The head if you have anything less then a belt-fed mg. I think an M2 browning could get through those legs/neck as well, good luck hitting any vital organs though
Headshots wouldn't work. Dinosaurs had two brains, remember?
The head if you have anything less then a belt-fed mg. I think an M2 browning could get through those legs/neck as well, good luck hitting any vital organs though
A Karl Gustav or something like that. You need an absolutely heap of penetration and wounding capacity. I don't think even 50BMG or 14.5 would be up for it. An anti-structure shoulder fired rocket would probably do it.
No idea. I guess the front shoulder? It's heart is probably somewhere around there and maybe you can damage it's leg enough it won't be able to move.
>hunt
Sauropods are my frens. I would relentlessly hunt and murder poachers tho, especially those few richgays here that hunt because it makes it look "manly", i especially hate them
You need something around a 0.50 to deal with the elephant
The best place to hit this thing is obviously to break its neck, which should paralyze it in short order
Its neck is so thick, you need something really powerful to blast through all that muscle and sinew to sever the spinal cord
Hence realistically you need at least something like an NTW-20, or a Barrett or TAC-50 with fancy 0.50 BMG AP ammo, and probably even a 25mm or 30mm cannon for reliable one shot stop
Would it be sufficient to just figure out the minimum energy and/or penetration required for elephant, and scale up proportionally? If so, let’s say 50BMG is sufficient for a male African elephant. Those weigh 13,000lbs, conveniently about one foot pound energy per pound body weight. The biggest sauropods weigh about 200,000 pounds. So 200,000 foot pounds energy. ~15x more than 50BMG. So that’s a 12,000 grain 1.23” (31mm) caliber bullet at 2900fps. This is tank gun territory, right?
this is a really fun thought experiment, because it wouldn’t be an easy thing to do, unlike the question of how one would deal with zombies or whatever. Like if I sent you back in time to dinosaur era, with all the luxuries and conveniences of the industrial revolution, you would still have a hard time dealing with dinosaurs. You need frickhuge guns to deal with the huge, fast and aggressive gigafauna, and then you need an American 180 or similar with infinite mag capacity for those little frickers that attack in packs, and then something in between for like 200-10,000lb dinosaurs for whom the first 2 weapons are overkill and underkill, respectively.
This is now a serious thread. You’re going back in time to when the dinosaurs ruled the earth. You get to take back with you an RV, and whatever you can fit inside. What do you take with you, weapons-wise, to be sure that you can deal with anything that comes your way?
Elephants are taken with MUCH less powerful rounds than .50 bmg. The stereotypical elephant gun is single shot chambered in .577 nitro express, which has 7k ftlbs of muzzle energy. .50bmg is close to twice as powerful at 13k ftlbs. A semiauto rifle in .50 bmg is sufficient to kill anything that has ever walked the earth or swam the seas. It will turn a T-rex's head into canoe and easily get through a bronto's rib cage and frick up the entire thoracic cavity.
If you hit it in the head, sure. But a single round for a 70 ton land animal or a 200 ton whale? Don't think so.
With the largest land animal you're talking about an animal 120 feet long with the mass of 12 -16 adult male African elephants (the largest ones).
The difference in scale between a large African elephant and one of these is larger than the difference between a 10 month old baby and Thor or Eddie Hall.
Depends heavily on where you land in time. Most of the time dinosaurs weren't very much bigger than the big game of today, but there were times where some things got huge, and out to kill you. If I landed in the Turonian or Cenomanian stage of the Late Cretaceous period with giant carcharodontosaurid carnosaurians walking around, I wouldn't settle for anything less than a bolt-action rifle with .600 Nitro Express, maybe .577 Tyrannosaur for shits and giggles.
Friendly reminder that density of atmosphere during dinosaur times approached water so guns would worry very bad (like underwater).
And if course nyi human or animal from our time could survive back then.
https://www.dinosaurtheory.com/solution.htm.
. . . FACT!
>Americans really trying to convince themselves hunting Bronto with .50 BMG is at all ethical simply because they are too cheap to import 14.5mm or get a 20mm Anzio rifle.
so these things were larger than the biggest whale that now exist? Can those be killed with guns? Or is the water making it impossible and harpoons along with colossal nets must be used?
