What did you spend on your kit? Is 10k really the minimum now to not be a pooron destined to fail?
What did you spend on your kit? Is 10k really the minimum now to not be a pooron destined to fail?
What did you spend on your kit? Is 10k really the minimum now to not be a pooron destined to fail?
tree-fiddy frick ya mudda
Threadly reminder that you will NEVER use your weapon in any scenario outside of range time, and the people who make these threads are paid shills trying to get you to consume their unnecessary crap. Be a good man to your family, friends, and community
Poor or pussy? Place your bets.
Love to see how enraged cope spenders get when called out. None of you can run a 5 minute mile or wear a size 32 pant.
Glowie
what is it about these threads that bring out the poorgay know-nothings?
He may be poor. But he's also right.
I've spent 15k at least in just gear
it's just a hobby bro, I think it's cool and like larping with the bois innawoods. 15k isnt even that crazy for a hobby, my little brother has dropped 20k on motorcycles alone this year.
>my parents are rich, it's not a big deal
>making a strawman
homie I'm single, make 70k a year, and live off lean meat and rice. Not my fault you are too moronic to get a basic IT job.
Spending 15k on something doesn’t even mean you’re well off. It’s called a credit card, tons of moronic Americans with no financial sense will spend thousands on fancy clothes or cars even when they have zero savings.
No one has problem with people who take it at face value
You enjoy playing with hear because it’s fun and neat
I can get behind you in that nothing wrong
It’s the homosexuals who are delusional and think they’re some warrior
While being a never served homosexual
Serving doesn't mean you're a warrior either. Just a golem servant. Nor does it guarantee you even see combat, let alone something worth being a warrior for.
I don’t know what world you’re living in, but 15-20k in three months is pretty crazy. No one on this site lives in reality.
Loser. You should grow some thick skin and join a snob group. Plenty of guys who have had to defend their loved ones, some who've even made the headlines. Also you act like you can't be a good man to your people and also larp on some weekends. You are a seethy coping brokefrick and max jelly. Have you tried simply being a good man to your family friends and community and seeing if it improves your lot in life to where you can afford things without going into debt
>deliberately join a snob group
Who does this?
>Plenty of guys who have had to defend their loved ones
Yeah, no. People who defend themselves do so with bare minimum gear.
No one is hearing their door being kicked in and putting on a full kit.
Say you don't live next to Russia without saying you don't live next to Russia
200 eurobucks for used plate carrier
100 for cheap airsoft tier mag pouches and other (mostly used) assorted vest bits
350 for a good tourniquet and first aid kit
400 for discounted (unused) french ceramic rifle plates
500 for used ukrainian helmet (intact, imported pre-war)
1700 for rifle (could've gotten a usable AK for a third of that but I'd rather have something I can customise)
150 for earpro
300-ish for accessories (incl. free ballistic glasses found at range, not sought after by owner)
about 3700 total
2000-3000 for ammo annually (I don't feel like I shoot that much but when you do it weekly, it adds up)
Tell me you are a b***h without telling me you are a b***h
Why didn’t you drive to Ukraine already and do it for real instead of pretending
Larping homosexual
Not that anon, but you're a gigantic homosexual. Possibly even homosexual.
That is you can say because that comment hit close to home for you
>russia is talking itself up to invade your country
Do you
>run off to fight in some foreign country far away
or
>prepare, raise awareness & train your fellow countrymen
Just say you are afraid
It’s ok anon
*Threadly reminder that you will NEVER use your weapon in any scenario outside of range time, hunting, concealed carry or home invasion, and the people who make these threads are paid shills trying to get you to consume their unnecessary crap. Be a good man to your family, friends, and community
FIFY
bump
>imagine not going a poaching when the raiders come thinking you havent booby trapped a 1/4 mile in every direction using grimtooths traps and EVERY ragnar benson book ever written
You can really tell by how correct you are by the amount of seething (You)s.
People don't complain about facts, they complain about slander
>you will NEVER use your weapon in any scenario outside of range time
Shh! We've got to keep the goyim thinking that CW2 is just months away so that they can keep buying more of our high profit margin products. Don't you go ruining it for everybody!
110% correct. A $500 PSA AR-15 (and a LOT of training) gets you 98% of the way to being decently prepared. The industry is trying to get you to spend thousands on acquiring esoteric, nuanced elements of preparation and "force multipliers" that are questionable in how significant of a multiplier they are.
If you can only afford a $500 PSA then you can’t afford training and enough ammo to git gud
Unless you are saving the money from the rifle to buy the ammo. The best training is basic marksmanship courses and competition, and both those are cheap.
Add a 300 dollar quest 2 and 20 dollars for contractors
Plenty of rich guys that don’t want to waste money on guns/gear. I know a literal millionaire whose edc is a G2C. Just because you have money doesn’t mean you need to throw it away on a bunch of unnecessary shit.
>a literal millionaire
If you aren't a literal millionaire, what are you even doing? What are you protecting? How can you not work on that first before fricking around wasting resources.
I was agreeing with you anon, wasting money on NVGs, plate carriers, $300 pants, etc. is dumb if you’re still paying rent.
He probably doesn’t “waste money” on practice either
>whynotboth.exe
I will never understand the morons who think gear and skills are mutually exclusive
No don't you know you need to join le mid tier snobs and put the latest accessories on a Credova so you can do a "flex off" and impress strangers on Instagram and use the word poor like it's 2019 while you swim in debt to enjoy guns?
Why can there not be a balance? A good man is not a harmless man. We live in a society.
The system we live in is incredibly fragile. Our infrastructure barely maintains us and the second these people can't cash in their goodboy points to buy starbies and magdonal they will eat each other alive. Covid was a nothingburger and we saw how people lost their fricking minds cleaning out the grocery stores. I was an EMT for several years, and I've been a city cop for longer now. I interact with the general public daily. Most of these people live on a tightrope with no second thought as to how they would eat if our system was even momentarily disrupted. Not to mention the scumbags that are just waiting for an opportunity to act like scum.
