Let's say your theoretical mission was to stick up a drug deal, so obviously you have to be ready to fight upwards of two men, armed with self-loading pistols, possibly even full-auto TEC-9's or Draco's. Of course there could be more than two, and accomplices could have rifles concealed in their bags, clothes or vehicles. Body armor is a possibility, as is the whole thing dragging out with police being involved.
So, having weighted your mission, with the benefit of decades of police training, patrol and detective experience you pack: >x2 ballistic face masks from Wish.com >x2 Level II surplus kevlar vests from mid-90's >x1 Remington 700 >x1 Colt Python with loose ammo >nothing else
I think doing nickle-and-dime violent crime with an ultra-rare and highly-restricted gun like an HK MP7A1 sounds like a great way to get caught very quickly lol.
>planning for potentially a full-auto draco >level II soft vest
Yikes
>I think doing nickle-and-dime violent crime with an ultra-rare and highly-restricted gun like an HK MP7A1 sounds like a great way to get caught very quickly lol.
lol but
How do you know get the reference?
Mel Gibson succeed in taking the medal of dishonor for being the worst protagonist arms procurer from Benicio del Toro in The Way of the Gun. Great job! Other than that, fun movie. Also recommend Bone Tomahawk and Brawl in Block 99, same director.
I appreciate the final showdown scene, especially how they corner them, ask them to surrender then ram the van and flip it. In most movies they would have rushed the flipped van but gibson and king of queens just drive back to a safe distance and post up.
Its sort of a dumb movie but i appreciate the thought put into the character's actions.
I'm not making excuses, but it is what it is - even "right-leaning" movie directors usually only have a very cursory understanding of weapons and tactics. And protagonists' gear is usually dictated by what's available at the movie armory, not what makes sense.
From the level of intelligence, skill and funding the bank robbers had, it's clear that they should be wielding a MAC-11, a Draco and a 15-year old .40 S&W Glock with a switch. It makes zero sense for an Mp7 to be anywhere near the setting of that film.
Is the spoiler at the end of the movie that they're just dumb larpers? Because they act like dumb larpers who want to get caught. The youtube comments on that video are fricking terrible. 'ooo such spooky ambiance evil bad guys oooo' BOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY SUCK
Really moronic. Slaughtering a bunch of people for petty cash is going to attract a shitload of attention from the authorities and media. Probably even more than what you would get if they had robbed a couple liquor stores.
When the bank robbery turned into a mass murder/missing persons case it kind of turned into a shitload of attention. Been a while since I saw the movie but I thought the whole point was the bank had gold.
The last man standing wouldn't have been standing long since cell phone tower pinging is a thing. Vehicles and the shallow graves would have been found, bodies ID'd and acquaintances figured out.
Really moronic. Slaughtering a bunch of people for petty cash is going to attract a shitload of attention from the authorities and media. Probably even more than what you would get if they had robbed a couple liquor stores.
You have a CSI writer's understanding of modern law enforcement capabilities. In a non-major city like that, you could do far worse than the robbers did in the movie, and provided you have a good getaway route that ends in boating over Rio Grande, it will take the law days if not weeks to get on your trail. They might never even identify you at all. Cameras aren't everywhere, and those that are on and useful are not networked to anything the law enforcement can access.
Most violent criminals today are extremely stupid, almost all of them are junkies and mentally ill on top of being completely uneducated ghetto trash. All of the smart criminals today go straight into fraud/cybercrime, because it's way safer and easier. Almost all "bank robberies" are some butthole giving the clerk the note that says "give me money" and receiving a bag with $10k plus free dye pack. Law enforcement reacted to this change, cutting funding to bank robber task forces and instead prioritizing drugs and fraud. So if somebody would want to go "High Incident Bandit" today, they would actually have MORE chances of getting away than back in the 90's and early 2000's, not less. The world has changed.
What response? Okay, these guys killed a bunch of people in this bank, took a hostage. Police arrived several minutes after they left. We don't have their car since they went through an a rural area with no cameras, and hid it somewhere in the woods. In a few days someone might stumble on it and report it. They'll spend that time driving for the border in a straight line.
>no *flight* to Mexico there.
Jeez, you must be moronic or underage. No one of then would be crossing any borders legally, ever in their life.
