What are the best guns without Safetys?

I swear safetys are the dumbest fricking thing ever invented.
A fricking hug box bullshit add on that at best makes you look like a moron when the gun doesn't go off at the range or at WORST costs you your fricking life when the gun doesn't go off when you need it to defend yourself.
What are the best hand guns and long guns to get that dont have fricking safetys??
Looking for something for home defense mainly.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you have to be 18 to post here

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm 23
      its a bullshit mechanic
      every shitty gun i've ever used had a fricking safety and
      every
      fricking
      TIME
      it was on when i tried to take my first shot at the range
      they are most annoying frickin pieces of shit ever invented and i dont get WHY they fricking exist
      if you dont want to shoot?
      DONT LOAD THE FRICKING GUN
      DONT PULL THE FRICKING TRIGGER
      its not that god damn hard

      I think the "at best" part would probably be preventing a discharge you didn't intend.
      But if you care more about how others perceive you then that's cool too

      I dont leave my guns loaded and i dont carry them loaded
      its a stupid fricking mechanic
      also apperciate how you just dismissed the point of you fricking dying because you missed the opportunity with a home intruder

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >every shitty car i've ever crashed had a fricking airbag and
        >every
        >fricking
        >TIME
        >it deployed when i tried to crash into a brick wall
        >they are most annoying frickin pieces of shit ever invented and i dont get WHY they fricking exist
        >if you dont want to survive a car crash?
        >DONT PUT ON YOUR FRICKING SEATBELT
        >DONT HIT THE FRICKING BRAKES
        >its not that god damn hard

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You jest but people hated and actively resisted attempts at seatbelt and airbag improvements.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah a a lot of people, statistically, are fricking double-digit IQ morons

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Or, alternatively, they objected to being forced to do things by the government.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Like I said

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You misunderstand. These are rational people, who were considering whether they valued the marginal reduction in risk of death over the marginal increase in inconvenience and aggravation. Volvo carved out a whole niche for itself as the safest car on the market. What bugged people then (to the point of electing a president who appointed a guy to the NHTSA who promptly rescinded the rule requiring improved passive restraints from automakers), was that the government took away their choice and told them "you're going to do this."

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                some people are stupid enough that they need to be forced to due the sensible thing
                unfortunately, education/IQ based laws will never be a thing so everybody has to suffer the consequences of the LCD being a hazard to themselves and others

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                if such people are so stupid why do you insist on ensuring they survive long enough to reproduce??

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I disagree. Certainly on a subject like this, people ought to be allowed to make their own choices. The only people who will be affected by a refusal to buy more modern passive restraints is that they get killed in accidents others can survive. Darwin at work.

                Additionally, it wasn't a few. We're talking roughly half the country. The NHTSA's initial attempt in the field was going to be automatic seatbelts combined with ignition interlock systems. I'll quote Wikipedia for the rest:
                >This mandate applied to passenger cars built after August 1973, i.e., starting with the 1974 model year. The specifications required the system to permit the car to be started only if the belt of an occupied seat were fastened after the occupant sat down, so pre-buckling the belts would not defeat the system.[93][94]...In 1974, Congress acted to prohibit NHTSA from requiring or permitting a system that prevents a vehicle from starting or operating with an unbelted occupant, or that gives an audible warning of an unfastened belt for more than 8 seconds after the ignition is turned on.[94][96] This prohibition took effect on 27 October 1974, shortly after the 1975 model year began.[97]
                I want you to really consider how massive the public outcry must have been to prompt Congressional action on this. This is the sort of thing it would be loathe to wade into in the first place, and even if they had they rarely move this quickly. Whatever your opinions on them now, seatbelt and airbag requirements were forced down the country's throat. Unless you wanna go the next step and tell me the whole country's moronic and don't deserve the liberty they've supposedly been granted, this is more than "some people."