I have insurance on my car not because I believe I'll be involved in a wreck, but because I know it is a possibility. I'd rather be a warrior in a garden than a gardener at war. Family and community IS important, because it's very unlikely anyone can survive on their own. But understand that the likelihood of any government agency coming to save you in those situations is slim to none.
>i was and emt and now im a cop so i think i know a thing or two about people
No, you know about people on their worst days. You probly chose to manually become jaded after a junkie hit you after you narcanned them
>I'd rather be a warrior in a garden than a gardener at war.
this is such a cringe saying. Being competent with a pistol and CCing does not make someone a warrior, nor is it some elite skill you need to sacrifice significant money or time into.
Cool you have a gun, now stfu and get on with your life.
Im a warrior and im a sniper
(me)
>I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
Get's the same point across without making you sound like a douchebag who's full of himself.
I'm Jose. I do the gardens.
I am not a warrior
I am just more trouble then it’s worth
And that keeps the banger at bay
>cringe
Is it wrong though? The point is you can't control the circumstances you find yourself in but you can control your response. If you are a warrior then you are prepared whether in a garden or a battlefield.
This is the realest thing in this thread. The world lost its shit over a virus that had a 0.01% death rate. Imagine how quick society would burn its self to the ground if a virus came out that had a 10% fatality rate.
>0.01 death rate
Multiply that by the entire world population and you'll have millions dead, which the current global COVID death rate certainly confirms. This is the 0.01% you don't want to be a part of
Unironically this, all these people who blow 10's of thousands of dollars on gear to larp with are complete losers and are just going to be a loot drop for the hoodlum that gets the jump on them. Gardening, hunting, and foraging skills are going to be far more useful than any Novetske or team wendies. And they all engage in mass consumerism so they can play dress up.
>getting mad about rich people buying stupid shit
>fantasizing about them dying because you're so mad
jesus dude get a fricking grip
Not really about that
People buy expensive guns all the time and no one has a problem with that
Something is different about this
Before it was considered extremely cringe and you were called a mall ninja
It’s because they are pretending to be something they are not.
No one fricking bats a eye for someone with like 60k m60
No one calls him a Vietnam larper
Because he is not
homosexual who post like they some fricking warriors should ashamed
Some men ruined their lives or lost their lives for the real thing
And these homosexuals are here pretending to be them
It’s infuriating to anyone who was actually involved in that world
>homosexual who post like they some fricking warriors should ashamed
moron incapable of speaking English
>Some men ruined their lives or lost their lives for the real thing
And these homosexuals are here pretending to be them
It’s infuriating to anyone who was actually involved in that world
Seethe homosexual, I'll cum on a veterans grave
Why don’t you clean the cheetoh dust from you keyboard fatty
Why don't you suck me off for being a veteran?
My man, those are not rich people. Rich people buy boutique european break actions that cost more than your house. They also don’t play soldier, they have people who do that for them.
The people posing with some 10s of thousands worth of gear are marginally better off than poorgays but consider themselves some kind of Rockefeller. They are pathetic.
there is nothing wrong with it if its a hobby you enjoy. What is ultra-cringe is
>no no I am prepared, this is serious.
Not him but its more the behavior than anything. A2Grip and Ash are the peak embodiment of it, you're playing dressup in the woods with friends. There is nothing wrong with it per se (it is kinda childish) but have some perspective.
> just going to be a loot drop for the hoodlum that gets the jump on them
Cope
>loot drop
I suppose everybody else will get dropped, just without any loot to show for it. I will never understand the morons that take pride in being underequipped and unprepared. Nor the people who think that survivalism and soldiery are mutually exclusive. But I can only encourage it because that will make those people easier to deal with.
true if you have not used your shit in Ukraine by now it is for collecting dust
I hope I never have to. I don't buy fire extinguishers hoping for a fire. But I do have to be prepared to shoot people, because that will always remain a possibility just as fire is.
This is true. Autists are out in full force defending their expensive game of dress up
Larperators are no different from Onions boys dumping cash on Funkopops and Playstation "exclusives". The whole gun and tactical industry is a joke.
This.
They hated him because he told them the truth.
Fail at what? If you want to kill enlisted the asiatics and dune coons did fine with WW1 era bolt guns.
If you want to become a "gun guy" on social media you are going to need a lot more than 10k.
Look at the loss ratio they suffered against those grunts.
And you think you are going to do better?
If you want to hurt the state without dying learn to produce explosives, if you want to be like the action movies and shoot at the worlds largest military you are going to die.
>If you want to hurt the state without dying learn to produce explosives
???
>Kit for what ?
cosplaying apparently.
>???
These threads are always "I need the best for when I fight the state", historically bombing is way more effective and less likely to get you killed than small arms.
It's also perfectly legal for me to say that Erythritol TetraNitrate is amazing at is can function as a primary when sensitized with aluminium or as a high V-det secondanry when cast.
You can even oxygen balance it by mixing in nitroglycerin and end up with a higher v-det and R.E. factor than any military explosives.
>a lot more than 10k
>good rifle with eotek and laser: 2.5k
>suppressor: 1k
>helmet: 600
>pc: 300
>NV (optional): 3k
>"Neccessary" 4k, optional about 6-9k
Okay dude
let me guess, recently uploaded hop video?
ah gee, look at that!
i love how he dumps on the MRO but willingly uses one during a competitive night shoot
>using shit gear and doing decent
Will be thay much better with good gear.
Idk. Him and his homosexual group are weird
The entire point of Forgotten Weapons's organised events is to roll up with something moronic. Hop is so autistic that the best he could do was take a 14.5 AR with an MRO on it.
>new hop video
I'm mostly impressed that Ian had duals, just goes to show that everyone and their brother is getting nods these days. it is skyrocketing in popularity.
