Weird things people say about weapons

Somebody once told me striker fired pistols can be carried ready to shoot but hammer fired ones should be either carried unchambered or with safety on.

Are there actually any reasons why carrying chambered striker fired gun is safer than hammer fired?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    perhaps they feel that the hammer can be bumped, striking the pin and causing an ND

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    glocks in particular have more than one safety which makes it literally impossible to discharge a round without the trigger being pulled, completely drop safe.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is all correct though?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No it isn't lol. Why would say, a Beretta or USP not be able to be carried with the safety off?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      generally no. except if you have a single action only hammer fired pistol with a light trigger and no automatic safeties. that I wouldn't carry with the safety off. I wouldn't carry a single action only striker fired pistol with the safety off either. almost all striker fired pistols are not single action only and have multiple automatic safeties, which is why they're safe to carry without manual safety.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Actually, a lot of striker fired pistols are literally single action only with the exception of the Glock that is almost technically a double action since the striker isn't cocked 100% unlike the Smith and Wesson M&P or the Sig offerings that are 100% cocked and are only relying on the firing pin safety.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The glock striker is about 80% cocked; more than enough to set off a round. The "double action", or additional 20% striker cocking is just to give the pistol a long and heavy trigger pull (compared to a SAO). Learn how the pistol works before spouting off nonsense. The glock has three automatic safety mechanisms in additional to the heavy trigger. 1. The trigger safety which prevents the trigger from being pulled intertially p320 style 2. A striker block which prevents the striker from moving forward without the trigger being pulled and 3. A drop safety that blocks the sear bar from releasing the striker unless the trigger is pulled.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Are there actually any reasons why carrying chambered striker fired gun is safer than hammer fired?
    no

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    some hammerfired guns have light triggers, that could be considered hair triggers. carrying them with the safety off means a slight bump would set that shit off.
    a well designed striker gun will never have a trigger that light unless its a sig p320
    fucking sig

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, that's silly.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of striker-fired guns, including Glocks, don't fully cock the striker until the trigger is pulled. If the striker were to fall without the trigger being pulled it theoretically doesn't have enough energy to set off the primer. If you watch an animation of how a Glock works (for example) you can see that the first thing the trigger does is pull back the striker to its fully rearward position. This is different from hammer-fired guns which keep the hammer fully cocked.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      First off, not all striker fired guns work like the glock. Some have the striker fully cocked and rely entirely on passive safeties. Other older designs operate the same as an SAO hammer fired gun with no passive safeties and only a manual safety. Secondly, only some hammer fired guns keep the hammer fully cocked, relying on a manual safety, which is a perfectly safe method of carry itself. Many are designed to be carried with the hammer down or at a half-cock notch making the first pull a very long heavy double action pull. All modern hammer fired guns also include a passive firing pin block safety unless it's a purely competition gun like a CZ Shadow.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      First off, not all striker fired guns work like the glock. Some have the striker fully cocked and rely entirely on passive safeties. Other older designs operate the same as an SAO hammer fired gun with no passive safeties and only a manual safety. Secondly, only some hammer fired guns keep the hammer fully cocked, relying on a manual safety, which is a perfectly safe method of carry itself. Many are designed to be carried with the hammer down or at a half-cock notch making the first pull a very long heavy double action pull. All modern hammer fired guns also include a passive firing pin block safety unless it's a purely competition gun like a CZ Shadow.

      don't listen to either of these dumb cunts
      Glocks have firing pin safety, second if you buy a factory Glock, do not fuck with it EVER unless you have built like 2 dozen Glocks.... Trigger housing connector isn't the EXACT right dimensions(same with slide connector groove) guess what you put that fucker at the right angle or get unlucky it will fire, fuck whatever sear engagement you THOUGHT you had, on multiple glocks I have had to physically modify my connectors, it usually only happens if you push the back to the left while manually cycling, but if your dumb and unlucky just chambering a round is a fire, and if your really unlucky your going full auto....