Whales have massive blubber stores that are incredibly hard to get through, a land-based dino will still have a thick hide, but nowhere near as thick as a whale’s
so one would need some sort of recoilless rifle, b-10 or something like that, if you wanted to kill that huge dino in one shot? With a very specific type of shell? HE-FRAG?
As always, the effects of wounds depend on enough different and uncontrollable factors to effectively have a large random component to them. Contrary to CoD it's also often not a matter of being fine as long as you have HP remaining and then suddenly being dead when you don't. So the question is how quickly do you want it dead, how good a shot are you, and how much insurance against effectively bad luck do you want? Of course, we're nowhere near having the knowledge necessary to put actual numbers on all of that for humans, so have fricking fun trying to figure out just how sturdy an animal that hasn't been around for quite a few dozen of millions of years was.
Only if Sauropod meat tastes good would I hunt this. I hate trophy shit. Would probably need an elephant gun or a .50 cal weapon. Not because it has thick skin.
.45ACP
120 mm APFSDS
Where would you even shoot it
The head?
Headshots wouldn't work. Dinosaurs had two brains, remember?
No.
The head if you have anything less then a belt-fed mg. I think an M2 browning could get through those legs/neck as well, good luck hitting any vital organs though
A Karl Gustav or something like that. You need an absolutely heap of penetration and wounding capacity. I don't think even 50BMG or 14.5 would be up for it. An anti-structure shoulder fired rocket would probably do it.
No idea. I guess the front shoulder? It's heart is probably somewhere around there and maybe you can damage it's leg enough it won't be able to move.
22LR
me on the left 🙂
9mm
.22lr, it's shot placement that matters, aimlet
>hunt
Sauropods are my frens. I would relentlessly hunt and murder poachers tho, especially those few richgays here that hunt because it makes it look "manly", i especially hate them
Did you also grow up on “The Land Before Time”?
No but what happened to the beaky actress was repugnant
unaware. What happened?
>>>PrepHole this isnt a reddit thread about your disney cartoons or celebrity drama
Abused and eventually killed by her alcoholic father. Yeah my mistake, ducky was her name in english
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Barsi
>lazy frick dad killed brontosaur again
>have to eat fricking brontosaur stew for the next three months AGAIN
>three months
I bet you could live off a single brontosaur for a year if you and your family know how to properly field dress it and cure the meat
There's probably 10 tons of meat on that thing
Probably more like 15. Lotta gut lung tissue though.
con un argentinosaurius te hacés alto guiso
You need something around a 0.50 to deal with the elephant
The best place to hit this thing is obviously to break its neck, which should paralyze it in short order
Its neck is so thick, you need something really powerful to blast through all that muscle and sinew to sever the spinal cord
Hence realistically you need at least something like an NTW-20, or a Barrett or TAC-50 with fancy 0.50 BMG AP ammo, and probably even a 25mm or 30mm cannon for reliable one shot stop
Would it be sufficient to just figure out the minimum energy and/or penetration required for elephant, and scale up proportionally? If so, let’s say 50BMG is sufficient for a male African elephant. Those weigh 13,000lbs, conveniently about one foot pound energy per pound body weight. The biggest sauropods weigh about 200,000 pounds. So 200,000 foot pounds energy. ~15x more than 50BMG. So that’s a 12,000 grain 1.23” (31mm) caliber bullet at 2900fps. This is tank gun territory, right?
this is a really fun thought experiment, because it wouldn’t be an easy thing to do, unlike the question of how one would deal with zombies or whatever. Like if I sent you back in time to dinosaur era, with all the luxuries and conveniences of the industrial revolution, you would still have a hard time dealing with dinosaurs. You need frickhuge guns to deal with the huge, fast and aggressive gigafauna, and then you need an American 180 or similar with infinite mag capacity for those little frickers that attack in packs, and then something in between for like 200-10,000lb dinosaurs for whom the first 2 weapons are overkill and underkill, respectively.
