>What are the implications of this?
Setting precedent that the ATF can't just ban shit it doesn't like every time they get their panties ruffled without going through congress.
Ideally, but this was a executive order signed by President Trump.
that everybody forgot Vegas already
Don't worry, this is going to be played up a lot in the coming elections, they'll make a big deal about how evil the Supreme Court is, they've already done this regarding carry and Roe V. Wade.
RvW was deeply unpopular though. Every ballot measure to restrict abortions failed in 2022, and every ballot measure to protect abortions passed. SCOTUS did not do itself any favors with it.
Roe V. Wade wasn't a very strong ruling, considering it was built on admitted lies. If people feel strongly about abortion as a right, then it was a pretty flimsy thing to rest it all on.
still not buying one of those moronic pieces of shit
Honestly, I never really cared about bump stocks, but what I did care about is the ban setting the precedent that you can just ban shit without a bill going through Congress, not that I think even those should be able to ban legitimate weapons, but that's beside the point.
They got differing circuit court decisions so it goes to SCOTUS to decide, they'll most likely strike down the "law", implications going to be a severe long term curtailing of the BATFE trying to ban new things via letter law and the same for EOs. Good news overall.
>Can anyone explain why they require a stamp anyway
It's been explained before but >NFA 1934 >originally they wanted to ban handguns too >well we have to make it illegal to cut down long guns then otherwise they'll take the place of handguns >handgun ban is rarted, gets taken off >SBRs and SBSs stay
That's not even the worst part. > 1939 > Be Miller > Get caught with a shotgun under an 18 inch barrel > Arrested, go to trial > District court rules law unconstitutional > Dumbass didn't even bother to show up to supreme court hearing after govt appeals, neither his lawyer to argue why the NFA is unconstitutional > Immediately go into hiding, only to get shot and killed > Law stays
Literally haven't had a challenge like this since then.
Why does nobody challenge the NFA and GCA outright?
These grifter organizations keep telling us it's because we gotta "chip away so we have a better argument"
But if that's the case why does antigun morons get to rip huge chunks in gun bills and cost us 5 years of taxpayer dollars defending this shit?
I think it's horseshit and people are just being pussies.
I bet that sounded smarter in your head.
It doesn't matter if it "sounds silly" it's in the constitution saying I can and should own anything my government possesses.
>I bet that sounded smarter in your head.
not really, its always been the case, you are just out of touch.
>it's in the constitution saying I can and should own anything my government possesses.
so? its pretty obvious that the government tries its best to ignore the wording of the 2nd amendment.
>Why does nobody challenge the NFA and GCA outright?
Because the majority opinion in Bruen, written by your god Clarence Thomas stated outright that the NFA was perfectly A-OK.
Because the NRA hasn't had any balls at all since the 1980s where they lobbied for the GOPA, a law which was overall incredibly good and protected people against a vast variety of common abuse and overreach by cops and the BATFE (GOPA widely being viewed as a serious threat by LEO and BATFE). The Hughes Amendment, which makes it so that new fully transferable machineguns can't be registered, gets tacked onto the bill in an attempt to kill it (and the circumstances of this shady in itself), but people bite the bullet and GOPA gets signed anyway.
Presumably the thought was that the Hughes Amendment in itself could be challenged later, but the NRA never decides to do this. Probably because they cuck the frick out in the 1990s, outright defending the 1994 AWB, a very horrid law which is part of the even worse Crime Bill (which has had horrible consequences for American society by itself), championed then by the currently sitting sleepy president. Ronald Reagan signs GOPA into law with a smile, proudly declaring that "machineguns have no place in American homes!", and given how the NRA turned, perhaps it was the plan all along.
These days, the NRA makes some limp efforts to stop gun control which sometimes works, but often not. They NEVER lobby to undo any kind of gun control at al, everl, all the stuff that has happened in recent years to loosen some law has happened in state and federal courts with preciously little effort by the NRA. Trump was a stupid homosexual for banning bumpstocks, but he also ended up doing more for gunrights than the NRA has done since 1986 by putting some conservative judges onto the Supreme Court, probably unintentionally.
The only thing the NRA is really good for these days is the insurances they offer, which actually aren't bad, but that's still a massive fall from grace.
Nothing. The feds will just seek appeals and reviews and other actions to keep the regulation in place. Until they can exhaust the plaintiff and get a different court ruling.
>What are the implications of this?
Setting precedent that the ATF can't just ban shit it doesn't like every time they get their panties ruffled without going through congress.
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH
Ideally, but this was a executive order signed by President Trump.
Don't worry, this is going to be played up a lot in the coming elections, they'll make a big deal about how evil the Supreme Court is, they've already done this regarding carry and Roe V. Wade.
RvW was deeply unpopular though. Every ballot measure to restrict abortions failed in 2022, and every ballot measure to protect abortions passed. SCOTUS did not do itself any favors with it.
how the frick do we fix women?
Stop caring about abortion moron. The black population will explode when it is banned
*rubs hands*
Genetically engineered catgirls for domestic ownership has always been the answer.
