What are the tactical advantages of using schools and hospitals as forward operating bases?
What are the tactical advantages of using schools and hospitals as forward operating bases?
What are the tactical advantages of using schools and hospitals as forward operating bases?
They have better structural strength than your average apartment building, also big and strong basements that were built with for the purpose of being bomb shelters.
You can also kvetch to international media when your positions inevitably get bombed and you frame it as "le barbaric enemy is bombing our schools and hospitals, pls help!"
2 More weeks till Kiev falls
nazis watch out
>Kherson offensive in just two more weeks!
>If you get bombarded into the stone age with no ability to respond, you win!
>bombarded into the stone age with no ability to respond
Lol, using the fire tracking map (FIRMS) we can clearly see russia has reduced their shelling by more than 50% compared to a few weeks back.
But in your delusional mind the Ukrainians sold all their HIMARS right?
In the past 1.5 months of fighting the Russians have captured 0.02% of Ukraine, and this is supposed to be the best army in the world according to vatBlack folk lmao.
No one here falls for your shit
Ughh ukrsisters?
Also they usually have high capacity infrastructure, large amount of electricity, usually decent network access, and water/gas/sewage.
It's big buildings that allow you to build a base out of them
Are the children attending school?
No
Then why the frick not use it as a base. It'll get bombed by the Russians regardless of what's it is
But I thought Ukraine using schools and hospitals as bases was a myth by "vatniks"? That's what newfriends on here were claiming two months ago.
rent free
Does posting that somehow undo reality?
Its war Black person, you use any advantage you can get, and when it gets bombed you get to call vatniks barbaric war criminals.
Remember when ukies accidentally S300'd their own apartment building and everyone reported it as a russian missile attack ? At that point i knew that ukies won the propaganda war, and thats a good thing, frick vatBlack folk.
he admits its a propaganda war and that hes been zogged and sees nothing wrong with that
>zogged
You already robbed that term of any meaning, you cheap glavset prostitute.
repurposed civilian buildings on the frontline are evacuated and do not in any way justify bombing random civilian building miles away from the frontline while they are in normal operation
have a nice day
The claimed use of human shields was what was disputed, not the use of ostensibly unpopulated civilian buildings
kvetching about schools was always dumb, on both sides. It's not like there are children attending them in an active war zone.
Depends, one school was used as shelter and not military base and Russia still bombed it
in all honesty, public buildings shouldn't be used as shelter in this conflict, since they're primary staging grounds for all involved parties.
the average redditor or boomer moron don't know that obviously enough.
You do realize a summer break in ex-ussr ends in september, right?
So Ukraine using schools as military bases ends in a month?
I doubt there will be lessons at all.
There's no way kids are returning to schools anywhere near the front in September.
Coincidentally, there's no way kids are returning from the front by September, either.
Cruelty is a tell of frustration, not strength. Lesson there.
>typically a multi story, structurally sound building
>typically already government owned
>typically located near or around urban centres, major roads, logistical hubs and other strategically significant locations
>lots of room
>typically already contains bathrooms, food preparation areas and sleeping quarters, or can be easily converted to such
typically has good sight lines due to large carparks, sports ovals and the like
>typically either already has a helipad or has areas that a helicopter can easily land on
Did I miss any?
>getting righteously flattened by opfor allows you to screech about non-existent genocides
righteously flattened by opfor allows you to screech about non-existent genocides
Hey I've already seen this episode!
>only 60 deaths (according to Russia) after 8 years of non-stop genocide against poor dondbabweans 🙁
that's just the kids tho and it was established in 2015
So in 1 year, in which were blodiest fights [pre war] only died 60 kids and you still acuse Ukraine of genocide?
just wanted to point that out, i'm not claiming shit
>Russian makes claim
>somebody refutes it
>I'm not saying anything, I'm just asking questions
every time
they're like wienerroaches creeping out when the light isn't on
to hell with donbabweans and ruskies as far as i'm concerned, i'm just pointing out facts
doubt
then keep doubting. vatnigs can frick off with their homosexual invasion and lugandans can choke on their krokodil chode, but if your panties get into a twist after a tiny info correction made by an anonymous autistic frick replying to a shitpost, you can choke on a one too
>the enemy who is fighting for national survival, is using unfair debate tactics online :~~*(
Is this really the best you got?
Nobody's saying you can't commit war crimes if you really want to, we're just saying you don't get to complain when the other side commits war crimes in response to your war crimes. Those laws were for your protection.
>non-existent genocides
Like Bucha? I knew the kacap would start spamming that amnesty international statement the moment they made it. The answer is the Russians will gleefully shell apartment buildings, schools, orphanages and anything, so it doesn't matter.
>Classroom chairs and tables can be easily removed, allowing rooms to be rapidly repurposed
>On average corridors are wider than normal, perfect for moving around supplies, gurneys,etc
>Typically the school will already have a PA system for ease of communication
>Schools are already built all over the country
Spawn camping
where are they supposed to go, up your ass? Stupid Black person. Blame everybody but the fricking Russians.
>pic says schools
>OP says schools *and hospitals
Trying to pull a sneaky there, OP?
someone post the video of the 40 russian soldiers playing an accordion in a school gymnasium
>government owned
>empty from civilians during a war
>already built like military bases
As far as available buildings go, schools are often well suited for it. It's not like they don't expect the Russians to level it all anyway.
This just in: Reddit confirms schools and hospitals are valid military targets.
oh wow, they ATE and SLEPT in a hospital and shoot NEAR a hospital, what an animals!
In the meantime Russians stack comically large ammo dumps in Donbas next to residential buildings, but that's okay - just like their invasion
Or near and in a nuclear power plant. What are the odds the soldiers were mostly injured?
