the trouble to kill an exotic animal once in their life and doesn't see how it tastes?
it isn't impressive if that's what your asking. sport hunting is like if I bought some chink factory-made statuette and passed it off as a hand carving. being able to shoot a gun when you were brought to your prey doesn't make a sport hunter a good tracker or even a good hunter. same goes for people who bait
Hunting for sport where you actually go out in the woods and either try tracking or waiting out an actual animal is pretty ok. Particularly bow hunting. Shooting dumbass animals with rifles isn’t very impressive to me.
No tolerance for the rich boomer hunting where they like go to a farm and they release the animal for them to shoot. That shits gay as frick. Like who the frick is gonna brag about like a safari bus driving you to an air conditioned tree stand so they can release an animal you selected to wander into your line of sight where there’s a bunch of bait. At that point just shoot it in the head in the cage who gives a shit? Obviously the goal is to just feel what’s it like to kill a thing so why bother with the all the theatrics?
I think trophy hunting isn't all that impressive when you learn a lot of it is done in helicopters or cars. Now for the few that go the distance and track their prey and actually endanger themselves chasing after a dangerous animal in a fairly hostile environment absolutely get my respect. That's not an easy task and should be appreciated, especially if they use more primitive weapons instead of some top of the line safari rifle
If they're hunting for sport and it's regulated, then it's fine. Their license fees are what funds conservation work, and depending on the context can feed a lot of locals.
Usually the parks/reserves will single out aggressive individual animals to get rid of, or deal with overpopulation of a species by way of regulated hunting.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. >nooo you can't just enjoy literally the oldest sport forget human history even other animals enjoy hunting!
Yes you actually can. >noooo but you can't hunt animals in Africa, Africans are too stupid and incompetent to have their own laws and rules, we have to invent them for them!
Frankly I consider this opinion asinine especially from Europeans who exterminated pretty much every large predator on their entire continent. Yeah, Europe used to have lions too you know, and they killed the frick out of them. Because it's only cool when OTHER places have predators capable of easily killing humans. It's a lot nicer when you don't have to worry about them.
>Frankly I consider this opinion asinine especially from Europeans who exterminated pretty much every large predator on their entire continent. Yeah, Europe used to have lions too you know, and they killed the frick out of them. Because it's only cool when OTHER places have predators capable of easily killing humans. It's a lot nicer when you don't have to worry about them.
We should reintroduce lions everywhere in the world. The unarmed should live in constant fear.
Not a fan. It’s basically rich people paying 15k for an animal corpse. I know a guy who did it and he had to pay for the “hunt” which consisted of Africans flushing out an old lion and a guy next to him telling him when he was allowed to shoot it. Then he had to pay separately for the head. And he did it all from the safety of an armed caravan.
I don't like it personally but certain animals need to be culled regularly in order to preserve ecosystems. Some of these animals aren't good food and some of those animals make cool trophies.
And idk, if I was getting old to the point where I couldn't effectively provide for myself and outcast from my pack/family/tribe/ whatever I would rather die by gunshot than old age
Based since it helps feed villagers with the meat, pays for land preservation, and focuses on outcast animals.
Also, sport hunting is essential for reintegration of man with the rest of nature.
POV: You are looking at the very few positive aspects of Theodore Roosevelt. He should have made the FDA into an incentive-based voluntary guild for certification and insurance and stayed away from running for office after Taft came into office.
I went fishing in Alaska last year, that was p cool. Caught 23 pounds of fish. Two king salmon, two halibut(28 inch and 36 inch), and two rockfish. Still have them vacuum sealed in my freezer.
I dont care for animals nor the nigs that are in Africa and neither should anyone. But if some limp wristed yt wants to cry about animal poachers they should atleast have the balls to admit that black lives are worth less than animals
Many national parks rely on fat Americans paying prime bucks to shoot cancer ridden lions or dying elephants. Honestly it's free money for the park and the morons paying it are happy. People are outraged due to nothing.
I believe people like them should be hunted for sport.
I'll be waiting, nigglander.
