I got one of these for the wife last Christmas. I figured maybe the $400 was worth it because the design has been around fricking forever and I should be able to get parts for decades to come.
I also got the bowl lift model, between the tilt head and bowl lift 5qt models or whatever it was, the bowl lift said it had like 30% or 40% more power. I figured it had to be the transmission with the tilt head. I regret it a little because it’s harder to find cute aftermarket bowls for the bowl lift model. But also she wanted a real specific color to match the kitchen and shit was all backordered but I finally got the thing in like Xmas eve after calling the company and asking for expedited processing. Customer support was good to me even though their estimated delivery date when I ordered the thing was off by a week or two.
I wonder if Ninja has parts availability to repair their overpriced shit.
Picked up one in gold for $0 off of Craigslist. Said the motor was broken. Whatever, looked like new. Tilt head model like picrel
Ran and sounded like shit. Cracked it open. Somehow a little pin holding a gear came halfway out and got bent so the gear wasn't engaged or some shit. 30 cent roll pin and fresh grease (could have probably reused the old stuff tho) and it works just fricking fine. Odd failure but that's what went wrong
The modern bowl lift style are less repairable. The old models with less horsepower have a single nylon gear that will strip if it gets overloaded. Look for a model with the big brush holders on the exterior and a removable back cap.
>Look for the older model
Yeah but do they sell them in “Milkshake”? That was like her #1 request, had to have that color.
Also for anybody interested in one of these things, I was at Costco like a week ago and they had the 6-qt bowl lifts for $299 on sale. If it’s still going, that’s dirt cheap. Picrel is frickin $449 right now and they don’t really go on sale that much unless you find a refurb or oddball color or something.
I thought they were sort of overpriced until the box showed up on my doorstep and I picked the thing up and it felt like an old school drill press or something, not the typical Walmart $89.97 consumable Chinese crap you get in 2023.
I think anon was saying that it was a good machine but would not grind rocks as well as he expected.
6 months ago
Bepis
The old ones are built like the Grumman mail trucks and refuse to die. The newer ones aren’t quite that, but they’re a 2001 Corolla with 330k on the dial that still cruises just fine.
So yes the newer ones have almost double the power (i think it's almost 600w?) but because of the extra power you need all steel gears (whether they're forged/cast/mim, IDK) to handle the torque. If a plastic gear shears off it's whatever, $6 from Amazon and you're back in business. If a metal gear fails that's gonna end up in all your other gears and could frick something up majorly.
The DC motor models aren't really repairable at all, the whole motor/gearbox unit is basically sealed. Speed controllers aren't really mechanical, there's hall sensors and all sorts of shit. Still reliable but not really diy friendly. It's entirely whirlpool era kitchenaid engineering.
Ranking the kitchenaids to buy. Don't get the mini
1) Tilt head 300/325w unit (or the older k5ss, basically a tilt head motor/gearset on a raise/lift frame)... this is great if you don't abuse your mixer and don't need more than 5 quarts. avoid the really old hobart k5a (analog) as these are very old and despite being robust, harder to find parts for. this is all most people need. These have user serviceable brushes. Look for the caps on the outside.
2) AC proline 5/5.5/6qt. It's still repairable and reliable. They may even be up to like 7 quarts now. Most people don't use a mixer enough to need this even. No serviceable brushes.
3) DC models are last. They're far more sealed like I said. They're still gonna chug but I have my doubts you're gonna be able to get circuit boards in 30 years. I don't think they've been super popular as places like Costco that sold DC ones for awhile, only sell AC models now. Maybe it's due to cost, I dunno.
Truth be told it's pretty amazing that Kitchenaid mixer quality really hasn't gone down in 30-40 years. I know people are gonna whine about Hobart era ones being better but they really aren't any different IMO
Your grandpa probably dumped a shit ton of low temp grease into the things.
Have not seen a spot of grease anywhere and it’s seen about weekly use for a year so far.
over time the grease breaks down and starts to leak out as oil. it's a simple fix, open it, clean out all the grease and put new food safe grease in it. voila!
with all of the questions youve answered for me in qtddtot threads, even on PrepHole and PrepHole i wouldnt even care if you were a Black person. hope my mouth feels good
6 months ago
Anonymous
qtddtot thread should be renamed dunning kruger the thread
6 months ago
Bepis
Hate to break it to you, but it’s not just those threads, it’s the entire internet and most people in the general public. Those who have a very very mild understanding of something often have the loudest opinions.
