I like how they look. Utilitarian and power-tool like but kinda menacing and cyber-punk. Like a shitty gun from the future.
the post COVID models are trash and the gen 1 threaded barrel model will not function reliably with a suppressor no matter how it's mounted
at best I got four rounds off in a row, at worst I had to cycle it manually every time
How is it jamming exactly? The two most common problems is you didn't bend the feed lips out, or you are limp-wristing it. >"Limp-wristing!? How dare you!"
It's not your fault. Hi-Points have a stupid-high bore axis and a stupid heavy slide and not a super-good recoil spring. Other semi-autos are tolerant. You have to clamp down HARD on Hi-Points. Squeeze it until your hands start to shake, then relax until they stop shaking. Then try shooting it and see if that works.
having owned a carbine, I can tell you the mags are stupid tight out of the box.
mine had FTFs out the ass fully loaded unless downloaded 1-2 rounds until I loaded and unloaded them a shitload.
worked fine at lower capacity though
This is one of the reasons why Hi-Point survived when other cheapo-pistol makers died out when anti-gunners sued the shit out of the Ring of Fire. They're super-safe, they're low-capacity, they have built in forensic measures, they get ignored.
If you really hate the magazine safety, you can unscrew the grip on the right hand side and take it out. It's just a free-floating bar of metal. I keep it in, that way if there's a struggle for it, I can drop the magazine and it won't work. If I regain control of the pistol, I know I can stick my finger in the magwell and shoot the chambered round.
Main one is they hide the weapon serial number inside the gun somewhere so doesn't matter if you file it off on the outside. Hi-Points are also just weird pistols. So investigators can easily tell if a bullet or shell casing came from a Hi-Point. They have a 3 land/groove triangular rifling nobody else uses so any bullets are distinct. The firing pin doubles as an ejector and hits not-quite center of the primer. Also the magazine feed lips with the newer models scratch the casing leaving distinctive striations on the shell casing. There's probably other things too.
>hide the weapon serial number inside the gun somewhere
I've heard of other companies doing this, or using a special deep etching process so that even if it's filed off the serial can be found with some kind of special examination.
The rest sounds like hearsay, how so you know this?
anon, there's like three direct descendant companies of the original California ring of fire still operating. They were hardly stamped out.
The one suit was some moronic shit over a magazine safety and even then the company was carried on.
Not to mention all the operations of out florida these days like SCCY and diamondback.
All the ring of fire guns were and still are low capacity single stacks.
Hi point merely flourishes because for a long time, they were the best option at their price range.
No idea what that nonsense about forensics you're talking about is.
Anymore, with all the more modern offerings at $200 from other companies it's getting a bit narrower. They still have the bottom end of the PCC market locked down for what it's worth.
the post COVID models are trash and the gen 1 threaded barrel model will not function reliably with a suppressor no matter how it's mounted
at best I got four rounds off in a row, at worst I had to cycle it manually every time
had one of these as a first pistol when I was living shitty in nig town got it for $50 from k friend, it's not bad but there are a few problems. First issue is it's smooth on all surfaces so holding it or racking in wet conditions is difficult. Second Ftf can be an issue even if you take care of the feed ramp. third is you have to use a smol hammer and punch to field strip and clean.
other than those fixable/tolerable issues it wasn't bad trigger is a POS though. if you can find it for under $150 it's not bad
> t. owned, shot, and carried a stock C9 as first pistol for 4 months
Peenus weenus!
: DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
It's fine. The only thing to legitimately criticize is it's ugly as sin, but function > form.
I kinda like the snickers bar top end, shame about the grip though. Jungle american hands be built different
I like how they look. Utilitarian and power-tool like but kinda menacing and cyber-punk. Like a shitty gun from the future.
How is it jamming exactly? The two most common problems is you didn't bend the feed lips out, or you are limp-wristing it.
>"Limp-wristing!? How dare you!"
