What could have ukrainians done differently to achieve better results in their counter offensive?
What could have ukrainians done differently to achieve better results in their counter offensive?
What could have ukrainians done differently to achieve better results in their counter offensive?
Why are you posting a known piece of disinformation?
I have never seen the left anywhere before this counter offensive started let alone anyone besides vatBlack folk saying it was the plan
It actually does predate it by a month but the source is uh questionable is best.
Like Francis E. Dec tier schizophrenia.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230510050402/https://thedreizinreport.com/2023/05/08/dreizin-publishes-complete-ukrainian-battle-plan-for-entire-zaporozhie-front/
Some of the ramblings there are just insane not moronic but legitmentaly schizophrenic.
>questionable at best
kek I checked out that site for the first time when OP posted it yesterday and the very first article was actually incoherent babble about globohomo
Yeah I was more meaning that as an understatement.
If I asked the dude for the source and he said it came to him in a dream I would 100% belive he actually meant it and actually belives it to be real.
it might've been appeared to him from actual russian intelligence/propagandists who saw that blog as a good place to seed it for whatever reason
I could fully believe that russian intelligence is circular
Idk you anons but sites like this a fricking gem to me, there's a navy related site on blogger called navy matters ran by a similar type of guy, 100% not nearly as much of a schizo, leaves out politics (mostly) and actually does make some decent points at times but unironically believes stealth, sensors, drones, and anything made after 1960 are memes and that the only thing that matters is firepower and armor. His posts are constant rambling about how everything will be like WW2 and fancy modern ships will be blind and out gunned without battleship cannons. Comment section is gold on most posts.
>zigger proofs come from schizophrenic morons talking to themselves
no surprise, only delirious morons think somehow russia is winning against western arms, tactic, recon, and intel. imagine having 10 times the artillery and decades worth of soviet weapons, but getting your shit pushed in with less than 5% of afghanistan's spending LOL.
>Francis E. Dec
for the unaware https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRYgD9DVUhg
Some ex-US army mong on some 'I AM NOT A PROPAGANDA OUTLET' website posted it as 'totally leaked' plans. Pic from his website. Note, if hotlink the website, it is in Russian, telling Russians to try other ways to get access to it iirc.
>t. copium-addled subhuman piyavka
t
It looks like a Gollum-like creature living in the shit-pit of an outhouse.
This is pretty much what is considered normal life in russia and india.
>God dammit Ivan, stop stealing our defences
the ''cope lines'' are anti tank ditches, you moron
*mobnik rape chutes
*cumpits
How are we suppose to know this if you don't post actual satellite pictures showing those are anti-tank ditches?
because that map is blackbird groups map
they are a group of finnish autists who actually do pay for satellite images and mapped out the defence based on it.
https://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/The-War-in-Ukraine/091194
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1655584386601951238
this is the thread mapping it, with satellite photos
proceed to the next cope
Thanks for the information, very interesting
>only says anti-tank obstacle
>Y-you're the one coping
>here's an entire group of finnish autists mapping out zigger defences, zigger formations, zigger bases, pointing the best places to attack
If a bunch of finnish autists know all of this, can
you imagine what the glowies know with all their high resolution satellite images? Your homosexual dragon teethes are nothing if they can't stop you from being caught on high resolution satellites and being deleted by precision strikes
no, there are actual anti tank ditches as well as dragons teeth, and editing them out of the map doesnt change the fact that they are there
im sorry this hurt your so very fragile ego
>there are actual anti tank ditches as well as dragons teeth
May we see them?
sure
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1655584386601951238
there are multiple images of them in this thread
any more cope?
Black person how about something not taken from a satellite? Any moron can draw lines on a map. Show me the actual fortifications.
