No, not really. Pretty much all guntubers today have some major flaw and most have to do with monetization of their content. Paul Harrell is much better in this regard, but it's slightly offset by his autistic refusal to stop pretending it's 1993 and the most insufferable fanbase I've yet encountered, worse even than Dreamstans and Beliebers. Combined.
Leviathan is a marketing group that hooks up their YT channels with advertisement, and content opportunities.
On the face of it, nothing too troublesome. However a lot of their sponsorships are predatory, and a lot of their partnership opportunities are based on backroom dealings.
>However a lot of their sponsorships are predatory, and a lot of their partnership opportunities are based on backroom dealings.
Elaborate, alone this means nothing
1 year ago
Anonymous
The sponsors trick you into buying guns and ammo, forcing you to have fun.
1 year ago
Anonymous
This. How is leviathan group any different than the gun version of Costco perks? >predatory
That’s literally all advertisement and marketing. Do we hate gun companies that spend money on marketing campaigns and shilling products at shotshow?
I can be completely wrong here, im just saying I haven’t seen anyone explain what makes leviathan more explicitly evil than any other run of the mill capitalist endeavor.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Elaborate, alone this means nothing
It means they take money and in return influence their audience to buy shit. It means you are the product. It means you can't trust a word they say.
https://i.imgur.com/NMXHdx9.jpg
This. How is leviathan group any different than the gun version of Costco perks? >predatory
That’s literally all advertisement and marketing. Do we hate gun companies that spend money on marketing campaigns and shilling products at shotshow?
I can be completely wrong here, im just saying I haven’t seen anyone explain what makes leviathan more explicitly evil than any other run of the mill capitalist endeavor.
The difference is that Costco doesn't pretend to be reviewing products or providing commentary while secretly doing a paid advertisement at the expense of the viewer (ie lying).
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I was influenced to buy this thing I like! >:(
Jesus Christ anon, you poor thing.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Key word >influence
Suffer not a shill. Easier to be editorially independent when you are financially independent too. Money talks
1 year ago
Anonymous
>It means they take money and in return influence their audience to buy shit. It means you are the product. It means you can't trust a word they say.
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1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh you mean like having no corporate overlords? Isn’t that what that homosexual cuck Karl Kasarda says?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Advertisements for snake oil targeted at a young impressionable audience.
1 year ago
Anonymous
So every single advertisement since 1920?
The sponsors trick you into buying guns and ammo, forcing you to have fun.
This again means nothing, you are attaching adjectives to nothingness to say the nothingness is evil. How, specifically, in black and white terms are they predatory?
How did this board forget that words have meaning
1 year ago
Anonymous
Advertisers gonna advertise, but guntubers have a choice of who to take sponsorships from.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Okay but why is this choice a bad one? So far all anyone has said is that leviathan is a company that does advertisement which is literally every company. Hell any youtuber by virtue of being a youtuber does this
1 year ago
Anonymous
I dont want to watch 20 minute ads, just useful videos and impartial reviews. A youtuber receiving passive ad income is not the same as a tuber getting paid by gun product ad consortiums to review shit
>Why is Brandon listed twice?
Frick if I know but I can't stand that Black person. I want someone to explain to me how he became "The AK Guy" when he doesn't build anything and hires gunsmiths to do all his work.
I don't know why he is labeled as Brandon Herrera but he may as well be because he's just as cringe. He's some gym rat that does shit like "HANGING MYSELF BY THE NUTS FROM A PULLUP BAR LOLOL" "BODYBUILDER GETS SHOT IS THE **ASS** WITH PAINTBALL GUN!!!!!!!!" just zero imagination or creativity, peepee poopoo slapstick humor for the lowest common denominator of human society. I feel bad for him, honestly.
Brandon was a gentleman to let them shoot his guns. I say he had patience and made his point across, but those Ausie's don't understand American life. Typical.
Chuck Liddell routinely fricked high schoolers in the 805 after he got famous and it will eventually be common knowledge.
Vaguely recall some anon told you so when it comes out.
Can someone tell me what the hell happened to donut operator? I watched a couple of his recent videos and it looks like the man has aged 20 years in 1. Fatter face, raspier voice, just looks tired all the time.
I think DemoRanch is independent, but he's also cringe clickbait. I don't see Administrative Results on there either, but he's so close with GarandThumb that I'm sure he's part of this clique too.
>Forgotten weapons
Shilling plagiarist >C&R Aresenal
Kermit the Frog with emphysema >InRange
Batshit crazy trans rights literal cuckold
1 year ago
Anonymous
If the best you can manage against C&R is to call Obadiah fat, then they must be pretty good.
1 year ago
Anonymous
He's not a pleasant person to watch present a video. He wheezes through his content with a kind of exasperated old man energy. I stopped watching his videos unless I absolutely need info on a particular gun. They're uncomfortable to have on while I do stuff. Plus Mae adds nothing to the conversation and sits there like she's supposed to somehow be window dressing.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Mae is sort of useless, I do find her annoying. Personally, I don't really mind Obadiah's way of speaking, I actually do like to have him on in the background.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I think I'm sensitive to the fat basement dweller voice. A speech pathologist could tell me what I'm talking about but they all have this nasal gasping way of speaking with marbles in their mouth. I know people IRL to look like Othias and they talk the same way. Dudes into collecting old computers or model trains.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Make your own channel then.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No one can ever prove that Ian plagiarized anything and you motherfrickers have tried.
At best people can say that he repeats what he reads in books. Which, like, no shit.
Forgotten weapons, C&R Aresenal and InRange. Surprised zedra prostitute wouldn't be on here. Shame to see ordinance lab in the list.