Prime example, on PrepHole when somebody is like “I want to start working on my car, what jack should I buy?” there will always be one person who insists that ramps are they way to go because they’re safer and easier. And he’s so confident that ramps are the #1 choice because they worked for him that one time he changed his own oil, and doesn’t grasp that you might need to remove a wheel from time to time when working on cars and you can’t do that when the car is on fricking ramps.
6 months ago
Anonymous
depens on how you use the ramp
6 months ago
Bepis
Ramps are not a replacement for a jack and stands. They’re an additional tool to get one side of the car lifted enough to do an oil change. They’re not really for repair, in fact so many moden cars, especially with transverse engines, require you going in from one of the wheel wells so even a damn serpentine belt requires you to put the front on stands and remove a wheel. Hell, last belt change I did required the jack under the damn engine while the front passenger wheel was off because the top motor mount needed to come off on this 2.4L I4 Honda engine.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>even a damn serpentine belt requires you to put the front on stands and remove a wheel
depends on how flexible you are and your willingness to get injured
6 months ago
Bepis
>extent of wrenchin experience is two oil changes
Picrel is the car I’m talking about with the motor mount off, and it’s still tight. The engine needs to be lifted a bit to have clearance for the belt tensioner to move enough to put a new belt on.
6 months ago
Anonymous
this serp belt took 30 min to change.
6 months ago
BepisTheSage
Yeah and this one is like a 5min job. It seems like it’s harder on transverse engines because you often have to get jn from the passenger wheel well since it’s going to be a clusterfrick trying to get around the crank pulley and such with a motor mount in the way and the strut tower is probably poking out right where it would be convenient to get a wrench on the tensioner. Also the last belt I did on that Honda 2.4L was on the side of the road without all of my tools and everything was coated in dirty power steering fluid and it started to rain at the end, that was super gay, one of those cars where the thin ass serpentine belt wrench and a crowsfoot helps a lot.
In some situations a temporary tripcode might be useful to avoid other anons from trolling and derailing the thread. Say for instance that an OP is following some procedure under other anons' suggestions, it might be useful for everyone to have him recognizable when posting updates. Of course trips are seldom used this way and have been instead co-opted since day one into a way to create identity in a site literally made to remove identity, and frequented by people that much prefer not having to deal with identity and persona while discussing and exchanging ideas. I don't see why they still keep trips enabled.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>much prefer not having to deal with identity and persona while discussing and exchanging ideas. I don't see why they still keep trips enabled.
There's an easy fix: they can have unique poster IDs and then an option (or even a default) for them to be hidden to the user. This is already in the PrepHole software, and it's lame that they won't enable it.
I feel similarly about being able to post multiple images per post. Once you use one of the tiny deadchans with better software tweaks enabled, you realize how shit the fourth channel is
6 months ago
Anonymous
tripcodes were meant to keep people from pretending to be you. you create a unique tripcode with a password and start a thread, then you can't get shit like this: >I'm gay if that matters
but for some odd reason people get pissed about it. those same people don't like if you put spaces between sentences or paragraph for reasons that make no sense whatsoever.
pol has automatic tripcodes in the form of ID's that last for a day or something like that.
wayne lambright is known tripcode gay.
6 months ago
Bepis
To piss off people like this
https://i.imgur.com/tvqkids.png
In some situations a temporary tripcode might be useful to avoid other anons from trolling and derailing the thread. Say for instance that an OP is following some procedure under other anons' suggestions, it might be useful for everyone to have him recognizable when posting updates. Of course trips are seldom used this way and have been instead co-opted since day one into a way to create identity in a site literally made to remove identity, and frequented by people that much prefer not having to deal with identity and persona while discussing and exchanging ideas. I don't see why they still keep trips enabled.
6 months ago
Anonymous
so it's just trolling? do they not have a more useful purpose?
