This website is pure kino. They give a lot of info on their products giving you a chance for research. I guess there's a lot of bad reproductions out there.
https://militaryheritage.com/baker.htm
>cheap Indian made guns that they just drill the flash hole out on.
Dipshit. We're talking about muzzeloaders. You think pre-indistrial hillbilly half-literate blacksmiths were doing any better? The modern indian stuff, as much as it pains me to say this, is probably just as good if not better than what Cletus was making 300yr ago
you literally linked the >lots of bad repros
you implied you were avoiding. they are garbo, they are so bad a guy in Massachusetts made an entire career of taking those guns, making them work and reselling them.
they are the lowest quality muzzleloaders currently manufactured for sale. they aren't historically accurate or well made. locks are overly tight and unreliable, finish is poor and fitting is laughable. >just buy cheap garbage
STOP
IT
this is why everything sucks.
I mean anon, what we expect in quality today is leagues beyond what's historically typical. People in the past made and sold garbage and were content with it most of the time. You're right that people should save their money and get better goods, but it's important not to lose perspective.
yeah, dude, let's all remember that our hardtack used to have weavels in it, and now you could live off of pilot bread from Amazon and never have to knowingly eat a bug.
That means you should only eat pilot bread.
Or you could exist as (or strive to exist as) something more than the most base, depraved and thoughtless, joyless groundling.
>You think pre-indistrial hillbilly half-literate blacksmiths were doing any better?
At making the metal? Or at testing the gun before they sold it? You can't do that without drilling the touchhole.
>is probably just as good if not better than what Cletus was making 300yr ago
The difference is who is testing it.
pre-industrial gunmakers were part of the bourgeoise. They ran the trade through guilds (like every other skilled trade) and were affluent compared to the average person. They cared a whole lot about putting out high quality products.
The best factory produced flintlocks right now are Pedersoli's, I have a .50cal frontier rifle that I hunt with, it's great. Reliable and accurate once you learn the quirks.
I would recommend you dump the flintlock for a percussion rifle.
It’s literally the current year and percussion rifles are 100% less gay and fire 100% more often.
Yeah but they don't give you that satisfying CLACK PCHEEWWWWW and the shower of sparks. Percussion = modern rifle cartridge with all the components spaced out = boring. You might as well go hunting with a slugged shotgun.
>percussion rifles >slow loading > inaccurate >limited range
Bro just buy a winchester 1873 >cased charge >no more fiddling with dratted rods >rapid fire >drops Pinkertons and injuns lime apples falling from mama's tree
>manual loading >slow, poor ballistics bullets >limited magazine capacity >bro, just buy an AR, no more dratted manual action or weak cartridges.
you don't really like guns, do you?
my dick
Grim
That's percussion aka caplock you fricking moron.
>Um akshully
Dont care
Nobody's perfect anon. There's no sense in beating yourself up over it, just do better next time.
>coomers
>in charge of details
Let's make "doing percs" a thing
Let's fight about guns itt: no polymer long rifle will outlive tradwood guns. museum-grade examples will have wooden furniture long into the future.
Is that a Lyman? There's a Lyman plains hunter for sale locally (1000 dollars). I think Lyman is reputable.
This website is pure kino. They give a lot of info on their products giving you a chance for research. I guess there's a lot of bad reproductions out there.
https://militaryheritage.com/baker.htm
those are all cheap Indian made guns that they just drill the flash hole out on.
>cheap Indian made guns that they just drill the flash hole out on.
Dipshit. We're talking about muzzeloaders. You think pre-indistrial hillbilly half-literate blacksmiths were doing any better? The modern indian stuff, as much as it pains me to say this, is probably just as good if not better than what Cletus was making 300yr ago
you literally linked the
>lots of bad repros
you implied you were avoiding. they are garbo, they are so bad a guy in Massachusetts made an entire career of taking those guns, making them work and reselling them.
they are the lowest quality muzzleloaders currently manufactured for sale. they aren't historically accurate or well made. locks are overly tight and unreliable, finish is poor and fitting is laughable.
>just buy cheap garbage
STOP
IT
this is why everything sucks.
I mean anon, what we expect in quality today is leagues beyond what's historically typical. People in the past made and sold garbage and were content with it most of the time. You're right that people should save their money and get better goods, but it's important not to lose perspective.
yeah, dude, let's all remember that our hardtack used to have weavels in it, and now you could live off of pilot bread from Amazon and never have to knowingly eat a bug.
That means you should only eat pilot bread.
Or you could exist as (or strive to exist as) something more than the most base, depraved and thoughtless, joyless groundling.
>You think pre-indistrial hillbilly half-literate blacksmiths were doing any better?
At making the metal? Or at testing the gun before they sold it? You can't do that without drilling the touchhole.
>is probably just as good if not better than what Cletus was making 300yr ago
The difference is who is testing it.
pre-industrial gunmakers were part of the bourgeoise. They ran the trade through guilds (like every other skilled trade) and were affluent compared to the average person. They cared a whole lot about putting out high quality products.
>that's just garbage
>indians
Leaves without further elaboration
For modern you need a polymer stock, magpul furniture, and fiber optic sights
>no LAM
>no hydra mount
>not even a can
Thou shalt be slain in the thoroughfare
I fricked her btw
and she told me OP is gay also
I've heard great things about Kibler's kits. They make a a couple longrifles and a smoothbore musket.
The best factory produced flintlocks right now are Pedersoli's, I have a .50cal frontier rifle that I hunt with, it's great. Reliable and accurate once you learn the quirks.
Why is your cat 50% of the size of your rifle
Also what am I doing with this bag of hashish do you know
way it goes boys
I would recommend you dump the flintlock for a percussion rifle.
It’s literally the current year and percussion rifles are 100% less gay and fire 100% more often.
Makes sense if that's all you had and were depending on it for food/protection, otherwise flintlocks are more fun
Yeah but they don't give you that satisfying CLACK PCHEEWWWWW and the shower of sparks. Percussion = modern rifle cartridge with all the components spaced out = boring. You might as well go hunting with a slugged shotgun.
>percussion rifles
>slow loading
> inaccurate
>limited range
Bro just buy a winchester 1873
>cased charge
>no more fiddling with dratted rods
>rapid fire
>drops Pinkertons and injuns lime apples falling from mama's tree
>manual loading
>slow, poor ballistics bullets
>limited magazine capacity
>bro, just buy an AR, no more dratted manual action or weak cartridges.
you don't really like guns, do you?
Any of the kits available from Track of the Wolf. The pajeet repros used to be a lot cheaper, but they're not really any more.