I feel bad for Othais.
If he didn't get algorithm raped, C&Rsenal would be at least twice the size.
They deserve to be. Zoomers love long video essays.
Weaponized homosexuals are pretty much the forefront of every movement. Any normal person who designs 3D guns knows their only chance of survival is to fly under the radar and remain anonymous to the point of paranoia. I mean look at what happened to Cody Wilson and JStark. PSR is probably an informant since most gays are closet pedos and I'll bet my remaining testicle the feds have him under their thumb.
He WAS. Too bad he's a fulltime shill now
I kinda understand why he did it at first. I too thought what israelitetube did to him was unjust. But holy shit did he went overboard with it
Ad revenue from videos is laughably low. Unless a YouTuber is already sitting on a fat stack of cash or manages to run a channel as a side thing, they’re going to need other means of funding their shit.
He's grandfathered in for the old rates, he's doing fine. Any oldgay youtuber has the good old rates and if they have in-video adverts they're greedy fricks because they got the old click money.
This, I never see any ads or sponsorships, even "like and subscribe" gets skipped. I've got it on my FireTV too. Set the videos to 4K to lose Google the most money possible
Ian makes one video defending the P320 and you homosexuals are really so assmad you're going to call Ian a shill? He's probably done 5 promotions in a decade of making daily firearms content for you autistic morons. Just accept the P320 is a fine pistol lol
I guess Ballistol is sponsoring them now but like sure frick it I guess you gotta get SOME CLP from somewhere. 9-Hole shills their products and Patreon but again I don't mind, Henry and Josh otherwise keep it super professional.
So are you just going to spam Ian hate threads and then abandon them the moment anyone calls you a homosexual? I don’t even care for the dude and this is getting ridiculous
I like Misha when I want detailed information on a firearm, in kind of the same way that I can watch those two hour videos that one guy does on the history of various H&K firearms. No it's not one-liners, slapstick, and slow motion larp footage but it still entertains me.
Nutnfancy (Still the guntube king) (join TNP patreon)
Paul Harrell (zoomers need not apply, attention span longer than 30 seconds is needed)
Brent0331 (Tactics, reviews)
Christopher Larsen (Tactics)
SecurityGuy42 (Boomer Militia guy, Tactics (trigger warning for r/ukraine folks))
Risky Chrisky (Not a huge fan but he has some good videos on Tactics and LBE setups)
TheGruntPerspective (Infantry shit)
Hop (He hates pretty much everything which makes him trustworthy in my opinion)
Brassfacts (Seems like an honest guy)
Dooshbag’s brother, Dick (REALLY funny guy, gret videos on tactics and reality checks for tactical elitists)
NAVYMAN8903 (Good reviews)
SmallArmsSolutions (Very detailed reviews, used to work for colt and various other manufacturers designing guns)
I'm sure there's a few more but these are some of the ones I watch.
>Brent0331 (Tactics, reviews)
I've spent nothing but hours watching his camo test videos. What I do appreciate about them is that he doesn't do a camo in one season. He tries the same camo in different seasons to test their effectiveness.
>hop >brassfacts
Only two guntubers worth a frick: don't pretend to be door kickers, relate and practice to the needs of civilian life instead of gay mil-sim hypotheticals, and hate mostly everything and explain why with video footage of it fricking up or using it instead of "muh devgru doesn't like it/random internet opinion of the day."
>ties to at least three manufacturers (off the top of my fricking head, probably more) >weird elitist hangups over lame non-issues like forward assists and "loud buffer springs"
Yeah no.
Hop is more contrarian for contrarian sake. The logic he uses will sometimes contradict itself by stating X is bad for something, but that same thing is why Y is better in another video.
Uncle Ron is comfy. He's like textbook fudd in appearance, but I don't know enough about fudd-era hunting cartridges to say whether he's repeating otherwise harmless fuddlore or sharing quality knowledge.
Watching his videos is like watching a good episode of Anvil though. No shilling, no stupidity, just warm fuzzy entertainment.
Speaking of Anvil, I don't know why but it's not capturing my attention like it used to. I find myself scrolling PrepHole halfway through lately.
>Crazy how I instinctively only watch guys that aren't on the list.
Yeah. Everyone on that list is on there because they're pretty milquetoast and palatable for normies. at least 2/3 of them are like "500 WHITE CLAWS VS .338 LAPUA EPISODE 73!!!!"
Hardly any better than ASMR or "oddly satisfying" channels
Good God this guy is so fricking insufferable. No wonder Ian decided to ditch this gay. Didn't he also have a sperg out because Ian appeared in some other gun tubber's video, the guy who always wears a mask.
yea, I was big mad about the TWO videos shilling $50 mugs with a slight chance to win a used Sig p320 too. If you want a replacement for Ian: C&Rsenal and Royal Armouries
If you're a hasguns who shoots often you won't care for guntubers. If you're not watching their vids just to learn and are consuming it for the fun of things that's a surrogate activity.
I like how there’s anons in this very thread who don’t know about "new" (actually just present-day normal) media. They think that all those tiny home, van life, camping reviewers, etc channels are really just guys with a drone and some videography skills putting out free content.
I collect a kind of law enforcement equipment almost nobody else does. I have a huge collection and could probably shit out 200 videos focusing on various autistic historical/technical details. Should I become le ebig content creator? Y/N?
Not telling. No one's ever done a YouTube video on the subject.
you're the vintage police flashlight guy aren't you? I don't think you'd have a huge audience but I think the people who wanted to watch would enjoy it
Honestly, try it. Theres an autist on YT that collects deact explosives, and does fairly low technical-quality but good informational-quality vids on them. Its great. I watch almost every video.