6 months ago
Anonymous
6 months ago
Anonymous
i'll interpret that as their only use being to annoy people
with all of the questions youve answered for me in qtddtot threads, even on PrepHole and PrepHole i wouldnt even care if you were a Black person. hope my mouth feels good
>be in the market for a stand mixer >see this thread
Is KitchenAid worth the money? It's €500 new, €300-ish second hand. I discovered I can't eat gluten, and industrial gluten-free bread has skyrocketed in price (it's around 15 €/kg or 7 $/lb) and it tastes like shit, so I've started making my own bread with great results. Now I want to make my life easier with a stand mixer.
For comparison, the gorillion different models of Kenwood stand mixers range from the price of a kitchenaid to €150; badge engineered shit on Amazon goes from €75 to €150; the cheapest no-name stand mixer I was able to find second hand in my area is €35.
I thought they were overpriced until I opened the box. The thing is built like a drill press from the 70s, pretty much the opposite of every plastic gear piece of shit consumer grade appliance you can buy these days. I think there’s a reason everybody who cooks much has one.
Kitchenaid sells refurbs for decent prices too, maybe you can get those in Yurop.
Yes I have one from 2004, it's the heaviest appliance in the kitchen, I dont think it would ever break. Has never given any issues. That and a Zojirishi rice cooker.
Depends on your use case. My wife has a food allergy and has to cook basically all of her food. We have a KitchenAid 6qt that I've had to repair twice. Both times she stripped out a sacrificial gear. It kicks ass for repairability and fast whipping, but if you have a heavy dough they have enough power to kill themselves trying to mix it.
Instead. These frickers can mix our 6 cups of flower ginger bread recipe without even heating up. If you lean more toward making breads it's a better choice. (Also we have never broken ours in 5 years of heavy use but they are very repairable but you have to get parts from Europe)
Very cool product, probably more fit to my needs, but it's more than double the cost of a second hand KitchenAid, way outside my budget. That being said, it's good to know that KitchenAid is made to last, as in "to be serviced".
Fair call, we waited for a sale and a cupon and a credit card deal and every other little trick to drop the price. If you are looking at a used KitchenAid however, as other anons have said, get yourself a tub of food safe grease and change out the grease inside maybe once a year or two. Other than that don't TRY and blow them up and they last. Loads of accessories too for later. I really recommend getting a second bowl and mixing paddle so you don't have to wash them mid recipe. And the pasta roller is pretty good. And the meat grinder is pretty good.
You are making a good choice. Don't forget to post what you make later. PrepHole is for gays bread is PrepHole
The point of using a mixer is to mix. Hand mixing high idration batches of dough for bread and pizza gets tiring fast, with or without gluten. With a stand mixer you just throw everything in the bowl and turn it on.
Mixing higher hydration doughs is easier than lower hydration ones whether you're developing gluten or not. It makes zero sense to buy a mixer for making small batches of gluten-free goyslop. I have a 7 qt Kitchenaid which I love dearly, but I mix 4 kgs of whole rye every few days by hand precisely because it's faster and easier than washing the dough hook.
i lucked into a free 7qt kitchenaid, and the spiral hook works wonderfully for pizza and pasta doughs. it's worth €300 if you can keep it forever. if you regularly have to sell all your shit as you move between rented apartments it would be a silly purchase.
side note, a gluten-free croissant is the most depressing thing i have ever eaten
I have one that was in storage for about a year laying on its side. Some of the grease leaked out. I cleaned that up, but now am wondering if I should take it apart and relube the gears. Maybe clean up inside in general. Having been on its side for that long and leaking out grease probably means it moved around into other spots that could lead to it leaking into the bowl at some point.
I sold a Hobart era lift bowl and replaced it with a modern liftbowl professional
I dont regret it, modern attachments like the dough hooks are way better. it powers through double batches of pizza dough like a champ.
Been running strong for over 2 years with moderate use.
I had put a grounded plug on the hobart as it was shocking people, greased it all up and it ran fine.
I also replaced the worm gear in my grandmothers Proline from the 90s.