>guntoober has night vision
>this means everyone does
not memeing, but the internet and e-celebs aren't real life.
he never struck me as a nods guy, hes more of an antique shooter so yes it absolutely means something
he's done matches with modern guns for a while
and again, a guy autistic enough about guns to have a youtube channel talking about antiques is probably going to be interested in other stuff besides what he talks about on the channel and he's still not going to be representative of the gun owning population.
>he never struck me as a nods guy, hes more of an antique shooter so yes it absolutely means something
He literally organized the NVG match, you silly frick.
>inb4 he stole it from karl
More like
>be influencer
>sell stuff
Eventually after 20 years people might understand the web2.0 business model.
main character syndrome
Don't tell me you're a side character in your own life, man
Kit for what ? Playing pretend like a little kid ?, if you’re just playing pretend operator guy then why not buy cheap gear ? Why on earth would you spend 10k on “kit” ???? Just buy stuff that looks cool to you and go from there. DO NOT BUY $300 operator/special forces guy pants that’s such a stupid ass waste of money. No sorry you don’t need a T2, no you aren’t being deployed to Afghanistan or Ukraine, you don’t need a $800 optic, the holosun or sig cheap optics are literally just as good. If you wanna be an operator so bad that you’re willing to spend 10k on bags and parts and other items of “kit” then just join the fricking army or something but that’s also not an option because you are a gutless coward.
Angry poors ITT. Your kit is not ‘just as good’, but then you've never experienced good.
If you are loaded and seriously think you are going to war with the gubment start a "gold retrieval" company that gets gold from old phones / motherboards / cpus.
This will allow you to buy a shit of nitric and sulfuric acid without setting off any alarms.
Poor have killed more than you ever will homosexual
>If you wanna be an operator so bad that you’re willing to spend 10k on bags and parts and other items of “kit” then just join the fricking army or something but that’s also not an option because you are a gutless coward.
You're not gonna be able to afford 10k on bags and kit if you're in the army lol
No shit that’s why all the gucci shit gets issued to you when you pass RASP or SFAS. Hell even the RFI issued gear is not that bad for the whole zero dollars you pay
>space before question mark
He thinks an $800 optic is expensive! I bet you complain about the price of gas’s too.
>If you wanna be an operator so bad that you’re willing to spend 10k on bags and parts and other items of “kit” then just join the fricking army or something but that’s also not an option because you are a gutless coward.
If you have 10k and in shape enough to do larp patrols
Why didn’t you just spend that to go over seas to do it for real.
I don’t get why anyone would pay to play pretend
Less chance of getting eviscerated by a flying pineaple in 4K for your entire family to enjoy.
I still can't fathom how so many people were tricked into spending thousands of dollars on gear. I can see how hunters were tricked into military grade clothing or anything with tactical on it. There was a thread not to long ago recommending 130 dollar flashlights. How do people not see that's a scam mark up?
>b-but my life depends on it
>a $30 torch will cost me my life but a $200 torch will save it
People are stupid and when you convince them their life depends on having the best they'll spend more than they can afford.
The funniest part is they'll then get in a 30yo F-150 with rusted through chassis rails and do 70 on the freeway without ever understanding statistics.
>torch
BONG SPOTTED
REMOVE
The tactical gear community is the man equivalent of women buying tens of thousands of dollars worth of makeup, dresses, and accessories that they use once a month at max to simply justify owning it. Most of the time they are apartment dwellers and don't even have a house. I got so many coping replies from rentoids last time I pointed that out.
It doesn't have to be that deep, Anon. I just like how military shit looks, I'm under no illusions that it's anything more than PrepHole.
Trying waaaaaaaaay too hard
I have a BCM upper on a PSA lower with a milspec dot and a milspec magnifier. It has a decent light and an okay sling.
This is all the law abiding citizen requires.
>c...cuck!
My neighbor is a SWAT officer. He runs 20 round mags in his rifle during raids and carries one spare rifle and one spare pistol mag. He removed his back plate and only uses nods during training exercises that require then.
Y'all need to get to grips with what irl is like.
>He runs 20 round mags in his rifle during raids
Why though?
Tacticool:
>Cause I can get prone lower and hold angles tighter since my pistol grip is the lowest point of contact
Reality:
>Bean counters can't count and armorer is a lazy homosexual and decided to use 20 round mags cause 5.56 ammo comes in boxes of 20.
They need to fire whoever is in charge of selecting equipment. What rifle did they issue him?
Not that anon with the SWAT neighbor, but I used to work at a County Sheriff's Department and currently am a non certified bacon. Shit like this happens a lot. A big reason why lots of departments used S&W M&P-15s was because S&W was literally whoring them out at cost if departments switched to M&P pistols. Other things I've experienced personally though:
>seen them spend money on new laptops that they never issued out.
>spend money to issue Mossberg 930s to replace old Police Magnums, yet plug them to only be 4+1 (cause shells come in boxes of 5)
>spend money on buying new motorola radios yet not programming them to the existing kenwood handsets then b***hing at Motorola about the communication breakdowns
>Buy a ton of pallets of .40 for new officers while making a new requirement for them to provide their own sidearms to be optics ready and in 9mm only.
>Buy and set up new report database servers + programs, yet still use an instance of virtual machines that have international country codes of countries that don't exist - such as Rhodesia, South Yemen, South Vietnam, and Yugoslavia.
>Buy a new fleet of police cruisers and have them sit at motorpool because they got in an argument with the Cooper dealer for off road tires for not even the same units.
Its a mess from top down, but it still holds itself together.
Damn, and I was mad at my agency for getting MROs instead of literally any Aimpoint model.
Lazy:
Neighbor is a lazy frick too and a 20 round mag in the rifle reduces weight when hes just gonna be standing around doing nothing with it for hours at a time.
>no bro hop said you need a...