Worst that can happen is you get popular and you get targeted by morons like happens to every other /k/ adjacent eceleb. Second worst is you waste an afternoon talking about one of your hobbies to your camera.
There is of course our very own Hoplopfheil and his life partner BrassFacts. I enjoy Paul's particular flavor of autism from time to time, and recently I watched a series of videos on the ACOG by this guy (https://youtu.be/MMJ1-b6CnRo) which were by far the best I have seen on the subject.
Otherwise I don't really watch much in the way of guntubers aside from the occasional random video that pops up, or old instructional stuff for when I can't figure out how to get the goddamned motherfricking piece of shit trigger return spring back in my M1 carbine at two in the morning on a Wednesday.
He's doing good, I think. Karl from Inrange was nice to link the donation page back then due to a condition. He's spending time with his family and living life.
>Ian distances himself from Karl because he's gone hard on the political angle >Ian classically doesn't bother with any of that shit and just keeps his content focused on the history/functionality of guns and range demonstration >Karl throws a shitfit >Now there's a surge of posts shitfitting about Ian on /k/
Really makes me think
>Ian distances himself from Karl because he's gone hard on the political angle
Say it with your chest, Ian distanced himself because Karl can't shut the frick up about trannies now.
It's not only trannies. Some rat Karl is, Ian tried to stay friends and would still collab despite all the political shitflinging until the arfcom spergout
Personally I couldn't care less about a made up genocide, but alot of pieces fell into place about Ian after what Larry Vickers said about ian regarding the AK book. Ian knowledge about topics is supericial at best and it's especially glaring if you read his chassepot to famas book. Him confirming he can't even hold a basic conversation in french during his interview of the ex GIGN instructor should clear up everything.
The good thing is that he popularized some firearms to normies, the bad is that moronic normies who know jackshit about firearm history etc genuinely believe he is an expert.
There is no reason to be against leviathan group. It's just a way for gun tubers to make sponsor money. YouTube demonetizes so much gun content it's understandable they wouldnt want to rely on YouTube ads for revenue. A lot of youtubers have handlers like this that gets sponsors for them. It's not easy for the YouTuber to make all these sponsor deals themself, and sponsors typically dont want to pay the youtuber directly. I really think the people against it are possibly glowies or some organized group.
Its a hard call.
LT opens up massive amounts of room for backdoor dealings and creators lying in order to get more companies paying them.
But without it, most guntubers wouldn't be able to make a living off of it. Or sometimes even have a channel at all.
>There is no reason to be against leviathan group
Conflict of interest resulting in potentially biased youtube videos. Sure, people need to make a buck, but it's how you do so that matters. I'd trust a guy who posts videos for the love of it, not for the money. Don't treat youtube as a day job, the ones that do treat videos as a means to an end (read: money) and not an end in of itself which spoils the integrity of the video. I really think people who talk in support of Leviathan group are paid shills themselves. It suits their MO
>youtube channel >don't spend half their videos shilling merch
you literally have to pick one
The adpocalypse made the self-sustaining Youtube channel a thing of the past, fricking greedy Google asswipes.
its 1/20th of the video. if you really hate manually skipping ads you can get a plugin that auto-skips them. Every fricking youtuber that does YouTube for a living is going to have ads, especially in spheres where its regular for videos to get demonetized.
I found this dude by accident and love his stuff. He just goes out and shoots guns and you can tell he just enjoys it. Reminds me of my grandpa when I was young enough that he could still move around and shoot, just living well.
I like Hoplopfheil and BrassFacts since they both tend to have grounded opinions about survivalist rifles and being objective about realistic scenarios.
If they are doing it full time, none of them.
The only groups that won't be shilling shit are if they're some geezer who is already retired and sitting on a decent cash pile, or if they're a zoomer who is just fricking around on his weekends.
If they're doing it for a living, they're going to shill.
Youtube has gone out of its way over the last several years to completely frick over every avenue for monetization that a firearms content channel can have.
Ads removed, subscribers removed, channels banned, etc.
So any guntuber that wants to make a living off of their work, will have to take significant sponsorships or e-beg like a motherfricker to stay solvent.
ForgottenWeapons is not excepted from that issue. Especially because he covers a lot of 'Nazi paraphernalia'.
It is just part of the situation these days.
There ain't nothing you can do about it other than hope Google magically gets a pro-gun CEO.
90% of his videos are just him reading the wikipedia article of a gun. And the other 10% is often riddled with misinformation (like that aug video where he just repeated the wrong information that was on the wikipedia page)
Wikipedia articles are written based on his videos, lol.
Not the other way around.
Ian's knowledge is jack-of-all trades.
He knows a decent amount about of lot of things. And is good at presenting that.
There are people that know more than he does of course. Johnathan Ferguson @ Royal Armories probably combines breadth and depth the best of anyone.
But Matthew Moss and Nathaniel F are both also very good over a similarly wide range of content to Ian. And of course there's Popenker.
But pretending that Forgotten Weapons isn't one of the best sources for a casual learner is pure bullshit.
a lot of the guns he covers don't even have a wikipedia article and most of the ones that do have much less information than his videos. A lot of his research, especially from older firearms, comes from books.
https://i.imgur.com/baeGcsl.jpg
You honestly almost had me. You even nailed the writing style of his fellow troonies on reddit.
>read genuine post >call them bait in a vain, flailing attempt to make them feel stupid
Frick, this is part of the reason I hate you homosexuals so fricking much. >watches YouShillers >"ThEyRe ShIlLiNG!!!11!"
