How based would it be if we started giving police officers swords like they did in the Victorian period I know police tactics have changed a lot in two centuries but maybe we could update the tactics for it probably ?
But at least we would get lots of kino body cam footage though
no
>they did in the Victorian period
where’s his sword?
Here’s a video explaining the history of it https://youtu.be/madmSWUXPFM?si=EPSkDllJkkKZKQgW
Well it'd be more effective than tazers thats for sure. LOL
My God you're dumb.
>tazers
It's TASERs, moron.
We should give cops swords, but leave them completely dull/blunt swords. Then we should publicize how cops are carrying these super effective weapons. Then dumb Black folk and Mexicans will try to take the easily grabbable swords in melee and the cops can just let them as the draw and magdump the monkeys into the ground. The cops will be 100 justified to any jury or inquiry, because the monkey they shot definitely tried to take what everyone knows is a deadly weapon. Cops win, society wins. 10/10 plan.
That's precisely why I think they should switch to 380 and 32 compact and subcompact guns concealed on their body and leave the glock on their hip empty
that's fricking genius, excusable genocide of the type that will snatch someone's gun
i leave an unmaintained revolver with a barrel obstruction and an overloaded bullet in my unlocked car for the same reason.
Police did not have swords in the Victorian Era. Police never carried swords. The first professional police corps as we know them were founded in London, Boston, and New York in the 1830s and police were always lightly armed, in uniform and never expected to kill in the line of duty except in self defense or as a last resort, and certainly not with a sword.
Only military officers carried swords at that point, and only on campaign, no private citizens, police, or soldiers in the Victorian Era carried swords in public.
Then what it is the pictured I posted and the YouTube link then ?
If you watched your own damn video you would know that it was riot gear used in special occasions or for special dangerous details and specifically NOT carried by the everyday cops, because Bobby Peel wanted a civilian police force that was not armed against the citizenry.
>no private citizens, police, or soldiers in the Victorian Era carried swords in public.
>unsheathes cane sword
Surprise, wiener gay!
Halberds are better for town guards. The blunt end gives you a non-lethal option, while the sharp end is both a lethal weapon and a fire axe. You can even hold it horizontally and use its length as a crowd control cordon. Held vertically it can be seen above a crowd, allowing guards to rally on each other and civilians to find help quickly. The other historic town guard weapon is the crossbow, but of course that has been supplanted by guns.
If I had to outfit a security force for a new city today I would give them halberds made from carbon fibre shafts and steel heads, with a lead counterweight and electric stunning prod at the blunt end. They would also have Hardballers as a last resort weapon, secured to the belt with a retractable cord. Each station would also have designated marksmen who can be called for backup equipped with a SCAR-H instead of a halberd.
>town guards
these are not police. its even in the name
>steps inside building
L to the A to the M to the O
morons like this think they're min/maxing when they don't understand that you don't carry a fricking polearm everywhere
Also, the 'blunt end' doesn't hit nearly hard enough. It's a worse quarterstaff.
I'm conflicted. On one hand OP is a wiener sucking wiener sucker who lives solely to suck wiener like the wiener sucker he is. On the other hand, I actually kinda like that sword. It's a conundrum.
They almost never wore or used those.
Police truncheons -- which were very frequently worn and used -- are much cooler anyway.
We should bring back the truncheon.
Basically the modern retractable baton, tonfa’s and batons fell out of favor because they are bullshit to carry when you have to patrol in a car all day.
>What is the gendarmerie
>What is the marechaussée
fricking anglo island monkeys have no idea about police work
not based at all, what nieche would they fill? stop overcomplicating the work of average patrol donkeys, they can barely handle what they have right now
all they need is
>hands for subdueing
>baton for crowd control / subdueing
>handcuffs for controling
>taser as a force equalizer
>pepper spray as a force equalizer
>pistol as a direct lethal response
>rifle as a lethal response to high alert calls
and most importantly
>a mouth to talk and prevent the use of force
You don’t need 5000 tools to handle a moron that doesn’t want to listen
maybe US police would be less on edge if they weren’t forced to respond to calls alone and wouldn’t need to respond to violent morons every week
>gendarmerie
Military law enforcement squads
>marechaussée
Military police
Modern civilian policing was invented specifically to get away from this continental jackbooted thuggery shit
>US police
>forced to respond to calls alone
they aren't, its incredibly rare for a call to go out to a single responder and backup is always the first request
>and wouldn’t need to respond to violent morons
this is one horn of the dilemma. the US is a violent place filled with ignorant and antisocial people with guns. Our entire culture is rooted in antipathy to authority, total rejection of social cohesion, and owning firearms. It's pretty great actually, but it is the major cause of police killings
>every week
the other horn is that training is both stupidly lax and very badly corrupted by private instructors running grifting seminars where they teach young cops the 'warrior mindset' and it makes otherwise decent idiots into pants-pissing hysterical neurotics with guns and pre-trauma induced PTSD
>baton for crowd control / subdueing
>pepper spray as a force equalizer
Here is gear most cops stop carrying within their first year on the force. As useful as they are, everytime you use the baton you're getting sued and everytime you use the spray you have to wrestle the criminal into your squad car (possible chance of getting pepper spray on yourself) and after dropping off the prisoner you have to clean the squad car.