This is now a serious thread. You’re going back in time to when the dinosaurs ruled the earth. You get to take back with you an RV, and whatever you can fit inside. What do you take with you, weapons-wise, to be sure that you can deal with anything that comes your way?
>What do you take with you, weapons-wise, to be sure that you can deal with anything that comes your way?
The modern influenza virus
Elephants are taken with MUCH less powerful rounds than .50 bmg. The stereotypical elephant gun is single shot chambered in .577 nitro express, which has 7k ftlbs of muzzle energy. .50bmg is close to twice as powerful at 13k ftlbs. A semiauto rifle in .50 bmg is sufficient to kill anything that has ever walked the earth or swam the seas. It will turn a T-rex's head into canoe and easily get through a bronto's rib cage and frick up the entire thoracic cavity.
If you hit it in the head, sure. But a single round for a 70 ton land animal or a 200 ton whale? Don't think so.
With the largest land animal you're talking about an animal 120 feet long with the mass of 12 -16 adult male African elephants (the largest ones).
The difference in scale between a large African elephant and one of these is larger than the difference between a 10 month old baby and Thor or Eddie Hall.
Probably some of the oddball cartridges for big-game rifles that don't see much utility in the modern world.
Depends heavily on where you land in time. Most of the time dinosaurs weren't very much bigger than the big game of today, but there were times where some things got huge, and out to kill you. If I landed in the Turonian or Cenomanian stage of the Late Cretaceous period with giant carcharodontosaurid carnosaurians walking around, I wouldn't settle for anything less than a bolt-action rifle with .600 Nitro Express, maybe .577 Tyrannosaur for shits and giggles.
37x249mmR
Friendly reminder that density of atmosphere during dinosaur times approached water so guns would worry very bad (like underwater).
And if course nyi human or animal from our time could survive back then.
https://www.dinosaurtheory.com/solution.htm.
. . . FACT!
The frick are you saying? Learn English you moron.
>Americans really trying to convince themselves hunting Bronto with .50 BMG is at all ethical simply because they are too cheap to import 14.5mm or get a 20mm Anzio rifle.
ISHYDDT. 14.5mm is the minimum for big dino.
700 nitro express
In full auto
.338 Norma, i'm not getting close to that thing
so these things were larger than the biggest whale that now exist? Can those be killed with guns? Or is the water making it impossible and harpoons along with colossal nets must be used?
Whales have massive blubber stores that are incredibly hard to get through, a land-based dino will still have a thick hide, but nowhere near as thick as a whale’s
so one would need some sort of recoilless rifle, b-10 or something like that, if you wanted to kill that huge dino in one shot? With a very specific type of shell? HE-FRAG?
As always, the effects of wounds depend on enough different and uncontrollable factors to effectively have a large random component to them. Contrary to CoD it's also often not a matter of being fine as long as you have HP remaining and then suddenly being dead when you don't. So the question is how quickly do you want it dead, how good a shot are you, and how much insurance against effectively bad luck do you want? Of course, we're nowhere near having the knowledge necessary to put actual numbers on all of that for humans, so have fricking fun trying to figure out just how sturdy an animal that hasn't been around for quite a few dozen of millions of years was.
Blue whale is heaviest known animal to have ever existed on Earth
Blue whales are the largest known creature to have ever existed.
One bore rifle
>Cooper is a professional
>misses 5 .50cal shots at a range of less than 50 meters
KWAB
I wouldn't, leave the lizard giraffe alone
Only if Sauropod meat tastes good would I hunt this. I hate trophy shit. Would probably need an elephant gun or a .50 cal weapon. Not because it has thick skin.
It's probably halfway between chicken and beef.
.308 would be fine.
14.5 KPVT
>tfw live just in time for chemists and biologists to produce edible dinosaur meat procured from dinosaur DNA
feels good man
.25 ACP
since you shoot it in the head the same caliber you would use to kill an elephant, the thing is so big it probably wont even notice you
This.
To be fair I'd use it to hunt anything down to rabit.
Slightly unrelated but does anyone ever make slug ammo for punt guns?
45-70
fricking idiots