What are some must haves from snap-on?
I’m building my box, so far I have chrome sockets, 47acf pliers 3 pod slip joint, screw drivers and socket wrenches
What are some must haves from snap-on?
What are some must haves from snap-on?
I’m building my box, so far I have chrome sockets, 47acf pliers 3 pod slip joint, screw drivers and socket wrenches
their fine tooth, flex head rachets are amazing. I don't really know if they're worth the price, but man are they nice to use. My snap on gear puller set is pretty awesome too.
Overall though, i really try to stay away from snap on. Way too expensive. Most tools it's really not necessary to have an insanely expensive tool, but if you're using something daily then it could be worth it...even though it's probably never necessary.
I don't have Snap-on but my god flex head ratchet spanners are a gift to wrenchers. Even a cheap set is great, but I still keep a regular set of non-flex spanners for leverage's sake.
Indeed especially in modern engine bays. By the time one breaks it will have paid for itself (the design has limits after all). I use fixed wrenches to break torque but if one doesn't quite suit I double wrench the flex ratchet since tools are expendable and the wise have spares (even if paid for in advance via tool truck brand warranty, then the spare you paid for shows up next day).
Sometimes it's useful to weld up a torque adapter from an existing tool so here's the TO for figuring out mechanical advantage or disadvantage. It's a goldmine of info for noobs and well worth a read:
https://www.robins.af.mil/Portals/59/documents/technicalorders/32B14-3-1-101.pdf
This classic (the center drawer in many machinists boxes fits the dead tree version) is another useful add to any mechanics library. No need for the most current edition:
https://dl.icdst.org/pdfs/files4/80364b03673ba30eb5ccf1e27e119ffc.pdf
i got a set of their short metric hex head allen keys in 3/8 drive and its by far the best thing that ive bought, i had matco ones before and they kept stripping hyundai transfer case check plugs. have not stripped one since.
absolutely nothing
poorloosers
frick you brandgay post your $20,000 metal box on casters
Best boxes are actually Lista, who will outfit your whole shop and do the CAD work for you. Snappy are passable but more a fashionista brand.
I’m gonna assume you work in a shop, and are part of a drivers route. Round swivel head ratchets. For me, more versatile than a flex head. My flex head has been relegated to spark plug removal, basically. Remember, just because the problem is directly in front of you doesn’t mean the solution is as well. Swivel head with an extension has saved my knuckles countless times.
It’s all overpriced and you can get most of the stuff of the same quality for better money. Some of it is the best, but there’s other “bests” tied at #1 for a little less.
If I had money to blow and just wanted a few Snappy things, I would buy all Snap On flare nut wrenches. A set of the FDX wrenches would be sweet too, but competitors have caught up for less money. I’ve heard the Snap On bit sockets are some of the best too. The couple tools where you really want the best tolerances.
Don’t waste too much on Snappy pliers
Second the flare wrenches too. I bought a used set and should have long ago.
I bought those too grips feel cheap
Ratchets. Sockets can be from anywhere but quality ratchets pay off for life. Their adjustable wrenches are superb too with the plating so slick it feels like they're greased.
>sockets can come from anywhere
Oh you were probably the idiot that owned that 240sx before we got it. Every bolt was rounded or stripped
Once again you are clearly talking out of your ass.
I have never rounded a bolt with a proper sized socket of any brand unless it was absolutely seized solid to where torch cutting was the only real option... Now open end wrenches and crescents are where the bolt rounding is at! Even then if you use a half of one brain cell you can spot when a bolt is too tight for an open end wrench or crescent by watching it. In that case use the closed end of the wrench or hunt down a 6 point socket. You should always get on a fastener with the closed end anyhow to break it loose as long as there is clearance around it to do so.
Machinist here worked in automotive for years before, let me explain how tolerances work…not all companies use the same tolerances on the same part, a harbor freight socket can be 10 thou over
While a higher quality socket might be max allowance 5 tenths over
The latter drives up manufacturing costs hence higher price to consumer.