>the other horn is that training is both stupidly lax and very badly corrupted by private instructors running grifting seminars where they teach young cops the 'warrior mindset' and it makes otherwise decent idiots into pants-pissing hysterical neurotics with guns and pre-trauma induced PTSD
Yep.
Except retractable batons are dogshit.
> Flimsy.
> Backwards, with a center of balance on the wrong end.
> Can't be used for thrusting and hard prodding.
Just a terrible weapon.
>flimsy
jesus christ get some quality anon instead of buying cheap 40 bucks road warrior military store bullshit
look up Bonowi EKA
>cant be used for thrusting and hard prodding
Théo Luhaka would disagree
>gets you sued
sounds like you need to reform your force application laws
>getting pepper sprayed yourself
if you have wind, you spray your glove and rub it through the face, otherwise police pepperspray muzzles make a fine rope, like a squirt gun, they don’t spray a cloud
it’s mostly so the adversary runs out of breath while you wrestle, there’s a reason every police force in the first world concentrates the hand to hand training on pinning, even while cuffed
>Bonowi EKA
It's still shit that's balanced backwards, which is why nobody likes them.
>Théo Luhaka would disagree
You are a degenerate.
>balanced backwards
Okay, so you never held one or used one, got it
If you really believe that batons and clubs should have a center of balance somewhere around or just in front of their hilt, you have absolutely no experience with blunt weapons of any sort.
You have never held an EKA
You have no experience with sticks
You have no formal training with batons
You never used a tonfa against a person
Stop talking out of your ass because you swing a mace at a medieval larp convention
> Doggedly defending the cope-stick
I've got more training with sticks and batons than you do, that's for sure.
You are correct, though. All medieval impact weapons were very front-heavy, which facilitates their use. The EKA, like other extendable batons, is bottom-heavy.
The EKA, when extracted, is too heavy, if you’d have one or held one or used one you’d know that.
You’d also know that it can indeed be used for thrusting because it doesn’t retract unless you push the button in the grip.
Stop pretending to be more than you are, you glow.
> The EKA, when extracted, is too heavy
Coping hard, I see.
Look at picrel.
First of all, they're not that heavy. The heaviest is a little over a pound and a half. That's not unusual for a truncheon or fighting club. (The Irish would load theirs with lead, so that they were often heavier than 2 pounds at a 26"+ length.)
Second, note the shape and the weight difference between the longest (26") and the shortest (16"). There's literally no way they're not absurdly bottom-heavy. If they were evenly balanced, the 16" would weigh substantially less, or the 26" would weigh more.
Expandable batons are garbage and are outperformed by your average Victorian police cudgel. Keep coping, because you'll never be able to carry one, and your superiors force you to wear a shit-tier "weapon".
Forgot pic.
>if you have wind, you spray your glove and rub it through the face, otherwise police pepperspray muzzles make a fine rope, like a squirt gun, they don’t spray a cloud
>it’s mostly so the adversary runs out of breath while you wrestle, there’s a reason every police force in the first world concentrates the hand to hand training on pinning, even while cuffed.
You didn't even read my comment. I'm not talking about the pepper spray "in the air", I'm talking about the pepper spray on the criminal's skin and clothes. When you pin him or wrestle with him there is a high chance of getting that shit on you (yes, even with the rope kind).
You just squirt on the forehead, do you want to kiss him?
The few times I got sprayed was because someone was excessively using it, second hand contamination from clothes etc mostly results in itchy skin, a sore throat and a small cough, nothing more
Besides don’t you guys have dedicated transport vehicles with plastic backseats you can hose down?
Who cares? They already have batons. A bludgeon is a bludgeon.
Legendary amounts of morale damage against gangsters.
yea
lets give cops swords
we should make laws that the rest of the goyim cant walk around with theirs
Swedes equipped police with swords up until the 1960s or something.
I believe the Police should deploy cataphracts for foot chases, Jamal Tyrese Tyrone would shit himself when he saw this charging him with a lance
That armor might be accurate, but the Cataphract and horse would be covered in colorful decorations and displays of wealth and Heraldry.