What air-defense doing?

So can we finally agree Russian SAMs are a meme?

https://x.com/osinttechnical/status/1748679180030480771?s=46&t=32W1Oi8jU-W4xzxTDymKHQ

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    don't be rude anon
    blowing prematurely is what many men struggle with

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >NIGERUNDAYO SAMYYY!!!

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >no gps fix
    Atleast russian EW was jamming commercial GPS signals though it didnt help much

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    frick that x shit post webm

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        would be funny if it was going for regular ass trench mobiks, but noticed and took out AA because of that failed intercept

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know who or why came up with the name Warmate as it fricking screams ESL but it's basically a Polish Lancet so as long as it kills ziggers I like it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not bad ROO for 30k drone.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >30k drone
        how are those shits so expensive
        is it just military margins or what

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oi it's a fukkin warmate

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't know who or why came up with the name Warmate as it fricking screams ESL
      Really? It just seems like some kind of American corporate marketing name to me.

      Get the new Warmate! Xtreme iBuddy sponsored by Chevron!

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    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      gr8 warm8 m8, i r8 it 8/8

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    NOOO THAT'S NOT FAIR IT WAS RELOADING!!!

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What air-defense doing?
    clearly missing

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    New drone type?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      old(er), actually

      did it destroy it? These kamikaze drones always seem kinda weak

      it actually has a bigger boom package than the usual stuff that is used.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    always has been

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >spent trillions building different tanks and alike
    >literally countered by 200$ drones with an rpg warhead

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's actually a high quality Polish drone built for Russian EW.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Any ideas when and where this was shot

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It was somewhere in belgorod region last spring/summer if my memory serves me well.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    tor was retreating, shooting retreating enemy is a warcrime

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    hey, at least it tried to shoot the drone down.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    did it destroy it? These kamikaze drones always seem kinda weak

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >did it destroy it?
      Tor only has 8 mm armor, if it's a HEAT warhead, it probably penetrated at least.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Russian SAMs a meme
    No, they still intercept incoming missiles and drones on a weekly basis and this TOR actually picked up the drone's signature however that missile suffered a critical failure and was likely defected straight from the factory. The TOR did its job but something is clearly fricked with the some of the missiles its armed with

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's proximity fuse initiated the warhead and it failed to kill the target.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I know but it detonated a good distance away from the drone or anything really. Theres another TOR video where the missile flies pass the drone and fails to detonate which I kind of get because of how small some of them are

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the missile was remotely detonated in an attempt to hit the drone with shrapnel

          https://twitter.com/RemigiuszWilk/status/1748665656688394486

          he works for the polish company that made the drone

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            he suggests that TOR was unable to acquire lock but how would that even work? they fired it on a good guess and tried to detonate it remotely by eye-measurement?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              they fired and manually guided it after seeing it on radar most likely, then eye balled the detonation in an attempt to get the shrapnel to pepper the drone. Doesn't take much to take drones down

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Manual guidance. I unironically learned that from warthunder

                I've had no idea they have manual guidance mode. thanks for the explanation

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Manual (human) guidance basically sucks for AA, bongs figured that sucks with blowpipe a while ago.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >blowpipe
                Yet they continue to use it as the basis for more modern missiles like Starburst and Martlet.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Manual guidance. I unironically learned that from warthunder

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >It didn't hit anything, it was detonated on command. The crew, in desperation and unable to target the target, forced an explosion in the air, hoping that it might be possible to destroy the incoming loitering ammunition.
              His words

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                they fired and manually guided it after seeing it on radar most likely, then eye balled the detonation in an attempt to get the shrapnel to pepper the drone. Doesn't take much to take drones down

                he suggests that TOR was unable to acquire lock but how would that even work? they fired it on a good guess and tried to detonate it remotely by eye-measurement?

                he is wrong, he doesn't understand that the 9M331 is prox fused and the drone just got lucky in the frag pattern. also the frag pattern and detonation range is optimized for faster moving targets. prop powered targets present a challenging target for air defense for many reasons

                first of all they are harder to detect than faster moving targets unless you can detect doppler off the props themselves. second of all the warheads themselves aren't optimized for these targets. and then of course there is the cost exchange ratio between the missile and the incoming one way attack drone.