I thinks its because you know if you actually show your "dragons teeth" it'd show that they're shitty triangles the average sedan could push aside let a lone a fricking tank.
read the twitter thread anon, it has multiple satellite images
this is how i know you are a moronic shill
>how about something not taken from a satellite
>read the twitter thread anon, it has multiple satellite images
Lol
Lmao even
Congratulations Ivan. For showing this level of extreme incompetence you'll surely be promoted tot eh next general on the bakmut front.
>hurr dialed in artillery and mines dont exist
>three lines with massive gaps
>video shows the same exact dragons teeth I just mocked
I dont doubt that they're building. Im saying what theyre building is absolute shit and worthless.
i knew you would immediately move the goalposts. so pathetic and predictable
Arguing with your morons is so difficult because you genuinely don't understand english and take your misunderstanding as a sign you're somehow right.
My very first post
was to say "show me your defenses" because I know they're fricking embarrassing.
It's fricking mind boggling that you morons are investing so hard into "we have the strongest defenses there's no way ukraine will break through!" after 2 weeks of a months long offensive.
You're really putting all your propaganda eggs in one very fragile basket.
I have absolute confidence that ukraine will shatter these shitty dragons teeth and drive over some holes in the ground. Do you have confidence you can stop them?
>this level of emotional outburst just because i proved you wrong that there are extensive anti tank ditches
really sad. you must be a muttmerican. also, whats your obession with dragons teeth? we are talking about AT ditches
See you morons in a few months.
yes and i'll still be right and you'll still be delusional and gay
That screen cap was one week before Ukraine recaptured Kherson, russias single biggest trophy city, you fricking braindead slav.
>sees italian flag
>calls you slav
yes moronic the low hanging fruit of kherson that took months to pick was an indication of how little ukraine is capable of. kherson fall was inevitable only a moron like you would question that.
Join your comrades
>he screencaps his own posts
Holy shit you're an unforgivable homosexual.
And even worse, you're fricking italian.
Nice to see tactics are apparently hereditary because your grandfathers were just as moronic.
i'm right and you're delusionally wrong
i'm here to collect hardcore reddit butthurt 😉
Perché non sei a piangere la morte di Silvio, terrone?
>implying he really is Italian
>implying southerners count as italians
Also lmaoing at your pic.
let me explain it to you: the poor lardass moron saw a video on reddit exposing the dragon teeth as subpar and he decided that it follows the defense lines don't real
Black person I never once said they weren't real.
I said they were shit
Because they are objectively shit.
Dragons teeth were done better in WWII and trenches (both AT and conventional) were done better in fricking WWI.
Anon, they are shit
>you must be a muttmerican
delusional worthless moron
Okay the Russians are worthless and incompetent and suck ass blah blah. Why isn’t the offensive moving faster? Is it just “probing” or “shaping” operations at this point? If the defenses are a few dragon’s teeth and a couple holes wtf is going on lmao
>something something 10 SQUARE KILOMETERS OF EMPTY FIELD RETAKEN
Slow offensives are the norm. Fast offensives are rare and usually only happen after a complete rout or absolute overwhelming advantage.
There may come a point in this offensive where russia gets routed like they did in kharkiv and their lines collapse again or it could just grind forward like this for months.
>Fast offensives are rare and usually only happen after a complete rout or absolute overwhelming advantage.
Biden could afford to ship over enough smart munitions to wrap the entire thing up in a single weekend through simply deleting large enough portion of Russian ground presence without mercy, their numbers are low enough
Yes, I am wondering why, given the supposed massive inferiority of the Russians and their joke “defenses,” the offensive is moving so slowly.
Because lunging dick first into enemy territory, even against inferior defenses, is what russia did in February 2022.
That's how you end up with fricked logistics and piles of material wasted.
The only time you can rush in is when there NO defense.
Bear in mind, when I say overwhelming advantage I don't mean what Ukraine has right now. I mean shit like desert storm where they were literally defenseless against half the shit the US had.