      That said again when you buy a Glock brand Glock your getting factory tuning, including parts made to work 100% by Glock armorer, it's the armorers you want... If you know what you are doing you can build a polymer pistol glock build make it safe and fuck what retards say about glock triggers you will have to cleanest breaks known to man.... But if your not into building literally a dozen+ guns, buy a OEM glock, and know your gunna be fucking real safe and ready to rock when the time comes...

      Also just carry C3 pussy nobody wants to fucking shoot you, you don't need to respond to gunfire in 0.1 seconds flat, it takes a quarter second to rack on pull.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What retarded bullshit are you doing? Does it involve 3d printing or p80s?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >What retarded bullshit are you doing?
          >not what I would do must be retarded
          any better examples of Dunning-Krueger?

          typical internet goblin behavior, go outside and get some vitamin D, like your mom

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What changes are you doing to factory glocks thay results in you constently having to modify multiple parts to make them work? Clearly there is something you are leaving out.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >What changes are you doing to factory glocks thay results in you constently having to modify multiple parts to make them work
              holy shit retard did you not just read? or are you that fucking retarded you can drop 1 OEM same gen, same batch glock slide onto another and there is adamn good chance it will FUCK UP, glock armorers tune literally every single gun, with specific parts that work together good, if you change ANYTHING on a glock, even with other "OEM" parts not originally sold BY GLOCK WITH THAT EXACT GUN your asking for fuckups, love to see retards like you running around, this is old news and common knowledge amongst not newfags, keep showing your colors newbie

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ah you are fucktarded. Got it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                loves fudds like you, bet you only buy new and always drive to the gunstore, can't be sure an online gun is legit. we all know IRL nobody likes you, get some help, find a friend, get a hobby, take some vitamins, brush your teeth

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                8/10 B8 M8
                Was new to glocks.. built about 20 P80's with random slides factory and aftermarket, random hardware, etc.. never had one that didn't function perfectly right away.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that is because you took them to the range, you need to properly stress them, start racking them in every conceivable way imaginable. Try pushing the back from the left side as much to the right thru the entire action as you rack it, keeping pressure, if you can do this 10 times with every pistol then you don't need to worry about connector issues.

                https://i.imgur.com/CTcuNAO.jpg

                Joe, Joe, I know it's late, but you're the president, not a self defense lawyer.

                First things first, I shot 4 people when I lived in Detroit. Self defense cases are open and shut if a gun is pointed at you. Also never give anyone your shit. They will come back. They will get angry fast. If someone is willing to rob you they are willing to come back and teach you a lesson when they got a wallet full of frozen cards and a wiped iphone they can't figure out how to make saleable for more than $20.

                Second, anyone who has a gun can choose to shoot you on a whim, or even do so by accident, so if a gun is out of its holster the closer it gets to being pointed at you the sooner your life will most likely end. You need to shoot. You will die. You are not a video game character who runs his draw and cock action when the experienced player behind you presses the button, you fumble and stumble and hesitate. You are not SF. You are pretty average.

                Third, if you aren't a retard carrying a boomer design, having a round in the chamber and the gun ready to go is incredibly safe. I only consider it sketchy when the 1911 or a similar gun is involved because I *HAVE* both accidentally disengaged and forgotten 1911 safeties. Human error. It's a fucking thumbrest. It's way simpler at a monkey brain level to keep your finger OFF something which is why DA revolvers and their spiritual successors, striker guns, are the standard for self defense, and weird compromises like DA/SA and retardation like SAO fell by the wayside pretty fast.

                >If someone is willing to rob you they are willing to come back and teach you a lesson when they got a wallet full of frozen cards and a wiped iphone they can't figure out how to make saleable for more than $20.

                Great LARP but I am only interested in non-fiction so i put your book down here, keep writing though I am sure someone is interested, somewhere, in india

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Great larp
                The first time I was mugged I gave him my wallet and canceled all the cards 30 minutes later. He saw me next week, pulled a gun, had a phone in his other hand, and asked for "THE REAL FUCKING VISA, AND TELL ME THAT ADDRESS SHIT". He was smart for a robber but I shot him twice. He lived with one kidney and I was not charged. I saw him last week and bought him a donut.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The first time I was mugged I gave him my wallet and canceled all the cards 30 minutes later.
                thanks for proving my point again
                >if someone pulls a gun on you to rob you literally give them your shit, it's not worth it
                your so dumb it physically hurts my brain thinking how you can be so stupid

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The one time I gave them my shit they came back. The other 3 times they had guns so I just shot.