They are pretty easy to work on
Im pretty sure shitty ceramic stoves and electric coil stove hate is propaganda from big stove because of how fricking easy they are to work on
Pro tip if you have an electric coil stove and you hate it there is probably something easily fixable wrong with it
inherited this fricker, and it leaked oil.
thing is build like a tractor, hobbed spiral gears, ball bearings, spline shaft, radial shaft seal
speed adjust by ceramic wire wound resistors.
the only thing i can claim they dont build em like they used to anymore
every time these get discussed people complain about le plastic gears grrr le engineers!! without realizing that the gear is plastic on purpose, it's a built-in failure point to prevent something much more expensive from breaking.
if the gear strips you were using the machine improperly and you're lucky people much smarter than you predicted this and saved you the costs of replacing the motor.
why wouldn't it come with a spare of everything? dumbass. this isn't a controversial idea and failure points have been standard commercial engineering practice for decades. the fact you're arguing against this tells me you're unqualified to comment on engineering.
Because it’s only a failure point if you misuse it. The average person probably won’t need to fix it.
Also when you break it from abuse, you gotta feel a little bit of pain and wait for the part to show up.
why wouldn't it come with a spare of everything? dumbass. this isn't a controversial idea and failure points have been standard commercial engineering practice for decades. the fact you're arguing against this tells me you're unqualified to comment on engineering.
I bought an $89 chinkesium stand mixer and said to myself whe n it broke I'd get a kitchenaid but the stupid thing is still alive 4 years later and I use it 5-6 times a month. Wobbles a bit because its too lightweight for its motor but still going
What did you repair?
I got one of these for the wife last Christmas. I figured maybe the $400 was worth it because the design has been around fricking forever and I should be able to get parts for decades to come.
I also got the bowl lift model, between the tilt head and bowl lift 5qt models or whatever it was, the bowl lift said it had like 30% or 40% more power. I figured it had to be the transmission with the tilt head. I regret it a little because it’s harder to find cute aftermarket bowls for the bowl lift model. But also she wanted a real specific color to match the kitchen and shit was all backordered but I finally got the thing in like Xmas eve after calling the company and asking for expedited processing. Customer support was good to me even though their estimated delivery date when I ordered the thing was off by a week or two.
I wonder if Ninja has parts availability to repair their overpriced shit.
Picked up one in gold for $0 off of Craigslist. Said the motor was broken. Whatever, looked like new. Tilt head model like picrel
Ran and sounded like shit. Cracked it open. Somehow a little pin holding a gear came halfway out and got bent so the gear wasn't engaged or some shit. 30 cent roll pin and fresh grease (could have probably reused the old stuff tho) and it works just fricking fine. Odd failure but that's what went wrong
The modern bowl lift style are less repairable. The old models with less horsepower have a single nylon gear that will strip if it gets overloaded. Look for a model with the big brush holders on the exterior and a removable back cap.
>Look for the older model
Yeah but do they sell them in “Milkshake”? That was like her #1 request, had to have that color.
Also for anybody interested in one of these things, I was at Costco like a week ago and they had the 6-qt bowl lifts for $299 on sale. If it’s still going, that’s dirt cheap. Picrel is frickin $449 right now and they don’t really go on sale that much unless you find a refurb or oddball color or something.
I thought they were sort of overpriced until the box showed up on my doorstep and I picked the thing up and it felt like an old school drill press or something, not the typical Walmart $89.97 consumable Chinese crap you get in 2023.
The new ones aren't bad at all, they're more commercial grade, just when shit hits the fan, it really can tear up the machine.
They will all outlast you if you aren't grinding up rocks.
>it's bad because it's better
what
I think anon was saying that it was a good machine but would not grind rocks as well as he expected.
The old ones are built like the Grumman mail trucks and refuse to die. The newer ones aren’t quite that, but they’re a 2001 Corolla with 330k on the dial that still cruises just fine.
That’s what I got from it.
So yes the newer ones have almost double the power (i think it's almost 600w?) but because of the extra power you need all steel gears (whether they're forged/cast/mim, IDK) to handle the torque. If a plastic gear shears off it's whatever, $6 from Amazon and you're back in business. If a metal gear fails that's gonna end up in all your other gears and could frick something up majorly.
The DC motor models aren't really repairable at all, the whole motor/gearbox unit is basically sealed. Speed controllers aren't really mechanical, there's hall sensors and all sorts of shit. Still reliable but not really diy friendly. It's entirely whirlpool era kitchenaid engineering.
