What do I think about the AMPV? Its replacing the m113 and I need to know if I think its based or cringe

What do I think about the AMPV? It’s replacing the m113 and I need to know if I think it’s based or cringe

  1. 1 month ago
    Rheinmetall shill

    should use Lynx in its APC variant as M113 replacement and Lynx OMFV in as M2 Bradley replacement

    • 1 month ago
      Rheinmetall shill
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Bradley will never be replaced. 80% of a vehicles effectiveness determines on if it looks cool. Skilled crew members will volunteer for a vehicle that looks cool. Lynx looks gay

      • 1 month ago
        Rheinmetall shill

        ok boomer

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I notice that you lacked an argument in your response. Go ahead, post the triangular barrel shroud on the ifv variant

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >APS
            >programmable airburst rounds
            >modular
            >optionally unmanned
            >rubber track
            >silent hybrid engine
            not saying it has to be the Lynx, but the OMFV candidates are clearly much better than the Bradley

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >doesn’t post a picture
              They look gay as fuck. None of that stuff actually matters

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                cope

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the basic bitch Lynx is an export model, idiot

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        so? Lynx in its APC configuration would be a good replacement for the M113, OMFV configuration would be good to replace the Bradley
        parts commonality would improve logistics and probably make the vehicle cheaper

        It’s almost a guarantee that OMFV will be the redback

        says who? Hanwha hasn't even presented the OMFV Redback yet

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It’s basically a sure thing. Oshkosh and hanwah are working together to produce the vehicles in the US. Redback is the new standard. Just ask Australia, Norway, and Poland

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oshkosh isn't winning OMFV.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Explain this picture to me as if I think the warrior was a good ifv

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oshkosh-Point Blank-Rheinmetall-GD-BAE OMFV proposals, left to right

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why are some colder

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Australia
            Lynx
            >Norway
            CV90
            >Poland
            Might buy the hull

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Lynx
          is a stripped down export chassis, Rheinmetall themselves said that the uprated models wouldn't differ much from other IFVs in terms of cost and complexity

          >parts commonality would improve logistics and probably make the vehicle cheaper
          except you're thinking in terms of Lynx commonality, when you should also be thinking US-wide commonality

          if they went with Lynx, American manufacturers would have to adopt German parts, and unless GDLS is really shit out of ideas and have to do the expensive R&D work from scratch, they'd be better off iterating from what's already designed and built in the USA

          as it stands, AMPV now has commonality with Bradley IFVs and that will be significant savings. OMFV can be the start of a new family. It's not likely that the US Army absolutely NEEDS their back-end APCs to have all the gubbins of the future OMFV chassis - this is one of the big criticisms of all those Boxer variants, some of which are clearly extraneous

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Agreed. And low rate initial production on the ampv is 450 vehicles. The US needs a lot of hulls and neither Germany nor South Korea can provide them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It’s almost a guarantee that OMFV will be the redback

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's a bit retarded tbh. It offers commonality with the Bradley for replacement parts, but the Bradley is being replaced. Should probably have just gone with the Ares, that way we would have common parts for MPF (Griffin II) and probably OMFV (Which is probably going to be Griffin III, regardless of what this autist posts)

      https://i.imgur.com/kkiN9Ud.jpg

      https://i.imgur.com/FQpdyOR.jpg

      ok boomer

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Bradley is being replaced but it isn’t going away. We have 8,000 of these things and there’s still a use for an armored box with a chaingun and ATGMs

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Vehicles don't stay functional by default, they need to be maintained. Brads are going to the boneyard and then are going to rot out of service, same as 15,000 M60s before them

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The US maintains its bone yards. Each vehicle will be drained off all fluids and prepared for the yard. If the need arises they would be restored in short order

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This is questionable at best

              >Repurposing existing chassis, existing spares, existing maintainers, existing supply lines = BAD
              >Move entire vehicle fleet and support infrastructure into unproven new model simultaneously, and trash all replaced vehicles = GOOD

              Looks like you gobbled a whole bucketful

              Existing maintainers cycle out after like 4 years and new ones need to be trained; there are no existing supply lines to where ever the next conflict is going to take place; that's not how any of this works. Are you retarded?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >what is institutional knowledge
                >what is parts manufacturing and supply chain management

                [...]
                Past that, hardware dedicated supply lines aren't a thing; it's a description of space on cargo ships and trucks

                I was referring to manufacturing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >but the Bradley is being replaced
        gee it's almost as if there'll be a lot of chassis and spares that can be repurposed in future, not to mention existing institutional know-how up and down the logistics chain how precisley to manage the AMPV

        He was referring to the Stryker you window licking nig nog. The Stryker was based on the LAV III, which is a Canadian produced and licensed version of of the Swiss made Piranha I.