                I would rather shoot someone than risk my life at all. Thank fuck I moved to monroe because if I ever followed your fudd advice I would have been killed several times over.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you could wear a vest you fucking moron, or again, as you did move, you decided to put yourself into those situations, I doubt you were out at a crowded walmart among dozens of people in broad daylight when this happened?

                your so dumb it hurts

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah let's just wear vests everywhere we go and and hope for the best when crime comes our way. Or better yet, lets just uproot our lives and families lives to move somewhere else out in the middle of buttfuck nowhere. Oh and lets only go out to certain places at certain times of the day. You're a fucking moron. I've met some dumb people in my day, but you take the cake. Either that or you're baiting,and if thats the case, we'll done.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Knew you would come back with a boogeyman also, fucking called it, because you live in a fucking dangerous place everyone should carry C1, got it, thanks, bye

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He saw me next week
                >I saw him last week
                is this normal to run into the same muggers over and over again and be on a first name basis with them???

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                let's just end this here I am tired of waiting on your dumbass you need to stop talking to me

                C1 didn't help you, if he had a gun pulled and you had time to pull and shoot him twice you had time to rack. at this point I don't give a shit what you are saying your so far up your own ass you forgot what we are talking about and you are using talking to me as a vehicle to extol your own superiority in a gunfight because your a fucking pussy. So literally nothing you say matter, you have already proven to be an unreliable narrator, by saying this clearly stupid gentleman who robbed you twice was smart to boost your own prowess in prevailing over him, he sounds downright stupid and desperate, and now, as we get back to the main fucking point you failed to address and will no doubt come back to boogeyman some bullshit how of course carrying C1 was the only reason you survived your jungle commando combat as 1 v at least a dozen armed commandos, you will fail to address my point that your story clearly indicates C1 DID NOT save you.... way to go letting your own bragging forget about your bullshit 1 post later and letting it slip, keep outsmarting 200IQ robbers going for credit cards(because of course companies would just actually send him the goods even if you canceled after the order, and petty thieves love putting down their addresses and ordering with stolen cards from their IPs) Mr. Sherlock Holmes.

                Fuck off loser.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not the anon you're arguing with, but it's pretty obvious that being mugged by someone with a gun is a high stress situation and you're going to be pretty freaked out. Also since the person accosting you already has the gun out every second counts. Clearly C1 is ideal for this, you don't want one more step you could potentially fuck up outside of draw-aim-shoot. One snag in that sequence and yes, it could have gotten him killed. I don't know why you're so angry about people carrying C1, it's literally how Glocks were designed to be carried, which you supposedly own and have built dozens of.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Stopped reading after the second sentence. Obvious bait or just really dumb. Also kys.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              it's spelled constantly btw, and multiple = constantly ffs, I can't even, your so fucking dumb do I have to explain multiple means more than 1, or that I own dozens of glocks? and how %'s work?

              god just fuck off retard, your so thirsty to shit on ppl

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Also just carry C3 pussy nobody wants to fucking shoot you, you don't need to respond to gunfire in 0.1 seconds flat, it takes a quarter second to rack on pull.
        The entire point of the gun is if someone wants to shoot you, not to blast a stray dog

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so in the time it takes someone to pull a trigger you can pull a gun, aim, and fire it? retards like you can't walk down the side of the road, what if someone decides to ram you with their car huh?

          Just stop, your not a threat, if someone pulls a gun on you to rob you literally give them your shit, it's not worth it even if you have 1 in the chamber, in any other situation your not a threat or intimidating, nobody feels the need to go after you first, you are basically a plant in the woods you will have plenty of time to draw retard, lmao I love how gunpervs act tough and also think they are constantly getting the attention of ppl who want to harm them and in danger 25/8

          You are literally 100x more likely to accidently kill someone and lose all your shit and goto jail carrying C1 than carrying C1 unironically ever saving you, let alone someone ever giving a fuck about you enough to even point a gun, your a nice, non threatening, beta male.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Joe, Joe, I know it's late, but you're the president, not a self defense lawyer.