The us military is supplied by skill craft, skill craft buys their items from snap-on which supplies them with willams, bahco and snap-on tools
Just because a socket is stamped 10mm doesn’t mean it’s a 10mm socket because those low end 10mm sockets have as much slip as maybe an 11 mm snap-on..
My everyday sockets are snap-on 6 point. I don’t trust any cheap dogshit that’s “just as good”
Sounds like you two are poor quality mechanics if you’re willing to accept such a low quality of tool to save such a minuscule amount of money,
$250 socket set that lasts 25 years of everyday use is outside of your budget but are here spouting about how your attention to detail is so keyed in that you were a tool room boy in the army when you enlusted
Why are redditors so preachy.
Well hell, when you think about it then, i'd be crazy not to take out a small business loan and will my organs to chinese oligarchs in order to buy 2 socket sets and a rachet from snap on.
You know snap-on is affordable if you pay cash right?
Those prices that you see on the website are for poor people That go $25 a week financed
If you have the cash it’s like $150 for two socket sets
Why are you financing $150?
Huh, funny, one reason i never bought much snap on is because I always pay cash for my tools, and the snap on guys pretty never cut deals for that.
But you have a dumb fricking name code, so clearly you're the one right here. I will for now on pay full price for snap on tools, and tell myself I got a deal.
Hey Dave, what’s the cash price on that you can do better than that Dave
Apparently that’s about $150 worth of work
Ah, don't let these frickos get you down, bud. You're doing god's work, lying on the internet like that.
The benefit to Snap-on is that you can incorporate it into your budget. Almost nobody buys shit outright, it’s not expected unless it’s a single tool. If your guy is cool he will cut you deals and allow you to pay it off over a longer term than what his district wants. My guy lets you spread out over 16 weeks whereas his superior really pushes him for 8 week terms. It builds up to quite a lot over time and before you know it you’ve got a lot of great stuff. A box should be the very last thing you buy (above say a U.S. general roll cab) because it doesn’t actually help you be more efficient. If you’re buying full retail snap-on from eBay you’re a fricking idiot. The only thing I would recommend to the average home gamer if they want something they’ll never wear out is a set of 3/8 ratchets. Fixed, flex, and swivel. All the utility that the vast majority of snap-on tools require a cost-benefit analysis of how much faster it allows you to complete very specific jobs. If you’re just some butthole in your garage who gives a frick. Piss your money away if you want but generally the bargain bin pick or tamper proof torx set will do what you need for the rest of your life.
>The us military is supplied by skill craft
Your info is a mix of outdated and wrong, so sloppy I know you're bullshitting because Skilcraft/ AbilityOne is not a mandatory tool source (nor is GSA). Skilcraft primarily do office supplies. Before SCIT most tools came via the GSA catalog unless provided by equipment manufacturers.
After SCIT which was many years ago installations are not restricted to the Federal supply system to buy tools and typically avoid it. Individual unit NCOs can contact vendors, develop requests then get that approved, modified or rejected via their unit Resource Advisor (USAF) or equivalent.
For decades since SCIT was instituted to fix the old horrible ways of buying whatever garbage GSA buyers got in bulk, each unit is free to deal with vendors directly. In the case of Snap-on, Lista, Stanley etc via government reps but going vendor direct is a matter of vendor policy not government.
For example when building F-16 phase dock kits I got the Lista and Snap-on reps together to laser cut the toolbox foam for their stuff then ordered specialt toos via the vendor & had the "local manufacture" tooling (normally slowly made by USAF shops) made by our local machine shop "as per sample" by bringing one. They got paid via government card.
>My everyday sockets are snap-on 6 point. I don’t trust any cheap dogshit that’s “just as good”
Good for you. I have some Snap-on, Matco, Proto, Williams etc too. Telling fit takes seconds. My personal sockets are a mix since there's no reason to buy or keep what DOESN'T fit no matter its source.
Who the frick cracks any sockets in quantity outside heavy equipment repair? Thou spoutest lovely theory (except for Chomsky steel which term we'll attribute to autocorrect) but in practice it's easy to instantly tell what suits and does not.