Ranking the kitchenaids to buy. Don't get the mini
1) Tilt head 300/325w unit (or the older k5ss, basically a tilt head motor/gearset on a raise/lift frame)... this is great if you don't abuse your mixer and don't need more than 5 quarts. avoid the really old hobart k5a (analog) as these are very old and despite being robust, harder to find parts for. this is all most people need. These have user serviceable brushes. Look for the caps on the outside.
2) AC proline 5/5.5/6qt. It's still repairable and reliable. They may even be up to like 7 quarts now. Most people don't use a mixer enough to need this even. No serviceable brushes.
3) DC models are last. They're far more sealed like I said. They're still gonna chug but I have my doubts you're gonna be able to get circuit boards in 30 years. I don't think they've been super popular as places like Costco that sold DC ones for awhile, only sell AC models now. Maybe it's due to cost, I dunno.
Truth be told it's pretty amazing that Kitchenaid mixer quality really hasn't gone down in 30-40 years. I know people are gonna whine about Hobart era ones being better but they really aren't any different IMO
Tilt heads are for poorhomosexuals and suck dick.
I have a 15 y/o Kitchenaid coffee grinder that's about and large and heavy as the mixers. It's a tank and still using the original set of burrs.
nice, I got an old white mixer at salvation army for $20. no attachments though. it is loud, so I need to grease it but have been putting it off.
my moms family always had these dumb things, and every single one leaked grease into the bowl
Your grandpa probably dumped a shit ton of low temp grease into the things.
Have not seen a spot of grease anywhere and it’s seen about weekly use for a year so far.
over time the grease breaks down and starts to leak out as oil. it's a simple fix, open it, clean out all the grease and put new food safe grease in it. voila!
>cute aftermarket bowls
>a lot of unnecessary information
Are you a gril?
The wife is
How can you be sure
bepis is a black man and also the village idiot
Not a black man, but a race traitor cuckold
>Not for Hire
with all of the questions youve answered for me in qtddtot threads, even on PrepHole and PrepHole i wouldnt even care if you were a Black person. hope my mouth feels good
qtddtot thread should be renamed dunning kruger the thread
Hate to break it to you, but it’s not just those threads, it’s the entire internet and most people in the general public. Those who have a very very mild understanding of something often have the loudest opinions.
Prime example, on PrepHole when somebody is like “I want to start working on my car, what jack should I buy?” there will always be one person who insists that ramps are they way to go because they’re safer and easier. And he’s so confident that ramps are the #1 choice because they worked for him that one time he changed his own oil, and doesn’t grasp that you might need to remove a wheel from time to time when working on cars and you can’t do that when the car is on fricking ramps.
depens on how you use the ramp
Ramps are not a replacement for a jack and stands. They’re an additional tool to get one side of the car lifted enough to do an oil change. They’re not really for repair, in fact so many moden cars, especially with transverse engines, require you going in from one of the wheel wells so even a damn serpentine belt requires you to put the front on stands and remove a wheel. Hell, last belt change I did required the jack under the damn engine while the front passenger wheel was off because the top motor mount needed to come off on this 2.4L I4 Honda engine.
>even a damn serpentine belt requires you to put the front on stands and remove a wheel
depends on how flexible you are and your willingness to get injured
>extent of wrenchin experience is two oil changes
Picrel is the car I’m talking about with the motor mount off, and it’s still tight. The engine needs to be lifted a bit to have clearance for the belt tensioner to move enough to put a new belt on.
this serp belt took 30 min to change.
Yeah and this one is like a 5min job. It seems like it’s harder on transverse engines because you often have to get jn from the passenger wheel well since it’s going to be a clusterfrick trying to get around the crank pulley and such with a motor mount in the way and the strut tower is probably poking out right where it would be convenient to get a wrench on the tensioner. Also the last belt I did on that Honda 2.4L was on the side of the road without all of my tools and everything was coated in dirty power steering fluid and it started to rain at the end, that was super gay, one of those cars where the thin ass serpentine belt wrench and a crowsfoot helps a lot.
Tell me about Bepis! Why does he wear the trip?
to anger tards that seem to have a problem with tripcodes.
what is the point of a tripcode?