>you cant possibly do shit irl and not need a....
imma be honest, outside if of a combat zone, I'd have zero issues choosing to run with a 20 round mag. Particularly in SWAT rifle where you're mostly just going to be sitting around for hours on end waiting to see if you're going into a house with a dozen other guys also armed with AR's, wearing rifle plates, and carrying ballistic shield up front all to take care of one barricaded I HATE THE ANTICHRIST type. It's not my choice, but I'd have zero issues with anyone choosing to go with that option if desired.
SWAT has entirely different mission requirements to what you or I need, dudes job is to go into a building with 15 other guys and cover every exit possible, then potentially have to use deadly force against one or two possible suspects in a raid. I don't under credit the difficulty or stress of the job, I'm saying that it doesn't need the excess of equipment that we might possibly need. SWAT isn't worried about dealing with mobs, SWAT isn't worried about being cut off from food, SWAT isn't worried about being taken by surprise organized forces, SWAT isn't worried about sleeping in the woods. Using SWAT for any frame of reference is bound to leave holes because as it turns out you won't get the advantage and you will be left alone to defend yourself when you feel the heat around the corner
>This is all the law abiding citizen requires
I'm glad you feel that way anon, more power too you that you trust the government to do no wrong, unfortunately your wrong anyways because your shitty rifle won't stop arterial bleeds and will run out of ammo when you have to do anything other than engage a stray crackhead. For pure Home defense that's probably all you'll need for the most part but its nothing when you have to deal with armed bad guys wanting to murder you, steal your belongs, and rape your wife.
Owning equipment you can use in your environment increases your flexibility a lot, you don't need to spend 10k mind you, but don't be so ignorant to the fact that your body needs food and water, your blood needs to stay inside of you, and your gun needs bullets to make your problems disappear
You shouldn't be worrying about those things either you lunatic.
Because a 20 round mag is smaller and less likely to snag on things and the probability of getting into a gunfight that requires more than 80 rounds is near zero. Save weight for stuff you need and will likely use, like flash-bangs or extra cuffs.
What if it gets snagged!?
And what if the core of the earth were made of cheese?
>What if your weapon gets snagged when you need it
Seriously?
If you think that you're much more likely to get your weapon snagged by using a 30rd vs a 20rd magazine that it outweighs the benefit of having another 10 rounds ready to go at an instant you are a ridiculous person.
It's a tradeoff dipshit. You're choosing making your weapon easier to handle, the trade off is less ammo but it's worth it because the probability of you needing 30 rounds in a defensive shooting is near zero. And even if you expend all your ammo, o gee, another mag right there ready to go!
Dudes been a cop for like 20 years and on SWAT for 15 of them. I place value on his judgment. Because unlike us, his decision has irl consequences on the daily.
>the probability of you needing 30 rounds in a defensive shooting is near zero
You're talking about going on raids moron. That's not a defensive shooting. Real life isn't Cod where you min max your attachments to increase your ADS speed. Grow up, and stop worshipping your old moron cop neighbor.
What likely situation is going to occur wherein you need 30 rounds?
Rittenhouse fired <10.
>What likely situation is going to occur wherein you need 30 rounds
If I was a SWAT member going on raids against armed criminals. As a citizen using a 30 round magazine instead of a 20 for some fake illusory advantage is moronic logic, why not just go for a 10 round magazine with this thinking? Lastly who the frick is using an AR15 as their go to defensive firearm instead of a pistol that they can actually carry wherever they go?
Because 20 is the most gain for the least tradeoff.
>Why would I use a rifle and not a pistol
Because we're talking about rifles.
I think you're too moronic to own guns.
>Pissy little non-response.
You're a moronic homosexual incapable of logic, you should never share your thoughts about firearms again.
Probably me in a certain situation that has happened before
My neighbor had beef with a notoriously hated street gang
The cowards came to my neighbors house trying to intimidate him
Probably some of the mob was carrying a gun idk they ran and never used it like the b***hes they are
But my neighbors got a shotgun out and fired into their general direction
They ran away
But that is situation that a ar with at least a 20 round mag will be a better option
The intimidation factor works well on a pack of wild chimps
And expanding on this
The purpose of guntubers is to sell you shit so of course they are constantly creating the impression that you "need" x, y or z else their videos would be
>How to build a basic AR
>How to build a battle belt
>Fin
Because irl based on shit that is likely to happen, and not shit that may happen, a rifle and a spare or two and something to hold them is basically all you need to be better prepared than 99% of the population or more than prepared for any likely issue you will ever face.
If it's larp it's larp and there is nothing wrong with that. But don't conflate sensible preparedness with larp.
>cops are dumb fudds
I know
>Fudd
I don't think you know what that word means.
>I use 20 round steel mags, they're more reliable than 30rds, I wouldnt trust my life to a plastic mag and 30rds will get me caught in a doorway
>Ha! I'll get him with something he didn't say!
I get it issued to me for free. Seriously though I cannot justify spending all this money on gear you’re too afraid to get scratched up and dirty and you will NEVER use outside of playing pretend in the woods.
Of course you can use gear IRL, whenever you need to carry things too big for your pockets. You don't need to sign your ass off to the government just to do so.
The rifle + an old gas mask bag that I keep the mags in + a handful of earplugs I stole from work
Man, even my most elaborate cringe dressup larp costume is only like a couple hundred bucks tops
>stalker cosplayer
>couple hundred bucks
yeah.
Better than being a Garandthumb cosplayer for 10000 bucks lol
GT has a actual closet of Larp gear and dont lie if thats not the frickin dream.
As an active military man, I can say, having been on combat duty, that equipment plays a very important role. The main thing is not to be afraid to screw him up. Unfortunately, I can’t afford a lot of things and sometimes this greatly affects the completion of the task. But when you're flying along the landing and the damn knee pad comes off while crawling, it's very annoying (
Which military?
>ITT people that b***h about the gear of others are the same ones that b***h about red dots on pistols.
I don't care for them, it's harder to find a good holster and the aperture is small, so you have to line up the sights anyway. I'm actually slower with an optic than I am with irons, although I acknowledge that's probably just a skill issue.
>What did you spend on your kit?