How sockets round fasteners, low quality Chomsky steel, usually stamped car-v or chrome vanadium, relatively ductile, relatively soft Rockwell…slop in the broached surfaces since the cheaper shit uses the worn out broaches and forging dies longer
Combination of slop and flex in the socket, when torque is applied under load tool flexes then snaps back into shape, contact with surfaces wear bolt face away.
That’s why your harbor freight sockets suck.
After repeated flex and use the chrome cracks or the base chromoly steel breaks due to fatigue failure, that’s why you’re cracking so many sockets…poor tolerances, poor materials.
You’re using this low end stuff in a professional environment and pretending you’re doing a tier 1 job but I can tell from your lack of understanding on why goidvtools natterbyour quality of work and attention to detail is low.
Just like the ender 3 gays, it’s your first 3d printer and you think your prints are fricking Amazing because you haven’t seen anything from a prusa or voron
That comes from tool misuse and using the wrong size.
I've probably been wrenching professionally longer than you've been breathing and my toolroom experience including specifying equipment purchases spans many years including outfitting civilian and USAF toolrooms. I was chosen for both because I've very good at it. Sockets are easy to make in spec and truly shitty ones are trivially rare. For automotive use buy six point if in doubt.
OTOH getting ratchets correct requires decent machining with tooling that isn't worn out because ratchet teeth require tighter tolerances than sockets, and reasonable longevity requires quality steel. Everything is made to a tolerance because that matters greatly. Cheap ratchets are sloppy and tend to skip with unfortunate results for a mechanics knuckles. Sockets tend to either function as designed or fail by fracture. Square drives on cheap ratchets easily shear. Not so on quality ratchets.
is wise.
i got every auto tool i own from harbor freight and ive never rounded a bolt in my life
Metwrinch my friend.
Snapon tools are like buying 20 dollar golf balls
Wont improve anything, proves you’re insecure
why does snap-on have such a huge following when there are other american made tool brands that produce just as good tools like wright or proto?
It's like phonies who swear that their $100 bottle of liquor is the best. You pay a lot for something, you convince yourself it's great.
So you’re mad that a professional has professional grade tools and not the bullshit you bought at the hardware store that you use maybe 3 times a year when you’re not working your retail job?
Lol, you're no professional. Keep larping video game boy.
lolwut? i'm not mad, i just don't understand why snap-on gets all the hype
i collect old proto tools and they are pretty good and even new ones are pretty affordable
Your argument is that
Anyone who owns snap-on is bad at doing anything mechanical because the tools are very expensive
Your argument is that people with cheap sockets and very cheap tool kits from harbor freight are the only ones who know what they’re doing
In my experience that’s not the case you guys with cheap tools do some fricking shit work
Because your cheapness extends to parts and repair, you’ll reuse old torn belts
You’ll buy used tires
You’ll buy the off brand part isread of oem
I think you’re just poor and that’s the only hate you have towards high end tools
Your argument is that
Anyone who doesn't own 100% snap on everything is bad at doing anything mechanical because they didn't have to put their farm up for collateral to pay for the tools.
Your argument is that people with only the most expensive snap on on brand tools are the only ones that know what they're doing.
In my experience it's not the tool that makes the man, but rather the person behind the tool. A poor craftsman blames his tools or someone else's tools for shit work.
Because your lackadaisical attitude towards money extends to parts and repair, you will throw new parts at something willy-nilly and not actually diagnose the core problem when doing a repair.
You'll make huge generalizations about everyone that are simply not true because you want to feel superior
You'll use reddit spacing
I think you just need to go back.
Snap on isn't really "bad", it's just way too cost prohibitive for most everyone, including professionals. I definitely have some snap on things, like stuff I use on every job, but there's no way in hell you'd see me with a whole snap on toolbox that's stuffed full of tools. There's just no justification to pay $200 for a screwdriver set.
And if you want to do that, that's fine, but everyone knows you're dumb for doing so.