They're cool
Whats so cool about taking a life?
Everything. Have you seen call of duty?
you have evolved to find taking a life pleasurable
When you are to affraid to attack a human you kill animals to prove how manly you are, its just a homosexual sport
Meh, whatever.
i dont care as long as they do it legally. The animals their allowed to hunt are old or have proved dangerous to humans. and the money spent goes back into wildlife conservation
>and the money spent goes back into wildlife conservation
Anon, that's just a sales pitch. It's like those "Pink Ribbon" things saying your money goes to "improving breast cancer awareness", it means nothing. It's the reason they give because saying "we let you poach one if you pay us enough" isn't allowed.
Not him but who cares?
>Uh ohhhh, an animal died, I better cry now(low T)
>"we let you poach one if you pay us enough"
This is literally the system you want in place if you want to protect their numbers. This creates an incentive to keep the population stable.
We're not running out of chickens, because there's profit in killing them.
The only other way to maintain these animals would be to domesticate them, and frankly if all nogs vanished and whites took over the various shitskin areas again that likely would happen. They were already breaking local oxen and zebra for pack animals up to and through WW1. Start breeding them and suddenly they become domesticated in five generations if you are selecting for tractability.
Depends entirely on the trophy, hunt. Some are unguided especially if you are just some guy hunting bear or bighorn sheep in America and Canada. They just drop you off in the middle of nowhere with a map and come back at several predetermined times to pick you up. Usually in a circuit they run with dozens of guys at once.
>The only other way to maintain these animals would be to domesticate them
you stupid fricking monkey you may as well have come from the heart of africa yourself to believe something so demonstrably insane. ecosystems do not need humans to manage them
not to mention it takes thousands of years to domesticate an animal, jesus christ next time you read the scribbles charles darwin wrote while he took a shit keep it to yourself because you don't
know how little you know
>not to mention it takes thousands of years to domesticate an animal
Drunken russians did it in 20 years with foxes. If you select for tractability other equalities which we expect in domestic animals are selected for by association. This has been relicated several times now in all sorts of rodents. It can be done to any mammal.
Yeah, regular ecosystems don't have Black folk with AKs though
That has nothing to do with domesticating wild animals, Black person
>you stupid fricking monkey you may as well have come from the heart of africa yourself to believe something so demonstrably insane.
Black folk(and shtiskins in general) are the ones who cannot properly conquer, enslave, and maintain their environment for their own benefit. Before we had pesticides we drained swamps in proximity to our settlements to reduce mosquitos, nogs did not. Before we had guns we pushed predators into inaccessible areas where they could be hunted for sport but did not prey upon our livestock. The reason we wiped out the buffalo was because cattle are generally better but now we have domestic bison for certain areas where cattle are less suited so we don't have to breed a new special variety of cattle.
Nogs didn't domesticate shit, they goat goats from the Arabs and that is about it. If whites had ruled those lands longer and properly massacred the locals like we did in America they would eventually create domesticated varieties of Zebra, waterbuffalo, ect to extract wealth from the land. Now massive farms managed by whites and worked by blacks under their direction lie fallow all over the continent. They should all be killed the continent properly tamed. We need to spread out. Same thing with all the muds in the Americas they should all be killed so that whites can spread out and with modern technology still maintain a high technology culture with large manufacturing capacity while living a life a rural ease. Europe is way to packed for may taste but America without any mudmen would be just about right.
There is no ecosystem on this planet that is not in the ongoing process of getting fricked over by humans. They're getting fricked in head and ass with jagged iron rods covered in barbed wire. That's why we need to manage anything. The ecosystem does not need human management, no. But human management is most certainly needed to limit/control the rampant human destruction of the ecosystem.
What the frick do you think the point of wildlife preserves is? It's not to fricking shelter the zebras inside the area from the lions outside it.
> This creates an incentive to keep the population stable
Not always. You may decide you want a bunch of money now rather than some more money later. Commoditizing ivory didn't lead to people farming elephants, it just lead to poaching.
