What caused the recent spike in downed Russian planes?
>Ukrainian Air Force Downs Seventh Russian Fighter-Bomber in Recent Days
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28385
More aggressive use of Patriots? F-16 surprise? Something else?
What caused the recent spike in downed Russian planes?
Sorry, my bad.
Probably patriot batteries, but I do expect that whenever F-16s finally do arrive, they’ll get the same treatment as when the ATACMS arrived, meaning they’ll show up and start fricking shit up before the public knows about it
>but I do expect that whenever F-16s finally do arrive
Who’s gonna tell him?
The pilots graduate in May, and only a handful of them
The first pilots graduated in December. The fact of the matter is there will be no US made aircraft flying in Ukraine. The liability is too great.
The fact of the matter is you will keep saying that, just like all the other shit you confidently asserted, right up until the videos come out and then you'll memory hole the whole thing.
Remember how no artillery would be send? And then no himars? And then no weapons capable of striking deep into Russia? Literally everything you Black folk say has turned out to be wrong.
The West is going to win this one, you had better get used to the idea.
So Ukraine gets around 50 f-16s and just forgets about them, that's your assertion?
>surely they would never dare send HIMARS xaxaxa
b***h LASAGNA
40 Russian butts oiled up and winking at throbbing Chechen wiener
Seriously? I think the US may be testing new laser weapons.
https://news.lockheedmartin.com/2023-07-28-Lockheed-Martin-to-Scale-Its-Highest-Powered-Laser-to-500-Kilowatts-Power-Level
https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/08/01/lockheed-laser-weapon-upgrade/
>Russians didn't see that coming! ACK
Incorrect usage of ack, newfriend shill.
reddit spacing
>doubling down on your moronation
Back to wherever you spawned from, Pajeet.
>reddit spacing
I think it counts as an atrocity (warcrime) to shoot a high power laser at a manned aircraft, as it would fall foul of the "no blinding weaponry" Protocol IV of the 1980 Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons.
if it's not specifically designed to blind the target then it's fine. it doesn't really matter though the US doesn't really have to follow the rules.
Can you not read c**t?
Article 1
It is prohibited to employ laser weapons specifically designed, as their sole combat function or as one of their combat functions, to cause permanent blindness to unenhanced vision, that is to the naked eye or to the eye with corrective eyesight devices. The High Contracting Parties shall not transfer such weapons to any State or non-State entity.
Article 2
In the employment of laser systems, the High Contracting Parties shall take all feasible precautions to avoid the incidence of permanent blindness to unenhanced vision. Such precautions shall include training of their armed forces and other practical measures.
Article 3
Blinding as an incidental or collateral effect of the legitimate military employment of laser systems, including laser systems used against optical equipment, is not covered by the prohibition of this Protocol.
what's the point of article 1? so that planes don't crash into civilian places?
If it has enough power to down a plane it will probably blind you by burning your face off.
In effect not different from being blinded by the side effects of any other weapon
It's a 500kw laser. Blinding is least of your problems. Blinding weapons have to be intentionally made to blind. These new lasers are designed to shoot down aircraft.
Invading your neighbor as a part of a Slavic dick measuring contest is also against the rules
Now Cry
>Now Cry
22.02.2024
Russian losses last 24 hours and totals. personnel refers to killed not killed and wounded but Russian dead.
Tanks — 6523 (+7)
Armored fighting vehicle — 12373 (+35)
Artillery systems — 9867 (+41)
MLRS — 997 (+5)
Anti-aircraft warfare — 680 (+2)
Planes — 339 (+1)
Helicopters — 325
UAV — 7596 (+36)
Cruise missiles — 1903
Ships (boats) — 25
Submarines — 1
Trucks and fuel tankers — 12924 (+63)
Special equipment — 1566 (+8)
Military personnel — aprx. 407240 people (+1160)
>Military personnel
>407,240
I haven't seen any point this out yet, but this now places Russian KIA (Ukrainian claimed) above US WW2 combat losses (about 405k).
And it's not over yet!
>Russian KIA
I thought those are irretrievable combat losses in general, i.e. including those wounded who won't be returning to action, not just dead.
The word you are looking for is "casualty". It is understandable that you war tourists aren't familiar with terminology related to war and military affairs. Let me help you out here.