Nothing
Nice tummy. What's your necklace?
חי
Why?
Cause
R u a israelite?
No, I'm a goy who wears Hebrew israeliteelry and has a Star of David tattoo on his bicep
And is in a thread complaining about spending a lot of money
Why would you do that? Do you just like israelites?
Failure to pick up on sarcasm is a strong indicator of autism
Ah, he's one of those israeli Christians. Intredastingu.
You mean a protestant?
How do you juggle the fact that your scriptures tell you that you're God's chosen and superior, yet the entire western world, from the computer you're using and the firearms technology you enjoy, comes from the white goyim you hate? Do you really think God just chose one of the ugliest people at random and decided to throw the smarter, taller, more artistic, less perverse, and better looking people under the bus? On second thought, nevermind, the religion makes sense.
Well, God kinda let his son get nailed to wood and clearly likes cherished chosen things as tribute... Makes ya think.
Whites didn't even invent guns
Why would anyone willingly endanger themselves like that?
Anon, Jesus Christ is the messiah spoken of by the prophets.
Why would any goy care who the israelites prophecy and worship? Stop israelitelarping, anon.
Would
Show bussy
could I play with it a little?
>spening 10k on a kit that's ridiculous
>you don't need all that gear, it's basically costly
>why do you need a high powered assult rifle? It's not like you'll ever use it except for larping
>join the military if you want to have guns a gear you coward
Reminder that you are arguing with anti gun ukraine tourists from pol.
NEEDING 10k in gear is the moronic part, if you have the money I couldn't care less if you drop $400k on a transferable M249.
Nobody ITT is saying you shouldn't be allowed to waste your money on it if you want to, merely that to do so is fricking moronic idea for almost anyone that isn't getting issued the stuff for free anyway.
>getting issued the stuff for free anyway
I have bad news civvie bro
moron cord it to your body if you're too stupid to keep up with it.
Define kit you dum dum
Is sex with Hop gay?
It'd be gay not to
Smashing bussy isn't gay, being a bottom is.
Nah, it’s pretty gay.
It’s even gayer to not admit that it’s gay
Is that actually Hop?
No.
It looks just like him
Stop posting this, its hon as frick
It's Hop. Are you cute btw?
zigger logic
Only if you're a woman
Hope is a lesbian. You can't have sex with her.
Hop is my boyfriend
I don't pay anything, tax payers pay for me
If dropping 10k on gear means turning into a smug "my shit don't stink" snob like some individuals in here then I'm happy being a poorgay
you will never be in a situation where a plate carrier and/or armor will change the short term outcome.
if you want to buy your boogsuit you may as well go big because all you'll do is play dress up in it and go to cons.
Nah buy shit on black Friday 4th of July and look for ebay milsurp. He'll the taps rig was 12 bucks recently. Jpc 2.0 is cheap, you can get plates and a carrier for sub 500 as a bundle. The nod will be the big ticket item but you can still score a pvs 14 gen 3 for 2k ish. Bump helmet and wham you're pretty well kitted up. You said gear not guns
I've only tallied up the gatpiece - haven't bothered to add up the whole fighting kit yet.
>elcan and acro
theres yer problem
You paid $235 dollars for an 11.5” Brazilian butt lift?
Where?
Technically it's a Guatemalan Butt Lift
The only other hobby I know where people complain about how much other people spend on it are videogames. And universally it's some spastic third worlder with a gaming laptop that runs at nuclear meltdown levels of heat seething about Billy and his $1,300 computer. So I can only assume the same is true about guns and gear. Imagine if car culture had this level of ubiquitous homosexualry and everyone online rallied together to insist that their Ford Focus was JUST AS GOOD and YOU DONT NEED MORE THAN THAT because some dude owns a C7 Corvette.
Yeah, but there really is a plateau when it comes to gear, and after that you're just flushing money down the toilet. Your entire loadout should be under $6k if you want NODs and $2.5k if you don't. That's including the rifle.
Yeah of course you can reach a point where you're just blowing money. The same is true for any hobby. If they're gay about it then they deserve to be bullied but if it's just for fun I don't see the problem.
There is no plateau if you use it at the limit. Example, optic glass. Vortex diamondback class stuff is just as good at a sunny outdoor range at 1 pm. It is not when in front of NV or at the last minutes of legal light when the deer are coming out. That's when the $2500 Nightforce shows where some of that money went.
Nothing wrong being a poorgay shooting tannerite and trash at the sighting in range with dad's 30-30 btw. You're probably having more fun too, fren. 🙂
Most people train for realistic encounters, and that's a Black person at close distances trying to mug you or in a home invasion. Not an antifa ninja at dusk/dawn wearing a ghillie.
It's just thinly veiled anti gun posters. I'm active in the ADV community and people will drop 20k on a bike and gear for like one trip, no one bats an eye.
A rifle from 2014 isn't vastly btfo in performance by a rifle from 2024 the same way a computer from 2014 vs a computer for 2024 is.
>Imagine if car culture had this level of ubiquitous homosexualry
try browsing PrepHole
I know they're like that on PrepHole but I wouldn't consider that ubiquitous. It's fairly contained to that board.
visit PrepHole, PrepHole, PrepHole, PrepHole, PrepHole, or even PrepHole
this shit is rampant
It's the opposite in my case. Not a rich gay (and I'm willing to bet no one else is here either), but definitely not a poorgay, I can comfortably buy a lot of the gun stuff I've purchased. And looking back at it... Most of it sits in the safe and ultimately it's a waste of money if it's doing that. What I really use is just my 9mm PCC for USPSA competitions, and as a bedside gun, my duty Pistol (also for competitions and work), and my CCW pistol. I'm having a hard time selling my tacticool stuff as it seems that the gun community is moving away from all that LARPER fear porn.