Right sorry in modern white societies it will create an incentive to keep the population stable. White hunters got on board with conservation once they realized the reality of the situation. White hunters have been the largest force for conservation in history, period, by a huge margin.
>muh white peopol
Weird how there was no desperate need for active conservation before all the people that caused all the extinction events showed up
Every group in human history that has had the capacity to hunt on an unsustainable, industrial scale has done so, the only people who have ever stopped are Whites.
Post your gun.
>claim superiority over white people because of x
>really you would have done the same shit but whites outcompeted you on a godlike scale
>the only reason your race still exists is due to conservation efforts by whites
>take to the white man's internet to claim moral superiority
I know this is probably bait but it is impossible to tell the difference when it comes to the red man.
It gives the poachers a legal, decently payed job and has reduced poaching and over hunting significantly because poachers started guarding instead of killing animals . And the richgays pay an arm and a leg to get an oportunity.
>Source
Shub nigurath told me so
This, nothing wrong with a legal trophy hunt. Specific animals are chosen for culling and all the funds go to the conservation groups/towns that care for the parks.
Frick them. Unless you hunt shitbulls and outdoor cats, frick you.
Are you a homosexual? That's a very homosexual opinion so I'm just trying to connect the dots here.
no, I'm just from PrepHole, and those are the only animals I hate
Bambo has a gay cousin, donchaknow.
After learning more about when I bought my elephant rifle, I think it's pretty cool. Before I thought it was tasteless, but generally it's just monetized wildlife management that helps to maintain those populations indefinitely.
Isn't that what you would tell people so that they feel less guilty and continue to pay you?
It's also what the truth is.
That's just not true, post asiatic lion populations over last 30 years, post elephant population over last 20 years, post cape Buffalo, ibex, lion etc.
Why lie about instantly googleable things?
Why not post the numbers?
>because they don't support your lies
That's why
>Indefinite conservation
>all megafauna populations in asia and africa decreasing every year
>cheetahs inbreeding like crazy
Redditors always scream about the african animal and how wrong it is
Yet never notice the crazy amount of money funneled directly to the local villages, how it inctivives the locals to take care of the land and area for further hunters, and prevents the locals from doing illegal shit like ivory trade to provide an income.
This. Properly managed big game hunting programs are beneficial to both nature and locals. Income from the wealthy snobs go towards for example purchases of additional land to add to the park area and programs that ensure that the animals being hunted are healthy and monitored.
This is what the homosexual b***hes crying about safari hunting fail to realize.
Say you're an average African. What incentive do you have in ensuring lions continue to exist? None. It's a large predator that's going to make off with your livestock and possibly your children too, and you'd be far better off gunning it down with a rusty AK and being done with it.
But then along comes some dentist or lawyer or whatever dropping more money than your entire town's yearly GDP because he wants to shoot a lion. You've basically won the lottery for no other reason other than living near lions. Now you have a vested financial interest in ensuring that lions continue to exist, because no more lions means no dentists and lawyers dropping fat stacks of cash on you to hunt them. You also now have the funds to make that happen. You can pay some guys to drive off the poachers and keep track of the lions to make sure their population stays healthy.
The pearl-clutchers will whine all day about how mean and immoral trophy hunting is, but you know what they don't do? They don't donate tens of thousands of dollars to wildlife preserves. The hunters do. Whether consciously or not, They've mad the choice that they'd rather all of these species slowly die out as long as they don't have to see pictures of dentists and lawyers posing with dead animals on the internet.
But we can make fun of the dentists and lawyers for being low-T
Only lawyers, dentists are fine.
Dentists provide a useful service, but they're often really horrible people.
>hunting tards belive theyre helping big
Im getting some rough numbers on south africa of simple wildlife tourism netting 20 billion dollars while hunting tourism only makes 350 million
>we're making a difference
You gays are so full of yourselves and the animal populations are falling despite your "big boy majority contributions"
hunting aint shit and most people wont to see the animals not be a homosexual little dick animal killer
Firearms owners are the single largest source of conservation funds in North America.
