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So there's picrealted. Is it even theoretically possible to compile a similar shit for non-nato side (including on-paper-only and trust-me-bro designs)?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    pics like this with pictures of one off technology demonstrators are worthless

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      AbramsX is the Armata for zogbots. I'll believe it when it's a real production tank.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        And really we fall back into the age old question of "can these wunderwaffen actually be mass produced?" Who is going to build these things? Where? In what factory? In what number, and for what gain? I understand chasing future force multipliers are important, but it is clear things are moving towards "cheaper = better". You want more shit to fill the frontline, and you don't want to be like Russia where their good shit gets blasted in the first few months and now after a year they're forced to use T-55's.

        It's one thing to curbstomp Arabs into the ground with space age technology, but against a real military you're going to be trading billions of dollars worth of equipment in the first few months for zero real gain. I would be all for it if the production side of things was real, but it isn't. There's going to be one factory in Kentucky or Texas that will specialize in this, and they'll only make 3-5 a month. Wow, totally sustainable in a real war.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >but it is clear things are moving towards "cheaper = better"
          >you don't want to be like Russia where their good shit gets blasted in the first few months and now after a year they're forced to use T-55's.
          What do you mean anon, the T-55 is probably the cheapest tank in service right now, so it should be the best right?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            No, you misunderstand. Cheaper force multipliers are going to be most relevant going forward, things that can be readily fielded and mass produced - like drones, but not just them. Because the problem here is not the US military's budget in and of itself, it's the fact it no longer invests much in production. If we have a handful of AbramsX's and entire regiments of Abrams, which do you think is better? Obviously the latter, not because they're older and thus cheaper, but because they can actually fill a frontline and nobody is going to be worried about losing them.

            Invest more in production - which will drive down the cost, it always does - and you'll see me change my mind.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          while literally any conceptual design (even if it's working in single digits) is obviously a meme and just demo/tech testing and won't do for anything else really (besides mentioned examples of complete technological domination, just like sr71 did), it really is quite fascinating that even with fricking suspended disbelief and complete carte blanche on spewing bs - eastern military literally has nothing.

          even in the fricking fantasy propaganda my ass world they are the underdog somehow when compared to somewhat real western stuff

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The armata isn't a real production tank.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Abramsx is a real functioning show piece that does every single thing it is claimed to do, and the US doesn't care
        Armarta is a total obvious scam that doesn't function and Russia copes behind it as a last line of defence
        Kys

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Last time I checked, the Armatard was supposed to be an actual, functioning piece of mainline military equipment, not the tank version of a wacky concept car like AbramsX

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      like half the stuff in OPs image are in front line service right now, some of it is more than 20 years old

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    but do you have

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    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I am sure the british have a working Tiger in a museum, and germany, australia and france have plenty of working tiger helos, so yes.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sure we can clone those.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      do bobcats count?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The US literally has more tigers than Russia

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I find it insane that there are more tigers in Texas than there are in the entirety of Bengal

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          more tigers in captivity in usa than free roaming in the entire world kek

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    > Is it even theoretically possible to compile a similar shit for non-nato side
    BRICS(?) can't show comparatives except for that vaporware chink rail gun and their (inferior) drones. You could definitely make a BRICS humiliation collage though, I'll post some pics to get you started.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/4vVmK9w.jpg

      So there's picrealted. Is it even theoretically possible to compile a similar shit for non-nato side (including on-paper-only and trust-me-bro designs)?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/4vVmK9w.jpg

        So there's picrealted. Is it even theoretically possible to compile a similar shit for non-nato side (including on-paper-only and trust-me-bro designs)?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          front fell off

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      radar-guided AGS-17?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, its a radar system that can allegedly detect moving objects and then prints the info to the screen that you can kinda see in the back, no guidance involved. It's basically russia's pitiful attempt at making up for the fact that they can't produce or buy infared scopes in any sort of quantity or quality.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I'm guessing the keyword is allegedly because that sounds very useful if it would actually work

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            No, it's absolutely useless when it does work, because you can't actually tell what the radar is picking up, let alone if it's an enemy or friendly, it just shows you a blip on the screen... and that's when it works, which is half the time at best even in ideal conditions.
            This is technology from the 70s that was junked at the time for being totally useless and all they've done to modernize it is to display the radar contacts with a rudimentary graphical display instead of an auditory tone.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/oBnvUEF.jpg

            No, it's absolutely useless when it does work, because you can't actually tell what the radar is picking up, let alone if it's an enemy or friendly, it just shows you a blip on the screen... and that's when it works, which is half the time at best even in ideal conditions.
            This is technology from the 70s that was junked at the time for being totally useless and all they've done to modernize it is to display the radar contacts with a rudimentary graphical display instead of an auditory tone.

            Oh and did I mention that using it lights up your position on radar, meaning that anyone with a passive radar can pinpoint your location from literally miles away.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
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      Anonymous

      frick, these are some good frickign pics

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
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  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    None of the items posted has any value in actual combat, including the F35, obsolete tanks and the robot Doggo.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i wonder what made these tanks obsolete and f35 useless. surely it can't be the wooden checkmate

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You know the MIC is coping when they suggest that the dog robot will be used as a pack mule.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        the real point of em is to provide a cheap, compact and reliable all-terrain platform for a whole array of tasks

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          All of which could be done by a regular soldier, and better.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            oh right, humans sure do cost sub 500K$ and can be manufactured in thousands of combat ready units in a week

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Humans are powered by 5 dollar ration bars in real combat conditions. A huge chunk of that $500k is the battery, which won't find a power source in a real war.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                just like tanks won't find fuel, i see
                well, won't be the first time for some

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Fuel is easily transportable. Electricity isn't. That's why going to electric vehicles in the military is a stupid idea, btw.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                electricity is easily manufactured, fuel is not
                that's why one can just plug a couple tens of batteries in a generator and swap em with depleted stock 2-4 hours later

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >electricity is easily manufactured
                Yeah, yeah. Government is sitting on zero point energy.
                >>>/x/

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >small solar panels don't exist
                >they also couldn't be used to charge half the batteries as the other half are in use
                >electricity is magic and can only be created through an act of Zeus

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >REAL MILITARIES DON'T HAVE FUEL GENERATORS IT'S IMPOSSIBLE
                guess how I know you're a thirdie

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                humans get paid a salary, and you have to treat their wounds.
                if the dog gets casualtied, you just spike spike.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Humans are surprisingly expensive and maintenance is much higher
            When a robot pops a joint because you overloaded it's carrying capacity, it's a matter of replacing a few screws and bearings
            If the same happens to a human, well
            >We've determined your disabilities are not service-related

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