So can we finally agree Russian SAMs are a meme?
https://x.com/osinttechnical/status/1748679180030480771?s=46&t=32W1Oi8jU-W4xzxTDymKHQ
What air-defense doing?
So can we finally agree Russian SAMs are a meme?
https://x.com/osinttechnical/status/1748679180030480771?s=46&t=32W1Oi8jU-W4xzxTDymKHQ
don't be rude anon
blowing prematurely is what many men struggle with
>NIGERUNDAYO SAMYYY!!!
>no gps fix
Atleast russian EW was jamming commercial GPS signals though it didnt help much
frick that x shit post webm
would be funny if it was going for regular ass trench mobiks, but noticed and took out AA because of that failed intercept
I don't know who or why came up with the name Warmate as it fricking screams ESL but it's basically a Polish Lancet so as long as it kills ziggers I like it.
Not bad ROO for 30k drone.
>30k drone
how are those shits so expensive
is it just military margins or what
Oi it's a fukkin warmate
>I don't know who or why came up with the name Warmate as it fricking screams ESL
Really? It just seems like some kind of American corporate marketing name to me.
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NOOO THAT'S NOT FAIR IT WAS RELOADING!!!
>What air-defense doing?
clearly missing
New drone type?
old(er), actually
it actually has a bigger boom package than the usual stuff that is used.
always has been
>spent trillions building different tanks and alike
>literally countered by 200$ drones with an rpg warhead
That's actually a high quality Polish drone built for Russian EW.
Any ideas when and where this was shot
It was somewhere in belgorod region last spring/summer if my memory serves me well.
tor was retreating, shooting retreating enemy is a warcrime
hey, at least it tried to shoot the drone down.
did it destroy it? These kamikaze drones always seem kinda weak
>did it destroy it?
Tor only has 8 mm armor, if it's a HEAT warhead, it probably penetrated at least.
>Russian SAMs a meme
No, they still intercept incoming missiles and drones on a weekly basis and this TOR actually picked up the drone's signature however that missile suffered a critical failure and was likely defected straight from the factory. The TOR did its job but something is clearly fricked with the some of the missiles its armed with
it's proximity fuse initiated the warhead and it failed to kill the target.
I know but it detonated a good distance away from the drone or anything really. Theres another TOR video where the missile flies pass the drone and fails to detonate which I kind of get because of how small some of them are
the missile was remotely detonated in an attempt to hit the drone with shrapnel
https://twitter.com/RemigiuszWilk/status/1748665656688394486
he works for the polish company that made the drone
he suggests that TOR was unable to acquire lock but how would that even work? they fired it on a good guess and tried to detonate it remotely by eye-measurement?
they fired and manually guided it after seeing it on radar most likely, then eye balled the detonation in an attempt to get the shrapnel to pepper the drone. Doesn't take much to take drones down
I've had no idea they have manual guidance mode. thanks for the explanation
Manual (human) guidance basically sucks for AA, bongs figured that sucks with blowpipe a while ago.
>blowpipe
Yet they continue to use it as the basis for more modern missiles like Starburst and Martlet.
Manual guidance. I unironically learned that from warthunder
>It didn't hit anything, it was detonated on command. The crew, in desperation and unable to target the target, forced an explosion in the air, hoping that it might be possible to destroy the incoming loitering ammunition.
His words
he is wrong, he doesn't understand that the 9M331 is prox fused and the drone just got lucky in the frag pattern. also the frag pattern and detonation range is optimized for faster moving targets. prop powered targets present a challenging target for air defense for many reasons
first of all they are harder to detect than faster moving targets unless you can detect doppler off the props themselves. second of all the warheads themselves aren't optimized for these targets. and then of course there is the cost exchange ratio between the missile and the incoming one way attack drone.
the idea that the crew manually guided this missile onto a moving target and then command detonated it in the exact split second to hit the drone from kilometers away is utterly moronic
9M331 can also be command fused. No you wouldn't make the frag go in front of the target, the velocity of the frag is many times faster than the velocity of your aircraft, the ideal detonation location, even assuming you're leading the target, is much closer to detonating while pointing at the target than detonating in front of the target. That's a moot point anyways since you wouldn't have fixed lead, you'd have a lead determined by the velocity of the target.
Prop powered targets are NOT a challenging target for air defense, they are only harder to detect if they're flying super low hugging the terrain and you're looking down towards the terrain, whereupon your range and doppler filters start struggling. That is, of course, assuming you aren't detecting the frickhuge, very recognizable returns of the propeller which is rarely if ever sufficiently masked to make detection difficult. This is not the case, they are aiming upwards with no mountains or clouds around whatsoever, there is literally no clutter around to frick up their track. The warheads will blow up prop planes just as easily as jets, there is no "optimization" for jet aircraft that would render them significantly less effective for props. You also don't seem to understand Russian AD operating modes either, Tor can use optical targeting as well as radar targeting and in this mode they use SACLOS/"3-point" guidance AFAIK, typically used only when the radar is unable to track the target, the crew isn't literally giving the control inputs to the missile you absolute buffoon. All in all moron/10 post.
>good distance away
Doesn't look it could've gotten any closer. Detonated with the drone exactly at 90 degrees - so at nearest approach. Might be limitation of boost phase, when the missile is just thrown 200m straight into sky expecting to start steering only later on.
Unlikely, TOR is SHORAD and this looks way further than minrange. Given that it looks like it just overlead the loitering munition it definitely had turning room to point towards the target, and since it's VLS we can assume there isn't a reason it couldn't have therefore flown an intercept path. I don't have a TOR manual to peruse of course but I doubt this was at short enough of a range the missile can't maneuver to hit a fricking slow flying drone that hasn't changed its flightpath since launch (presumably). It's a shame we don't have footage of the missile's trajectory. I don't think it was command detonated like the other anons say though, if they had accurate ranging data they shouldn't have missed by a country mile, it was likely the proxy fuze which generally can pick up even small targets just due to how close they get.
>no
No to your "no" lol
Have another
thank you.
I have that one as my third, but its still welcome
have the fourth in return, good sir
huh? what? how? why?
Most likely cause is the control surface jammed.
The missile was clearly afraid leaving it's nest and tried to return
The missile understood it was being used for evil and tried to redeem itself by killing Russian.
>Warmate
I've seen couple of videos of them fricking up russian AA and EW lately. Switchblade where you at???
Why would you go for manual guidance and detonation? wtf
looking at the video the drone was really close so they couldn't lock it
just an uneducated guess
Haven't seen a lot of warmates in use, how do they compare to switchblades and other munitions?
always have been newbie
Rusisters, I'm not feeling so good.
>Warmate
Are those Australian drones? Ukrainian alterations of Australian drone technology
>Iranian-backed Militants Attack Al-Assad Airbase, Iraq
>At approximately 6:30 p.m. (Baghdad time) time Jan. 20, multiple ballistic missiles and rockets were launched by Iranian-backed militants in Western Iraq targeting al-Assad Airbase. Most of the missiles were intercepted by the base’s air defense systems while others impacted on the base. Damage assessments are ongoing. A number of U.S. personnel are undergoing evaluation for traumatic brain injuries. At least one Iraqi service member was wounded.
https://twitter.com/CENTCOM/status/1748831942299246640?t=07pyzza7MqnwfXrjMNPnfw&s=19
It turns out US Patriot batteries got overwhelmed in Iraq by Iranian ballistic missiles again: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/massive-attack-on-al-assad-air-base-in-iraq-airstrikes-hit-houthi-missiles
>Pantsir will keep us sa-ACK!
shit happens