It's as shirmple as that, you blibbering gretasimp.
>You gays are so full of yourselves and the animal populations are falling
Are you certain that's not because Black folk shoot them and grind up their parts for dick placebos they sell to Chinks?
conservation of endangered animals is racist because african tribals are so dumb they're competing with animals on the food chain.
basically put if there's no money incentive from the west for the heckin elephantirinis, these animals would be slaughtered wholesale because africans hate them. like wolves in other parts of the world have been depleted because people hate them
Bait thread, almost all hunters do both.
>Verification not required
Kill every invasive species whenever you get the chance, only hunt native animals for food or to cull the population, never hunt anything protected.
The locals are eating that meat. So long as its not wasted who cares. Plenty of rural towns stateside have donation services for game meat that wasn't needed/wanted by hunters.
the locals are meat for the animals. If they had guns why shouldn't they be allowed to hunt the animals for themselves?
Rules for the locals, not for the blue blood foreigners
It is in many, if you have the balls for it there are several reserves that would be happy to let you hunt poachers.
Half the reason why many of those species even exist today. Africans would hunt them into extinction if Westerners didn't pay for their tags.
>europeans kill all the wolves and bears and megafauna that come into contact with them
>no africa you are not allowed to kill the animals that eat you because i think they're cute
Yes. The people with the money and the power get to dictate how things go. Welcome to reality, enjoy your stay.
T. Has no money or power
Not everyone is a maliciously envious piece of filth like you.
yes some are malicious toady cretins like you
Stop projecting your subhuman, devilish attitudes onto others. You are a beast in human skin and nothing more. A petty-devil.
Leopards are more valuable than African humans.
>Black folk having value
>Black folk not being of negative value
Hunting has been the sport of nobility forever moron, you are competing against the other men to see who can kill the most or best animals. That's why Greek and Macedonian nobles weren't considered adult until they killed a boar with a spear on a hunt with their peers. Even the most genteel form of hunting like a bunch of 19th century nobles shooting quail in tweed jackets is about outshooting your peers and earning their respect with a restrictive set of rules of edict.
Leopard is both tasty and stylish, and big game hunter memoirs are consistently kino.
>t. dishonest sociopath that is only anti-capitalist or eco-friendly when it suits him
Anthropological curiosities fed on subsidized BigAgra exports breeding like rats only add zeros to the ballooning world population. They are maintained as convenient geopolitical placeholders to stop a rare earth metals free for all, and nothing besides.
You're comparing something that happened millennia ago to something that's currently ongoing.
What is your problem with actively organising an infrastructure and business model that improves the short and long term survival and genetic health of several majestic species of animals in danger of extinction?
Are you too dumb to understand how the system works? The whole point is to make poaching impossible in protected wildlife preserves by funding the motherfricking park rangers that actually enforce that same thing.
The whole fricking deal in a nutshell is basically milking for money the rich people who wants to shoot a lion by having them shoot a lion that had to be shot anyway by the game wardens due to any number of reasons ranging from illness to overpopulation -and then use those oftentimes 6 figured sums to buy more square miles of wildlife preserve and fund the park rangers that protect the animals.
Are you dumb or do you just wanna shoot someone for any reason you can find?
I mean I'm in favor of both normal conservation and poacher bounty hunting
>Are you too dumb to understand how the system works?
Yes. That is 100% the reason why people make posts like that. I've had these arguments so many times in the past, I can with full certainty tell you that it's just a question of stupidity. The people making those posts are simply too stupid to actually understand how the system works.
You would be absolutely shocked at how many people are genuinely incapable of thinking beyond the surface level. They bounce from one short-term dopamine hit and rage fuel to the next and aren't able to, nor want to, put their minds to any further use than that.
Went on one as a little kid. Was interesting to see how fricked up Africa is. I’m absolutely positive that without the financial incentive to raise these animals, a good number of them would go extinct from poaching.
>I just want a bunch of animals to starve to death and eat locals who will then hunt them to extinction.