>moronic ziggers don't understand that the reason why they used "anti-tank obstacle" is because zigger anti-tank defenses are full of holes and so inconsistent that even autists won't take the time to specify what they are
>could literally be just a bunch of homosexual dragon's teeths
>nevermind it being unmanned with moronic mobiks with no training
4th gesture of goodwill coming through
no, they literally an explicitly use the term ''anti tank ditch'' along with actual satellite imagery and videos of the ditches. please stop this desperate cope
You just drive through those ditches anyway;)
>point out that this defensive line is full of holes and inconsistent as frick
>zigger shows tweet showing that those defensive lines is full of holes and inconsistent as frick to prove it wrong
based zigger moron.
>moves the goalposts yet again
impressive, pedro
>the ''cope lines'' are anti tank ditches, you moron
>it's actually a patchwork of maybe anti-tank ditches, maybe dragon's teeth, maybe trenches with massive gaps in-between
ESLgays can't tell the difference. moronic ziggers think that it's some massive cumpit 1km deep.
no, its anti tank ditches, as proven multiple times in the thread
feel free to post evidence otherwise, gonzalez
>the defenses don't real ukies are failing to advance in an undefended empty field
next level /k/ope
here you go
video of the russians digging the AT ditches
somehow i doubt this will stop your blatant moronic cope though
>point out that impenetrable red line is like five homosexual dragon's teeths spread over a 1 km line
>y-your ego is very hurt right now
KEK
nope, anti tank ditches, see
please stop the cope.
>c-cope
>here's 1-2 pictures that don't even take up 5 km
>no where does it say it's a massive cumpit
are you moronic?
ukies must be real morons
where is the physical map ziggers. Not just a fricking tweet showing literally just 1-2 km section or a youtube video.
watch the video anon
the sheer level of cope on this board is unreal
>is unreal
you must be new, you ain't seen nothing yet
see
are you? you have to be a 80 iq muttmerican to be this stupid
>are you moronic?
Do you have to ask?
He's indian, probably has five tumour covered heads and half a fried brain between them.
>Your homosexual dragon teethes are nothing if they can't stop you from being caught on high resolution satellites and being deleted by precision strikes
I like that I am not alone in my Finnish autist enjoyment, anon.
>anti tank ditches
>the Westernmost ditches are now filled with Dnieper water
If the anti-tank pyramids are any indication, those "ditches" are probably like 2 feet deep.
Those redlines will be crossed
Go on then
even more embarrassing
its over, russia is collapsing
They've already collapsed 3 times.
Pre-emptively nuke their slavic """brothers""" before they gave up their nukes. Failing that, invading before they could alongside Poland Finland et al would've helped. At this point skinning everything inside Russia's borders is really the only way forward.
>t. moderate
/k/oper is in full denial mode
>Russia has to resort to using enemies skin as ERA
>3 leopard skins
I don't think they managed to lose even that many yet
>ztards think this looks badass
it truly is the morning sirs
>Zaporozhia/ye
>Kharkov
>Kiev
>Lugansk
>the Bakhmut troony name after some commie
why do ziggers not even bother hiding their biases? every post using those terms is 3rd world garbage
Essentially, their military leadership and staff officers should be replaced by NATO people. Ukrainian generals simply don’t know how to win or even run a modern, capable military. Once the leadership corps is fixed the soldier will start fighting better due to improved morale. Although Ukrainian capabilities are pretty bad it’s still enough to kick Russia out — they just have to be used properly and troops organized correctly following a serious doctrine and everything done in support of that doctrine. Forget the 500 howitzers and tanks they’re asking for, they should be asking for doctrine support and officer training.
we have no proof that hato israeli black nazis would be any better. offensives are fricking hard
I bet Ukro generals are by now more experienced and capable than nato/globohomosexual ones.
Where did both of these images come from
>HAHAHAH Youre 2 weeks into your counter offensive and you've only taken 200 sqkm!
>Bakmut is a glorious success! Westoids wish they could take 3 city blocks while only losing 200,000 'men' over the course of 10 months!