It just has no practical function for me. If I really was going to fight the government it'd be with a precision rifle, assassinations, bombs, maybe sneaking in a handgun somewhere at some point. I can't imagine a realistic scenario where I'm playing soldier with nods, kevlar helm, plates, etc, and this is coming from someone who was an 0311. I just don't have the logistics, numbers, or community for that, and as far as I know, no one else does because I've seen the sorry state of militias. Fighting the government in a conventional manner is gonna be easy pickings for them.
If I sell all that tacticool bullshit I can get closer to my ultimate goal which is to move to a rural area and become as self sufficient as possible. That money will be better spent on putting a well on my property.
>I'm having a hard time selling my tacticool stuff as it seems that the gun community is moving away from all that LARPER fear porn.
the world is healing bros
Can't wait for stuff like quality matebas, quality iron sighted bolt actions, deep blue finishes, and grade 4 wood to make a comeback when people realize guns are mostly for fun and that they'll never fight a tactical zombie russian alien invasion
At some point
Why didn’t you just sign on the doted line or hop on a plane to do it for real
$4,000 night vision
Or $600 on a drone grenade
I know what I'll be spending my money on. Nice night vision you got there, after my drone has turned you into burger.
Nice drone you got their, after my $1 bullet has turned your head into mush. Drone pilots fear the thermal scope bush sniper
Walking cannon fodder
I just use what's issued. Only a moron pays for his own gear.
Walking loot drop
Less than 6k total roughly 5k going to the rifle and NVGs, rest of the gear is cheap surp. Hell my NVGs are cheap surp ANVIS tubes in surp PVS-14 housings, set me back less than 2400 between the both of them. I have no interest in body armor or a ballistic helmet when it'll never get used and I'm content with my toobs even though I know fancier ones exist. The only thing I've really considered reinvesting in is the LAM (somoqueer is shit, should've known better) and maybe a lighter and more modular vest to replace my old SADF battle jacket
>2400 for an OMNI MX10160 in a surplus PVS14 housing kit
Assuming you purchased this more than 6 months ago you ripped yourself off by a margin of 400~600 bucks.
One was bought years ago for ~800, the other was closer to 15 and I got it a little less than 4 months ago
The last rifle I built I kept a spreadsheet of every piece and cost. With can it came to just over $5k. It doesn't seem like it when you hold it tbhfam
Go shoot heroin and watch a 4 hour video essay about SCP, you crick gypsy
and you inbreds are so twisted you have your own genetic diseases.
Rifle, pistol, optics, carrier, helmet, NV, LBE, Pouches, Radio, books, and TOPOs... about $6000. Most of my shit fell off of a truck and lots of the books I just used my laser printer to print out the PDFs. If I include ammo and specialized gear like my Savage M10, then its easily 12K plus. Most of my shit was bought piecemeal over 3 years with a poorgay 40k a year salary so no excuse poorgay Black folk.
1.2k, because that's what I needed to get a bicycle with a 2 stroke engine, a trailer for said bike, and enough food/gas to get me to [location] in my emergency plan. I have a colt M&P-15 that I payed like 450 for a few years ago with irons and a few mags that I top with Winchester green tip.
incredibly based, except for the green tip. By far the worst possible round you could choose for nearly anything.
I don't think you understand how poor I am bro it was 35 cents a round
anything besides your gun and a few mags is money that would be better spent on ammo and targets
can anyone ITT honestly tell me Hop's mouth has never been fricked, not even once?
i refuse to believe it.
WEEGEEEEE
I spent $109 on a nugget and spam can combo deal in highschool and my company gibs me a new Carhartt every thanksgiving. I literally need nothing more other than cheap vodka and dudeweedlmao.
Pretty soon they'll be charging $110
Can't wait for 110
I sneed what you did there.
All I have is a Smersh, SKS and enough canned beans to allow me to survive the Zone for a few days until scavs (Black folk) kill me. I hope I die in the first few weeks but I want to clap a homosexual wearing 10k in Crye while I cheeki breeki behind him.
>thin upper lip
>diminished philtrum
Does he know? Should we tell him?
I just now saw the filename lmfao
Not only is that very obviously not a woman, I couldn't even tell that ugly homosexual was trying to look like one. Anyone who says that hobgoblin is feminine is a troon trying to convince himself that the entire movement isn't just a pathetic joke.
Did you not see?
I saw some homosexual moron posting moronic homosexual shit and ignored it
I don't know who this youtuber is because I'm not 15 years old
Why do you sound so mad? Do you think putting on this aloof front will make you seem more interesting? Why post like this if not because you're an attention seeking teen?
Plenty of Tallies killed fully kitted NATO troops with a rusty AK their uncle pulled off a dead commie in the 80s. Better kit makes you more dangerous, but nobody is immune to bullets.
You didn't do shit, you're just some homosexual noguns in a rented apartment. Taking credit for shit that people you aren't even descended from is Black person-tier, there's no difference between you and a Black person saying his grandpa built the pyramids. The here and now is what matters, and the fact is I have a place in society and you don't.
I'm so demoralized bros
I hate that homosexual more than you can believe. He's the endless tinkerer. Just settle on a loadout for frick's sake. What a indecisive homo. His gay lover Brassgay is the same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cute_aggression
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cute_aggression
Justify your gayness however you choose, bro.
A 2-day go-back, a rifle with some extra mags of ammo, is all you need. No one needs thousands of kit, even in a SHTF apocalypse.
>call him a israelite
I literally told you I was israeli, you god damn monkey. Throwing out random out-of-context Goebbels quotes just makes you look like a moron.
>mfw nordic as frick guy got married to a qt
I have no clue how he did it but godspeed
If your kit cost more than $1,000 and doesn’t have a brick of 22lr in it you’re a larping homosexual.
If you think a SHTF situation will happen to the point a brick of .22lr is needed, you're a larping homosexual
I spend like 50 bucks on my belt holster and magazine holder
Non of my friends who actually killed people irl in the civilian world
Had gear why should I
>JUST JOIN THE MILITARY!!1
American Majors (O4) with 8 years experience earn $97,534.80 a year.
I make more than they do.