Smart, big brain move by the Greenpeace homosexual morons.
>hunting oryx and other antelope is le bad
Bro there's literally millions of them
And they taste good
Conservatards be like
>killing animals is good
>caring about the environment is bad
Out of my sight, direction-brain
Roosevelt was a radical progressive
he could have saved this country
honestly i think America has been frick ever since we flubbed reconstruction but maybe teddy coulda course corrected
>i think America has been frick ever since we flubbed reconstruction
Swarthoid detected, I almost guarantee you have zero pre civil war ancestry. 'flubbing Reconstruction' is code for seething about the failure of the Radical Republicans to erase Southern culture, which they weren't able to do solely because of the South winning the guerilla war.
>doesn't know that hunters are the primary contributors to conservation efforts
Ok moron.
Don't bother trying ot reason with the developmentally disabled. Your post is already too complex for them to understand.
Mmm no sweaty
https://wyofile.com/study-non-hunters-contribute-most-to-wildlife/
and its not close
and peoples cars hunt more deer per year than you fat hicks
this is just an old guy b***hing about how game and fish handles wildlife management
Pretty much everyone does both, because outside of frontier country you're 100% going to have access to a supermarket so the number of people who truly hunt solely for food is limited. That said, while the contributions of hunters to conservation efforts are overblown, a well managed sport hunting program does have objectively positive effects and I don't harbor any resentment towards them. The hunters themselves get to kill something and eat it and the wildlife management service gets to charge people for the priveledge of doing their job for them. This revenue gets reused and helps to offset the tax burden caused managing wildlife, which is something that must be done anyways in lieu of predatory animals.
>people getting hurt and incurring property damage in car crashes is a better method of managing deer populations than just shooting them
This isn't the first time I've heard this argued and I'm confused as to why so many seem to think this is a perfectly fine way to view the situation. Have you ever seen a deer get hit by a car? It's not a very humane way to kill them.
>care about the environment
If you actually cared for the environment you would:
>limit consumerism and limit purchasing wasteful products
>limit use/purchase of plastics
>purchase products for their reliability and longevity
>purchase a used clean/low milage fuel efficient commuter (no less than 35mpg)
>maintain and use car for as many years as possible (10+ years)
>support nuclear power plants
>oppose the high quantity, limited-life, and non-recyclable equipment used in power generation methods such as solar or wind
>oppose lithium battery mining until economically viable recycling methods are found
>support nuclear powered cargo ships
>oppose globalism and immigration
i-i do
give leftypol gf now pls
>Lefty
didn't he say oppose globalism and green energy initiatives?
Maybe the people who actually know enough about how humans and the economy work realize that the only way any fricking thing like what you mentioned ever happened in human history has been prompted by constant incentive pressure. Naturally, legislative or culturally/technologically emergent.
A human with a working brain will work towards getting shit done instead of just merely feeling like they get shit done.
Getting the long shitpile list of all this unfricked is a participant game. You gotta be a player. I hate frickwads like you who don't give enough of a shit to actually look into If their shitty rhetoric is scientifically or logically cohesive and care more about pretending to be whatever the frick I don't even know what the frick you're smoking.
t. Just bought a Tesla to "save the environment"
No you dumb shit don't you frickin listen? Lithium battery technology is unsustainable at global population levels and the only reason it's in any sort of use at all is the exact shithead goodfeel I'm talking about. Continuous-cycle codependent microbial system enzyme reactors that can energy-efficiently convert fast growing vegetable biomass to chemical fuels is the way to go. It's hard to beat chemically stored energy in the form of hydrocarbons in practicality and energy density.
>vegetable biomass
Into the trash it goes.
You are moronic. Do you not understand the value and applications of self perpetuating biological systems that capture and bind atmospheric carbon? The efficiency is almost irrelevant compared to the extreme practical application ease. You understand that biomass is more than just your uncle Billy Bob's state subsidized corn and their easily convertible starch. I'm talking about lignins and celluloses. I'm talking about the totality of the photosynthetic lifeform structures. Again I must apparantly reiterate this to get it through your mongoloid deafness: the goal is results not sci-fi make believe. Any technology of human artificial nature is limited by resources and and local technological availability.