God I love this part of the war. Where russians are forced to watch reality unfold and all they can do is change their cope weekly.
Just so you know, Ivan, this counter offensive is going to take months. We're still in the prodding early phases where small forces are used to expose weaknesses. The fact that they're gaining ground during a phase not even designed for that should scare the frick out of you.
>summer fighting season begins
>"HA! You could only take 10 miles in one week? Just give up!"
Wonder where the cope will be at in October.
In Rostov.
We can only hope
Wait you think Russia lost 200k men in Bakhmut?
Hyperbole, moron.
Arent you going to "UHM ACKCHUALLLY BAKMUT IS MORE THAN 3 BLOCKS!" too?
Ah okay thanks. How many men do you think they lost then? Also: you seem unstable lmao
If you believe Prihozhine, they took 20k KIA and if you take the standard killed/wounded ratio, ziggers basically buck-broke themselves over that place.
>We're still in the prodding early phases
> Complete 47th NATO-trained elite vanguard got annihilated in the gray zone
> JUST KEEP ON PROOOOBING
>NATO trained elite vanguard
Literally who said this?
the 47th (which got its shit pushed in in those two destroyed columns) was quite literally NATO trained and equipped from the ground up. they even had m16s
> before offensive: HAH SUPREME NATO WEAPONS AND TRAINING will kill ziggers and drive straight to the azov coast, slabba ugraini
> during offensive: uhhh, n-no there was never NATO training, also fast advances were not expected, f-frick you vatnik
There you go again, just making shit up.
I understand it's comfortable to retreat into fantasy in times like these but put the vodka down and come back to reality Ivan.
> Offensive? Yeah, its going great, we adopted all the best NATO tactics.
>9 days old footage
Got anything more recent?
>Got anything more recent?
no one does, because ukraine literally halted the offensive due to the losses they suffered in the first 3 days
You're literally just making up your own reality at this point.
Sad.
Literally no-one except the most moronic western tweeters and number 1 ukranian azov patriots thought left image was expected from week 1 of the offensive.
Be honest, all this is more about knternet point-scoring against people that annoyed you rather than attempting to understand whats going on
I feel like pic related all the time. Sure, frick Ziggers, but it seems like nobody knows how to read a fricking map. They ignore the direction of where roads go, and instead imagine something like panzers blazing across undefended Polish wheat fields.
>why are the only people who support us, morons?
jokes write themselves
more smart munitions
Source of the first pic or get lost.
>Source of the first pic
Some twatter moron who's definitely not biased in favor of rushitia
so how is that counterattack to retake Markivka going shitskin?
It's impressive that they diluted their propaganda coup about the destroyed Leopards and Bradleys by immediately going cyka rush b with their reinforcements and having an entire armored column of their own shot up
So you fricks came back to shit up the board yet agian so let me guess those TU-95 that took off and disappeared 6 hours ago really did crash to send in the damage control brigade or something else happend?
Killed all the zigger concenr trolls
>admitting to losing 56 tanks when the "main defense line" hasn't been reached.
Yo, Rajeesh, how many rupees did you get paid today? Enough to counteract the redeemed card or no?
I had a minor moronic epiphany just now. /misc/Black folk and vatniks are profoundly war illiterate. Because they have no idea what war looks like, they were expecting and dreading Baghdad style thunder runs straight into the heart of Melitopol in 24 hours. When that didn't happen, because it was never going to happen and nobody sensible thought it was going to happen they breathed a sigh of relief and immediately decided they'd won.
There was one moron on here claiming that since WW1 if there's no breakthrough within the first 48 hours of an offensive, that offensive will always fail.
They simply don't know what a modern staged operation would look like
>only i, the supreme general of reddit, should speak about war
>War tourist from reddit projects
Many such cases
>if there is no breakthrough within 48 hours the offensive will fail
That is 100% correct you triple bigger, if you fail to either surprise or overwhelm your enemy they will bring in support assets and reserves and if you don't have superiority across the front you are fricked.