>people with $200 screwdrivers suck at doing stuff
>they need to be more like me with screw drivers from dollar tree
> doesn’t do anything good…
>people with expensive 3d printers are buttholes and suck at printing
Well I guess I sick at everything, I suck at 3d printing because I own the best and most expensive on the market, I guess I stuck with hand tools because I made enough money wrenching and machining to buy high end tools.
I guess I sick as a machinist because I own mitutoyo calipers and don’t just use the cheapest way-mart ruler they sell at the school supplies.
Tell me this though. If you guys are so much better than me at everything why isn’t anyone buying your products over mine?
Since you’re so awesome at 3d printing why don’t you have enough money to buy a prusa but I was able despite sucking at everything….?
I sick at wrenching but I earned enough to buy a box full of snap on???
Why can’t you since you’re better? Why are you poor since you’re better than me
You can add sucking at spelling to that list as well... Or should I say sicking at spelling?
You definitely suck at life though.
So why are you poor of your god’s greatest gift to everything?
Why are you digging through other people’s trash to buy tools off of them since you’re the worlds best mechanic?
Maybe you sick and nobody wants your product?
>Maybe you sick
You got-damned right I am!
I didn't say you sick at everything, i just said you're dumb for buying a whole box full of snap on tools.
But i dunno, you clearly lead an empty, fruitless life, so if buying an obnoxiously expensive tool whose cost can never really be justified, then that's cool and all. Just don't expect anyone to respect you is all.
So you’re saying that I suck at everything however, my quality standards are also too high
Or quality standards have been established to be much farther below mine where does that leave you?
The quality of your tools your work and your craftsmanship is below the level that everyone has deemed to be suck quality, so I don’t know what you’re arguing…
Amateur work, begets amateur tooling I guess
Having nicer equipment being a negative trait in a professionals arsenal is wild to me. If you want I can charge you more and use lesser quality tools, cutting tools filament and printers if you want??
And instead of Kaiser aluminum if you want me to use a piece of China cast iron then I can do that too
well you definitely suck at both grammar and reading comprehension, i'll give you that. Don't really care to read any more into your dumb bullshit.
Just stop pretending to be a such a hot shot man, it'd be less work to just go out and be one. We're not even mad at you for blowing your money on snap-on tools anyway, because we all know you don't actually have either the money or the tools, so it's all good.
Is this the guy who's pumping out wooden 2x10 fantasy swords?
Autistic seething
Jesup Christmas I wish he bought a snap on vegana that way we wouldn't have hurt it so bad
Dude relax bro everyone knows you're too dumb to wrench. You don't even own a car do you?
It's okay kid, you'll make it one day.
>I'm gonna .. CONSOOOOM
https://shop.snapon.com/product/Dual-80-Technology%2C-Chrome-(1-2%22)/1-2%22-Drive-Dual-80-Technology-Extra-Long-Handle-Ratchet/SLL80A
This fricker right here
You can put a shitload of weight on it and it won't even think of slipping.
Thier universal chrome sockets are also the only have ones that has welded pins instead of the ones that fall out all the time.
Decent set of screw drivers, the wera kraftform 900 series, Finally chipped two of the flat heads by smashing out a rusted out c clip in a wheel bearing. They took 5 years abuse, handles still wipe right off like new.
A set of JIS screw drivers
>JIS screwdrivers not from Japan
Oh man I was out of town for a few days and I’m so bummed I missed this shitshow of a thread
Anyway, just get the Vessel Balldriver + drivers in whatever sizes you want. You can pick em up for like $5-$10 each on Amazon. Those are max comfy.
>GAY!!!!!
There’s a couple things where as a mechanic, you want to know that you have the best so when you strip a fitting with a Snappy flare nut wrench, it wouldn’t have come out with a better version that you were too cheap to buy, especially if you make a living with those tools.
Lots of it is man israeliteelry tho
A whole thread about Snap On tools….GAY
Tool autism is indeed gay. Real mechs are about the job not the brand. I built boxes and a whole workcenter on Uncle's dime but everything is about what's cost effective. My tool breakage rate is near nil because I'm not moronic.
I fricking hate tripgays. Especially the ones that suck off tool companies (for free).