In some situations a temporary tripcode might be useful to avoid other anons from trolling and derailing the thread. Say for instance that an OP is following some procedure under other anons' suggestions, it might be useful for everyone to have him recognizable when posting updates. Of course trips are seldom used this way and have been instead co-opted since day one into a way to create identity in a site literally made to remove identity, and frequented by people that much prefer not having to deal with identity and persona while discussing and exchanging ideas. I don't see why they still keep trips enabled.
>much prefer not having to deal with identity and persona while discussing and exchanging ideas. I don't see why they still keep trips enabled.
There's an easy fix: they can have unique poster IDs and then an option (or even a default) for them to be hidden to the user. This is already in the PrepHole software, and it's lame that they won't enable it.
I feel similarly about being able to post multiple images per post. Once you use one of the tiny deadchans with better software tweaks enabled, you realize how shit the fourth channel is
tripcodes were meant to keep people from pretending to be you. you create a unique tripcode with a password and start a thread, then you can't get shit like this:
>I'm gay if that matters
but for some odd reason people get pissed about it. those same people don't like if you put spaces between sentences or paragraph for reasons that make no sense whatsoever.
pol has automatic tripcodes in the form of ID's that last for a day or something like that.
wayne lambright is known tripcode gay.
To piss off people like this
so it's just trolling? do they not have a more useful purpose?
i'll interpret that as their only use being to annoy people
23/f and down to party
Don’t ever listen to advice from PrepHole.
I just use a dremel as a mixer
kitchenaid service manuals
https://www.kitchenaidexperts.com/kitchenaid-service-manuals.htm
service manual with better pics
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1287121/Kitchenaid-K4ss.html
Just use hand.
>be in the market for a stand mixer
>see this thread
Is KitchenAid worth the money? It's €500 new, €300-ish second hand. I discovered I can't eat gluten, and industrial gluten-free bread has skyrocketed in price (it's around 15 €/kg or 7 $/lb) and it tastes like shit, so I've started making my own bread with great results. Now I want to make my life easier with a stand mixer.
For comparison, the gorillion different models of Kenwood stand mixers range from the price of a kitchenaid to €150; badge engineered shit on Amazon goes from €75 to €150; the cheapest no-name stand mixer I was able to find second hand in my area is €35.
It's really the only stand mixer worth buying in the US. No idea on europe.
Could get a used one too
>No idea on europe.
pic rel is good for me, but I never used the kitchen aid
>Is KitchenAid worth the money?
Yes, get one.
The cheap ones are ok to make cake but bread is a different thing.
I thought they were overpriced until I opened the box. The thing is built like a drill press from the 70s, pretty much the opposite of every plastic gear piece of shit consumer grade appliance you can buy these days. I think there’s a reason everybody who cooks much has one.
Kitchenaid sells refurbs for decent prices too, maybe you can get those in Yurop.
Yes I have one from 2004, it's the heaviest appliance in the kitchen, I dont think it would ever break. Has never given any issues. That and a Zojirishi rice cooker.
Depends on your use case. My wife has a food allergy and has to cook basically all of her food. We have a KitchenAid 6qt that I've had to repair twice. Both times she stripped out a sacrificial gear. It kicks ass for repairability and fast whipping, but if you have a heavy dough they have enough power to kill themselves trying to mix it.
If you never need to whip egg whites get
https://www.ankarsrum.com/us/ready-to-assist-in-your-kitchen/
Instead. These frickers can mix our 6 cups of flower ginger bread recipe without even heating up. If you lean more toward making breads it's a better choice. (Also we have never broken ours in 5 years of heavy use but they are very repairable but you have to get parts from Europe)
Very cool product, probably more fit to my needs, but it's more than double the cost of a second hand KitchenAid, way outside my budget. That being said, it's good to know that KitchenAid is made to last, as in "to be serviced".
Fair call, we waited for a sale and a cupon and a credit card deal and every other little trick to drop the price. If you are looking at a used KitchenAid however, as other anons have said, get yourself a tub of food safe grease and change out the grease inside maybe once a year or two. Other than that don't TRY and blow them up and they last. Loads of accessories too for later. I really recommend getting a second bowl and mixing paddle so you don't have to wash them mid recipe. And the pasta roller is pretty good. And the meat grinder is pretty good.