Do you know how expensive it is to make firearm/firearm related content? Are you fricking suprised that gays who make videos all day have to pay bills too?
Your at work, and your boss says to you that you can earn an extra $5000 and all you have to do is read a script, your not going to take that? >muh integrity
Get fricking real.
>ctrl+F >C-DOES >0 results
I like this optic autist. only person ive found that isnt some 75 iq inbred stumbling over a half remembered product description
The only good guntubbers worth watching are Backyard ballistics and Cap&Ball. No cringy memes, no gay larping, no homosexual shit. Just some autistic dudes talking about shit.
Find independent small stal/k/er channels. I'm not posting them because you tourist gays will ruin them. If you know the right anons and aren't a gay, you'll find them.
Collecting guns is a fundamentally consumerist hobby
Your guns are products
The makers advertised and shilled them
You bought them
Fricking idiot learn Spanish you're not smart enough for English mutt pussy
Hop (zero shilling)
Brassfacts (I think just got a sponsor from night vision company, still one of my current favs and not owned by leviathan)
GunThots (underated channel and they actually shoot good, zero shilling)
Trexarms (shill there own stuff, but actually have informative vids, and aren’t related to leviathan)
9holereviews (have 10 second ads for slate black industries which I think they own, otherwise great long range channel with no shilling
>mfw TFB used to be neutral and free of shilling with excellent hosts like Miles, Patrick, Alex, and Mike >James tshows up and turns TFB into "the James Reeves Blog and Shilling Channel"
what went wrong?
I’ve been here since day one b***h
Alex deleted the shot show 2015 videos where we both covered the first days of SHOT/TFBTV before he ragequit in 2016 or 2017
See you at the grand opening homosexual
So these anti-Ian posts started back when he did the South Africa trip, but was he already having issues with Karl then? Has all this been Karl's minions?
No, not really. Pretty much all guntubers today have some major flaw and most have to do with monetization of their content. Paul Harrell is much better in this regard, but it's slightly offset by his autistic refusal to stop pretending it's 1993 and the most insufferable fanbase I've yet encountered, worse even than Dreamstans and Beliebers. Combined.
>Dreamstans
>Fricking Beliebers
dude what fricking year are you in?
>he reads the comments
use newpipe and disable them altogether.
>i dont know what the leviathan group actually is but i do know its bad and its why gun youtubers promote products
Which one on the tribe are you?
If that's you Brendan then finish your stupid 50BMG AK
Lul is this still not done? How many years has it been?
Redpill me on leviathan group
Not sure what they're actually called but I think all the popular guntube channels are a part of it. Kentucky Ballistics, Garand Thumb, Donut, ect
still no explanation
Leviathan is a marketing group that hooks up their YT channels with advertisement, and content opportunities.
On the face of it, nothing too troublesome. However a lot of their sponsorships are predatory, and a lot of their partnership opportunities are based on backroom dealings.
>However a lot of their sponsorships are predatory, and a lot of their partnership opportunities are based on backroom dealings.
Elaborate, alone this means nothing
The sponsors trick you into buying guns and ammo, forcing you to have fun.
This. How is leviathan group any different than the gun version of Costco perks?
>predatory
That’s literally all advertisement and marketing. Do we hate gun companies that spend money on marketing campaigns and shilling products at shotshow?
I can be completely wrong here, im just saying I haven’t seen anyone explain what makes leviathan more explicitly evil than any other run of the mill capitalist endeavor.
>Elaborate, alone this means nothing
It means they take money and in return influence their audience to buy shit. It means you are the product. It means you can't trust a word they say.
The difference is that Costco doesn't pretend to be reviewing products or providing commentary while secretly doing a paid advertisement at the expense of the viewer (ie lying).
>I was influenced to buy this thing I like! >:(
Jesus Christ anon, you poor thing.
Key word
>influence
Suffer not a shill. Easier to be editorially independent when you are financially independent too. Money talks
>It means they take money and in return influence their audience to buy shit. It means you are the product. It means you can't trust a word they say.
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Oh you mean like having no corporate overlords? Isn’t that what that homosexual cuck Karl Kasarda says?
Advertisements for snake oil targeted at a young impressionable audience.
So every single advertisement since 1920?
This again means nothing, you are attaching adjectives to nothingness to say the nothingness is evil. How, specifically, in black and white terms are they predatory?
How did this board forget that words have meaning
Advertisers gonna advertise, but guntubers have a choice of who to take sponsorships from.
Okay but why is this choice a bad one? So far all anyone has said is that leviathan is a company that does advertisement which is literally every company. Hell any youtuber by virtue of being a youtuber does this
I dont want to watch 20 minute ads, just useful videos and impartial reviews. A youtuber receiving passive ad income is not the same as a tuber getting paid by gun product ad consortiums to review shit
Here, homosexual
Why is Brandon listed twice? Who forgot to tell him we already have gun Jesus? Do they know Mr. Gunsngear is over at mug club now?
>Why is Brandon listed twice?
Frick if I know but I can't stand that Black person. I want someone to explain to me how he became "The AK Guy" when he doesn't build anything and hires gunsmiths to do all his work.
Two Brandon Herreras. QRD on beardless off brand Brandon Herrera?
I don't know why he is labeled as Brandon Herrera but he may as well be because he's just as cringe. He's some gym rat that does shit like "HANGING MYSELF BY THE NUTS FROM A PULLUP BAR LOLOL" "BODYBUILDER GETS SHOT IS THE **ASS** WITH PAINTBALL GUN!!!!!!!!" just zero imagination or creativity, peepee poopoo slapstick humor for the lowest common denominator of human society. I feel bad for him, honestly.