Exactly what happened to Ukrops, to bad there is no Dnipro river at the back of the Russians to choke their supply line this time.
You are more moronic than /misc/troon, let that sink in ya fricking tourist, a brown sub 80iq schizo subhuman dominates you intellectually.
Just rope and end it.
>it's true if you don't hit our supplies or make us PANIC
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA even your hot takes don't have much confidence. Puccian supporters have been utterly buckbroken by the number of goodwill gestures.
I cited multiple examples. Of both offensives that achieved early breakthroughs but ultimately failed (Battle of the bulge, Market-Garden) and battles that ground on but ultimately prevailed (Caen, Tunisian Campaign, Guadalcanal, etc. etc.)
It's far more common for an offensive to grind on for a long time before a decisive breakthrough is made than the opposite.
As I said, these /misc/Black folk are war illiterate and cannot cite any examples to back up what they say nor can they mount any kind of reasonable defense. All they can do is screech mindless (misspelled) insults peppered with /misc/ buzzwords.
Ukraine has neither the men nor material for a ''grinding'' offensive
Lol, ok.
Objectively, they dont.
If you say so.
>t. scooby doo truck driver
Does russia?
There's not much to grind with when you're dealing with low morale mobiks.
Then why has the offensive gone nowhere in 2 weeks?
They do have defenses.
Some are manned
And where is the ukranian material to break through all that?
Hang on, I'll just phone up Zaluzhny and ask him where he's positioned his reserves.
Ukraine isn't even fighting anymore. It's 70% NATO volunteers right now.
When will russians admit they are losing to regular ukrainian guys? You don't have to be a genetically improved Black person supersoldier from Blackwater to deal with mobiks under Soighu's command. Russians are neither a supreme race, nor the supreme warriors. IRL one angry Taras with a golden account in PUBG can eliminate a couple platoons of ziggers and don't even notice.
>ukranian material
The frick where did you hear that? Ukraine got desperate after you wrote on /k/ that they aren't winning fast enough, so they activated their 200k HATO mercenaries
>a brown sub 80iq schizo subhuman dominates you intellectually.
No, you are not
Shhh, he's going to devastate me with a defense of his moron 48 hour thesis at any moment, dropping citations and studies and stats that prove that no offensive that doesn't achieve a major breakthrough in the first 48 hours has ever succeeded. Or maybe he needs some time to prepare. That's fair, right? I mean I've been autistically studying war as a hobby for like 20 years.
Shall we say... 2 weeks?
Almost every offensive in the war so far has followed its initial momentum. Kiev got bogged down early on and remained that way, Mariupol started as a grinding siege and remained that way, South Donbass from Popasna to Lysichansk started as a successful artillery slog and finished that way, Bakhmut started as moronic but successful grinding attacks and finished that way, and the Kharkov offensive started as a blitzkrieg and kept up the momentum to Izyum.
The only exception is Kherson due to the bridge finally being destroyed, but the overall pattern where there was actually combat remained the same throughout.
Maybe this time will finally be different but you can't blame them for making what's been a reliable prediction so far.
In that case this will be a slow, cautious advance that gradually squuzes vatniks out of positions.
Which is, in fact, what Prigozhin is saying.
>penetrate 1-7km across the frontline in a week and liberate nearly 100 square km in a week
>russia admits to throwing undermanned reserves and losing 56 tanks in the crumple zones
>lose 5 SPGs with specialists and 200 mobiks to himars strikes
did more in a week than puccia did in ten months while losing less men.
see
So the NATO shills have changed from
' NATO main battle tanks will cut through the Russian defenses unimpeded and impervious to Russian artillery "
to "7 kilometers in a week " Unproven of course. The Ukrainian Deputy Minister of Defense said yesterday " There is one place Ukrainian forces have advanced 500 meters."