>casualty
>1 a: a military person lost through death, wounds, injury, sickness, internment, or capture or through being missing in action
The 400k figure is not casualties. It is kills. Dead men. Deceased. Perished. No longer alive. Stiffs. The good kind of russians. Vatniks with the vata blown the frick out of them. Ziggers who have been promoted to serve Ukrainian agriculture as fertilizer.
>you war tourists
>thinks "casualties" are only 200s and not 300s
dunning-kruger'd homosexual
casualties in the NATO sense can be temporary and can be returned to battle eventually, especially those with light wounds recorded as WIA
>The 400k figure is not casualties. It is kills. Dead men
wrong
Warpact militaries use a slightly different definition of "KIA" which includes what NATO would call "WIA", ie casualties who are alive but have suffered sufficiently disabling wounds (such as lost limbs) so that they're no longer useful manpower
that is what Ukraine CLAIMS is the 400k figure, but we only have their word for it, and they are nearly as prone to overclaiming as the Russians are
the UK MoD is only willing to go so far as to say the 400k refers to KIA and WIA both
>nearly as prone to overclaiming as the Russians are
>MUH BOTH SIDES
Not even close. Ukies might fudge some numbers here and there, R*ssia just makes them the frick up. Remember, according to their daily statistics they already destroyed the Ukrainian air force several times over. The two aren't even in the same realm, conceptually. R*ssian claims are completely divorced from reality.
>according to their daily statistics they already destroyed the Ukrainian air force several times over
according to Ukrainian claims they killed or wounded every single Russian in the Armed Forces
>R*ssian claims are completely divorced from reality
they are, but that doesn't excuse Ukrainian overclaiming
And? What's so unbelievable about that? Did you miss the massive mobilization that the R*ssoids undertook and still continue? Where do you think all those extra troops went? Why don't we see a huge increase of their manpower in Ukraine? Oh, right, they replaced irretrievable combat losses.
Starts to sound a lot like concern trolling on your part.
>they are, but that doesn't excuse Ukrainian overclaiming
I didn't say it did, you fricking Hispanic, but it's disingenuous beyond belief to pretend that they're "nearly" the same. They're not even in the same universe.
>What's so unbelievable about that?
because you may be numbers illiterate but not me; the number of casualties Ukraine claims includes the entire standing Russian Ground Forces AND literally every conscript drafted by the Russians since the war began, so if their claims are right, every single Russian boot on the ground has been wounded and there's nothing stopping them from walking into Moscow
at least, if you go by the numbers.
>I didn't say it did
oh? but you're practically frothing trying to defend Ukrainian figures which are about 2x to 3x more than anything anyone else has observed.
Absolute nonsense given that the figures include Donbabweans and Lugandans, places we know were virtually depopulated of men in order to have fodder for endless meat assaults.
>oh? but you're practically frothing trying to defend Ukrainian figures which are about 2x to 3x more than anything anyone else has observed.
Who's that "anyone else"? Brits counting public obituaries?
>Absolute nonsense
Not when you examine also the numbers of jets and tanks also claimed by the AFU, and note that across the board their ratio of overclaiming holds true at 2-3x to 1
until you have better corroborative evidence, this is where it stands
>trying to talk shit about claiming of jets
I want to force you to work at a shitty mcdonalds job for the next 3 years, living out of a highway underpass, just to pay for public high resolution satellite imagery of suspected RuAF downings. You fricking animal.
The number of visually confirmed tanks is ~50% less than what the Ukes claim; given that inherently not every killed tank will be documented the minimum possible kills are that number. Granted, tanks are probably going to be the most documented kill so the real number is probably ~60% of what the Ukes claim.
Jets, on the other hand are much harder to document. Given the BVR distances involved and the possibility and likelihood of the crash landing in grey areas (best case) or behind enemy lines (worst case) 2-3x claimed actually being shot down isn't nearly as much of a reach.
In either case, the reality of the war lends a lot of credence to the claimed Ukranian numbers. If Russia "only" lost like 2,000 tanks through the whole war, they probably wouldn't be churning out 1,200 refurbished T-55s a day; and if the Russians have "only" lost a couple dozen aircraft; we'd probably be seeing them a lot more on the front.