It’s not about the money you pussy
Right, it's about never deploying to a combat zone while being stuck in a contract that pays pennies. Being combat arms doesn't guarantee combat, especially during peacetime moron
Jihadis and hicks would certainly benefit though. Don't be a have-not. Just because you have gear doesn't mean you need to wear it all the time either, there's a time and place for all things
But they get BAH, BAS, hazard pay, probably jump pay if they're not in a shit unit, free healthcare +dental, basically required to go finish their Master's on the military dime, etc..
You just took O-4 base pay x 12 and assumed that was right. They also get a pretty solid IRA and a pension at their 20 year mark.
This. BAH for an O-4 in my area code is $2200-2700 (without and with dependents), and BAS is around $300. Add $30k/y at minimum to the raw dollar amount, and suddenly being an officer is incredibly lucrative.
I don’t own kit because I have no use for kit. I own a basic chestrig because I need a place to put mags at the range. I own a holster so i can safely carry my pistol around places. That’s it, my needs are covered.
What would 10k worth of gadgets change and what am I supposed to fail at?
My Saiga was like $500 and I got all my gear on Aliexpress for like $120, plus $50 plate carrier which was from Amazon & $300 plates. My ammo stash is more expensive than any of the actual equipment, but I do plan on getting one of them fancy .308 bullpuppers soon and they ain't cheap.
Ok, poors - youre in luck. im at work, on OT, and have nothing else to do. For people who actually do stuff, better gear is better. This includes anything. If you run, better shoes are better. If you hike, better pants are better. See where this is going? Now wipe the snot off your chin and un pucker your face. This relates to everything. Tools, Transportaion - you name it. One day, when you move out, you will learn the importance of reliability. Youre not 20 k away from your car and your pack rips. Or you have taken a day off work and driven an hour and a half to shoot. You get there and your rifle shits the bed, or your optic. I carried a SF DF light as an EDC for work. I used it hundreds of times. It never failed.
>b-b-b-butttt TWO HUNNERT DORRA OMG YOU SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT A --------
Never. Failed.
Some things are overpriced, somethings can be bought surplus sure. Doesn't mean quality gear shouldn't be priority
It genuinely makes me happy to see a large part of the "gun community" realize that being a funko pop consumer is gay.
I think people go too far in the other direction and start to hate on semi-useful stuff like pressure pads, quality lights, etc. but yeah NVGs are a waste of money
moron
$5k high end for anything you'll reasonably use, which means excluding helmet, NVGs, PEQ, but still getting an NVG compatible optic, but also getting a plate+plate carrier+pistol
If you want NVGs then yeah you're looking at 10k easily but at that point you're looking for hobbies to blow money on
Kit? For what? Are you playing dress up like it is Halloween? Habibi did not need a $10k kit, neither do hillbillies. If you are going to dress up like some paramilitary then you will be spotted and gotted in an actual domestic conflict.
If you are dressed like a local (Appalachian, not Afghan) then you appear as a plainclothes civilian to occupying forces.
Are you mentally prepared to kill a government man or are you just amusing yourself? Are you actually willing to fight the guard and the army like those Blair Mountain hillbillies or are you just buying shit cause you can?
Colt M16A1 - 500 Dollars in 2017 dollars
Walther P1 - 400 dollars
25 round magazine - 50 dollars
6 20 round magazines - about 100
2 spare walther p1 magazines - 60 dollars
A mixture of M1956 and M1936 - probably like 130 bucks
Portuguese lizard camo set - 60 bucks
M1943 boots - 300 bucks
French bush hat - 20 bucks
M1949 leather gloves - 15 bucks
French bush scarf - 15 bucks
m2 paratrooper knife - 30 bucks
m3 combat knife - like 100
1780 total tbh.
>spending 10k on a kit
Lfmao. One lucky shell and you're dead. Not all wars are target practices.
poorgays using the ukraine war as an excuse for not having the willpower to save up for cool gear is so sad
>lol body armor? One lucky headshot and you're dead
>lmao guns? What are you gonna do when you run out of ammo?
>lmfao first aid? As if you're gonna be able to administer it on yourself
>lel canteens? Just drink from local water sources, carrying it is a waste
Body armor is pointless because all it does is prevent insta death. If you get hit in shtf you're dead. Unless, of course, it's irl shtf in which case all you need is soft armor as handguns are the biggest threat.
Like, get real dude. If you wanna dress up, then do it. But don't pretend it's anything other than dressing up.
>Body armor is pointless because all it does is prevent insta death
you might get lucky and only take a round to the plate but yeah, a minor wound kills you in shtf. In any situation I can imagine, i cannot justify armor because every bit of my weight budget will be food and water. ideally ill have an ultralight AR, under 200 rounds of ammo, lightweight night vision setup.
take the doomer pill.
>Body armor is pointless because all it does is prevent insta death
That's the entire point of armor dumbass. If it doesn't stop a threat it wasn't enough anyways. If it does then it did its job. There's no in-between.
You'll have a better chance though, than someone without. Every bit counts.
There's nothing fundamentally wrong with having top-of-the-line gear but a lot of people here buy the best shit possible to compensate for the fact that they don't know how to scrap when it's time to scrap. Get decent stuff, but past a certain point your gear won't save you if you suck at fighting.
>to compensate for the fact that they don't know how to scrap when it's time to scrap.
says who, your childhood experiences watching the underdog always beat the rich kid in cartoons?
Are you homosexuals moronic? "Fighting" does not mean hand-to-hand combat, fighting is when you're in a violent confrontation with one or more people. Fighting is reflexes, willpower, situation awareness, physical and mental endurance, with or without a gun. Technique can help compensate for someone's lack of natural fighting ability, or it can turn a natural fighter into a killing machine. But owning weapons or sparring doesn't mean you'll actually be able to survive in a situation where someone's shooting back at you. Why do I have to explain this to morons on the war board?