And as your fellow zigger helpfully pointed out, she simply meant 500 meters in the last day
> she simply meant 500 meters in the last day
That is a big change from NATO main battle tanks will roll unimpeded and unhindered by Russian artillery>
You forgot to mention several other convoys, AA vehicles, supply dumps and field HQs that also got clapped in the same week.
>just now
It should be clear even before war
I don't think it's even that. They're just morons. And I mean that literally. Black person-tier morons, who only live in the moment and are incapable of planning ahead or understanding that actions have consequences. They live through immediate stimuli and propaganda, like reacting to pictures and headlines, and being told the offensive failed. That's their reality.
And they'll keep believing it, despite having been wrong every single time before, because they don't learn from their failures, because they're morons. And if this offensive succeeds, they'll be repeating the exact same thing in another 6 months or another year, when another big event is about to happen. Maybe Crimea somewhere down the line, or the eastern areas taken in 2014.
And that's just the ones who have been subverted. What the actual shills believe, I don't know. Maybe they believe their own lies. I think a lot of them do, because that's the fundamental reason the war ended up as such a clusterfrick for the Russians. Obviously they believed they were far stronger than they were.
There is no panic, everything is under control. Go to Intel Slava Z for more news that the mainstream media is trying to bury.
Damn, Girkin is hitting that copium hard
>This Russian gay tells me the US will end in 10 years!
So all they need to do is prolong the war 10 years and is over, right?
>This Russian gay tells me the US will end in 10 years!
That's fricking ironic since it's known that Russia is facing a massive demographic crisis that it is unlikely to recover from.
One thing I find fascinating about vatBlack folk and their pathetic horde of sycophants, is the fact that there's never any discussion to be had, whether it's amongst themselves or with others. It's only bait, childish internet slang or outdated memes from over 5 years ago, like they're children or literal morons.
They never talk about strategy, tactics or how the war might evolve. If they do, it's based purely on propaganda, or if they're forced to admit defeat, about shifting blame.
It's the definition of cope.
Hire more indians .That always works for the russians.
Holy shit. I did not even realize the Deputy Defense Minister of Ukraine is a woman. You know she is a NATO Globohomo, never served, know nothing. Holy sheeit
In a post on Telegram messaging app, Deputy Defence Minister Hanna Maliar said the Ukrainian actions had had "partial" success.
In the past day, Ukrainian troops had advanced 200-500 metres (220-550 yards) in various areas near the small eastern city of Bakhmut, and 300-350 metres in the direction of the southeastern city of Zaporizhzhia, she said.
https://oafnation.com/blogs/news/ukraine-reports-more-small-advances-in-extremely-fierce-fighting?fbclid=IwAR0xo8BpEo94I23rCpPGHiMmdT3yjnX_316c8SGIKjTV8UgzfkuMl3DBOhA
wasn't the shaping operation phase meant to deal with this?
You must be new to /k/ . It is sad really. A fundamental truth is that to be successful in battle you must honestly study, evaluate and know your enemy as well as your own capabilities.
The NATO shills pushed the " NATO wonder weapon tanks versus moronic Russian " meme so hard that they could not foresee how the battle would unfold.
So now we are at "Bro , 500 meters a day was the plan all along". Here's your rouble Russia shill."
>That punctuation spacing
>That "rouble"
How goes it in china, Wang? They pay you your 50 cents yet?
--->reddit/r/grammar homosexual
Chang, I know Chinese and Japanese keyboards double space punctuation, please.
wtf moron
Your 5th grade name calling versus honest, and thoughtful study.
In March of 2022 there was an incident in which an armored battalion of the Ukrainian forces stopped in an open field to prepare to cross a river bridge.
It was spotted by a Russian drone and the follow on artillery destroyed the entire armored battalion in about 15 minutes.
As long as the Russians have forward observers and artillery arrayed across the battle space armor will not have a great effect.
