>We don't want a bullpup because the balance point is bad and more fatiguing

>We don't want a bullpup because the balance point is bad and more fatiguing
>*hangs 5 pounds of bullshit off the barrel*
Why are militaries like this?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because frick ya mudda

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Thats why nobody does it. Cant remember the last time I saw an M320 mounted to something.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's the argument against a bullpup when you can assume that at the minimum, it's going to have a VCOG, PEQ16, VFG, bipod, and suppressor attached? You just really need to reduce the effective range of your weapon by 80 yards and you couldn't figure out another way to do it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >we need a launcher that opens to the side so we can shove longer rounds in it
      >proceeds to never procure or even finish developing said rounds
      >we need a launcher that is more ergonomic and requires less attachment points
      >so we can just start using them without any mounting to begin with

      The M302 is moronic in a lot of ways

      What advantage does it give you? more barrel stops mattering after 16 inches and you get way better ergonomics, chamber and gas isn't in your face, reload is easier, more rail space where it matters, can brace it against things and support it better, trigger not shit, etc.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It lets your suppressed rifle still be as short as an unsuppressed m4, or a 22" barrel still gives about 150 fps over a 16" barrel. Obviously a few inches of length matters since everyone swapped from the M16 to the M4 forever ago, and the operators who have been using suppressors this entire time have been cutting their M4s down to 10" or less. It's just a matter of time until the army and marines start realizing that supressors are good but they still want a shorter rifle for the same reason they cut the M16 down in the first place, and then they'll be using 10" ARs as well. Meanwhile a bullpup would have prevented the problem entirely.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If you run a can on ANY bullpup you're gonna have air blown directly into your face.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sure, if you just screw a suppressor onto whatever random bullpup. One of the requirements of the NGSW was that they must not blow gas back out the ejection port, so it's certainly possible to design a bullpup that handles a suppressor well.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            well no because everyone is running flow through on piston guns with suppressor settings.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        to never procure or even finish developing said rounds
        Hey bro, just cause it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it's not gonna.
        I bet they're working on some 40mm-launched loitering munition right now or something else with a lot of electronics packed into it to make it insanely expensive per round.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just anecdotes I received from others, it's run standalone very often.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the balance point is bad
    Having the CoG closer to the shooter is probably the biggest advantage of a bullpup. Who thinks it's a bad thing?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To play Devil's advocate, the M203 was way less moronic as an under barrel launcher and the M320 is mostly used as a standalone weapon anyway.

      People grasping at straws to hate on bullpups,
      I can't think of any particular (purpose built) bullpup that is overly rear heavy, and a lot of modern ones actually have a center balance.
      Also not a very common criticism to begin with.

      If you run a can on ANY bullpup you're gonna have air blown directly into your face.

      RDB has adjustable gas and downward ejection

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To play Devil's advocate, the M203 was way less moronic as an under barrel launcher and the M320 is mostly used as a standalone weapon anyway.

      People grasping at straws to hate on bullpups,
      I can't think of any particular (purpose built) bullpup that is overly rear heavy, and a lot of modern ones actually have a center balance.
      Also not a very common criticism to begin with.
      [...]
      RDB has adjustable gas and downward ejection

      It's fatiguing to carry a rifle for extended periods of time when the entire weight of the weapon is supported by one hand. With a traditional layout, the balance point is in between the two hands so they share the load. With a bullpup, the weight is directly over (or very close to) the shooting hand, so it bears an inordinate amount of the load.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's also pressed into the shoulder, which supports a lot of weight with your entire body.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You have your rifle shouldered the entire time that you're carrying it?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No, it's on a sling, doofus.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I concealed carry my rifle, personally

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                deep concealment, if you catch my drift
                ps I'm trans

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm working on a no-shit CC rifle and it will be a bullpup on a slig.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Both classic rifles and bullpups are equally fine. People need to stop skubbing it up, but I know they won't.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >militaries
    You mean the US military.
    Everywhere else they just pick the rifle they want, whether it's a pup or not.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You know you can just detach the 320 and use it by itself right?

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