>2-3x claimed actually being shot down isn't nearly as much of a reach.
historically for various reasons, aircraft losses have resulted in about 2x to 3x more claims than confirmed kills
>if the Russians have "only" lost a couple dozen aircraft; we'd probably be seeing them a lot more on the front.
we know for sure they've lost about a hundred
the reason why we are not seeing much air activity is that they're just as aware of the improved Ukrainian IADS as anyone else, and they must certainly have a lot of wear and tear from the last 2 years of fighting, so a lot of aircraft are probably awaiting maintenance, which the RuAF is going to be very short of
>The word you are looking for is "casualty".
No, moron, "casualty" includes all (moderately) wounded, including those who can be sent back.
Those things are designed to cut through metal, getting blinded is the least of your worries when that shit burns your entire face off.
I suppose having Darth NATO lightsaber your eyes out from 2 kilometers away (along with the top half of your head) would certainly count as blinding you.
even the Sosna N is not a war crime
>read the fine print lol
Winners don't give a shit about your stupid fricking made-up laws. Frick off, we'll do whatever the frick we want. The Hague exists to humiliate the cowardly remnants of the losers after we curb stomp their countries.
The range could be a problem for a laser
But I believe such weapons are a solution for missiles/drones spam
>This time, the pilot of the Su-35 was fortunate – he managed to maneuver and evade risks.
Nah, it's some kind of visible missile, if it was a laser they wouldn't see anything to dodge.
Not a chance. 500kw is not powerful enough to be downing planes at a reasonable distance. Lasers diffuse and refract in atmosphere very quickly, limiting destructive potential to less than 5 miles. I think the military isn't expecting any anti aircraft capability from lasers til they hit the megawatt range.
Russians are trying to capitalise on new positions next to avdiivka, but lack the ability to properly supply their usual artillery, so they're throwing planes at the wall as a temporary stopgap and they're now flying into actual air defences since they're no longer bombing a cauldron that had little to no defences.
What do you think will be the impact of Denmark sending its entire artillery to Ukraine?
That was a mistranslation/misinterpretation.
Someone misunderstood a present tense word to mean that Denmark was suddenly about to send a shitload of ammo to Ukraine, but that's not the case.
They basically said that Denmark had already sent all their artillery to Ukraine, something like 20 ceasars.
>source
I don't feel like providing it.
But they said they supply Ukraine with shitload of ammo and that was future tense. It was probably you who misinterpreted the info.
>The Danish government has decided to donate all of the 19 Caesar self-propelled howitzers it is buying from France to Ukraine.
>"It is practically the entire Danish artillery that Denmark is giving to Ukraine in one blow," the Danish Broadcasting Corporation said in an article.
> January 19, 2023
Translating Danish discussion because every English article is the same quote with no numbers.
>People have misunderstood that talking about the 19 already donated CAESAR to Ukraine.
>Read somewhere that it will be 80% of all the grenades we have. There probably aren't many 155mm left, we have already sent what the defense previously thought we could do without.
Even if we pretend that Denmark sent no shells previously, and is only now emptying its stocks, they simply don't have the numbers to change the game.
They are reactivating a 155mm factory, but there needs to be a shift to mass production in multiple countries if they really want to turn the tide on the artillery front.
>there needs to be a shift to mass production in multiple countries if they really want to turn the tide on the artillery front.
EU is surprisingly open about this. They said production is at 1 million shells annually. Goal is to reach 2 million at the end of this year. Some basic math reveals this means 2800 daily production now and 5600 at Christmas. Not all of this will go straight to Ukraine. Maybe half. So there is no way EU shell production alone will save the day.
More aggressive Russian behavior would be my guess. Since Ukraine is running out of artillery shells the Russians must've assumed they're also running out of missiles for Patriots or IRIS-T. So they're using their planes more aggressively under the assumption Ukraine either has no ammo or will run out very soon. Somehow I doubt this plan is going to work out in their favor.
I don't trust the EU to actually reach that goal. European arms industry is in such a rotten state it'll take them years until it's back to Cold War levels and they'll be able to reliably produce millions of shells a year. They were promising a million shells last year as well and only scraped together some 300k.
> European arms industry is in such a rotten state it'll take them years until it's back to Cold War levels and they'll be able to reliably produce millions of shells a year. They were promising a million shells last year as well and only scraped together some 300k.