Artillery trumps armor every time. As long as the Russians can prevent Ukrainian air to surface attacks on their artillery and have an artillery advantage the Russians will control the battle space.
Also consider a modern tank division that numbers 400 modern main battle tanks requires 600,000 gallons of fuel to operate every day. You are talking about 100 fuel trucks that only carry 5,000 gallons of fuel at a time operating near the forward edge of the battle space along with their support personnel and equipment.
As long as the Russians have artillery and forward observers and can prevent Ukrainian air forces from engaging their artillery the advantage is to the Russians, by a long shot. Meat grinder it is.
>Literal copy-paste off another thread
Wonderful.
People have been trying to get the truth out. The fact that it has been said before does not lessen the truth.
Take the CNN dick out of your mouth and open your eyes.
I know, get a moderator to ban me because the truth hurts your feelers.
Just suckle on "500 meters in a day Bro. That was the plan all along"
It's not a good look to literally have a script you copy-paste repeatedly. And doubly so if the reply to it is a copy-paste too. Jesus Christ, at this point I feel like the indians are doing a better job, wumaos truly have fallen.
It is the truth . 2+2 = 4. Is that copy pasta also
>russians
>truth
you have literally taken every oppertunity you were given to be honest and still lied, even in situations like these, where you have a small success to boast about, killing about 5 bradleys and a few tanks.
and you blow it by trying to decieve, pushing narratives and using multiple angles to try and convince people in an online imageboard that there were more losses than there were.
this is why nobody gives a shit when you hold these hardfelt sermons about "getting the truth out" you fricking homosexual, i can tell you i would love to discuss the war in earnest with someone from the opposing side, but i have had only 2 oppertunities to do so because the rest of you are so incredibly fricking deadset on pushing narratives and magical thinking, as well as samegayging to pretend more people agree with you, and falseflagging, pretending to be the opposing side and saying moronic shit to imply we're just as delusional as you.
Still with your post here ...All you have is 5th grade name calling.
This is why the CNN meme has changed from
> "NATO tanks will roll unimpeded and unhindered by Russian artillery ."
to " 500 meters a day was the plan all along Bro."
>All you have is 5th grade name calling
>muh CNN
CNN is an American media corporation
O'rly? Tell me more.
CNN lies to you
Like vatniks or worse?
Like the Biden administration so worse really
Are you sure? Give me an example of Biden lies that could beat the russian propaganda efforts of the first month of SMO
.
Joe Biden got 81 million votes. The most in American history. There was no electoral fraud.
The entire Biden administration is a lie.
> This is how you get banned from /k/
but you asked.
So you have nothing.
>You have nothing.
The entire Biden administration is a lie held up by a fraudulent election according to the majority of Americans.
>Russia
>election
biden got more people voting for him and won, you need to stop slurping russian agitprop
I know riiight ?? fur sure, realz. It took a week in Atlanta to count all of those mail in ballots we had to mark up,, err i mean unload from the UHaul van in the middle of the night.
Heyy Biden just won, OK ?!
>Joe Biden got 81 million votes
My problem, not your problem.
>Russia selling my resources to China and having nukes targeted at my hometown
My problem and your problem.
Our internal interests may differ but we still share the same external enemy. Thank you for the team building btw.
>it's just a Russian-Belarussian training exercise
>there will be no war
>NATO is just warmongering
>MI6's prediction of an invasion is fake news, the only way they could actually predict is if they have a high level Russian mole
>okay so what if their prediction turned out true, it doesn't mean they have a high level mole, analysts could have figured that out
>okay, so what if we did invade, it doesn't matter we said we wouldn't
>Ukraine actually escalated it in the Donbass (despite the fact we had a massive buildup on their border???)