"I see red bro"
Learning to use a gun is quite expensive in terms of your time, ammo and range time. So is learning to fight, MMA gyms are like $200 a month for both grappling and striking.
It sounds weird but some physical activities are cost prohibitive and thus a middle-upper class hobby, like BJJ or Judo in the USA
What the frick is "kit"? Your gear means nothing, you will never be better than a super gimped light infantryman who lost his grenades and you likely lack a support group if you're asking this making you easily killable.
>Destined to fail
At what? Some crazy SHTF scenario? All the kit in the world wouldn't save you if you were alone. Get friendly with your neighborhood, and you stand a better chance in a SHTF than the loner with 10k in kit.
The man who has it all is king. Kit and kin, leave no stone unturned.
The average soldier hasn't either, and they do it for a living. There hasn't been a proper war with full mobilization (for the US) in decades. All soldiers are paid LARPers until they get shot at.
iunno, my kit was either surplus or tactically acquired. I spent maybe $400 not counting my goofy M4gery
>not pictured: ACH, assault pack
Please stop posting threads you stupid homosexual, the evil eye is real and I hope you don't find out the hard way.
>$15 for chicom chest rig
>$350 for Sub2K gen 2
>$100 for used glock 22 police mags
>$390 for TLR VIR II with focusing lense
>$370 for holosun AEMS green dot
>$5 for Protec PT A Bravo from 2005 with shroud already installed
>$3500 for a pretty great PVS14
>$150 for surefire IR/white light that lives on my helmet
>$400 for glock 27 gen 3
>$50 for TLR6 and Alien Gear Holster combo off of ebay
My whole kit comes out to around $5330 and it works pretty well
based 9mm maxxer
40SW actually because I just have to be different about everything
40 pwnz0rs 9mm
I spent like 5k on my weapons/gear and plan to drop another 5k on nods/helmet. I'm only spending like this because I have money. No way I'd do this if I were worried about the future.
I always love these threads
>different strokes for different folks?
>never, let's fight about shit that doesn't matter for 12 hours
Thats the geargay community. One-upmanship and gullible morons who think "want" is "need". I have yet to work out the proportions of the two groups.
For me it's the people who shoot once a year at an indoor ranve and use airshit on their rifles that think that they are going to bag paranoid geargays that think that they are untouchable because they take a class once a month
Funny as frick all around
$1100 for CMP m1
$150 for surplus ACH
$300 for 500 rounds of m1 ball
4k for PVS-14+g24 and appropriate arm
$75 for USMC IMTV vest
This thread got me curious so I added it up
I’m $5085 on the stuff I use the most. I didn’t count armor because I got that for free.
>belt and accessories
$470
>handgun and magazines
$1265
>knife
$440
>AR and magazines
$2810
>chest rig
$85
>440 for a knife
Kek
https://trcknives.com/product/mille-cuori/?v=c562607189d7
I just like it.
damn i was really excited for it to be something cool looking
I’ll probably buy a hand an a half sword from Albion eventually.
>I just like it.
Fair enough anon. I wish more folks would admit they have shit because they just think it's neat, rather than bend over backward to claim their thing is the best
>rather than bend over backward to claim their thing is the best
Everything about the knife is really nice though. I just don’t mention specs because people tend to get irrationally mad at people who spend money on knives more than they do people who spend money on guns.
The weapons, ammo, armor, coms, rig/helmet/clothing were pretty cheap. The training, nods, thermal imaging, armored vehicles, fortified homestead, safe houses, and easily weaponized commercial drones were VERY expensive. Only handful of guys I know have similar setups, but a few even have additional quanset huts, water, food storage, and armories to equip squad or demiplatoon strength units. -goals
>10k really the minimum now to not be a pooron destined to fail?
most larpers rarely shoot over 50m if at all and have never left suburbia or been shot at
palmetto ar15 and some chink level 4s
I have bout tree fiddy in it all together
this thread is why you moronic 20somethings will never own a house
>20somethings
Anybody that uses this term can immediately be discounted as a moronic homosexual.
Indeed, if you can't afford to spend 2-5k on a good NVG you're far too financially irresponsible and don't make enough to ever hope to afford a house
Tbh you're onto something. My mate spends 1k a month on gear n stuff, but cannot be bothered to put that money into his mortgage.
t. 31yo Boomer with 50k left to pay off on a 440k house with 5k in the bank and 30k in the MSCI
My kit did cost 1500 for a G17& Chink AK. Armor & Helmet 450, Lbe& stuff 350.
You aren't American. Why are you lying?
Might surprise you, but not only Burgers are allowed to on guns. Oh and my 600€ SDM read Norinco AK cannot be bought be any American at all...... Land of the free my ass.
Going to pick up a 1978 6" Ruger security six in mint condition next week. (250€)
Our used gun market here in Germany is way better than what you guys are used to, although we get fricked x2 on any US imports.
Okay, now carry that ruger 6" around town.
I carry a Navy cartridge conversion on my hip all the damn time with a jacket over it
stop being a felon
I'll do so thanks, although I can only carry loaded while hunting in a 3 Mile Ring around my village. Unfortunately getting a carry permit in Germany is near impossible.
On the other side we have a 0,14 homicide rate per 100k inhabitants. That's like 15 times better than Montana or Utah and don't get me started on any US city....
>consoooooom
you will never use your gun against another human being. offing yourself doesnt count.
As long as I'm ready to, that's enough
>Is 10k really the minimum
It's just one big school yard game of one-upmanship, so the minimum is to be the biggest spender.
>Is 10k really the minimum now to not be a pooron destined to fail?
for what? civ div used cheap airsoft gear in syria. failure has nothing to do with an arbitrary dollar amount, it has to do with your capabilities, and whether your goals are realistic. 99% of people here aren't gonna need to use 10k's worth of kit OP.
Oh no! Not me having the time of my life growing mushrooms and playing with my ham radio set-up, with nothing but an O/U and a speargun OH NOOOO!!!
Watch the Dennis Quaid film "Frequency"