It is not that bleak. Production has expanded 50% already and a few countries like Germany and Czechia are getting there.
I for one am glad, as a European, that this Ukraine situation has make our governments take national security a bit more seriously instead of just carrying on the slow draw down from the 1980's. If nothing else, its just good for the economy to get some more indigenous production going. Hell, even here in Ireland the Dáils been getting endless flack for relying for so long on the UK for our national security both in terms of air and sea assets.
its not good for the economy to pay wildly more and never get a product just because its "domestic"
sure vlad
Dubliner here, agreed. The funny thing is, we already have a lot of industries that can very easily pivot to the defence sector, it just takes a bit of cop-on from the government. Like, there's a company called A-techSYN that manufactures military MALE drones out in Shannon, they're already selling to places like Turkey and Taiwan, but not to our own air corps. It's lunacy.
>I for one am glad, as a European, that this Ukraine situation has make our governments take national security a bit more seriously
I'm a little disappointed that most of the world isn't taking the unfolding situation seriously enough. Not even 1% seriously.
Ukraine is slowly demilitarizing Russia with mere permilles of NATO GDP, but much needless death and destruction could have been avoided had everyone invested even as little as 1% from the beginning.
Nothing good comes from words starting with bi-
YOU SHUT YOUR prostitute MOUTH, YOU COPPER LOVING c**t!
leave me alone bipartizan
biscuits
Bifocals are neat
>Nothing good comes from words starting with bi-
bingo
Frick you bighorns are cool.
bigolbreasts
I always knew bipedes were a mistake
t. spider
source? or is this your theory?
Word on the street
?t=210
seems like the most likely answer.if their own aa is this bad then they could have a very poor understanding of their enemies aa too.
This *cauldron* was like 3-4km deep, it does not make any difference for an air defense system at this point
Russians never get to the point of "the emperor has no clothes"
>What caused the recent spike in downed Russian planes?
this is what Russia would like to know
Thanks, I enjoy USD dominance. Russia must kneel.
Only two planes have been confirmed. Just saying.
Okay Vatnik. I'm so demoralized.
Okay fatnik, you're demoralized.
How many dead ziggers does that pile of cash buy?
Russia is most likely using their planes closer to the front lines since they want to achieve an actual breakthrough.
What's the deal with taking unconfirmed numbers at face value when it pleases you? Is it a midwit thing?
Flight status???
Two planes have been confirmed, repeat after me.
Flight Status: Eternal.
you mean unconfirmed by the biggest liars on the face of the planet? yeah I'm not really worried about it
By anyone really. No visual confirmation.
>if I close my eyes, I can't see it
ostrich strategy
Show me something other than the two confirmed kills.
>proooooooofs
We get it it pidor, it has been and will continue to be deflection step 1
I can't tell if you're false flagging to make the Ukraine supporters look like idiots or it's an honest attempt at arguing.
Very organic and neutral post
>PROO-PROO-PROOOOFS?
Vgh, a retvrn to tradition
Dude I just shot down a fighter jet. Can you see it? No.
Yeah its literally 20 miles away in an active combat zone just whip out your phone bro
It's literally in your imagination.
Ok vatnig
Ok fatnig
>Ok, those were confirmed but it's impossible for others to be shot down, russians said so! Just like they said about those planes that were confirmed to be downed.
Kys vatBlack person.
I don't say it's impossible, but if you claim something, the burden of proof is on you.
>we don't have pics or proof but we definitely shot them down trust me bro
Lmao you're still trying?
I just shot down your mom with my dick
I hope I have half as much grit and class as that guy when my time comes.
Huh.
What you're seeing there is the phenomenon known as бoлoтный гaз, its very common in the region.
Why isn’t Ukraine releasing more plane shot down graphics and just wipe them out already?
My bet is increased pressure on the russians to make some gains is causing their airforce to take more risks, resulting in more clapped planes. This is coupled with a shortage of standoff munitions so they need to keep getting closer to have any effect.
>What caused the recent spike in downed Russian planes?