Just want to say that Brandon is a fricking moron who is way to nice to anti gunners he invited over who have shit intentions and make him look bad
Brandon was a gentleman to let them shoot his guns. I say he had patience and made his point across, but those Ausie's don't understand American life. Typical.
Chuck Liddell routinely fricked high schoolers in the 805 after he got famous and it will eventually be common knowledge.
Vaguely recall some anon told you so when it comes out.
Haha classic Iceman
Expanded for extra knowledge
Leviathan likes collecting whatever literal who guntuber they can find
That's how media companies work. You'll pay them to promote your product and it'll get pushed by multiple channels at the same time.
Wow, not a single youtube channel worth watching beside twang n bang
Paul Harrell Chads stay winning
ordnance labs still rules
Can someone tell me what the hell happened to donut operator? I watched a couple of his recent videos and it looks like the man has aged 20 years in 1. Fatter face, raspier voice, just looks tired all the time.
Self employed people often spiral into a pit of alcoholism and poor diet.
Wow, literally every mainstream gun youtuber is paid by them except motherfricking Paul Harrell and Lucas Botkin. Wow.
I think DemoRanch is independent, but he's also cringe clickbait. I don't see Administrative Results on there either, but he's so close with GarandThumb that I'm sure he's part of this clique too.
Admin for sure, I saw a snippet of a Leviathan get together and he was there.
Admin larps with a passion and seems pretty based tbh. His videos entertaining, not necessarily informative.
>DemoRanch
cringe as frick rich kid who bought fame while he went to vet school both on his multimillionaire parent's trust fund tier funding of him.
i hate anyone who wasn't born dirt poor and remains poor forever
>having money is....LE BAD
I can smell your poverty.
Well DemoRanch was a vet, and not just a tech either but the head doctor. So he was probably pretty stacked before the guntubing
Forgotten weapons, C&R Aresenal and InRange. Surprised zedra prostitute wouldn't be on here. Shame to see ordinance lab in the list.
>Forgotten weapons
Shilling plagiarist
>C&R Aresenal
Kermit the Frog with emphysema
>InRange
Batshit crazy trans rights literal cuckold
If the best you can manage against C&R is to call Obadiah fat, then they must be pretty good.
He's not a pleasant person to watch present a video. He wheezes through his content with a kind of exasperated old man energy. I stopped watching his videos unless I absolutely need info on a particular gun. They're uncomfortable to have on while I do stuff. Plus Mae adds nothing to the conversation and sits there like she's supposed to somehow be window dressing.
Mae is sort of useless, I do find her annoying. Personally, I don't really mind Obadiah's way of speaking, I actually do like to have him on in the background.
I think I'm sensitive to the fat basement dweller voice. A speech pathologist could tell me what I'm talking about but they all have this nasal gasping way of speaking with marbles in their mouth. I know people IRL to look like Othias and they talk the same way. Dudes into collecting old computers or model trains.
Make your own channel then.
No one can ever prove that Ian plagiarized anything and you motherfrickers have tried.
At best people can say that he repeats what he reads in books. Which, like, no shit.
I feel bad for Othais.
If he didn't get algorithm raped, C&Rsenal would be at least twice the size.
They deserve to be. Zoomers love long video essays.
Marketing group that connects guntubers with advertisers since they can't monetize their content on israelitetube
>leviathon group
>cerebus
Who the frick comes up with these edgy names. Why not just name yourself Blue cloud or some shit your not an edgy PMC
You're welcome.
>3D print gay
Not even getting into the actual guns, the entire 3D printed gun community is insufferable
Weaponized homosexuals are pretty much the forefront of every movement. Any normal person who designs 3D guns knows their only chance of survival is to fly under the radar and remain anonymous to the point of paranoia. I mean look at what happened to Cody Wilson and JStark. PSR is probably an informant since most gays are closet pedos and I'll bet my remaining testicle the feds have him under their thumb.
>I'll bet my remaining testicle
How'd you lose the first one?
I went to Tijuana in the 90s
>XYZ community is insufferable
this acts as a gate keeping measure.
Not as bad as it might seem.
He WAS. Too bad he's a fulltime shill now
I kinda understand why he did it at first. I too thought what israelitetube did to him was unjust. But holy shit did he went overboard with it
Backyard Ballistics is relaxing
https://m.youtube.com/@Backyard.Ballistics
He has the best restoration videos on youtube but i wish he'd alternate back with his original "scientific experiment" style videos
like vid related
Ad revenue from videos is laughably low. Unless a YouTuber is already sitting on a fat stack of cash or manages to run a channel as a side thing, they’re going to need other means of funding their shit.
Which means merch, sponsorships, or donations.
He's grandfathered in for the old rates, he's doing fine. Any oldgay youtuber has the good old rates and if they have in-video adverts they're greedy fricks because they got the old click money.
Only if YT doesn't choose to demonetize his content.
just get sponsor block dumbass
This, I never see any ads or sponsorships, even "like and subscribe" gets skipped. I've got it on my FireTV too. Set the videos to 4K to lose Google the most money possible
Ian makes one video defending the P320 and you homosexuals are really so assmad you're going to call Ian a shill? He's probably done 5 promotions in a decade of making daily firearms content for you autistic morons. Just accept the P320 is a fine pistol lol
>so triggered he jumps to conclusions instead of focusing on guntubers in general
You're more easier to set off than a falling P320 kek
C&Rsenal? I don't watch them often because of how long they are, but I've never seen any shilling.