What's a better alternative then you mong? Hit me. If you haven't a more impactful and practically achievable option I want to know what it is.
Fuel is the least of your worries.
Focus on consooomer manufacturing.
You've been gulping israelite propaganda cum so much that it's spewing out of your mouth and onto the keyboard.
So, when are we destroying China and India, the world's ecological cancers?
Most of their pollution is from making shit for first worlders to consoom.
That just sounds like all the more reason to get rid of them then. Not only do we get rid of their domestic pollution, but we also cut the throat of international pollution.
I don't think about it at all.
The only thing I'm hunting for...
Is an outfit that looks goood
I don't really give a shit as long as they practice wildlife conservation.
moronic Black folk that deserve to be hung, drawn and quartered in public spectacle.
These animals you think are majestic especial creatures would eat your skinny carcass in a heartbeat you moronic homosexual THERE'S NOTHING ESPECIAL ABOUT WILD ANIMALS only pussy suburbanites think like that
>people could donate 5 dollars to african wildlife management
>but they'd rather donate nothing and claim rich people shooting animals is actually saving them so their total non contribution is morally just
>we need money fo dem programs so we don't kill all deh animals
Sounds like an Africa problem.
whites shouldve stayed in africa and there wouldnt be a problem
>Food
Cool. Connect to the land.
>Trophies
Eh, wasteful IMO. I guess specific circumstances/animal population issues may "justify" it. Not my thing.
It’s a way to make hippies angry, so I’m all in favor of it. Plus it would be cool to eat rhinoceros.
Wonder how they taste and what safari animal tastes best. My money is on hippos
Nice R93
I completely don't give a shit as long as the ecosystem isn't being hurt and the animals are killed in a humane way (aka quickly). I guess I have a small problem with those taking trophies off of edible animals without taking care of the meat though, just seems like a waste.
On the big safaris at least the meat usually gets given to the local village that gets hired to help out.
Not my cup of tea, but I have no objections if the game populations are properly managed. That can be a pretty big "if" depending on the local government and the target species.
Predators should not hunt fellow predators
kill dumb animals like gazelles is fine though
Dickless homosexuals think sniping an elephant from half a mile away is hot shit. If you hunt a boar with spears, you're cool.
I think they are absolute scum.
>but the poor africans
So? I bet gazelle tastes good.
I spent a lot of time down in SA, near Marloth Park to be precise
Sport hunters are vilified and will get shot by locals/rangers if they happen to be hunting big five, and no one will do a thing about it, it's pretty based.
As of late they've caught on and hire armed security but fewer and fewer serious contractors accept that sort of assignment
Looks like some gay was killed just last year
Sounds more like the local Black folk figured out that rich white men often have Rolexes.
"Sport" hunting doesn't meet any traditional definition of sport unless you're hunting armed humans and that's really it's own thing.
I don't really care, I shoot hogs and coyotes, then drag them out to the property line for the buzzards and other scavengers.
All sustainable hunting is based, but what kind of homosexual goes through all the trouble to kill an exotic animal once in their life and doesn't see how it tastes?
it isn't impressive if that's what your asking. sport hunting is like if I bought some chink factory-made statuette and passed it off as a hand carving. being able to shoot a gun when you were brought to your prey doesn't make a sport hunter a good tracker or even a good hunter. same goes for people who bait
Hunting for sport where you actually go out in the woods and either try tracking or waiting out an actual animal is pretty ok. Particularly bow hunting. Shooting dumbass animals with rifles isn’t very impressive to me.
No tolerance for the rich boomer hunting where they like go to a farm and they release the animal for them to shoot. That shits gay as frick. Like who the frick is gonna brag about like a safari bus driving you to an air conditioned tree stand so they can release an animal you selected to wander into your line of sight where there’s a bunch of bait. At that point just shoot it in the head in the cage who gives a shit? Obviously the goal is to just feel what’s it like to kill a thing so why bother with the all the theatrics?