At least one (but more realistically probably at least three or even four ) of Boris Johnsons finally had enough of russian shit, grabbed a Starstreak launcher and ghillie suit, and currently is operating deep behind russian lines hunting flying ziggers. There are unconfirmed claims that he also uses zodiac boat to set up ambushes for planes flying over the sea.
epic photo, saved for shitposting
Usage of Boris Johnson replicaes should be a warcrime, weaponising the modern British "people" should be a warcrime
There's a Patriot battery that's gone mobile and has been running up and down the lines for the past few months. Ivans never expect long range missiles beyond a certain point, and as far as they're concerned, all of Ukraine's heavy AA is occupied with city defence. Those things can reach out over hundreds of kilometres.
I've taken to calling this battery the Nomad Patriot. I think it has a ring to it.
>Dec 23, 2024
Anon that's literally two months ago. It takes a year at least to retrain a pilot on a new system.
>2 months ago
The cope cycle continues, i look forward to when the russian af is grounded and the cope is about how you didnt need it
The wrath of Patriot-sama
>Russian breakthroughs
where?
There are none, hence the doomposting
It's good of you to visually represent ALL of the remaining TOs-1's and KA-52's on your image. It is important to highlight the endangering of such species
More aggressive use of paint.exe.
Ohnoes, such a desperate attempt to spread puccian lies
why are russians so bad at flying? don't they know they're not supposed to hit the missiles?
Hmmmmm
dont help, just keep driving lol.
to be fair the pilots have pistols and if you're just a civilian then calling it in is probably the smartest thing you can do. probably a lot of rare Russian gear on the guy that would go for a mint on eBay if you killed him tho. But again he would be useful as a prisoner and interrogated.
>probably a lot of rare Russian gear on the guy that would go for a mint on eBay if you killed him tho.
dunno why but this was a really sobering post
Just run him over in your car.
>нe мoи пpoблeмы
honestly not sure if good bait or actual vatnik schizopost
There is no meaningful difference.
Can't figure if some of these super early announcements are a psyop to demotivate Russia or sometimes an Iskander does hit a jackpot and then we never see the stuff ( like Abrams ).
Common sense would dictate that during war you'd wan't the enemy hear the news about new deliveries from exploded assets. Not have warning year in advance, like it's some game release.
it's just David "the F-35 is worse than Russian and Chinese fighters!!" Axe being a mong
>Axe being a mong
>???
Can you elaborate on that? In English please. Is this one of Zigger idioms about eggs being counted or eyebrows rising?
"mong" is short for "mongoloid" which is an archaic term for a a person who has Down syndrome, a severe neurological disorder
>wan't
wa-not?
I got sick of Russian planes JUST FLYING OVER MY HOUSE
>two months ago
How long do you think it takes to train an F-16 pilot?
conventionally, about a year or less to convert for a trained pilot
but to get there you first need another year or two to learn how to fly
and Ukraine has a problem: before all this, they need to teach their pilots English, and also to operate highly digitised equipment
this is a known problem with less-developed countries with less technology, where a lower percentage of the population is computer literate
>f-16
>highly digitised equipment
this is no f-18
nonetheless, it's a tad more complicated than their Mig-29s and Su-25, especially when one also has to launch AMRAAMs, JDAMs, and HARMs
an AFU general said that the gulf between NATO and ex-Warpact education means having to find a hundred engineering grads (of the Ukrainian tertiary education system) just for the ground crew, and they have to learn English as well, remember
iirc the bigger problem is training the maintenance crews
most of the really gnarly shit will be sent across the border.
Gravity, what goes up must come down, sometime with a little help.
>F-16 surprise
The phase of eliminating the Russian airforce is under way, 25% complete is the starting line. Total tank and artillery death is complete and apc death heading to 90%. Helicopter death is at 33% nothing less than 75% will suffice for Russias planes. Bad time to be a Russian pilot.
Reality: 1 Su-35 was shot down by friendly fire
Reality, it was mo accident and claimed as a kill by Ukraine, which they have not done for prior Russian accidents.
Russian losses last 24 hours and total.
Aircraft Destroyed
339 +1
Aircraft in Russian air force pre invasion
1.379
% Russian air force aircraft destroyed so far
24.6
%
what's the deal with their pilots? 25% of airframes is bad but how many good pilots do they have?
Who knows although they have had quite a few accidents and losses with training pilots since the invasion as well, at least another 10 planes lost plus ones that had accidents due to smoking in Russia. They have flown them into the sea and into apartment blocks in Russia as well as just straight into the ground.