Mel Gibson's wife goes to his boss Don Johnson, who asks questions, and finds that no one has seen Vince Vaughn for days either. He finds the last time Vaughn's phone was active was in a rural area when he called his voicemail and found his girlfriend didn't want to marry him. He follows the cell tower activity back to the bank and, since he's smart, drops the mess on the FBI since the bank was probably FDIC and they're involved. FBI shows up at the last cell phone area and finds Gibson, Vaughn, Michael Jai White and the teller taking an eternal dirt nap. Probably see the cars in the lake too, so we've got Kretchman and the glove boys accounted for. Once they figure out who Jai White is, they're going to ask who he ran with and it won't take long knocking on doors to figure out Tori Kittles doesn't live where he used to. Now, how'd an ex con just out afford a nice new place? Didn't win the lottery so yeah, where'd the money come from? Kittle's character is dropping *all* of it on Kretchman and the glove boys to save his ass from the death penalty. But he's not living happily ever after.
Go ahead and refute *any* of that using ONLY what went on in the movie.
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I really did hate how he sent gibson's family solid gold bars in the mail instead of just cash.
I think you're overestimating black gloves and gray gloves. They're sociopaths, they don't care about the heat. They figure they will have the gold and be on the lam by the time the police connect the various crimes.
one of the better posts here. The movie is not a perfectly planned out heist made by a michael mann type autist but the intent is clear. Gloves boys think that because they have a plan and a monopoly on violence that they're untouchable. Which is not incorrect when they have the element of surprise but they fail to account for the fact that other people- including their own hired goons- can make plans and throw down.
Saw someone in the comments of that video say that they shot everywhere all over the store to make it look like jumpy amateurs as if jumpy amateurs could source MP7's and 4.6x30
Let's say your theoretical mission was to stick up a drug deal, so obviously you have to be ready to fight upwards of two men, armed with self-loading pistols, possibly even full-auto TEC-9's or Draco's. Of course there could be more than two, and accomplices could have rifles concealed in their bags, clothes or vehicles. Body armor is a possibility, as is the whole thing dragging out with police being involved.
So, having weighted your mission, with the benefit of decades of police training, patrol and detective experience you pack:
>x2 ballistic face masks from Wish.com
>x2 Level II surplus kevlar vests from mid-90's
>x1 Remington 700
>x1 Colt Python with loose ammo
>nothing else
I think doing nickle-and-dime violent crime with an ultra-rare and highly-restricted gun like an HK MP7A1 sounds like a great way to get caught very quickly lol.
>planning for potentially a full-auto draco
>level II soft vest
Yikes
>I think doing nickle-and-dime violent crime with an ultra-rare and highly-restricted gun like an HK MP7A1 sounds like a great way to get caught very quickly lol.
lol but
How do you know get the reference?
Mel Gibson succeed in taking the medal of dishonor for being the worst protagonist arms procurer from Benicio del Toro in The Way of the Gun. Great job! Other than that, fun movie. Also recommend Bone Tomahawk and Brawl in Block 99, same director.
The director is a israelite
logically, mad mel would've blasted the nog the second he got the drop on him
I appreciate the final showdown scene, especially how they corner them, ask them to surrender then ram the van and flip it. In most movies they would have rushed the flipped van but gibson and king of queens just drive back to a safe distance and post up.
Its sort of a dumb movie but i appreciate the thought put into the character's actions.
sniper/revolver is my loadout in CoD I don't know what your complaining about
Committing a bunch of murders during your bank heist preparation seems needlessly risky
They needed the money to fund the heist. Clearly ultraviolence was the only skill they posessed to procure said funding.
Especially using an MP7 lol. Imagine the detectives face when he finds 4.6 casings all over the scene.
I'm not making excuses, but it is what it is - even "right-leaning" movie directors usually only have a very cursory understanding of weapons and tactics. And protagonists' gear is usually dictated by what's available at the movie armory, not what makes sense.
From the level of intelligence, skill and funding the bank robbers had, it's clear that they should be wielding a MAC-11, a Draco and a 15-year old .40 S&W Glock with a switch. It makes zero sense for an Mp7 to be anywhere near the setting of that film.
Haven't seen the film but this shit looks like it's trying way too hard to be edgy and cool.
I feel like that's a really inefficient way to make money
When all you have is a hammer...
everything looks like.... knocking off drug low level drug dealers and convenience stores?