It's not your fault. Hi-Points have a stupid-high bore axis and a stupid heavy slide and not a super-good recoil spring. Other semi-autos are tolerant. You have to clamp down HARD on Hi-Points. Squeeze it until your hands start to shake, then relax until they stop shaking. Then try shooting it and see if that works.
t. Hi-Point expert
yes buddy it was definitely limp wristing and not the fact that it was completely failing to extract and feed
Holy frick are you a homosexual. you ignore his ENTIRE post and then become the embodiment of his overly sensitive limp wrist green text example.
I had the exact same problem however I wonder if it was because my suppressor had a booster, maybe not needed?
having owned a carbine, I can tell you the mags are stupid tight out of the box.
mine had FTFs out the ass fully loaded unless downloaded 1-2 rounds until I loaded and unloaded them a shitload.
worked fine at lower capacity though
>Company operates exclusively in the black, avoiding israeli tricks
>Lifetime warranty, transfers owner to owner
>American flags
>Yeet Cannon
Yeah, I'm thinkin I'm b(l)ack
based and moron pilled
would carry one rather than a glock or a 1911
now you can solve some problems homie
>magazine safety to prevent ND
This is one of the reasons why Hi-Point survived when other cheapo-pistol makers died out when anti-gunners sued the shit out of the Ring of Fire. They're super-safe, they're low-capacity, they have built in forensic measures, they get ignored.
If you really hate the magazine safety, you can unscrew the grip on the right hand side and take it out. It's just a free-floating bar of metal. I keep it in, that way if there's a struggle for it, I can drop the magazine and it won't work. If I regain control of the pistol, I know I can stick my finger in the magwell and shoot the chambered round.
interesting tactic for a struggle, can confirm it's easy to remove
>built in forensic measures
What do you mean by that?
It requires semen samples to be sent off to the ATF after each shot
Main one is they hide the weapon serial number inside the gun somewhere so doesn't matter if you file it off on the outside. Hi-Points are also just weird pistols. So investigators can easily tell if a bullet or shell casing came from a Hi-Point. They have a 3 land/groove triangular rifling nobody else uses so any bullets are distinct. The firing pin doubles as an ejector and hits not-quite center of the primer. Also the magazine feed lips with the newer models scratch the casing leaving distinctive striations on the shell casing. There's probably other things too.
>hide the weapon serial number inside the gun somewhere
I've heard of other companies doing this, or using a special deep etching process so that even if it's filed off the serial can be found with some kind of special examination.
The rest sounds like hearsay, how so you know this?
the feds do microdots on printers, having some sort of hidden unique identifier on guns sounds like a no-brainer, quite frankly.
The guy who designed them Tom Deeb, mentioned it in an interview I read somewhere. Also I own Hi-Points and their weird design features are obvious.
anon, there's like three direct descendant companies of the original California ring of fire still operating. They were hardly stamped out.
The one suit was some moronic shit over a magazine safety and even then the company was carried on.
Not to mention all the operations of out florida these days like SCCY and diamondback.
All the ring of fire guns were and still are low capacity single stacks.
Hi point merely flourishes because for a long time, they were the best option at their price range.
No idea what that nonsense about forensics you're talking about is.
Anymore, with all the more modern offerings at $200 from other companies it's getting a bit narrower. They still have the bottom end of the PCC market locked down for what it's worth.
the post COVID models are trash and the gen 1 threaded barrel model will not function reliably with a suppressor no matter how it's mounted
at best I got four rounds off in a row, at worst I had to cycle it manually every time
had one of these as a first pistol when I was living shitty in nig town got it for $50 from k friend, it's not bad but there are a few problems. First issue is it's smooth on all surfaces so holding it or racking in wet conditions is difficult. Second Ftf can be an issue even if you take care of the feed ramp. third is you have to use a smol hammer and punch to field strip and clean.
other than those fixable/tolerable issues it wasn't bad trigger is a POS though. if you can find it for under $150 it's not bad
> t. owned, shot, and carried a stock C9 as first pistol for 4 months
*wasn't bad,
Can I change the grips so it would better suit a left hander?