>we had to do it because of Ukraine falling to globohomo
>but actually it's about about denazifying them
>it doesn't matter we actually started planning in the summer 2021
>the west will never provide united support to Ukraine
>the Ukrainians will welcome us as liberating brothers
>it doesn't matter there's united western support for Ukraine
>it doesn't matter they didn't welcome us as liberating brothers
>using Chechen Islamist Terrorist Mercenary Warlords to invade a European country is based and redpillled and hecking trad af, actually
>it doesn't matter we failed our original Blitzkrieg plan
>actually we planned for a longer conflict
>it doesn't matter that victory articles were prematurely released on pro-kremlin disinformation foundries
>it doesn't matter we've gotten bogged down in all areas of the conflict
>it doesn't matter Belarus isn't joining us, even though they accidentally leaked plans they were intending to
>at least NATO will never declare a no fly zone
>but actually it's about the danger of Ukraine planning to get nukes
>stay away, NATO, or we use nukes
>the sanctions don't matter
>it doesn't matter Kiev isn't encircled yet
>actually it's all about biolabs
You forgot " 500 meters a day in this one place right here was the plan all along Bro."
Post Kyiv
Post Moscow. It's been 10 days your NATO wonder tanks should be there by now.
>actually try to take Kyiv
>horribly fail
>no one is trying to take Moscow at all
>Kremlin still gets droned
lmao
>Ukraine is winning to slowly
>win in the way I tell you!
Kherson vibes.
Stop responding to bait, he literally took that from that "hey remember how morons thought the war was going in 2022?" thread yesterday because he saw how many people laughed at it. So he figured it was good bait
this is all the /k/ope that is left. Pathetic, your copefensive failed and you are too high on your own farts to admit it
So there's no more footage? Strange that because Ukrainians are providing fresh kino of Russian corpses and BTFOd tanks every day.
Still waiting for you to defend your 48 hours breakthrough thesis. Or are you just going to seethe for the rest of the day?
two more weeks anon kek
Yep, in 2 weeks you will say "they only captured 100km so far, we didn't want any of that anyway"
Day 477 of the special military operation.Vatniks still don't know what opsec is.
good morning sirs
>USSR invades afghanistan
>topples government, takes control of 100% of the country
>USSR collapses and fails
>Russia invades Ukraine
>fails to topple government, gets pushed back three times, left hanging on 15% of the country while getting pummeled by endless precision munitions
>Russia is getting pushed back a fourth time and Americans are only at 5% of their afghanistan war spending
no ukraine to leech on now so I can only see this ending much much worse for the russians than it did for the soviets.
I just realized all of these new /k/ tards are triple + vaccinated.
Okay, but fact of the matter is, realistically Ukraine isn't going to blitzkrieg through all that crap. Not after the Russians were given time to prepare.
The biggest question is, why we're here yammering about an Ukrainian offensive, and not talking about Ukrainian partisan activity against "Steppe Storm" involving an Highway of Death to Lviv and 30K Ukrainian casualties versus 50 Russian ones (of which 25 were of alcohol poisoning)?
You DO know this is on the same level as Isandalwana, right?
Joe Biden got 81 million votes. The most in American history. There was no electoral fraud.
The entire Biden administration is a lie.
> This is how you get banned from /k/
but you asked.
i think that number is plausible more due to trump being divisive than biden himself being popular, media were extremely politicized during the trump term and half the country was radicalized to vote anyone but orange hitler
Philadelphia voting precincts having 110% voter turnout. Totally plausible Bro. We just needed to kick the poll monitors out and count mail in ballots for 6 days to win Pennsylvania.
>Philadelphia voting precincts having 110% voter turnout.
which ones
didn't trump himself have a higher number of votes than any previous president, society was just politicized to a fever pitch
How comes Russians and Ukrainian rebels from LPR/DPR are so motivated to keep their ground?
Bro , Joe Biden is totally honest and knows what is actually happening in Ukraine. Hunter Biden is a Ukraine expert Bro.
No aircraft support? Little artillery? The copefensive was always doomed.
nato gear was so shilled online everyone using it would start thinking they would just drive through everything on the other side.