I guess Ballistol is sponsoring them now but like sure frick it I guess you gotta get SOME CLP from somewhere. 9-Hole shills their products and Patreon but again I don't mind, Henry and Josh otherwise keep it super professional.
Shilling your own stuff is better than shilling someone else's.
oh I see, you didn't come here for an answer. You just want to complain about everything and be coddled like a woman. Ok.
So are you just going to spam Ian hate threads and then abandon them the moment anyone calls you a homosexual? I don’t even care for the dude and this is getting ridiculous
bitches don't know about my homie Mishaco
Yes we do know, he is a fat moron and all of his videos are boring, and not in a cool Paul Harrell way just an annoying way.
I like Misha when I want detailed information on a firearm, in kind of the same way that I can watch those two hour videos that one guy does on the history of various H&K firearms. No it's not one-liners, slapstick, and slow motion larp footage but it still entertains me.
The Tank Museum consistently puts up good stuff. Tank chats, bits and pieces on Ukraine etc. David Fletcher is my favourite
Their most recent Ukraine vid if that's more your thing
Nutnfancy (Still the guntube king) (join TNP patreon)
Paul Harrell (zoomers need not apply, attention span longer than 30 seconds is needed)
Brent0331 (Tactics, reviews)
Christopher Larsen (Tactics)
SecurityGuy42 (Boomer Militia guy, Tactics (trigger warning for r/ukraine folks))
Risky Chrisky (Not a huge fan but he has some good videos on Tactics and LBE setups)
TheGruntPerspective (Infantry shit)
Hop (He hates pretty much everything which makes him trustworthy in my opinion)
Brassfacts (Seems like an honest guy)
Dooshbag’s brother, Dick (REALLY funny guy, gret videos on tactics and reality checks for tactical elitists)
NAVYMAN8903 (Good reviews)
SmallArmsSolutions (Very detailed reviews, used to work for colt and various other manufacturers designing guns)
I'm sure there's a few more but these are some of the ones I watch.
>Hop mentioned
hi
Hello
I fricking LOVE SmallArmsSolutions.
I WILL shill for America's Rifle, it's very good but I was disappointed that it started at the M16A2.
>Brent0331 (Tactics, reviews)
I've spent nothing but hours watching his camo test videos. What I do appreciate about them is that he doesn't do a camo in one season. He tries the same camo in different seasons to test their effectiveness.
Yup, I'll second Brent, he's got some good informative shit on there.
>hop
>brassfacts
Only two guntubers worth a frick: don't pretend to be door kickers, relate and practice to the needs of civilian life instead of gay mil-sim hypotheticals, and hate mostly everything and explain why with video footage of it fricking up or using it instead of "muh devgru doesn't like it/random internet opinion of the day."
Karl kasarda is definitely in that tier with hop
>ties to at least three manufacturers (off the top of my fricking head, probably more)
>weird elitist hangups over lame non-issues like forward assists and "loud buffer springs"
Yeah no.
Hop hates trannies though and Karl doesn’t so kys
The frick are you talking about, I was talking about Karl
Yes so it’s confirmed that Karl is a homosexual thank you for the clarification.
Hop also has a tendency to drop /k/ shibboleths.
Hop is more contrarian for contrarian sake. The logic he uses will sometimes contradict itself by stating X is bad for something, but that same thing is why Y is better in another video.
>Christopher Larsen
Didn't know he had a YouTube. I will check it out. Ty anon.
All of Ian's content will be paywalled by the end of the year, screencap this post.
USOG. He makes videos about old rifles, there's barely anything to shill for.
Ron Spomer wasn't shilling as far as I recall
>USOG
>Rom Spomer
fuddkino. Add Keith Warren to the mix and you've got a holy trifecta.
I prefer Desert Dog Outdoors
Uncle Ron is comfy. He's like textbook fudd in appearance, but I don't know enough about fudd-era hunting cartridges to say whether he's repeating otherwise harmless fuddlore or sharing quality knowledge.
Watching his videos is like watching a good episode of Anvil though. No shilling, no stupidity, just warm fuzzy entertainment.
Speaking of Anvil, I don't know why but it's not capturing my attention like it used to. I find myself scrolling PrepHole halfway through lately.
Gunthots: basically just three guys talking about guns and what they shoot in competitions, review cheap guns until they break
These guys are hilarious.
Youtube? Frick no.
>Half the video
Did we watch the same video OP
Why do you hate Ian?
The most hated channel on /k/ is pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/@perepolox/videos
What's with all the FW dilation posts lately? Did that troony Karl frick something up again?
It’s definitely karl and his discord pushing this shit, they are seething over Ian currently
Maybe, lately there have been quite a few of Ian hate threads, Karl is basically always obsessed about him.
>no Paul Harrell
>no Brassfacts
>no Hoplopfheil
Crazy how I instinctively only watch guys that aren't on the list.
>Crazy how I instinctively only watch guys that aren't on the list.
Yeah. Everyone on that list is on there because they're pretty milquetoast and palatable for normies. at least 2/3 of them are like "500 WHITE CLAWS VS .338 LAPUA EPISODE 73!!!!"
Hardly any better than ASMR or "oddly satisfying" channels
If I make a YouTube channel for guns will I have everyone’s loyalty and support :)?
The only thing I can promise is hate
Karl you’re really salty about the breakup I see, you’ve been posting all sorts of shot about Ian last few days, you should really get help
Good God this guy is so fricking insufferable. No wonder Ian decided to ditch this gay. Didn't he also have a sperg out because Ian appeared in some other gun tubber's video, the guy who always wears a mask.