Are we sure they dont use it for casualties? I mean is it a real military base or is it a military hospital? And after Russia bombs hospitals, why not station soldiers to defend hospitals?
The connection and casulity is too thin for me. It sounds as if they see a injured soldier and say it is now a military base.
This just in, glavset hookers confirm nuclear power plants are valid military bases
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/01/world/europe/ukraine-south-counteroffensive-nuclear.html
Who gives a shit slava ukraine
>amnesty international
/misc/ listens to amnesty international now?
What's wrong about AI? They are based af.
Frick off
You just think they're based because they whine about Israel all the time.
There aren't any kids at a school if they don't have to be.
there's a ukrainian FOB at OP's mother's bedroom
I wish Ukraine actually did commit warcrimes 🙁 I want to see entire fields of impaled vatniks and raped Russian girls
>raped Russian girls
The russians already raped all of their "girls" there
this but unironically
>saw reports about rapes in belgorod where russian soldiers were stationed in april or smth like that
I'm pretty sure every russian girl has been raped at some point of their lives, either by a father, uncle, cousin or something like that, the culture sort of lends itself to it and would explain their behaviour online.
>uncle
you're memeing by i once checked some russian hashtag on twitter about this kinda stuff and holy frick, uncles molesting 12 year olds are not that rare out there, especially in small towns far away from european part of russia
this shit was unironically depressing as frick
I'm not memeing, it's essentially part of their culture.
Makes the fact that they named their McD's knockoff "Uncle Vanya" kinda sinister, doesn't it?
>/pol/tard quoting amnesty international as source
oh my, what time to be alive...
>schools have been closed to students since the conflict began
so, nothingburger?
It's cute how Oinkrainian apologists have gone from gaslighting about Ukies hiding in schools and hospitals to pretending it doesn't matter. Whatever you gotta do to win the internet argument, amirite?
:^)
how many times have I bbbrrrraaaaaaaaaaapppppppppt to your posts at this point
Roughly the number of times you've been laid. Which in your case, would be zero.
Something about throwing stones from glass houses
Oh no! Not the Infinity Gauntlet! Putin will get all the banana!
It doesnt matter though
:^)
There is a difference of hiding and making it a base and have soldiers be treated in a operational hospital. They even state that most building are closed.
>if you get invaded by a foreign army you can't hide in schools
uh okay then
>use this against ukros
>forget that amnesty blames russia for 10x more including bucha and irpin
which is it vatniks, is amnesty reliable or not?
>Amnesty publishes several very damning reports on Russia's actions
>suddenly, a unsubstantiated opinion piece parroting Russian propaganda appears from a higher up in Amnesty, completely undermining their credibility
What a serendipitous coincidence.
>and hospitals
Mentioned where?
>What are the tactical advantages of using schools
Schools are a very effective building type for general military uses. And as state built buildings their military use has been taken into consideration in their design.
What are the strategic advantages to leaving your comrades to die for 50 dollars worth of equipment?
https://streamable.com/gsz1lv
>this thread again
did the last one not humiliate you enough ?
Soviet schools were literally designed to serve as hospitals and bomb shelters once SHTF, they have nice visibility, multiple entrances and are built to withstand some degree of bombardment.
I remember being a scout and sleeping in those schools during organized trips, shit really can hold and faciliate hundreds of people easily.
>putting your defences and soldiers inside a city is now a war crime
This changes the tone of lots of films
I really think Sauron was just trying to protect Mordor from the humans and elves.
diddle kids while you wait to get bombed
so vatties admit amnesty international reports now?
Sources are true when it benefits them, false when it doesn't.
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ukraine-further-evidence-russian-war-crimes-bucha-and-other-towns-new-report
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/04/ukraine-russian-forces-extrajudicially-executing-civilians-in-apparent-war-crimes-new-testimony/
What is the tactical advantage of blowing up a theater full of children?
https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/5713/2022/en/
Pros:
>Readily made, (presumably) well built and maintained buildings
>Internally compartmentalized
Cons:
>Angry civilians, especially if not "near" the frontline
>Made to withstand weather. Not cruise missiles, anti-ship missiles, or ghetto-rigged AA missiles.
>Neither are the 750 other schools you just made into military targets
At least when the US blows up schools we apologize
The Russians just try to rationalize it, and pre-justify why they're gonna blow up other schools
then gloat about it
Don't you know, eating 2 or 3 spoonfuls of shit every day actually has health benefits? Stupid westerners aren't eating ENOUGH shit!
Russians go out of their way to bomb them anyways so you might as well reduce civilian casualties by keeping enemy bombardment confined to those areas.
You'd think Ukrainian forces wouldn't want to shelter in schools and apartment blocks, given that those are things russia pretty much prioritizes as targets as a way to maximize their warcrimes and atrocities.
Commie blocks are pretty sturdy and provide a good field of view, far safer than wooden houses where a single Russian shell blows it up.
With a commieblock Russia needs to use at least half a battery.
Tl;dr
Schools and apartment blocks have more healthpoints
If this happened in the US schools would be useful because they are public buildings (no issue with the Third Amendment) and are designed to house large amounts of people and materials. They're also generally in strategic areas since they have to serve the entire community around them. Same with hospitals. Same points others have mentioned.
If I needed a base of operations that was prebuilt to house large masses of people and equipment, a school is arguably the best place for it. Athletic fields and gyms for equipment, many rooms for housing, planning, medical, etc, large areas, usually gaps between the school and the next area/houses/businesses. Jails would be a good option too, hospitals also have a lot of administration room. If private buildings are an option, certainly a large retailer, shopping mall, Walmart, etc. Warehouses and manufacturing plants would be too valuable for production and logistics to utilize, whereas schools aren't going to be as useful during a war
What are the tactical advantages of using nuclear power plants as forward operating bases?