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >These are rational people
                They're not
                >who were considering whether they valued the marginal reduction in risk of death over the marginal increase in inconvenience and aggravation
                It is a substantial increase of safety& reduction of risk
                I understand you perfectly well

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >this dude got vaxxed and thinks bug protein is the future.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >zoomer
        opinion discarded

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't leave my guns loaded and I don't carry them loaded
        >He doesn't cc
        Come back when you're 18+

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and i dont carry them loaded
        Absolute window licker

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Went too hard too early, bad troll attempt

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          tsmt, OP's probably the same guy who makes the "AR15 dust cover is unnecessary and dead weight" threads

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sad attempt at trolling. Even sadder that you're getting replies, but at this point in the year of our Lord 20+24, your replies are probably bots. I hope you eventually find something more fulfilling to do with your time.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          trolling playbook for zoomers just fricking suck man

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the internet was a mistake

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >when the gun doesn't go off when you need it to defend yourself.

        >i dont carry them loaded

        So this is the power of double digit IQ.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Huuurrrreeeeee

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the "at best" part would probably be preventing a discharge you didn't intend.
    But if you care more about how others perceive you then that's cool too

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Glock trigger safeties are good enough for a pistol, why not a rifle?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A pistol is kept in a holster till it's ready to use. A rifle's trigger is always out in the open. So it's always open to have something snag the trigger.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can say the same for pistols which is why I'll never understand safetyless handguns. Pistols don't always live in holsters either, because then you can't shoot it, clean it, finger frick it, etc

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You have a hard time with reading comprehension? A handgun lives the majority of it's life holstered. At least one that is chambered and ready to go. You're not supposed to pull it out of its holster and finger frick it when you're in your car eating McDonald's in the parking lot. It's supposed to stay in the holster the entire time. So no safety is necessary.

          A rifle is slung on your chest/shoulder/back, it has no holster protecting the trigger guard. Any piece of kit/gear or something in the environment like a branch can get snagged on the trigger. This cannot happen to a holstered handgun.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        morons snag glock triggers on their holsters all the time. And there's no risk to snagging the trigger if the chamber is empty, it's safer than having the safety on with the chamber loaded.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No they don't. The holster is never the culprit of the trigger being snagged. It's that their shirt or drawstring gets in the holster and THAT causes the Glock to pop off. The only gun that's been going off in holsters without any foreign object inside of the holster has been the Sig P320s because sideways pressure on the frame and/or trigger releases the striker in that shitty design.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The holster is never the culprit of the trigger being snagged.
            Thank goodness nobody make shitty holsters.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >2024
              >Still using leather holsters

              Shiggy Diggy

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Leather holsters are the most effay holsters

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Most ofay holsters

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same reason AR safety goes safe-semi-auto instead of auto-safe-semi like on the original AR10s.
      >Low crawl through brush
      >random crap snags trigger (earlier random crap also switched safety from safe to auto, have fun)

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop. Read and fully understand the manual before using this firearm.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    brainlet absolutely filtered

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tokarev tt30/33
    As intended.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Steyr m9a1 has no safety

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick ya mudda

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jericho

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For handguns, I agree. Keep it in the holster and don’t touch the trigger if you don’t want to fire. For rifles, when they’re slung on your body and you aren’t using them, and they have a light single action trigger, it would in theory be very easy for the trigger to catch on something, especially if you’re carrying other equipment.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly. The issue is compounded with the light trigger pull that most people put on their rifles nowadays. Even a 5lb milspec AR trigger pull is pretty light compared to a DA/SA pistol

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP is the type of dipshit to sue the gun company when he accidentally shoots himself after dismanntling the safety on his gun

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Will not but WOULD absolutely sue them for being assualted in my home because the safety was still on while i was trying to stop a home intruder

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Company would file a of judgement as matter of law, judge would dismiss the case with prejudice in favor of the company. Congrats you wasted time& money on a frivolous case

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          *motion for summary judgement as a matter of law

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And here I was thinking maybe the reason they have those warnings of
      >gun can still shoot with no magazine inserted
      across the the frame is because of morons like OP
      Overall, dumb thread

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