I think trophy hunting isn't all that impressive when you learn a lot of it is done in helicopters or cars. Now for the few that go the distance and track their prey and actually endanger themselves chasing after a dangerous animal in a fairly hostile environment absolutely get my respect. That's not an easy task and should be appreciated, especially if they use more primitive weapons instead of some top of the line safari rifle
If they're hunting for sport and it's regulated, then it's fine. Their license fees are what funds conservation work, and depending on the context can feed a lot of locals.
Usually the parks/reserves will single out aggressive individual animals to get rid of, or deal with overpopulation of a species by way of regulated hunting.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.
>nooo you can't just enjoy literally the oldest sport forget human history even other animals enjoy hunting!
Yes you actually can.
>noooo but you can't hunt animals in Africa, Africans are too stupid and incompetent to have their own laws and rules, we have to invent them for them!
Frankly I consider this opinion asinine especially from Europeans who exterminated pretty much every large predator on their entire continent. Yeah, Europe used to have lions too you know, and they killed the frick out of them. Because it's only cool when OTHER places have predators capable of easily killing humans. It's a lot nicer when you don't have to worry about them.
>Frankly I consider this opinion asinine especially from Europeans who exterminated pretty much every large predator on their entire continent. Yeah, Europe used to have lions too you know, and they killed the frick out of them. Because it's only cool when OTHER places have predators capable of easily killing humans. It's a lot nicer when you don't have to worry about them.
We should reintroduce lions everywhere in the world. The unarmed should live in constant fear.
I would welcome wild lions and bears, it'd finally justify my decision to CC a 10mm
Hunting endangered animals is cringe, and do ish hunting to get claws, bones, and other stuff for "traditional medicine" otherwise I don't really care
Not a fan. It’s basically rich people paying 15k for an animal corpse. I know a guy who did it and he had to pay for the “hunt” which consisted of Africans flushing out an old lion and a guy next to him telling him when he was allowed to shoot it. Then he had to pay separately for the head. And he did it all from the safety of an armed caravan.
All life dies so why not mercifully shoot it?
I'd rather stop a .458 than get torn apart by hyena, lions or Wakandans.
I don't like it personally but certain animals need to be culled regularly in order to preserve ecosystems. Some of these animals aren't good food and some of those animals make cool trophies.
And idk, if I was getting old to the point where I couldn't effectively provide for myself and outcast from my pack/family/tribe/ whatever I would rather die by gunshot than old age
Based since it helps feed villagers with the meat, pays for land preservation, and focuses on outcast animals.
Also, sport hunting is essential for reintegration of man with the rest of nature.
POV: You are looking at the very few positive aspects of Theodore Roosevelt. He should have made the FDA into an incentive-based voluntary guild for certification and insurance and stayed away from running for office after Taft came into office.
God imagine that thing tearing into a Black person and crushing it in its jaws.
I went fishing in Alaska last year, that was p cool. Caught 23 pounds of fish. Two king salmon, two halibut(28 inch and 36 inch), and two rockfish. Still have them vacuum sealed in my freezer.
Following up, Yeah, the experience made me respect people who go out hunting given they actually trek and follow their kill.
I don't hunt for sport or food, I hunt because I like killing things.
If they are hunting Russians for sport, they are pretty cool.
Aren't Pandas practically inbred as a species due to habitat destruction? If we avoid similar fates, there's no problem.
There's only one animal on this planet dangerous enough to hunt for sport: man.
I dont care for animals nor the nigs that are in Africa and neither should anyone. But if some limp wristed yt wants to cry about animal poachers they should atleast have the balls to admit that black lives are worth less than animals
I'm a big fan of Maneater hunting, truly the only real sporting hunt a man can undergo.
Many national parks rely on fat Americans paying prime bucks to shoot cancer ridden lions or dying elephants. Honestly it's free money for the park and the morons paying it are happy. People are outraged due to nothing.
>What about poachers?
Kill them all.