Yeah he was calling Administrative Results a Nazi and one of the inrange discord users doxxed AR
yea, I was big mad about the TWO videos shilling $50 mugs with a slight chance to win a used Sig p320 too. If you want a replacement for Ian: C&Rsenal and Royal Armouries
Gun Sam _Revolver Aficionado_ isn't bad if you're into ballistics comparisons. No shilling just shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/@GunSam
If you're a hasguns who shoots often you won't care for guntubers. If you're not watching their vids just to learn and are consuming it for the fun of things that's a surrogate activity.
Vickers Tactical, videos w lots of slow motion, rare shit, fighting carbine 101 training tips, cool catch phrases
https://www.youtube.com/c/VickersTacticalLAV
Their slo mo vids are great even if Larry is a fat homosexual sad sack of shit.
>fat frick
He lost the weight, grandpa.
Vickers is cool as a person, but his channel isn't that interesting.
Last I saw he was fighting cancer, is he still alive?
I like how there’s anons in this very thread who don’t know about "new" (actually just present-day normal) media. They think that all those tiny home, van life, camping reviewers, etc channels are really just guys with a drone and some videography skills putting out free content.
I collect a kind of law enforcement equipment almost nobody else does. I have a huge collection and could probably shit out 200 videos focusing on various autistic historical/technical details. Should I become le ebig content creator? Y/N?
Yeah sure.
Looking at all the people who do it for a living tells me it can't be that hard.
>captcha: ppppsp
What kind of equipment do you collect?
Not telling. No one's ever done a YouTube video on the subject.
>I own over 5000 pears of anguish
Would subscribe
Police are getting far too rough these days. homie can't go for a jog without getting pulled over and locked in thumbscrews.
you're the vintage police flashlight guy aren't you? I don't think you'd have a huge audience but I think the people who wanted to watch would enjoy it
Honestly, try it. Theres an autist on YT that collects deact explosives, and does fairly low technical-quality but good informational-quality vids on them. Its great. I watch almost every video.
Worst that can happen is you get popular and you get targeted by morons like happens to every other /k/ adjacent eceleb. Second worst is you waste an afternoon talking about one of your hobbies to your camera.
Do Raid and WoT count?
There is of course our very own Hoplopfheil and his life partner BrassFacts. I enjoy Paul's particular flavor of autism from time to time, and recently I watched a series of videos on the ACOG by this guy (https://youtu.be/MMJ1-b6CnRo) which were by far the best I have seen on the subject.
Otherwise I don't really watch much in the way of guntubers aside from the occasional random video that pops up, or old instructional stuff for when I can't figure out how to get the goddamned motherfricking piece of shit trigger return spring back in my M1 carbine at two in the morning on a Wednesday.
I miss him so much, bros...
is he recovering still or is he died?
I didn't get the update on his health.
He's doing good, I think. Karl from Inrange was nice to link the donation page back then due to a condition. He's spending time with his family and living life.
>Ian distances himself from Karl because he's gone hard on the political angle
>Ian classically doesn't bother with any of that shit and just keeps his content focused on the history/functionality of guns and range demonstration
>Karl throws a shitfit
>Now there's a surge of posts shitfitting about Ian on /k/
Really makes me think
>Ian distances himself from Karl because he's gone hard on the political angle
Say it with your chest, Ian distanced himself because Karl can't shut the frick up about trannies now.
It's not only trannies. Some rat Karl is, Ian tried to stay friends and would still collab despite all the political shitflinging until the arfcom spergout
>Now there's a surge of posts shitfitting about Ian on /k
>Now
Where have you been for the last 4 years? This board has been malding about Ian since his Rhodesia FAL video with Larry Snickers.
Personally I couldn't care less about a made up genocide, but alot of pieces fell into place about Ian after what Larry Vickers said about ian regarding the AK book. Ian knowledge about topics is supericial at best and it's especially glaring if you read his chassepot to famas book. Him confirming he can't even hold a basic conversation in french during his interview of the ex GIGN instructor should clear up everything.
The good thing is that he popularized some firearms to normies, the bad is that moronic normies who know jackshit about firearm history etc genuinely believe he is an expert.
Did Larry even end up crediting Ian in the book after all the shit he pulled?
can you say more about the AK and Chassepot books?
PSR, Paul Harrell and maybe Hickock are all you need
>Hickock
At least now that he stopped being an NRA shill
There is no reason to be against leviathan group. It's just a way for gun tubers to make sponsor money. YouTube demonetizes so much gun content it's understandable they wouldnt want to rely on YouTube ads for revenue. A lot of youtubers have handlers like this that gets sponsors for them. It's not easy for the YouTuber to make all these sponsor deals themself, and sponsors typically dont want to pay the youtuber directly. I really think the people against it are possibly glowies or some organized group.
You got a point. Nowadays, right wing groups are often perpetrated by glowies including anything with a trigger or pistol brace on it.
Its a hard call.
LT opens up massive amounts of room for backdoor dealings and creators lying in order to get more companies paying them.
But without it, most guntubers wouldn't be able to make a living off of it. Or sometimes even have a channel at all.