            First things first, I shot 4 people when I lived in Detroit. Self defense cases are open and shut if a gun is pointed at you. Also never give anyone your shit. They will come back. They will get angry fast. If someone is willing to rob you they are willing to come back and teach you a lesson when they got a wallet full of frozen cards and a wiped iphone they can't figure out how to make saleable for more than $20.

            Second, anyone who has a gun can choose to shoot you on a whim, or even do so by accident, so if a gun is out of its holster the closer it gets to being pointed at you the sooner your life will most likely end. You need to shoot. You will die. You are not a video game character who runs his draw and cock action when the experienced player behind you presses the button, you fumble and stumble and hesitate. You are not SF. You are pretty average.

            Third, if you aren't a retard carrying a boomer design, having a round in the chamber and the gun ready to go is incredibly safe. I only consider it sketchy when the 1911 or a similar gun is involved because I *HAVE* both accidentally disengaged and forgotten 1911 safeties. Human error. It's a fucking thumbrest. It's way simpler at a monkey brain level to keep your finger OFF something which is why DA revolvers and their spiritual successors, striker guns, are the standard for self defense, and weird compromises like DA/SA and retardation like SAO fell by the wayside pretty fast.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Glocks Glock Glocks glocks Glock Glock Glock glock glock glock

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Most bought pistol in the USA, most used by law enforcement, most reliable, remind me did Sig change to striker fire to compete with glock or did glock start making hammer fired pistols? Wonder why a shit ton of pistols now are made with polymer... That is what I thought lil bitch.

          >Glocked

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            now that sig changed to striker to compete with glock, will glock ditch the metal lined poly bodied magazines and poly mag catches to compete with sig? or will they just make grips longer again?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              idk, shield arms or whatever the fuck they are names doing pretty cool shit with the G43/48 mags.... not sure why glock hasn't switched up but IMO their mag game weak, clearly they are doing something right since the Koreans still cannot match them but the prices too fucking high and on many of them I am having either issues with spring strength too strong or racking slide when full which I guess is both problem...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Glocks don't have sears retard. And glocks are stupid simple to upgrade.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're absolutely right for single action hammer fired, but double action is a thing and is arguably even safer than (the already safe) striker fired for safety off chambered carry.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Somebody once told me
    striker fired pistols
    can be carried ready to shoot
    But hammer fired ones
    Should be carried unchambered
    Or with the Safety oooooon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lol I read this in the tone of that one song from the 90s

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most of mine are from my /nogunz/ roommate.
    >BP guns are basically just hand grenades that will kill you
    >BP guns are also magically incapable of killing anything
    >Muzzleloaders are inherently inaccurate, refuses to listen to me about minie ball and volleyfire using undersized balls for faster reloads
    >9mm is too weak

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Weird things people say about weapons
    I once had a shop teacher say that the 9x18mm Makarov was a much deadlier handgun cartridge because the bullets would rapidly turn 90° after entering the body and travel through the torso/arm/leg laterally, doing more damage. I'm still trying to decide whether he was messing with us, or genuinely believed it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe this is an edgy soviet execution joke. Like people would kill themselves with it (shooting into temple) and it would 'magically ricochet 90 down into their body' (execution).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He probably heard about keyholing and took "tumbling end over end" to mean it literally turns 90 degrees and keeps going in a new trajectory. Although I don't think 9x18 is know for keyholing, but still.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Some people (generally nogunz, not only liberals) say weird things about differences between pistol and rifle
    >Rifle is more powerful than pistol mostly because pistol shoots once and rifle can shoot once, short burst or long burst.
    >Pistols are made for self defence and they deal almost no damage because they have small, round bullets. Rifles are meant to kill.
    Paradoxically author of the second quote thinks nobody would produce guns if they were only meant to kill.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      muh hydrostatic shock, not to mention you will be able to put rounds downrange faster and more accurately with a rifle, if your babble was true the army would be running around with pistols

      No liberals unironically think that, it's just shitlibs catering to their uneducated fearful minority of libs, same with republicraps catering to ROE v WADE weirdos, so lock up a minority but significant % of diehard voters....