        >He was referring to the Stryker you window licking nig nog
        so was that anon
        >you window licking nig nog

        Stryker DVH is miles away from LAV III and even further removed from Piranha. In fact now it is Piranha V which is based off Stryker.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Make it so you need to train maintainers on two chassis, establish supply lines for two sets of parts unnecessarily

          Did you eat paste in school?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Repurposing existing chassis, existing spares, existing maintainers, existing supply lines = BAD
            >Move entire vehicle fleet and support infrastructure into unproven new model simultaneously, and trash all replaced vehicles = GOOD

            Looks like you gobbled a whole bucketful

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This is questionable at best
              [...]
              Existing maintainers cycle out after like 4 years and new ones need to be trained; there are no existing supply lines to where ever the next conflict is going to take place; that's not how any of this works. Are you retarded?

              Past that, hardware dedicated supply lines aren't a thing; it's a description of space on cargo ships and trucks

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As you said, it's a replacement for the m113. It's a box on tracks that's supposed to dump troops and ammo from one place to the other, and hopefully survive small arms and light explosives.
    If it does that somewhat better than the m113, it's a success. Not necessarily based or cringe, just a neutral update to replace aging equipment. It's not gonna make or break any conflict, but it's nice to have something a bit newer.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You know what would be really cool. If they took the AMPV and added like a turret with a big gun maybe a 30mm canon. Yeah that would be sick, you know kind of like the Stryker dragoon but with more armor!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I love this unmanned turret. Throw on a javelin and you have your Bradley replacement

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Weak armor, also no one uses these because they are shit redesign ripped from the Swiss.

        https://i.imgur.com/mUiLk5P.jpg

        >doesn’t post a picture
        They look gay as fuck. None of that stuff actually matters

        Bradley is outdated as fuck, weak, slow and fat. It wasn't very notable in it's time at all.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Weak armor, also no one uses these because they are shit redesign ripped from the Swiss.
          4,000 have been produced and it’s not a ripoff because the US pays licensing fees. To speak on your other points it’s not weak and and it’s speed is sufficient.
          >wasn’t very notable in its time
          kek this is delicious cope. It was extremely successful in its time. Wracked up a ridiculous amount of enemy armor kills, more so than any infantry fighting vehicle ever produced. That’s something of note that your cope doesn’t protect against

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Find me one instance of a Bradley killing a tank. You’ve been fed propaganda

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/03/15/half-tank-half-taxi-bradley-proves-worth-in-battle/73f5d131-026e-486b-a988-319831dcb226/

              Find me a single other IFV with comparable tank kills to its name

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/03/15/half-tank-half-taxi-bradley-proves-worth-in-battle/73f5d131-026e-486b-a988-319831dcb226/

              Find me a single other IFV with comparable tank kills to its name

              >Weak armor, also no one uses these because they are shit redesign ripped from the Swiss.
              4,000 have been produced and it’s not a ripoff because the US pays licensing fees. To speak on your other points it’s not weak and and it’s speed is sufficient.
              >wasn’t very notable in its time
              kek this is delicious cope. It was extremely successful in its time. Wracked up a ridiculous amount of enemy armor kills, more so than any infantry fighting vehicle ever produced. That’s something of note that your cope doesn’t protect against

              It's Cringe you just same fagged so hard jn such a short period of time to get your point across. What a turbo autist.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Wut?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Cope

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Well his point got across. Bradley did very well in its time.

                Weak armor, also no one uses these because they are shit redesign ripped from the Swiss.
                [...]
                Bradley is outdated as fuck, weak, slow and fat. It wasn't very notable in it's time at all.