                the idea that the crew manually guided this missile onto a moving target and then command detonated it in the exact split second to hit the drone from kilometers away is utterly moronic

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                9M331 can also be command fused. No you wouldn't make the frag go in front of the target, the velocity of the frag is many times faster than the velocity of your aircraft, the ideal detonation location, even assuming you're leading the target, is much closer to detonating while pointing at the target than detonating in front of the target. That's a moot point anyways since you wouldn't have fixed lead, you'd have a lead determined by the velocity of the target.
                Prop powered targets are NOT a challenging target for air defense, they are only harder to detect if they're flying super low hugging the terrain and you're looking down towards the terrain, whereupon your range and doppler filters start struggling. That is, of course, assuming you aren't detecting the frickhuge, very recognizable returns of the propeller which is rarely if ever sufficiently masked to make detection difficult. This is not the case, they are aiming upwards with no mountains or clouds around whatsoever, there is literally no clutter around to frick up their track. The warheads will blow up prop planes just as easily as jets, there is no "optimization" for jet aircraft that would render them significantly less effective for props. You also don't seem to understand Russian AD operating modes either, Tor can use optical targeting as well as radar targeting and in this mode they use SACLOS/"3-point" guidance AFAIK, typically used only when the radar is unable to track the target, the crew isn't literally giving the control inputs to the missile you absolute buffoon. All in all moron/10 post.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >good distance away
          Doesn't look it could've gotten any closer. Detonated with the drone exactly at 90 degrees - so at nearest approach. Might be limitation of boost phase, when the missile is just thrown 200m straight into sky expecting to start steering only later on.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Unlikely, TOR is SHORAD and this looks way further than minrange. Given that it looks like it just overlead the loitering munition it definitely had turning room to point towards the target, and since it's VLS we can assume there isn't a reason it couldn't have therefore flown an intercept path. I don't have a TOR manual to peruse of course but I doubt this was at short enough of a range the missile can't maneuver to hit a fricking slow flying drone that hasn't changed its flightpath since launch (presumably). It's a shame we don't have footage of the missile's trajectory. I don't think it was command detonated like the other anons say though, if they had accurate ranging data they shouldn't have missed by a country mile, it was likely the proxy fuze which generally can pick up even small targets just due to how close they get.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >no
      No to your "no" lol

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Have another

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          thank you.
          I have that one as my third, but its still welcome
          have the fourth in return, good sir

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            huh? what? how? why?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Most likely cause is the control surface jammed.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Most likely cause is the control surface jammed.

              The missile was clearly afraid leaving it's nest and tried to return

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The missile understood it was being used for evil and tried to redeem itself by killing Russian.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Warmate
    I've seen couple of videos of them fricking up russian AA and EW lately. Switchblade where you at???

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you go for manual guidance and detonation? wtf

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      looking at the video the drone was really close so they couldn't lock it
      just an uneducated guess

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Haven't seen a lot of warmates in use, how do they compare to switchblades and other munitions?

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    always have been newbie

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Rusisters, I'm not feeling so good.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Warmate

    Are those Australian drones? Ukrainian alterations of Australian drone technology

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Iranian-backed Militants Attack Al-Assad Airbase, Iraq
    >At approximately 6:30 p.m. (Baghdad time) time Jan. 20, multiple ballistic missiles and rockets were launched by Iranian-backed militants in Western Iraq targeting al-Assad Airbase. Most of the missiles were intercepted by the base’s air defense systems while others impacted on the base. Damage assessments are ongoing. A number of U.S. personnel are undergoing evaluation for traumatic brain injuries. At least one Iraqi service member was wounded.
    https://twitter.com/CENTCOM/status/1748831942299246640?t=07pyzza7MqnwfXrjMNPnfw&s=19
    It turns out US Patriot batteries got overwhelmed in Iraq by Iranian ballistic missiles again: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/massive-attack-on-al-assad-air-base-in-iraq-airstrikes-hit-houthi-missiles

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Pantsir will keep us sa-ACK!

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    shit happens

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