      This thread isn't even about liberals you weirdo gunboner gay, what OP is talking about is well known before 1911's had titanium firing rods, the hammer COULD fail dropsafe and go off, only oldhead 1911 gays and their ilk know this meme, liberals know fuck all about 1911's they buy HK guns and Glocks, republicans buy Colt and 1911's

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You didn't understand what I mean. If I quoted liberals, this post would be incredibely long. Author of the first quote is a conservative nogunz who probably gained his knowledge by watching action movies. Author of the second quote is a gun rights advocate but also a retard who doesn't know shit about guns.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I spoke with a guy who was convinced that a 1oz slug from a shotgun would cause internal bleeding to someone even if they were wearing plates. In all fairness, looking back I think he was thinking that there would be huge back deformation on a Level 3a+

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Technically bruising is internal bleeding. And that would definitely be the case.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Older hammer fired guns are suppose to bet set at half cocked, they could be bumped or hit hard enough and then hammer could potentially jump a notch and hit the firing pin triggering the primer hard enough to discharge. Revolvers started to adopt a safety that blocks the firing pin around the 70's. In semi-automatics 1911's tried the series 70 that had a firing pin block connected to the trigger. Striker fired guns had two triggers in the same way as a series 70. First trigger drops the firing pin block, second trigger does what a trigger does. A striker fired gun is basically almost the same as a single action, you cock the gun when you pull the bolt back to prime it then it's firing pin may or may not be blocked till you hit the trigger. Essentiall you don't know until you arm the mechanism unless you're really familiar with the design. Typically a fire pin is held in place by a blocker on modern arms. Unless you feel confident in hitting your gun with a hammer or dropping it you're never going to know how competent the mechanism is. If you don't test your equipment.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So besides old boomer guns no one even carries or uses anymore for any serious use, this is a non issue?

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    somebody once told you they're a fucking retard

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Somebody once told me striker fired pistols can be carried
    >ready to shoot but hammer fired ones should be
    >either carried unchambered or with safety on. Are there actually
    >any reasons why carrying chambered striker fired gun is safer than hammer fired?

    WELL

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      all that glitters is gold, why does everyone freak out if I tell them to cut off their trigger guard or hit their gun with a hammer?

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    perhaps

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"You own guns to compensate for your little penis."
    It always come from shortdick leftoids manlets.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fite like a man
      >skinny fat lanklet or manlet

      Almost 100% of the time it's like this. Most of the guys I've met who do martial arts are also into guns to some extent.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >striker fired pistols can be carried ready to shoot but hammer fired ones should be either carried unchambered or with safety on
    hammer fired pistols most commonly have lighter pull with less travel and a crispy break. On top of that hammer fired guns dont usually have a trigger-shoe safety. Many of them are not drop safe without the mechanical safety on.

    there are exceptions but not many.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So for a noob like me (MD where shall issue just became standard) does PrepHole recommend striker fired like a P365 or maybe a 2011? What’s safest?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      safest is a decocker only Hammer fired DA/SA such as a beretta 92, a double action only such as a shrouded hammer revolver, or a modified hammer style like sig's Double Action Kellerman (DAK) or HK's Law Enformcement Modification (LEM).

      What feels good and is competitive? Maybe just DA/SA or single action only gun like a 1911 or a 2011.