>There is no reason to be against leviathan group
Conflict of interest resulting in potentially biased youtube videos. Sure, people need to make a buck, but it's how you do so that matters. I'd trust a guy who posts videos for the love of it, not for the money. Don't treat youtube as a day job, the ones that do treat videos as a means to an end (read: money) and not an end in of itself which spoils the integrity of the video. I really think people who talk in support of Leviathan group are paid shills themselves. It suits their MO
>youtube channel
>don't spend half their videos shilling merch
you literally have to pick one
The adpocalypse made the self-sustaining Youtube channel a thing of the past, fricking greedy Google asswipes.
its 1/20th of the video. if you really hate manually skipping ads you can get a plugin that auto-skips them. Every fricking youtuber that does YouTube for a living is going to have ads, especially in spheres where its regular for videos to get demonetized.
Nevadabros offer up mixup98 for videos about poorgay guns and Roger Barrera for primo guns
I found this dude by accident and love his stuff. He just goes out and shoots guns and you can tell he just enjoys it. Reminds me of my grandpa when I was young enough that he could still move around and shoot, just living well.
I like Hoplopfheil and BrassFacts since they both tend to have grounded opinions about survivalist rifles and being objective about realistic scenarios.
If they are doing it full time, none of them.
The only groups that won't be shilling shit are if they're some geezer who is already retired and sitting on a decent cash pile, or if they're a zoomer who is just fricking around on his weekends.
If they're doing it for a living, they're going to shill.
Youtube has gone out of its way over the last several years to completely frick over every avenue for monetization that a firearms content channel can have.
Ads removed, subscribers removed, channels banned, etc.
So any guntuber that wants to make a living off of their work, will have to take significant sponsorships or e-beg like a motherfricker to stay solvent.
ForgottenWeapons is not excepted from that issue. Especially because he covers a lot of 'Nazi paraphernalia'.
It is just part of the situation these days.
There ain't nothing you can do about it other than hope Google magically gets a pro-gun CEO.
It's absurd that noguns normies actually think he knows anything past reading a wikipedia article.
90% of his videos are just him reading the wikipedia article of a gun. And the other 10% is often riddled with misinformation (like that aug video where he just repeated the wrong information that was on the wikipedia page)
>like that aug video where he just repeated the wrong information that was on the wikipedia page
Specifics?
Wikipedia articles are written based on his videos, lol.
Not the other way around.
Ian's knowledge is jack-of-all trades.
He knows a decent amount about of lot of things. And is good at presenting that.
There are people that know more than he does of course. Johnathan Ferguson @ Royal Armories probably combines breadth and depth the best of anyone.
But Matthew Moss and Nathaniel F are both also very good over a similarly wide range of content to Ian. And of course there's Popenker.
But pretending that Forgotten Weapons isn't one of the best sources for a casual learner is pure bullshit.
You honestly almost had me. You even nailed the writing style of his fellow troonies on reddit.
None of what I posted was bait, you dumbass.
a lot of the guns he covers don't even have a wikipedia article and most of the ones that do have much less information than his videos. A lot of his research, especially from older firearms, comes from books.
>read genuine post
>call them bait in a vain, flailing attempt to make them feel stupid
you're trying too hard. it's trasparent.
Frick, this is part of the reason I hate you homosexuals so fricking much.
>watches YouShillers
>"ThEyRe ShIlLiNG!!!11!"
Do you know how expensive it is to make firearm/firearm related content? Are you fricking suprised that gays who make videos all day have to pay bills too?
Your at work, and your boss says to you that you can earn an extra $5000 and all you have to do is read a script, your not going to take that?
>muh integrity
Get fricking real.
Just cause you take that money doesn't mean others have to take your words at face value
Speaking of Ian, I swear he made a video about the Luger Selbstlader Model 06 but I can't find it
>ctrl+F
>C-DOES
>0 results
I like this optic autist. only person ive found that isnt some 75 iq inbred stumbling over a half remembered product description
The only good guntubbers worth watching are Backyard ballistics and Cap&Ball. No cringy memes, no gay larping, no homosexual shit. Just some autistic dudes talking about shit.
As a Norwegian I will only say this: "Kasarda" is not a Norwegian name.
Oh, I thought it was Greek or something
Find independent small stal/k/er channels. I'm not posting them because you tourist gays will ruin them. If you know the right anons and aren't a gay, you'll find them.
Wrong thread anon?
no, correct thread. The only thing worse than a youtuber is a guntuber.
Karl mad
The dude is like a crazy ex gf.
Karl is cucked as frick, he is a commie cumguzzler that supports ANTIFA terrorists.
>FW HAD NO INPUT TO THE SHOOT
>FW hooked up the entire prize table of suppressors, guns, and NV
What an absolute moronic cuck.
Made me do a tweet dive. Imagine being this butt hurt all the time
Collecting guns is a fundamentally consumerist hobby
Your guns are products
The makers advertised and shilled them
You bought them
Fricking idiot learn Spanish you're not smart enough for English mutt pussy
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Hop (zero shilling)
Brassfacts (I think just got a sponsor from night vision company, still one of my current favs and not owned by leviathan)
GunThots (underated channel and they actually shoot good, zero shilling)
Trexarms (shill there own stuff, but actually have informative vids, and aren’t related to leviathan)
9holereviews (have 10 second ads for slate black industries which I think they own, otherwise great long range channel with no shilling
>mfw TFB used to be neutral and free of shilling with excellent hosts like Miles, Patrick, Alex, and Mike
>James tshows up and turns TFB into "the James Reeves Blog and Shilling Channel"
what went wrong?
I’ve been here since day one b***h
Alex deleted the shot show 2015 videos where we both covered the first days of SHOT/TFBTV before he ragequit in 2016 or 2017
See you at the grand opening homosexual
Jimmy you better namedrop /k/ eventually you Black person :^) <3
So these anti-Ian posts started back when he did the South Africa trip, but was he already having issues with Karl then? Has all this been Karl's minions?