                BTFO

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Stryker rip off
            4000 for one user...it's shit no one wants it. Its weak as fuck its base armor is rated for 7.62ap.
            >Bradley
            Nope, if a BMP1/2 or any other IFV with an atgm replaced the Bradley in GW1 the result would be the same if not better. I'm sorry you had to find out like this, your fat top heavy weak ass IFV is dog shit.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >if a BMP1/2 or any other IFV with an atgm replaced the Bradley in GW1 the result would be the same if not better.
              >if
              Too bad for you it was the Bradley

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for conceding there isn't anything impressive about it at all and the job could have been done by literally any other vehicle with an atgm, even an unarmoured jeep with a kornet.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                And yet 30 years later here we are. ATGMs are mounted on plenty of IFVs and yet none of them have wracked up armor kills like the brad. Even to this day it’s living rent free inside of your head.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Goes around in circles with his own argument
                What medication are you on for the autism?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You’re the one that keeps copeing about “if things were different the Bradley wouldn’t be that good”. Things weren’t different though

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeh, nah cunt your just retarded and your pride is hurt. Sorry for upsetting your retarded view on the Bradley, its OK though they say never meet your hero's...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >cunt
                kek it’s warriortard. I’m sorry that you’ve had to endure decades of shame for the warrior.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/JX0ycUr.jpg

                Wut?

                If you gave the capabilities of the Bradley to a different vehicle that vehicle would have been just as successful as the Bradley!
                kek I hope your doing this for free

                Cope

                Well his point got across. Bradley did very well in its time. [...]
                BTFO

                Shamefull display of samefagging his own argument, poster count stayed the same the only thing that changed is the WiFi to mobile date to laptop.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Leave me out of your “who’s dick is smaller” contest

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                [...]
                [...]
                [...]
                Shamefull display of samefagging his own argument, poster count stayed the same the only thing that changed is the WiFi to mobile date to laptop.

                Look warriortard, I know you samefag, but you don't need to samefag every thread.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              If you gave the capabilities of the Bradley to a different vehicle that vehicle would have been just as successful as the Bradley!
              kek I hope your doing this for free

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >muh Brad capabilities
                >a tow
                Wow very impressive.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It’s based off the Pirhana. So is the LAV series that’s in use with multiple countries. Sorry you had to find out like this

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So what your saying is that the stryker is based of the Pirhana that is a Swiss vehicle? Just like I said earlier here

                Weak armor, also no one uses these because they are shit redesign ripped from the Swiss.
                [...]
                Bradley is outdated as fuck, weak, slow and fat. It wasn't very notable in it's time at all.

                interesting, do you usually have trouble maintaining a conversation?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I conceded it was a Swiss design here

                >Weak armor, also no one uses these because they are shit redesign ripped from the Swiss.
                4,000 have been produced and it’s not a ripoff because the US pays licensing fees. To speak on your other points it’s not weak and and it’s speed is sufficient.
                >wasn’t very notable in its time
                kek this is delicious cope. It was extremely successful in its time. Wracked up a ridiculous amount of enemy armor kills, more so than any infantry fighting vehicle ever produced. That’s something of note that your cope doesn’t protect against

                when I said the us still pays licensing fees for every unit they produce. I’m sorry you couldn’t keep up

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >if reality were different my argument would be correct
              This has to be a Russian

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >BMP1/2 or any other IFV with an atgm replaced the Bradley in GW1
              lol
              lmao even

              definitely vatnik/turdworlder

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He was referring to the Stryker you window licking nig nog. The Stryker was based on the LAV III, which is a Canadian produced and licensed version of of the Swiss made Piranha I.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Shut the fuck up Burton, There's a reason you aren't in charge of procurement

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Shit maybe they could name it after a previously serving general like Omar Bradley or something as well.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The AMPV unnecessarily pisses me off. It is a mildly upgraded Bradley chassis 40 years after the Brad was introduced. When I was first briefed on getting these we were told it would be a completely new "future-proof" design etc etc. Yet it's the same 40 year old suspension. At least give it rubber tracks or something. It is a hell of a lot better than an M113, but bottom line it's still a modernized Bradley without a turret. That's a concept we could have made 40 years ago and be on to an actual new iteration of both an IVF (OMPF) and an APC. Instead we will have a new IVF...maybe...and an APC that's basically a legacy design with some software updates.
    I hope I'm wrong because I haven't messed with them in person, but it still makes me mad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      looks like they opted not to make AMPV the future programme after all

      https://i.imgur.com/kbcVfEB.jpg

      What do I think about the AMPV? It’s replacing the m113 and I need to know if I think it’s based or cringe

      it's basically quality-of-life improvements over the M113 using an existing chassis to minimise costs and maximise commonality moving forward

      nothing wrong with that for your second-line APC, imho

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bradleys are cool but only on green and without that disgusting ERA and additional armor addons

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    National embarrassment

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