>accidents and losses with training pilots since the invasion as well, at least another 10 planes lost plus ones that had accidents due to smoking in Russia
The Russian Defense Ministry said on Wednesday that a Su-34 fighter jet crashed during a training flight. The two pilots who ejected during the plane crash and were later found and evacuated to the home airfield are safe, it said in a statement. "The plane crashed far from populated areas.20 Sept 2023
13 Aug 2023 — A Russian warplane crashed in Kaliningrad on Saturday, killing its crew during a training exercise, military officials told state media
2023
20 October - A Russian Air Force Il-76 transport aircraft suffered a runway excursion during takeoff from Hisar Air Base near Dushanbe, Tajikistan. A fire erupted after the aircraft veered off the runway, the fire destroyed the plane. No injuries were reported
20 September - An Su-34 crashed in Voronezh Oblast while flying on a training mission, the two pilots survived.
12 September - An Su-24 crashed in a deserted area of Volgograd Oblast while flying on a training mission, the pilots survived according to Russian state news agencies.
29 August - An Mi-8 belonging to the FSB crashed due to a suspected technical malfunction in a forest near Prudny, Chelyabinsk Oblast, killing all three people on board
14 August - An Aero L-39 Albatros crashed while landing on an airfield in Krasnodar Krai during a training mission, killing the pilot.
12 August - An Su-30 crashed in a deserted area of Kaliningrad Oblast during a training mission, killing the two pilots on board. Authorities blamed the likely cause on a technical malfunction
17 July - An Su-25 crashed into the Sea of Azov off the coast of Yeysk, Krasnodar Krai, after suffering "engine failure" shortly after taking off for a training flight, killing its pilot.
4 July - A MIG-31 crashed into Avacha Bay on the southeastern coast of Kamchatka during a training mission.
etc (and there are more)
fyi
Helicopters
Destroyed
325
in Russian force pre invasion
961
% Russian helicopters destroyed
33.8%
beautiful. what do would you expect will happen when Ukraine gets F-16's? will they go all out to try to get one kill for PR reasons, risking many of their own?
>what do would you expect will happen when Ukraine gets F-16's?
Modern planes don't need good pilots, it's not WWII with dogfights. Al they need to learn is how to safely take off and land, the rest is not mcuh difficult than to master a computer game. A child can do this.
then it wouldn't take a year to train a pilot on F-16 would it? just give them some basic controls and off they go
4 month to learn basic english, 3 month for take off, 3 month for landing, 1 month to accustomise with controls, learn basic comms discipline, learn how to fly in formation, 1 month for vacations and sick leaves
It doesnt take 4 fricking months of intensive training to speak basic english you moron, 5 weeks tops for someone to learn advanced english, probably another 2 weeks to learn the different terminologies and lingos of NATO traininf manual. You don't actually think Ukraine would send pilots with broken english to learn how to fly a state-of-the-art plane (for the russians) that's given to them reluctanty? They would at the very least be college educated and has a basic grasp of english already.
The most grueling part of the training is probably learning the new avionics that's completely different from ex-soviet planes and geeting their flight hours up.
Back when missiles were just a thing (when they were highly unreliable) the USSR neglected their battle-tested war veteran airforce pilots due to the same thinking as you." Missiles are a thing! You dont need more skill to pilot a combat aircraft anymore than you do flying a jet trainer." (this is proven to be a moronic idea after facing actually well-trained israelis pilots and got their asses handed to them.) I can't fricking believe I have to side with the reformers on this one.
It absolutely takes severel month to understand spoken language you'll have to listen to on comms.
>ou don't actually think Ukraine would send pilots with broken english
They actually send pilots with zero English because it is normal there. There aren't any pilots who know english. It's not Scandinavia.
>absolutely takes severel month to understand spoken language you'll have to listen to on comms.
Not when you're forced to lean on an intensive training regimen it fricking doesn't.
>There aren't any pilots who know english.
Most REAL degrees need you to learn basic english at least to pass it. Most of the best documentations and learning material is in english, especially shit like commercial pilots that ukraine is likely to draw the manpower from where . they definitely have enough pilots trainees that speak basic english at least for the first shipment of f-15's (and anything after that the training can be augmented from previous trainees), it's not scandinavia but it's not africa either.