They don't if you aren't a b***h.
t. Never even got a speeding ticket
Start having sex with chickens ig
Women and demon are only one letter off. Abortionists are demonically possessed.
Roe V. Wade wasn't a very strong ruling, considering it was built on admitted lies. If people feel strongly about abortion as a right, then it was a pretty flimsy thing to rest it all on.
That's fine, as long as it's not banned.
>built on admitted lies
she can identify as a rape victim if she wants
>Tierney Sneed
Boomers can ask the atf for refunds on all their devices they turned in or destroyed.
Atf.gov/refunds
> turning in your contraband
Uh uh uh, no refunds morons!
Oh no boomertards, we got too wienery...
that everybody forgot Vegas already
Honestly, I never really cared about bump stocks, but what I did care about is the ban setting the precedent that you can just ban shit without a bill going through Congress, not that I think even those should be able to ban legitimate weapons, but that's beside the point.
>tierney sneed
Those fricking digits.
They got differing circuit court decisions so it goes to SCOTUS to decide, they'll most likely strike down the "law", implications going to be a severe long term curtailing of the BATFE trying to ban new things via letter law and the same for EOs. Good news overall.
still not buying one of those moronic pieces of shit
B-b-b-boring. Wake me up when SBRs no longer require a stamp
Can anyone explain why they require a stamp anyway? Does anyone actually care about SBRs? I've never even once heard of a gun grabber mentioning them.
>Can anyone explain why they require a stamp anyway
It's been explained before but
>NFA 1934
>originally they wanted to ban handguns too
>well we have to make it illegal to cut down long guns then otherwise they'll take the place of handguns
>handgun ban is rarted, gets taken off
>SBRs and SBSs stay
That's not even the worst part.
> 1939
> Be Miller
> Get caught with a shotgun under an 18 inch barrel
> Arrested, go to trial
> District court rules law unconstitutional
> Dumbass didn't even bother to show up to supreme court hearing after govt appeals, neither his lawyer to argue why the NFA is unconstitutional
> Immediately go into hiding, only to get shot and killed
> Law stays
Literally haven't had a challenge like this since then.
Democrats will false flag a county event like vegas again,
>What are the implications of this?
Me buying a bump stock obviously
The price of ammo will go up slightly due to people wasting ammo with these silly things. Binary > bump
Why does nobody challenge the NFA and GCA outright?
These grifter organizations keep telling us it's because we gotta "chip away so we have a better argument"
But if that's the case why does antigun morons get to rip huge chunks in gun bills and cost us 5 years of taxpayer dollars defending this shit?
I think it's horseshit and people are just being pussies.
because saying "machine guns need to be legal" sounds very silly to everyone who isn't a gun guy.
I bet that sounded smarter in your head.
It doesn't matter if it "sounds silly" it's in the constitution saying I can and should own anything my government possesses.
>I bet that sounded smarter in your head.
not really, its always been the case, you are just out of touch.
>it's in the constitution saying I can and should own anything my government possesses.
so? its pretty obvious that the government tries its best to ignore the wording of the 2nd amendment.
>Why does nobody challenge the NFA and GCA outright?
Because the majority opinion in Bruen, written by your god Clarence Thomas stated outright that the NFA was perfectly A-OK.
>[citation needed]
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
Because the NRA hasn't had any balls at all since the 1980s where they lobbied for the GOPA, a law which was overall incredibly good and protected people against a vast variety of common abuse and overreach by cops and the BATFE (GOPA widely being viewed as a serious threat by LEO and BATFE). The Hughes Amendment, which makes it so that new fully transferable machineguns can't be registered, gets tacked onto the bill in an attempt to kill it (and the circumstances of this shady in itself), but people bite the bullet and GOPA gets signed anyway.
Presumably the thought was that the Hughes Amendment in itself could be challenged later, but the NRA never decides to do this. Probably because they cuck the frick out in the 1990s, outright defending the 1994 AWB, a very horrid law which is part of the even worse Crime Bill (which has had horrible consequences for American society by itself), championed then by the currently sitting sleepy president. Ronald Reagan signs GOPA into law with a smile, proudly declaring that "machineguns have no place in American homes!", and given how the NRA turned, perhaps it was the plan all along.
These days, the NRA makes some limp efforts to stop gun control which sometimes works, but often not. They NEVER lobby to undo any kind of gun control at al, everl, all the stuff that has happened in recent years to loosen some law has happened in state and federal courts with preciously little effort by the NRA. Trump was a stupid homosexual for banning bumpstocks, but he also ended up doing more for gunrights than the NRA has done since 1986 by putting some conservative judges onto the Supreme Court, probably unintentionally.
The only thing the NRA is really good for these days is the insurances they offer, which actually aren't bad, but that's still a massive fall from grace.
Nothing. The feds will just seek appeals and reviews and other actions to keep the regulation in place. Until they can exhaust the plaintiff and get a different court ruling.
Just another example of Trump not being able to accomplish a single thing of note