      What is easiest? Striker fired

      Most dangerous would be anything with a manual safety

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      safest is a striker fired gun with a manual safety.
      2nd safest is a DA/SA with a decocker.
      3rd safest is a striker fired gun
      4th safest is a DA/SA with manual safety only
      5th safest are garbage sig pistols that have no trigger shoe safety.

      for most people I recommend #2 or #3, they set the nicest balance.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        safeties only add failure points to physically disable the weapon when needed, mentally disarm a person into thinking they can fuck around with their gun on "safe," and complicate training
        its an ironic name, as they inherently make the gun less safe to the user

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          all of what you posted is a training issue. safeties arent good or bad, it's all about application.
          >safeties only add failure points
          i've never heard of or witnessed a simple mechanical safety failing. ever. they are no more complex than any of the 3(4?) passive safeties that glocks have.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it hasn't happened to me therefore it doesnt happen ever
            at least we're in the right thread

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              honestly this is a dogshit argument. all you did was cast doubts about a very mechanically simple device, and then backed it up with "well it probably has happened at least once"

              a mechanical safety is about as likely to fail as the brakes in your car. yet you rely on it every day.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the brakes on a car are part of the intended use of the car
                your analogy would be correct if there was an additional thing i needed to do in order to get my car to function properly when i need it to.

                For example, every time i arrive home i lift the engine off my car because i'm scared it might drive itself while i sleep.
                The next morning i'm running late for work but realize a bit too late i forgot to put the engine back into my car which took several hours to do so my boss shows up with a pink slip saying im fucking fired.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the brakes on a car are part of the intended use of the car
                and safeties on guns are part of the intended use of guns designed to be carried and jostled around in unsafe environments.

                just because glock made the manual safety obsolete, doesnt mean a manual safety is bad and will get you killed. manual safeties actually have a few benefits, 1 or 2 of my pistols have them. They're great for pocket carry. with a glock you absolutely MUST have a holster or you're risking your life.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                boomers like you belong on a cross

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                im sorry i made you seethe, son.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                luv me m&p shield
                simple as.

                when some n*g or drunk starts banging on my door at 3am, I can shove it directly into my shorts without risking my femoral artery. and then go yell at him to fuck off. They're not for everyone, but I love mine.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not necessarily just a training issue. Manual safeties can easily be accidentally activated when the gun is produced quickly and the shooter will have a second or two before they realize and deactivate it again. It happens all the time.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              when someone erroneously pulls the trigger it's negligence and a training issue. but when someone erroneously engages a safety, it's immediately the safeties fault and safeties should be removed from all pistols.

              A properly designed safety is very difficult to accidentally engage. typically you engage them UP and the cuts/shape of the lever are designed to make that difficult.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >3rd safest is a striker fired gun
        Is this where a DA-only striker fired gun with no safety except drop safety fit?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          roughly, yeah. glocks and such are technically half-cocked, but they have all sorts of other bs that makes them safe. including a striker plunger block that prevents even catastrophic mechanical failure from setting off the gun.

          With a DA-only gun it really depends. the implication is the hammer is resting directly on the primer. This can cause problems, blunt impact can set it off. If it has a hammer block then yes it's roughly equivalent.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks for the response and no, no hammer, pure internal striker assembly, but only DA.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              does such a gun even exist? The only thing I can think of are maybe rocket launcher triggers or certain meme guns like the h&k p7 or SCCY CPX-2

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >does such a gun even exist? The only thing I can think of are maybe rocket launcher triggers or certain meme guns like the h&k p7 or SCCY CPX-2
                I won't deny it's a curious beast. I didn't even realize how curious at first.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DAO with manual safety is even safer than a striker fired gun with a manual safety.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ok, how about using safety to holster the firearm then disengage so it’s ready to go if needed?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i've thought about that too. reholstering in a stressed environment is the single most-likely time to get a ND. one of my big worries is I shoot someone in self defense, but then the cops show up and shoot me because I have a gun in my hand. there may come a time when you need to holster quickly or get shot

      Striker Control Devices (SCDs) and grip safeties are better for what you described though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think sheer raw practice is important there too, maybe with dummy rounds as part of the mix for realistic weight/ejection practice. It's a good point though, unholstering/holstering safety and speed are important and maybe aren't practiced as much as would be ideal. Doesn't help that so many ranges are allergic to it.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming your revolver or other hammer fired weapon either has a half cock or a solid hammer construction then its the safer of the options. I have nothing against striker fired systems except their ND rates.

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