>Not when you're forced to lean on an intensive training regimen it fricking doesn't.
For Slavic language speakers, especially when reaction time and accuracy of understanding are important, it does. English is very alien even compared with German or Spanish.
>Most REAL degrees need you to learn basic english at least to pass it.
Geople graduate from schools knowing English like after the first couple of Duolingo lessons. I see a pen, I see a desk, Save, Load, How do you do. They don't know the language even on A level and they forget even basics in a month after graduating, there's just zero incentive to speak it because it is not needed in everyday life.
>5 weeks tops
only SOF studies that intensively, and they're the elite of the elite
> They would at the very least be college educated and has a basic grasp of english already
as a matter of fact, no
you highly overestimate the English literacy of developing nations
>only SOF studies that intensively, and they're the elite of the elite
Pilots trains more than your average SOF grunt you dumbass. You really think the 50 or so pilots piloting advanced 107:0 K:D western supplied planes would train less than your average SOF grunts?
Those 50 or so pilots are orders of magnitude more expensive and valuable than a platoon of SOF soldiers
The difference is that SOF guys glorify and romantize the teaining while pilots take it as granted to learn that hard as a bare minimum requirement.
You are massively underestimating ukraine's population. Or the world's populationcfor that matter. They are a post-soviet state, sure. But from the million+ manpower pool they can draw from. There is definitely enough with the qualifications of basic english and aviation-related background for at least 100+ (very conservative estimate) pilot trainees.
>There is definitely enough with the qualifications of basic english and aviation-related background for at least 100+ (very conservative estimate) pilot trainees.
Absolutely false. Even if you replace "English" languuage with "Ukrainian" it will likely be false. They are young military flying school graduates, not some old civil aviation pilots who decided to become military. They all will have to study English from zero.
>They are young military flying school graduates, not some old civil aviation pilots
That would make even more fricking sense. Old civil pilots from the old ussr days can't speak english is a given. I the world is far bigger than you think it is.
There are more than enough englush speakers for them not to teach them from the very start. Some 20% of ukrainians can speak broken english and a further 7.5% basic english. That's 3.2 million or so ukrainians that can speak basic english at the very least. Even if you take only those with relevant experience and age. It would still be more than enough to fill out the first shipment of F-15's at the very least you mong
What if the probabilities are correlated? Could be that people with propensity for foreign languages are generally worse pilots.
you do not seem to know what correlation means.
correlation doesn't imply causation.
it's you who doesn't know what correlation means
>pilots speak English
>many Ukrainians speak English
>therefore many Ukrainians can be pilots
lmao
...No. Did you fail statistics? Ability to fly aircraft is not related to which language you speak, holy frick.
Diversity and ESG training
Russia could be running low on counter measures or Ukraine has tweaked their missiles to defeat Russian flares.
The general consensus seems to be
>dwindling Russian missile and drone supplies reduces strike package volume
>additional western AA assets allows AFU to distribute AA assets across a wider area
>longer range munitions for AFU arriving in higher quantities
Which explains why some of these Russian aviation shoot downs have occurred deep into occupied territory
nice try ivan, im not telling
>why are the ukies suddenly claiming way more kills?
Could it be cope about losing their tiny village?
Always funny to see /cum/chuggers denying what actual R*ssoids themselves already confirmed.
The orcs claim, as always, that it was the doing of their own AA. Still not sure why they think that's less embarrassing than having the enemy shoot them down.
Fortunately, we started the pilot training 1 year ago
>What caused the recent spike in downed Russian planes?
In modern Russia, surface to air missiles missile you
they probably got shot or forgot to put gas in it
>F-16 surprise?
How surprise they are? How easy is to detect them for Russia?
I wouldn't worry about it. The US is far too weak and divided to be sending air assets abroad. We are a broken nation. DO NOT observe sudden destruction of Russian core military assets in line with American approval of strategic support. USA is of shitty and cannot fight we have too many of Black, israeli, Anglo and Polish blood to of fight noble Rossiya.
Couldn't be F-16s, we'd likely see a LOT more Russian air casualties than 1 or 2 a day.
What makes you assume russians can fly more than 1-2 sorties a day?
Just look at the junk their ground forces are using and imagine the state of their aircraft maintenance.