Is the spoiler at the end of the movie that they're just dumb larpers? Because they act like dumb larpers who want to get caught. The youtube comments on that video are fricking terrible. 'ooo such spooky ambiance evil bad guys oooo' BOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY SUCK
I think they try to showcase that everyone in the movie is a professional, or at least dangerous.
Really moronic. Slaughtering a bunch of people for petty cash is going to attract a shitload of attention from the authorities and media. Probably even more than what you would get if they had robbed a couple liquor stores.
When the bank robbery turned into a mass murder/missing persons case it kind of turned into a shitload of attention. Been a while since I saw the movie but I thought the whole point was the bank had gold.
The last man standing wouldn't have been standing long since cell phone tower pinging is a thing. Vehicles and the shallow graves would have been found, bodies ID'd and acquaintances figured out.
You have a CSI writer's understanding of modern law enforcement capabilities. In a non-major city like that, you could do far worse than the robbers did in the movie, and provided you have a good getaway route that ends in boating over Rio Grande, it will take the law days if not weeks to get on your trail. They might never even identify you at all. Cameras aren't everywhere, and those that are on and useful are not networked to anything the law enforcement can access.
Most violent criminals today are extremely stupid, almost all of them are junkies and mentally ill on top of being completely uneducated ghetto trash. All of the smart criminals today go straight into fraud/cybercrime, because it's way safer and easier. Almost all "bank robberies" are some butthole giving the clerk the note that says "give me money" and receiving a bag with $10k plus free dye pack. Law enforcement reacted to this change, cutting funding to bank robber task forces and instead prioritizing drugs and fraud. So if somebody would want to go "High Incident Bandit" today, they would actually have MORE chances of getting away than back in the 90's and early 2000's, not less. The world has changed.
Ok sure sport. Kill a bunch of people like Vogelman and the glove twins did during a bank heist and see if the FBI doesn't climb up your ass.
>Rio Grande
City looked like north easternish America so no flight to Mexico there.
> In a non-major city like that, you could do far worse than the robbers did in the movie
Pretty sure mass murder gets the full response these days. But whatever sport.
What response? Okay, these guys killed a bunch of people in this bank, took a hostage. Police arrived several minutes after they left. We don't have their car since they went through an a rural area with no cameras, and hid it somewhere in the woods. In a few days someone might stumble on it and report it. They'll spend that time driving for the border in a straight line.
>no *flight* to Mexico there.
Jeez, you must be moronic or underage. No one of then would be crossing any borders legally, ever in their life.
You didn't see the movie I see. OK homosexual, I'm going to spoil things for you.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6491178/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_dragged%2520a
Mel Gibson's wife goes to his boss Don Johnson, who asks questions, and finds that no one has seen Vince Vaughn for days either. He finds the last time Vaughn's phone was active was in a rural area when he called his voicemail and found his girlfriend didn't want to marry him. He follows the cell tower activity back to the bank and, since he's smart, drops the mess on the FBI since the bank was probably FDIC and they're involved. FBI shows up at the last cell phone area and finds Gibson, Vaughn, Michael Jai White and the teller taking an eternal dirt nap. Probably see the cars in the lake too, so we've got Kretchman and the glove boys accounted for. Once they figure out who Jai White is, they're going to ask who he ran with and it won't take long knocking on doors to figure out Tori Kittles doesn't live where he used to. Now, how'd an ex con just out afford a nice new place? Didn't win the lottery so yeah, where'd the money come from? Kittle's character is dropping *all* of it on Kretchman and the glove boys to save his ass from the death penalty. But he's not living happily ever after.
Go ahead and refute *any* of that using ONLY what went on in the movie.
I really did hate how he sent gibson's family solid gold bars in the mail instead of just cash.
I think you're overestimating black gloves and gray gloves. They're sociopaths, they don't care about the heat. They figure they will have the gold and be on the lam by the time the police connect the various crimes.
one of the better posts here. The movie is not a perfectly planned out heist made by a michael mann type autist but the intent is clear. Gloves boys think that because they have a plan and a monopoly on violence that they're untouchable. Which is not incorrect when they have the element of surprise but they fail to account for the fact that other people- including their own hired goons- can make plans and throw down.
Saw someone in the comments of that video say that they shot everywhere all over the store to make it look like jumpy amateurs as if jumpy amateurs could source MP7's and 4.6x30
The masked guys were fun.
Just watched it last night, we liked them the best. Just the silliness of them.
How many black guys have they gutted?
Wouldn't you like to know?