You are making a good choice. Don't forget to post what you make later. PrepHole is for gays bread is PrepHole
You don't need a mixer to make gluten-free shit. The point of using one is developing gluten.
The point of using a mixer is to mix. Hand mixing high idration batches of dough for bread and pizza gets tiring fast, with or without gluten. With a stand mixer you just throw everything in the bowl and turn it on.
>Hand mixing high idration batches of dough for bread and pizza gets tiring fast,
so don't knead the dough and just let it sit for 30 to 45 minutes.
Mixing higher hydration doughs is easier than lower hydration ones whether you're developing gluten or not. It makes zero sense to buy a mixer for making small batches of gluten-free goyslop. I have a 7 qt Kitchenaid which I love dearly, but I mix 4 kgs of whole rye every few days by hand precisely because it's faster and easier than washing the dough hook.
>goyslop
Opinion discarded.
Irrational, but not surprising.
At that price range, the swedish Ankarsrum has more power and size
i lucked into a free 7qt kitchenaid, and the spiral hook works wonderfully for pizza and pasta doughs. it's worth €300 if you can keep it forever. if you regularly have to sell all your shit as you move between rented apartments it would be a silly purchase.
side note, a gluten-free croissant is the most depressing thing i have ever eaten
Any commercial kitchen equipment made before 2004
I have one that was in storage for about a year laying on its side. Some of the grease leaked out. I cleaned that up, but now am wondering if I should take it apart and relube the gears. Maybe clean up inside in general. Having been on its side for that long and leaking out grease probably means it moved around into other spots that could lead to it leaking into the bowl at some point.
old style grease (pre 2016).
https://producthelp.kitchenaid.com/Countertop_Appliances/Stand_Mixers/Tilt_Head_Mixer/Other/Oil_Leaking_from_Stand_Mixer
I sold a Hobart era lift bowl and replaced it with a modern liftbowl professional
I dont regret it, modern attachments like the dough hooks are way better. it powers through double batches of pizza dough like a champ.
Been running strong for over 2 years with moderate use.
I had put a grounded plug on the hobart as it was shocking people, greased it all up and it ran fine.
I also replaced the worm gear in my grandmothers Proline from the 90s.
They are pretty easy to work on
Im pretty sure shitty ceramic stoves and electric coil stove hate is propaganda from big stove because of how fricking easy they are to work on
Pro tip if you have an electric coil stove and you hate it there is probably something easily fixable wrong with it
I replaced our electric stove in our new house with propane, I have 2 100lbs propane tanks hooked up to it, and a tap for a grill. electric sucks.
Glass top is so easy to clean though.
after 10 years it's full of scratches
>burning propane inside your home
rip your children's repiratory health
>Paying the propane man to frick your wife while your not home.
I bet your wife just LOVES the new stove and used it all the time now right?
Another shockingly repairable appliance are Kitchenaid and Cuisinart blender, as well as Panasonic and Zojirushi bread machines.
I'd give the edge to Vitamix for a blender.
inherited this fricker, and it leaked oil.
thing is build like a tractor, hobbed spiral gears, ball bearings, spline shaft, radial shaft seal
speed adjust by ceramic wire wound resistors.
the only thing i can claim they dont build em like they used to anymore
every time these get discussed people complain about le plastic gears grrr le engineers!! without realizing that the gear is plastic on purpose, it's a built-in failure point to prevent something much more expensive from breaking.
if the gear strips you were using the machine improperly and you're lucky people much smarter than you predicted this and saved you the costs of replacing the motor.
>rhetorics
Then the package would come with spare for the designed failure point.
why wouldn't it come with a spare of everything? dumbass. this isn't a controversial idea and failure points have been standard commercial engineering practice for decades. the fact you're arguing against this tells me you're unqualified to comment on engineering.
Because it’s only a failure point if you misuse it. The average person probably won’t need to fix it.
Also when you break it from abuse, you gotta feel a little bit of pain and wait for the part to show up.
This
I bought an $89 chinkesium stand mixer and said to myself whe n it broke I'd get a kitchenaid but the stupid thing is still alive 4 years later and I use it 5-6 times a month. Wobbles a bit because its too lightweight for its motor but still going
come home white man